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07 Jun 2017 16:53:52
Rumours now circulating that we have moved on from Van Dijk and have made an offer for Stefan De Vrij.

No idea how trustworthy these are.

Any ideas anyone? Eds?

RedDawn

{Ed002's Note - I can't help, sorry. He would however be a good buy.}


1.) 07 Jun 2017 17:17:48
I'd tend to agree on that Ed002. Given that he is in the last year of his contract the fee is likely to also be a bit more reasonable.

A little concerned by the fact that he primarily plays on the right of the CBs though. We saw how much Lovren struggled when he was moved from LCB to RCB.


2.) 07 Jun 2017 17:25:11
Its being reported on Football Italia via Sky that we have had a €20m bid turned down, with Lazio apparently holding out for closer to €35m.

He would be just over half the cost of VVD.

I know nothing about him other than it was reported 2 years ago that he was keen on a move to Liverpool when he left Feyenord, and was ultimately bought by Lazio.

Ed002, would you be able to elaborate on why you think he would be a good option?

Also, any views from peeps who watch the Italian league?

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure where you get the "just over half" rom but De Vrij's contract is running down and he is a very good player who is attracting interest from a number of high-profile sides.}


3.) 07 Jun 2017 18:00:38
Thanks Ed002, I should steer clear of finances!

I was talking purely in terms of reported transfer fees, with Lazio holding for c£30m (€35m according to the Football Italia report) and VVD costing c£60m + or -. I think the figures reported by the journalist who broke the story (can't remember his name) are just over £50m including add ons, although that could indeed go up significantly if tapping up is an issue, as you said in reply to another post.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not struck any financial deal with Southampton whatsoever.}


4.) 07 Jun 2017 18:21:30
Is De Vrij not a bit of a crock?

{Ed002's Note - Yes.}


 

 

10 Apr 2017 10:14:34
My Real Madrid supporting cow orker has sworn blind that Bale is going back to the Premier League this summer.

He says that United is the most likely destination but there is also interest from Chelsea and Liverpool.

I've told him that he needs a long lie down.

Back me up here Eds, there's no way Bale is going to end up at Liverpool, right?

RedDawn

{Ed002's Note - You can tell your cow orker that Bale will not be moving to Liverpool this summer.}


1.) 10 Apr 2017 10:42:06
Thank you Ed002. Quality player but just can't see why he would be attracted to Liverpool and how we could possibly afford him.

Have a great day.

Hope you're enjoying the sunshine if you're UK based at the mo.

{Ed002's Note - It is a pleasant day here thank you.}


2.) 10 Apr 2017 11:15:37
As usual so called liverpool fans say every player is too big for lfc jokers coutinho firming better than any one in thebpremier
If l
Koop wants a player we will get him
1st signing Theo alaves/ attleti.

{Ed001's Note - what has it got to do with being too big? There are a number of reasons why, nothing to do with size, except size of fee and salary.}


3.) 10 Apr 2017 11:49:29
What a strange reply.

I meant it in the way that he is a Cardiff born guy who spent the whole of his youth career on the South Coast and then settled in London, a major capital city. He then moved to Madrid, a major capital city, and lived in the sun being paid £350k a week to do so playing with some of the best players in the world getting to the latter stages of the Champions League every year.

Why on earth would he want to move to the North West of England to a team that has only challenged for their domestic title once in the last 15 years, unless it's going to be for a lot more money. which we can't afford. Only United could even get close to affording what he would want.

It's not about "so called Liverpool fans" saying a player is too big, it's about understanding that this isn't Football Manager where you can just sign whoever you want.


4.) 10 Apr 2017 12:16:33
No player is bigger than the club. 👍🏼.


5.) 10 Apr 2017 13:44:27
Well said Mikey but I'm still working out what someone who orks cows actually does? I'm hoping it's not missing a p in there somewhere.


6.) 10 Apr 2017 13:52:17
How do you ork a cow?

{Ed001's Note - it is obviously a D&D reference....}


7.) 10 Apr 2017 15:32:21
I don't know any cow orkers who support Real Madrid.
I think it's a load of bull.


8.) 10 Apr 2017 23:13:15
You have it all wrong . It's the orkers cow that supports Real Madrid.


 

 

01 Feb 2017 12:49:39
Hi all,

I was just wondering if anyone is aware what the plan with Flanagan is?

