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15 Oct 2019 09:24:29
{Ed001 has posted a new podcast entitled, See You Next Tuesday Klopp Special

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15 Oct 2019 12:52:47
Cant wait to listen to this one. just got 20 mins of see you next tuesday btw ed666 I'm not adrian sorry and don't let ed1 stop you singing mate if it makes you happy belt out them songs and thank you for the rendition of ynwa brilliant.

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15 Oct 2019 19:33:21
Thanks for this podcast Eds. Brilliant as always. Don't you think there is anyway Klopp can stay beyond 7 years. Can't even imagine him gone.

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{Ed001's Note - thanks mate. I hope he will stay but I can't see it happening. Maybe by then it will be the right time for everyone.}

15 Oct 2019 19:50:53
Really enjoyed that listen chaps.
It does make you appreciate what we have right now with klopp and this team.
I'm just hoping by some miracle he will want to stay beyond this current contract. Or hopefully we have a few things in place so the transition isn't to rough and we plan for the future.

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15 Oct 2019 19:59:46
Ed01, you beauty. I'm going to go check it out right now. BOOM!

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{Ed001's Note - you might take that back once you have heard it!}

15 Oct 2019 21:44:06
Keeps me going when I'm out and about selling tyres, however perhaps it should come with one of those "do not operate heavy machinery" warnings!

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15 Oct 2019 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 15th October 2019

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14 Oct 2019 16:40:20
Evening Ed001.

Klopp hinting that Alisson will be fit and available to start against those lot on Sunday.

Would you stick with Adrian, he's done pretty well? It's a massive game with Alisson no featuring all season.

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{Ed001's Note - Adrian has done well but Alisson is the best there is, so you have to put him back in.}

14 Oct 2019 17:22:50
Good to hear Ed001, although Adrian has done well. Do you no if Matip and Salah should be ok to play?

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{Ed001's Note - I believe both should be ok.}

14 Oct 2019 20:47:21
Cheers mate great news. Although I hate playing Utd at OT they always up there game against us and I have a horrid feeling in the pit of my stomach about the result.

Mr negative. I no, I hear ya.

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{Ed001's Note - the worse they are, the better they tend to do against us. So I am worried too as they are the worst I can ever remember right now!}

14 Oct 2019 22:00:53
Think we have only won 2 of our last 16 visits to OT. Just shows how hard we find going there. I am really looking forward to it and hope our big players remember to turn up this year.

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14 Oct 2019 22:57:20
I understand ED001, I've seen my fair share of bad results there, even when our performance has been decent. This feels different though. We've won games this season not playing particularly well and probably haven't put in a full 90 minutes yet. They are in a fair state. It's not just that their top players aren't playing well, it's that they have so few top players. Add to that OGS' performances and I think we'll stroll it tbh.

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15 Oct 2019 01:29:24
We did spank them when they were down and out under Moyes. Let’s have faith in the boys and hope they turn up big time and play with intensity and the quality will show. Be complacent and we’ll be in for a shock.

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15 Oct 2019 06:15:33
We'll smash them, mark my words, they have nothing on us. I aren't worried about the game one bit.

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15 Oct 2019 08:44:18
Our mindset is so different this year. In previous years we were happy with a point, this year its win, win, win, and we don't care how. Mane to play a blinder andallison to breed confidence into our back four.

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15 Oct 2019 09:35:36
Its United's cup final. They will be up for it big time.

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15 Oct 2019 09:40:14
Am sure you said the same last year Salah as did most posters. The only thing I am confident about is that we will manage a shot, which is more than we managed there last season. I am looking to see which of our players go there and stamp their better quality on the game. Who really wants it? last year none of our players wanted it as much as the Man U players, we were out fought.

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15 Oct 2019 10:08:40
Our match at OT was quite amazing last season, you had Pogba and Sanchez sprinting - sprinting, not ambling - around like their lives depended on it.
Which just goes to show that it’s not a gimme by any means.

