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03 Jun 2019 13:46:58
Afternoon all,

I know this is a random name but I have searched the posts and can't find anything.

A German friend of a friend has told me that Liverpool have been monitoring Timothy Chandler's return from injury and that he is seen as an option who could cover both RB and LB.

I'll be honest but he's someone i've never heard of before so seems to obscure to just be paper talk.

Any truth in this Eds?

Cheers in advance.

RedDawn

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any interest, and it would be enormously risky.}


 

 

09 Feb 2018 12:55:03
Hi Eds,

Last summer I read that Liverpool were interested in signing Houssem Aouar but that the player did not want to leave his hometown club at such a young age and decided to stay and continue his development.

There was quite a lot of talk about this young midfielder so i've taken the time to watch him on a couple of occasions this season and I must say he looks the real deal. He's a combative midfielder, confident on the ball, good running with the ball but above all else helps out his defenders very effectively.

My question is whether the interest from Liverpool last summer was actually genuine, or just made up by the tabloids?

And if it was genuine do you know if Liverpool (or any other clubs) retain an interest in the player for this summer or beyond?

Cheers in advance have a great Friday.

RedDawn

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool looked at Houssem Aouar the year before last when he was in the Lyon Under 19s - that scout has since left Liverpool. Arsenal looked earlier this season and Barcelona talked money with Lyon but were rather shocked by the sort of price Lyon would be looking to ask even if he were for sale, which they say he isn't.}


1.) 09 Feb 2018 15:47:29
Cheers Ed. Looks like Liverpool would be priced out of a move in any event, especially with Lyon's record of dealing with English clubs.

Shame, he looks like he could be really special and the perfect player on the left of a midfield 3 like Liverpool play.

All the best anyway and have a great weekend.


 

 

30 Aug 2017 16:47:01
Maybe this will help for the evening rush


Coutinho - Barcelona are still interested. The club and Klopp did not want to sell. Klopp now does not want to keep him and he will likely move.

Lemar - We are interested. Monaco have so far not accepted an offer from us. The offers may or may not include Origi. If we make Monaco an acceptable offer he will likely sign.

Van Dijk - Thus club are still very interested. Soton have repeatedly said they do not want to sell. There has been significant damage done to the relationship with Soton and as such a deal seems unlikely at present. Soton would need to soften their stance and we would need to overpay to get him. He might end up elsewhere.

AOC - We are interested. It does not depend on other transfers. He wants the move and Klopp likes him. Looks like a good chance this will happen.

Koulibaly - There was interest earlier in the summer, we made an offer, it was rejected. Now that Napoli have qualified for the CL and we have left it so late this is a non starter.

Howedes - We were never interested. Has moved elsewhere anyway.

Mahrez - We are not interested.

Draxler - We are not interested.

Drinkwater - We are not interested.

Luan - We were interested. Complex third party ownership issues, will definitely not happen this summer, may be one for later.

GKs - We are not looking to sign any GKs. Lots of speculation about Migs leaving. Eds have not confirmed this in any way. Unlikely to be any change this summer.

Keita - Joining next summer.

Can - Has not signed a new contract. No developments on this. He will want guarantees on involvement. Will be difficult with AOC maybe coming and Keita coming next summer.

Sakho - Wanted by Crystal Palace. We rejected their latest offer. Holding out for more money. The club want rid, will likely be resolved before the end of the window. West Brom might be interested.

Ings - Not likely to go on loan. Will stay and improve fitness with a view to be a rotation option later in the season.

Sturridge - Not going anywhere this summer.

Milner - Not going anywhere this summer.

Origi - Could be loaned out but leaving it late to sort it now.

Moreno - Now very likely to stay

Klavan - Not going anywhere this summer

Lallana - Rumours of Spurs interest. Eds have not confirmed this. Not moving this summer.

Mane - Inter were interested. No plans to sell.


I think that covers just about everyone.

RedDawn

1.) 30 Aug 2017 17:07:25
Good summary RedDawn.


2.) 30 Aug 2017 17:32:01
Thanks, RedDawn. I will just add one more thing. Lemar is on Barca's radar and per French media, he is keen on them as well. We shall see.


3.) 30 Aug 2017 18:09:05
Top marks for opinion RedDawn.