He was sent on loan, apparently with some sort of weird clause about having to play a certain percentage of games, but hasn't started a game since October.

Does he have a future at Liverpool or is he one more to be added to the scrap heap?

Cheers all

RedDawn

1.) 01 Feb 2017 16:31:19
Doesn't have a future, he's struggled to get any real game time this season, championship is his level


2.) 01 Feb 2017 22:04:26
Championship my arse . he is quality just had injuries/ issues which have massively hindered his progress. out of site out of mind. love to see him back in a red shirt. cracking little player.


3.) 01 Feb 2017 23:51:10
He's just not quality at all, with Klopp's system you need full backs who are suited to playing like wingers in possession and bombing forward at any given moment. He's simply not good enough or suited to a team who has aspirations to be challenging for trophies. If he wasn't a local lad people the majority of people would judge him completely differently.


4.) 02 Feb 2017 01:49:54
It baffles me how many people still rate him, he had a fairly good season in 13/ 14 but his all round game just isn't up to standard, love the guys passion and commitment but we need to take off the red specs. I think he has made 5 appearances at Burnley, just not good enough for a club who have ambitions of being CL regulars.


5.) 02 Feb 2017 03:39:25
Unfortunately injuries have hampered his career but I wouldn't rule out if he comes back into form he could become very useful to a PL club, but suspect unlikely at liverpool as he's primarily defensively minded.

{Ed025's Note - which is just what you need zimbo..


6.) 02 Feb 2017 10:31:05
Still technically a Liverpool player so he gets my support but I do believe he'll be off probably in the summer. Good player but not for us. Championship level? No, would fit right in with a team like stoke.


7.) 02 Feb 2017 11:17:54
He was brilliant 13/ 14 season and has struggled with injuries since, he hasn't been seen for past couple years so how can anyone really judge him. where he's from has nothing to do with it. that's a massive chip on some people's shoulders.


8.) 02 Feb 2017 12:40:12
Quality. Ignore loans. Unless there is a certain clause to buy him you donr build your tem around someone who isn't going to be here next yearm

A loan is usually just to bulk uo the numbers ans cover your first team.


9.) 02 Feb 2017 06:18:31
Fair play but I don't think that's what Klopp has in mind is what I meant.

{Ed025's Note - liverpools biggest problem is the defence zimbo and flanno cant be much worse than whats there at the moment mate..


10.) 03 Feb 2017 13:03:01
Agree with 25 Flanno for me is an improvement on all 3 current fullbacks that we have. It wasn't a 1 off season really where he looked good, even when called into action at 17 he kept Theo Walcott and his pace in his pocket all game, and played well when given opportunities in other games at 17/ 18.
Injuries have hampered him, so he hasn't been able to pla, He's looked good when I;ve watched his appearances at Burnley too, sadly he's only there to fill out their squad and give it depth. He certainly looks better than Lowton when gien chaces.


11.) 03 Feb 2017 13:36:39
Flanno might not be the greatest footballer but what he brings to the table is passion and desire which you won't see from him unless he is wearing a red shirt! He is a true Liverpool fan that will put it on the line for the club and its in the games against the lesser teams that he could be invaluable for us.

Just think back to the game we beat Arsenal 6-1 he had us up and at em from the first minute and was arguably man of the match against one of the best footballing sides in the league. talent only takes you so far on matchday the rest comes down to heart and Flanno has plenty of that. something we havelacked and has cost us games this season. Its a shame that so called fans will slate off one of the only true Liverpool fans at the club.


12.) 03 Feb 2017 13:08:26
Can you see Flanno been given a chance at Liverpool?


13.) 03 Feb 2017 22:44:46
Flanno is too slow both physically and mentally. Gets done by pace snd tricks every time and offers little going forward.


14.) 03 Feb 2017 22:54:10
Slimz great post.


 

 

31 Mar 2016 12:12:18
Hi Eds,

Rumours circulating the tabloids about Liverpool tabling an offer for Higuain.

I am pretty sure you will say that no official offer has been made, but are we interested in him?

I can only assume that pursuing a striker, especially one that expensive, means that arrangements have been made for Benteke already.

Or is it all just balderdash?

Cheers in advance.

RedDawn

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not sold Benteke and has not made any offer for or shown any interest in Higuain.}


 

 

02 Feb 2015 19:44:19
Evening Eds,

Can you see Liverpool looking to bring anyone in should Lambert leave? Getting a bit close to the wire for me.