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15 Oct 2019 10:35:41
Agreed Juicer. It is Man U's champions league final. We have to start well from the first minute, match them for effort and stamp our superior quality on the game. We didn't do any of those things last year.

I would make them watch last years match because some of it was actually embarassing. We got out run and out fought by the worst Man U midfield in their history.

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15 Oct 2019 11:32:56
We said the same about Napoli away.

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15 Oct 2019 12:47:16
I don't think you can compare current united team with Napoli . The Italians are better with good manager .
The word mindset mentioned a bit and I think its totally true. This season we have a winning mentality cross the whole team and squad, and I think it will carry on ; while on the other hand , they lacking in confidence and they don't have leaders on or off the pitch to left them up . If we start as we usually do with speed and determination, I really think they'll crumble . I am not saying will score loads, maybe . but the potential is there.

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15 Oct 2019 16:51:08
We have traditionally struggled against mid table teams so it could be tough.

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15 Oct 2019 17:29:19
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I have not seen LFC be, and play with, the confidence we currently have. I certainly have not seen it in the Premier League era. Have we been in the Champions League final and in the top two for two consecutive years before?

I don't think it will be a blowout, but we will win. We like to do things the difficult way, at times. 😉.

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15 Oct 2019 20:01:32
It's going to be a tough game lads, regardless of how well we are doing. Remember, some whierd stuff happens at OT.

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14 Oct 2019 14:36:32
Afternoon all
Quick question for everyone including eds1 and eds25 just for a different perspective.
Would any player from Man U get into our side at the min?
I would have to say no. What do you think.

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{Ed001's Note - no, not that I can think of.}

14 Oct 2019 14:59:07
Are you talking about our starting 11 or squad? As for the 11, definitely no, squad the only I may consider is Bissaka.

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14 Oct 2019 15:00:01
Fred is better than Fabinho.

That's what all my United supporting friends told me when he signed. Fred was in the Brazil squad ahead of Fabinho you know? He must be better.

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14 Oct 2019 15:26:55
Hahaha! I’m better than Fred, and I’m garbage.

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14 Oct 2019 15:36:16
They must be talking about the Fred (CF) who played in the World Cup, two cups ago. Both that Fred and this one are flops.

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14 Oct 2019 18:17:21
Until recently, I totally forgot that Fred was still playing football period, not just playing for utd. Now regarding who would make our squad (none would make our starting lineup, really), I would take Rashford or Wan-Bissaka cos both can still improve with the right coaching, environment and guidance cos both are clearly talented. The rest? Keep it moving.

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14 Oct 2019 19:32:44
Fred is Man UTD's modern day version of Anderson, but without the talent and free McDonald's vouchers.

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14 Oct 2019 19:59:59
You'd be gutted if you was Brazilian and called Fred. Could of been named Ronaldinho, Fabinho or Carlos. But oh no, Fred 😂.

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{Ed047's Note - I thought the worst Brazilian I’d ever seen was the one Stevie Wonder did on his misses but Fred‘s topped that and some.

And for me not one of them would get even close to your first 11 let alone the squad.

14 Oct 2019 22:59:10
Ed047, that deserves a response but I just don't have one.

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{Ed047's Note - Thanks Burkey 😂

14 Oct 2019 23:51:20
Don’t see the hype about Rashford at all RW. He’s only talked about because he’s English and plays for Utd. He’s bang average if you ask me we’ve just got rid of someone on the same level in Ojo.

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15 Oct 2019 03:14:15
Beckers Pecker - great name, by the way.
Rashford is absolutely overrated, but he can still be an extremely dangerous player when not monitored closely. His sheer pace and unpredictability, particularly when striking, means he cannot be ignored, no matter how bad Man Utd otherwise are.

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15 Oct 2019 09:06:03
Danny mills was on sky sports earlier and was asked to pick his best 11 from both squads for Sunday's match and he picked our starting 11. No one from utd even got a mention not even pogba or De gea show how far we have come as a club instead of how far they have fallen.