I would be tempted to give Ibe a shot up front if we need someone instead of panic buying someone now (Gignac??)

Good luck to Lambert if he does leave, amazing for him to play for the club he loves, shame he didn't get to score a blinder at the Kop end!

Cheers in advance Eds

RedDawn

{Ed002's Note - I think their is sufficient cover - Rodgers may not agree - I dealt with Gignac earlier.}


 

 

 

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18 Jul 2017 13:16:08
Must say I am loving the amount of press coverage Everton are getting at the moment. Everyone saying they can challenge for the top 4, Phil Neville saying they can "do a Spurs".

All of it will just be ramping up the pressure on them.

Don't get me wrong, they've made some good signings (and one awful one) but I don't see them as world beaters yet.

RedDawn

1.) 18 Jul 2017 13:40:38
they could do a spurs re, the season they had after they sold bale, and we had when we sold suarez, none of there signings have me quaking in my boots, we shall see in 9 months time, also the pressure is on koeman now to deliver, after all he has been backed in the transfer market, now he has to show the owner what he is made off.


2.) 18 Jul 2017 13:40:52
How many of their signing would make a top 4 team? None. They've lost the guy who scored half their goals. I can see them finishing lower than last year.


3.) 18 Jul 2017 14:36:27
Everyone just gets over excited when a team goes out and buys loads of players. In reality it very rarely pays dividends. The better teams tend to stick with a nucleus and add a few quality additions. That's what Spurs have done over the past few seasons, Utd did it for years. Everton have bought players that are no better or in some cases worse than the players they already have and they've lost their best player. They could just as easily do a Newcastle than a Spurs in my opinion.


4.) 18 Jul 2017 14:48:30
ANnd who said they are done🤔.


5.) 18 Jul 2017 15:15:35
Koeman is a good manager. I hate to say it but I do think he will make the blue noses into a top four challenging team.

Baz.


6.) 18 Jul 2017 16:23:35
They probably will do a Spurs and by that I refer to when Spurs bought a bunch of highly rated players like Lamela and then they all turned out to be flops. That's the only Spurs they'll do.


7.) 18 Jul 2017 13:58:03
No offense to Ed025 or Everton, but imo Everton has just gone and repeated the mistakes we did in 2014 after selling Suarez. A lot of average to good players but not one true top class player to fill the void left by Suarez or in this case Lukaku. And no, I don't think Siggurdson will be that.

{Ed025's Note - time will tell reet but now at least koeman has his own side and not martinez,s cast off,s, i happen to think we have signed a bit of quality in the spine with pickford, keane, klassen and sandro not to mention who else might join the revolution, with suarez you never bought like for like and that was a big mistake in my opinion mate..


8.) 18 Jul 2017 16:51:44
Agreed Baz, who'd of thought LCFC would win the league with Huth and Morgan.
That's the beauty of the EPL, no one knows what's exactly going to happen.
La Liga Barcelona/ Madrid
Bundesliga Bayern/ Dortmund (minus this year)
Etc etc
EPL is definitely entertaining and no one for sure can say that a certain team can storm it.
I genuinely thought City were going to walk away with the league last season, extremely surprised that it was Chelsea (only because of the year before)

Either way I'm throughally excited about the upcoming season.
With or without our signings, if we manage to keep hold of couts and reports on Robertson I'd be okay.
Don't forget we've had a whole season with the same team. Other times have to interrogate new players, in Evertons case. Quite a few.

Y. n. w. a.

{Ed025's Note - when we interrogate our players we say..."ve haf vays of making you vin da league" K9.. :)


9.) 18 Jul 2017 17:53:47
Well the way Klopp is moving, it wouldn't surprise me.
But that was a tired autocorrection mistake 😂🙈.


10.) 19 Jul 2017 02:17:28
Why do people say Koeman has serious financial backing from the board? Based on just quoted trasfer fees in the press, they have a net spend less than LFC so far. I agree that when you sell the star player, like Suarez/ Bale/ Lukaku, there will be a period of difficulty maybe.


 

 

13 Jul 2017 13:27:30
Reet, i've got an idea for an article for you, here's the title

The Rise and Fall of AlansBarnett: From in the know to know one knows!

Look forward to reading it!

RedDawn

1.) 13 Jul 2017 13:39:28
I think it's been more of a disappearance into the bushes rather than fall. If we do sign Keita sometime I fully expect him to come out saying "I told you so"


2.) 13 Jul 2017 14:03:02
Alans off his Barnet lol. I enjoyed his posts.


3.) 13 Jul 2017 14:03:18
Think he said it was happening every day for about a month 😂😂😂.


4.) 13 Jul 2017 14:44:35
Just got a text from Alan, he reckons that there will be some tommoro evening .


5.) 13 Jul 2017 15:37:21
I don't claim to be ITK but I've heard from my taxi driver we should be expecting an appearance tomorrow from alansbarnet *FYI i will post this daily until it happens* ;)


6.) 13 Jul 2017 15:51:00
We'll only be getting an appearance from his barnet though, probably in a display case.

The rest of Alan remains in hiding.


7.) 13 Jul 2017 16:24:58
Being saying it for months all he does is just use other peoples info as his own. Embarrassing.


8.) 13 Jul 2017 17:03:26
I think he's good entertainment value.


9.) 13 Jul 2017 18:53:24
You lot are well harsh. I love info like that.


 

 

13 Jul 2017 13:21:58
Moving away from any current dramas, there's always one transfer that I can never wrap my head around from a Liverpool perspective.

We had Andre Wisdom, a big and quick defender who was decent on the ball and was still young, with Prem experience, and shipped him out only to replace him with Manquillo on loan. A young Spanish lad failing to get into his current team with no experience in the Prem whatsoever.

Can any of the Eds shed any light on the reasons (if there were any) behind this?

I know it's a long time ago but it's something that's always puzzled me.

Cheers in advance.

RedDawn

{Ed001's Note - I never understood the thinking in that one either. The reasoning given was that Manquillo was meant to be an attacking fullback with better technical skills who could play either side. Obviously no one had actually bothered to scout him (or if they had they should have been immediately sacked) or they would have known he was a terrible player with a poor workrate and no improvement on what we had.}


1.) 13 Jul 2017 13:47:59
If he moves to Liverpool, there will be fireworks but I guess it won't happen. I blame a short circuit somewhere.


2.) 13 Jul 2017 14:59:58
That made me think of Arbeloa out for £5M to Real Madrid and Glen Johnson in for £17.5M - another headscratcher. tho nowhere near as odd as the Robbie Keane debacle.

I know we all regret Xabi and Masch going too soon but what's the biggest transfer balls up in recent memory? Tempted to say getting rid of Calamity James and Brad Friedel considering the form they went on to have later on in their careers and the inconsistency we had with keepers when they left. Sander Westerweld anyone?


3.) 13 Jul 2017 15:28:43
Buying Andy Carroll.


4.) 13 Jul 2017 17:27:07
i think arbeloa though a really good right back for us wasn't going to command a high fee, we didn't pay much for him and he wanted to go to madrid so for once the club were decent with a player and allowed the move. robbie keane however was a different story and by all accounts was living a thoroughly less than professional lifestyle so benitez outed him, should have replaced him though.
biggest waste of money for me would be el hadji diouf for his disgraceful behaviour in a liverpool shirt and for sizeable investment completely wasted id have to say alberto aquilani.


5.) 13 Jul 2017 17:36:11
Selling Peter Crouch when we did. I was absolutely gutted.


6.) 13 Jul 2017 21:04:40
Jovanovic, Poulsen and Konchesky - the only point in my 37 year love affair with LFC that I thought we are no longer relevant and potentially heading towards the abyss.


7.) 13 Jul 2017 22:56:41
Add Joe Cole too, BobbyF.


8.) 14 Jul 2017 00:33:28
I to this day am annoyed that Suarez and Torres were never allowed to play with each other. Of course Torres never was the same at Chelsea we got good money at the time and brought in Sturridge who meshed well with Suarez but I loved El Nino and think we win the league with those two up top. Also thought trying to replace Alonso was an idiotic thing to do as he was one of the best in world football at the time.


9.) 13 Jul 2017 23:36:43
Yet we sold Martin Kelly that season as well to accomodate two totally crap RB's in GJ and Manquillo, who were later replaced with another poor RB in Clyne, all under BR's watch. Trust me, the damage BR's incompetence did to this club is still being felt. Thank Heavens, Klopp found us TAA in the academy who to me, is the real deal.