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15 Oct 2019 13:45:32
Fred's that bad, Mourinho even had to ask him which was his stronger foot and on which side he'd prefer to play on.
Right Said Fred.

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15 Oct 2019 17:36:20
Sitting here wondering how long it takes before the performances on the field start reflecting on the accounts and the balance sheet. Because they still seem to be very popular and the cash register is pinging to record profits still. And there lies the danger. This allows them to walk around with an open chequebook as they have in recent years, and perhaps become a serious challenger once again.

I think OGS deserves a lifelong contract. Loyal servant to the club since so long, and all that. 😂.

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15 Oct 2019 18:57:47
In our squad i would have de gea (decent bench warmer) wan bissaka, and probably James. In the team, none.

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15 Oct 2019 20:06:07
Beckers, I see your point cos well right now, Rashford ain't doing jack. I just think like Wan-Bissaka, he is talented enough to be very good IF he has the right coach and environment cos his pace and movement is there. For ex. when Mane came to us, all he pretty much had was pace. But he improved a lot cos he too wanted to be great and now, he is world class, IMO. Rashford could be that IF he is determined to be great. I don't see that in him at a more than dreadful Utd side hence why I say, he should leave.

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14 Oct 2019 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Formula 1: Japan Talking Points

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14 Oct 2019 07:47:08
I felt Albon should of had a penalty for his move on Norris.

Questionable Merc call to put Lewis a second time also, think he would of easily got to the end. Where they avoiding a team call scenario? Asking Lewis to move over for Bottas which he clearly would not of done?

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14 Oct 2019 11:47:46
I thought the stewards had an absolute shockers this weekend.
The start of the season there was no mention of using black and white flags more. Then Ferrari knock Lewis off the a few weeks back. We are told we are going to see the flag used more.
The we see multiple times cars getting knocked off and no flags.
Then no black flag for Leclerc. What are they thinking.

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13 Oct 2019 19:14:20
Ed001 a question for you if a may?

Andy Robertson. Before we signed him, he wasn’t exactly tipped for greatness, was playing Scottish third division in the not too distant past. Now he is one of the best full backs in the world. So my question is, what’s caused the dramatic improvement for him, Was it klopp and Liverpool? Appreciate the way we play suits him (probably most attacking full backs actually) to a T, so that probably a factor either way. But would his attitude and quality be noticed if he didn’t come then, or do you think he would be still flirting around the championship?

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{Ed001's Note - part of it was that Celtic dumped him for being too small, so he had to prove people wrong. As it never came easy, he had drive and determination and a desire to improve himself. Then there is the coaches who have been able to help him improve. I think he would always have ended up in the Prem, but he would not have reached the level he did by going elsewhere.}

13 Oct 2019 21:25:17
Certain players will blossom in the right environment and Robertson at Liverpool under klopp is the perfect match. A full back like him can only stand out to a certain level in a team like Hull. Regularly defending out of possession and much less freedom to attack and with sub standard forwards to feed he could only do so much. Credit to our recruitment that we saw what he could offer in a team like us. If mourinho had signed him for his boring United team we would not see the same player.

I also wonder what would have become of Henderson if he had left us for Fulham after his first season. Would his great attitude and desire have seen him get back to a top club and lift a European cup as captain. Or could he easily have struggled to fit in a weaker sides system and potentially have a championship level career. Jonjo shelvey looked the more complete midfielder at that age but was never a fit for Liverpool and his career hasn't really kicked on. If roy hodgson had signed Robertson and klopp signed konchesky I wonder what the outcome would have been😂.

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{Ed025's Note - klopp is the reason andy looks so good har, he makes players play to the top of their game mate, lets be honest anyone who can make hendo look like a decent player is a miracle worker.. :)

13 Oct 2019 21:55:32
Many players have been rejected due to being undersized regardless of their talent. Two players come to mind here: Griezmann and Dries Mertens. Griezmann was rejected at every academy in France due to his small size. He never gave up on his dream of being a professional footballer so he tried his luck in Spain where as we all know, size does not matter and the rest is history.