10.) 14 Jul 2017 07:16:09
Agreed Voronin. By the way, you weren't far off from making the list. I wasn't expecting Voronin to be a world beater but I was hoping he would be a good quality attacking option.


 

 

23 Jun 2017 09:50:05
Just want to give a bit of praise to Migs for how well he played towards the back end of last season.

It's a testament to how good he was that we aren't all clamouring for a new GK to be signed.

With Karius to compete with and a confident Danny Ward on the books it's looking quite good in that department at the moment.

Long may it continue!

RedDawn

1.) 23 Jun 2017 12:36:44
I should apologise cause I've slated migs and to be fair if it wasn't for him I really don't think we would of made top 4 this year so SORRY bud keep it up 👍.


 

 

22 Jun 2017 19:53:35
No idea if the rumours are true but if Ben Gibson is available for less than £20mill he has to be just as good a buy as Van Dijk if not better.

RedDawn

1.) 22 Jun 2017 20:04:41
Apart from the fact he's nowhere near as good in the air, or on the ball, or in the tackle, or as physically imposing, or as quick, then yes. Why not chuck £20m at a very mediocre player who isn't an improvement on any player currently at the club. Personally I'd rather give Gomez a chance than waste good money on Gibson as Gomez is a better footballer.


2.) 22 Jun 2017 20:14:51
What on earth has Gomez done to show he is better?

Gibson was a shining light in a very poor Boro team. He is calm on the ball, he reads the game very well and he is a very intelligent footballer. Exactly what we need, a level head, unlikely to make mistakes.

Gibson will be an excellent CB for years to come.

I'm not saying Van Dijk won't but he'll also cost 3x as much.


3.) 22 Jun 2017 20:52:43
Not sure we watched the same player. Gibson was in a team that sat back and defended all the time and let's be honest, Boro were awful and there were no shining lights in that team, the idea that he reads the game well is a bit of a fallacy, given that he was never really in a situation that required much more than getting bodies behind the ball, he also lost a lot headers for a centre back and really isn't great in the air (given our record on conceding from crosses, that isn't good), in the two games against us he was pulled out position, didn't win headers, didn't make tackles, was quite slow and looked anything but a good centre back. Gomez is taller, physically more imposing, better in the air, quicker and actually a very good footballer. He's been unlucky with some rotten injuries and I'd much rather give him the chance than throw money at a player who is a mid table player at best.


4.) 22 Jun 2017 20:57:27
Red dawn I agree I think Gibson could do well with us. Let's hope we get some good additions and push on from our 4th position.


5.) 22 Jun 2017 21:47:19
Agree to disagree then I think.

I thought Gibson was excellent all season and the fact that he has had to fight against the claims of nepotism due to who his uncle is shows he has the mental strength to succeed as well.

That being said I do rate Gomez as well and would love him to be considered ahead of Klavan for this season.


6.) 22 Jun 2017 21:53:45
We need a centre back who is quick, strong and dominant in the air. Gibson doesn't posses any of these properties.


 

 

 

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21 Jul 2017 21:13:28
Hi Ed002, do you believe that Liverpool have the means to buy both Keita and VVD without selling Coutinho? Or will that be a stretch too far financially?

(avoiding any me too of figures of course)

Cheers in advance.

RedDawn

{Ed002's Note - It is to do with a separate matter - move on from the money.}


 

 

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21 Jul 2017 15:56:55
You've still provided no solution whatsoever to the non existent problem that you have created in your own head.

How would you like to see the club run?

A rich oligarch? Fan ownership? American style franchise system?

I am intrigued to learn the Ozone method of running a football club. Please do enlighten me oh great one.

RedDawn

 

 

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21 Jul 2017 14:43:08
So you want them to fund the purchase of a world class player to cover for one player going away for 6 weeks?

Where is this money coming from?

You seem to have no idea on how to run a business. You can't just pump money into it and hope for the best. The people who own the club are investors, they are not a charity.

Every club should aim to run without debt, at the moment, Liverpool has a huge amount of debt, and the owners have put more money into the club than they have taken out of the club.

The proof of the pudding will be when the club is actually making a profit and whether investment will come then or whether we will just be another Arsenal.

But at the moment, the owners have not made any profit whatsoever, and unless they sell up then they won't any time soon.