Dries Mertens was the same. He had to go to Holland to make his name and as we know today, he is a beast of a player, capable of playing anywhere upfront and on the verge of breaking Napoli's all time goalscoring total held by, you guessed it, "El Diez" Diego Maradona. For me, size should never matter in football or any sport cos it is a form of prejudice.

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13 Oct 2019 23:05:07
Its not prejudice any more than basketball is prejudiced. Its a physical game and there's more chance of being knocked off the ball if you are smaller and less chance of compering for headers. there's plenty of exceptional smaller players who use their low centre of gravity to their advantage but the majority of clubs seem to prefer a bit of height and power as part of a players skill set.

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14 Oct 2019 00:44:44
I remember Robertson at Dundee United who were playing in the SPL then . He did stick out especially as he'd only be a teenager at the time so the natural ability was there . Klopp has definitely coached him to the player we see today but Robertson himself has to be given credit for this, drive, attitude and ambition belong to him . He also seems very close to Milner who is the ultimate role model for any professional.

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14 Oct 2019 09:49:15
Lol leave Hendo alone Ed025 for at least a month mate. I challenge you not to mention him lol.

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{Ed025's Note - i have actually not mentioned hendo for a while virgil, i know how much you all like him so i respect all your views, but when he is donning the england shirt then he is fair game as are any players who under perform, and in particular keane and pickford who should not be anywhere near the national side imo mate..

14 Oct 2019 11:13:04
Who would you start over Keane and Pickford for England Ed0025? Personally I'd go Henderson or Heaton at GK with Stones and Maguire CB. When Stones is out then I'd happily put on my rent tinted specs and say Joe Gomez even though he hasn't been playing much because the rest are just not good enough.

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{Ed025's Note - to be honest taurus i dont think maguire and keane works because neither of them are quick enough, stones and gomez are not playing regularly so they are not really in the frame at the moment so tyrone mings deserves a shot i think, he has really surprised me how good he has been for villa this season, so maybe him and maguire could be the best of a bad bunch mate, pickford is an accident waiting to happen and i have seen vampires who are less scared of crosses than him, heaton is not a bad shout but to be fair i dont think there are many good english goalies about..

14 Oct 2019 14:11:34
Just a big shame Butland never reached his potential. for me if no injuries he wouldhave been Englands No1 for a decade.

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14 Oct 2019 12:52:31
Mings should get a try I think. Players should be picked on form not by merit in my opinion.

Yeah there are no stand out goalkeepers in English football right now.

Are there any Eds who remind you of a vampire Ed0025?

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{Ed025's Note - most of them are very pale and dont eat a lot of garlic taurus, and ED002 can be very biting with his answers at times but thats no reflection on the good work that they do mate.. :)

14 Oct 2019 18:25:59
Like A Virgil, I am not sure that basketball is the best analogy. Since the basket is over 8 ft tall, you need some kind of height to be able to play the game even in the position. For example, I am 6 foot 2/ 3' (played a bit in high school) and I am just about tall enuff to play the smallest position in basketball which is the Point Guard position. Steph Curry (a Point Guard) looks small amongst giants but trust me, he is not a small guy. A Point Guard is about 6ft 3'/ 4', which is a pretty tall for a regular guy.

Either way, I fully agree with you that in football at least, height should not be a barrier esp. in positions like FB, no. 10 or out wide where we know players of smallish stature can get it done.

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13 Oct 2019 19:01:01
Any of the Eds / Reds seen the BT Sport film on Man Utd's 1974 relegation?
I watched it last night, an enjoyable (for a Liverpool fan especially! ) and interesting piece on how not to manage a football club.
It's incredible, in hindsight, how badly Utd handled their demise and the extent to which George Best, great player though he was, was indulged.
The over-riding message though was the damage that a group of non-cooperative senior players can do to a manager.
All the more strange, therefore, that Paul Pogba continues to mess them about.
He surely needs to be moved on and the money re-invested.