This is fantasy fairy land stuff where you think money grows on trees and the club should spend money they don't have.

I'm not going to ask the Eds to back me up on this because they won't want to get in to talking about money, but i'm sure they would agree that Liverpool do not have the money nor the means to invest in the squad more heavily than they are at the moment.

Anyway, i can see we won't agree so i'll wish you well and say goodbye.

RedDawn

 

 

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21 Jul 2017 14:16:54
I still don't get what you want Ozone?

You want us to spend massive amounts of money on loads of players because taking a punt on a "good addition" isn't enough?

Where is this money coming from? Are you going to give the club the extra millions needed to make this possible?

The owners have put more money in than they have taken out, that is simple fact, they are yet to make any profit on their investment whatsoever, so how on earth are they the ones ruining the club?

Mindless!

RedDawn

 

 

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21 Jul 2017 13:14:16
Wow Ozone's bnack with a blast.

Must say io disagree with everything you've said. These owners saved our club from oblivion and have pumped significantly more money in than they have taken out, that is simply just a fact.

But the truth is that football clubs have to be a business. If you want to shift towards fan ownership then fine, but prepare for a life much lower down the footballing pyramid. Just how much did Ebbsfleet progress under fan ownership?

Klopp does have a say in the matter, as does everyone in a senior position at the club. It is not a case of edicts coming from America to do whatever they want, it is a club, with most people trying to work together.

All players do have a price. Yes we may not be able to get Keita for £60mill or £65mill or £70mill. but if we were to offer say £500mill, then we would sign him. So every player does have a price.

We have progressed since Klopp arrived, not as fast as he said we would and the owners assumed we would, but we have progressed. So who cares if the net spend is in the black? In fact, I want net spend to be in the black if at all possible.

And actually, if you want rid of these "yank penny pinching hedge fund managers" then you should want the club in the black. Who on earth is going to pay for the running of the club if we are spending beyond our means every transfer window?

Perhaps you just want a rich middle eat prince to come in and splash their oil money and fill the team with mercenaries. In which case that is not the club I love.

The owners aren't perfect, they are in it to make money, and they have made significant mistakes over their time at the club, but they are trying to fix those issues, they have expanded the stadium at great expense, they have brought in the manager that almost everybody wanted and they are trying to do it right. And with people like Kenny still involved in the club the club still has a heart which cares about the people at the club, the fans and the people in the city.

All I want is to enjoy watching my club play football, and selling one player, however good they are, isn't going to stop that.

If Coutinho leaves then I wish him all the best, he has given me some great memories. If he stays then he will continue making those memories I'm sure.

If we sign Keita then great, he looks a good player and i'll enjoy watching him play. If we don't then ah well, we have lots of good players already and i enjoy watching them play.

Anyway, it's good to have you back Ozone, despite not agreeing with you in anyway whatsoever.

All the best everyone, i'm off to the pub!

RedDawn

 

 

 

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24 Jul 2017 14:09:07
With regards this non-story, the chances are this is just a guy putting in a bad tackle in training, happens every day it's only being reported because of all the media interest.

However, if there is any possibility at all that Keita is attempting to injure players to try and force a move then I don't want him anywhere near Liverpool thank you very much.

However, this total conjecture and all rather pointless.

RedDawn

 

 

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24 Jul 2017 13:43:58
I thought you were omniscient Ed002?

RedDawn

{Ed002's Note - Omnipotent actually.}


 

 

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21 Jul 2017 21:15:52
No, Isco is nothing special.

I would take Asensio, but I don't think Isco would be an improvement on what we have, even if Coutinho left.

RedDawn

 

 

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20 Jul 2017 13:31:15
I always thought that Mark Gonzalez was an excellent player. But he suffered so many horrific injuries at a young age he was never going to make it to the very top level.

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20 Jul 2017 12:35:51
I think it's perfectly reasonable for a club to contact a player's agent and ask them "If we were to make a bid, would you client be interested in talking to us? "

What is not reasonable is to talk directly to the player themselves, discuss money and terms with them and then announce to the media what your intentions are with regards to that player without ever contacting his club to inform them of any interest. All in the hope that the player tells his club he wants to leave and to leave them with little to no option but to sell him for cheaper then they think is reasonable.

No wonder clubs are getting annoyed at us. All we are doing is shooting ourselves in the foot every time we act like this.

RedDawn