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13 Oct 2019 19:40:27
Dont think anyone would buy Pogba for more than 50 million. I genuinly fail to see hype. Wijnaldum is 3 times the player if I'm being gentle with Pogba :)

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13 Oct 2019 20:58:45
BXL I fail to see how MU can ever recoup their outlay on him also, talented yes but character wise one to dodge, stats built up with pens.

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13 Oct 2019 22:01:05
As someone who watched Pogba play at Juve, he thrived in a system where he was NEVER the main man as the main men where Vidal, Marchisio and Pirlo. Pogba was just part of a system. These guys made the system tick over. Hence, Pogba could look good in a system that suited him. This was under Antonio Conte.

Now when Max Allegri took over and brought over his 4-4-2 diamond, he prolly knew that Pogba would be a liability tactically and esp. defensively (he has NO defensive bone in his body) so what did he do? He played Pogba on the left of a midfield diamond where he couldn't hurt them whenever defensively. Hence like Spus's Erik Lamela, till this day I could NOT tell you what Pogba is actually good at. Maybe some or the Ed's can help me.

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13 Oct 2019 23:07:09
May be he's only good at weird hairstyles? And I guess his agent does a great job influencing people on social media that Pogba is a talented player? LOL.

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14 Oct 2019 20:02:09
I thought he was rubbish at Juve personally.

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{Ed047's Note - he is so overrated it’s untrue and I think he got hyped up so much by United fans when they wanted to buy him back that led to half the garbage said about him.

Got carried through the World Cup by his so much better team mates.

13 Oct 2019 10:40:33
Hi Ed's, first time poster after many years of being addicted to this brilliant website!
I've tried searching but if possible could you please give a brief history of how the current transfer windows came about, and also if you think it could ever change again?
Obviously there is a premier league meeting around the corner relating to the timing of the current summer window, but would having something like one window (for all European countries) that maybe runs after the season ends until say 31st January be more beneficial for both clubs and players?

Thanks
RR79.

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{Ed002's Note - In 2017 the Premier League proposed the change in response to many coaches having complained that they were unhappy with the then transfer window and wanted the clubs to complete purchases by the time the season starts. As the window has to be open for 90 days, the start had to therefore move back as well. Manchester City, Manchester United, Swansea, Watford and Crystal Palace voted against the proposal although the coaches of the first three of those sides were in support. Burnley abstained from voting. There was a naive view that all European sides would follow suit but they laughed it off when proposed. The European sides have no intention of changing.}

13 Oct 2019 12:18:25
Is it not a lot of noise over nothing? on the homefront coaches now know what their squad'll be going into the season while the wealth of the English clubs means that even if theirs talk of a player leaving to a foreign side after the domestic window closes (like Eriksen and Pogba to Madrid this summer) the clubs in England don't need the money and can just say to the player that he's staying. i think the players know that aswell at this stage.

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{Ed025's Note - you are very naive if you think clubs dont need the money jadon, even the big hitters cant afford to let players stew mate..

13 Oct 2019 12:51:26
Im more saying Ed that once the Premier League starts that's it. that's their squad for the season and if a foreign club really wanted one of their players they should have sorted it out before the closing date of our window.

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{Ed025's Note - oh ok mate..

13 Oct 2019 13:30:33
I think the big problem for the premier is we start are league to soon yet finish before most other countries leagues. I think the size of the championship and league 1-2 means they have to start then to get 46 games in and the carabao cup starts so early. End of the season Liverpool and spurs had about a 3 week wait for the champions league final yet after a World Cup the players where back in no time. So I do think starting all major leagues the same weekend would be a lot better to help this problem.

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14 Oct 2019 00:31:08
Thanks Ed.
Apologies but I should have added, how and why did the two transfer windows ever begin?

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{Ed002's Note - Originally they were proposed around 1990 and a number of European countries started using them. About 2000 FIFA were approached by the European Union to make the windows compulsory and it was agreed and began the following year. The rationale behind the original plan was to avoid disruption to clubs throughout the season with players coming and going.}


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