4.) 30 Aug 2017 17:37:27
Excellent summary Reddawn hopefully save the eds some editing this evening!


 

 

06 Aug 2017 22:06:32
Be prepared for the outrage Eds.

Apparently we have agreed to let Coutinho leave.

Let the panic buying commence!

RedDawn

1.) 06 Aug 2017 22:16:07
I'd like to see all those who said we could compete for a top four place say it now. This is a hammer blow to our season.


2.) 06 Aug 2017 22:20:01
Ed's, batten down the hatches and put up the sand bags. It's going to get choppy!


3.) 06 Aug 2017 22:24:09
Heard the same it's all over the Internet.


4.) 06 Aug 2017 22:24:09
Heard the same it's all over the Internet.


5.) 06 Aug 2017 22:41:07
It going be alright who wants that PL trophy dripping in saudi oil anyway.
In FSG we trust. FACT.


6.) 06 Aug 2017 22:34:43
let's get as much as we can then put a bid in for lewendowski bayen munich are shambles at the moment maybe a new challenge might suit him wasn't he at dortmand with klopp too? .


7.) 06 Aug 2017 22:52:13
Lewandowski is on the downward curve of his career.


8.) 06 Aug 2017 23:04:45
Fake News!


9.) 06 Aug 2017 23:09:59
fine if coutinho leaves, especially if he doesn't want to be here.


10.) 06 Aug 2017 23:35:31
Faithinworks, take it you'll be happy with a season of failure.


11.) 06 Aug 2017 23:43:58
The issue isn't if Coutinho goes but the fact that it doesn't leave much time to find a replacement. for this reason I find it hard to believe we would sell. We will see though.


12.) 07 Aug 2017 00:41:10
frankly - obviously not fine with a failed season. but what are you going to do if and when coutinho leaves this summer? just have a cry?
not me, up for the season no matter what happens. look forward to see if we bring anyone in, and if not then will be excited to see how we step up and fill the void.


13.) 07 Aug 2017 01:18:19
It would be a huge blow, yes, but he played on the wing last season. who's expecting to start on the wing this season? Mane and Salah. The reality is whether deliberate or not, we actually have brought in someone new in his position already.

As much as I want him to stay, we also can't hold him against his will. I pray the report isn't true, but if it is, we can survive and hopefully replace him with someone special sooner rather than later.


14.) 07 Aug 2017 01:44:22
Emre Morr would be a fantastic replacement he's younger and quicker than Coutinho. We still do not have a better goalkeeper that can be trusted to do the job and instill confidence in the team. We also need a commanding central midfielder that can balls going through the middle so easily. We give away goals to easy through the middle of the park and set pieces. You don't need to be the best manager to see these mistakes it is so simple to sort out and starts by getting rid of players like Henderson who is so ordinary and the height of our defence will always be beaten.


15.) 07 Aug 2017 04:47:07
Jesus frankly, get a hold of yourself man!


16.) 07 Aug 2017 04:47:11
Lewandowski is not on a downward curve! That is total made up nonsense. It's embarrassing how many agree. He is 28 for god sake. Not to mention his goal tally last season of 43 in all competitions was the best of his career to date. The 42 the season before wasn't too shabby either.

I posted about this the other day, but it is truly shocking how the mentality of our fans has shifted. We'd rather sign a 21 year old with potential than a 28 year old who is ready to lead us to trophies from day one. Lewandowski is probably only second in world football to Luis Suarez as a central striker. If he was available and we turned it down because he is 28, I'd genuinely want heads to roll in our clubs recruitment team because that would be almost laughable. Anybody else remember United signing a 28 year old Van Persie and winning the league with his goals? And his injuries meant he actually was on a downward curve. But he was still good enough to fire them to the title with 30 goals!

{Ed001's Note - as a central striker, Lewandowski is the best in the world. As a player overall though, Suarez is a better player, he does more for the team. It is like comparing Ian Rush and Kenny Dalglish, Rush was without a doubt the better striker, but Dalglish was the better player and you would pick him every time. I am not sure if I am agreeing or disagreeing with you here MKS, just trying to explain my own thinking really, so probably neither!

However, anyone that would not take Lewandowski for their team right at this moment is utterly insane or absolutely clueless. He is world class. He is the kind of player that makes opposition teams completely change their set up to cope with him. He gives defenders panic attacks just leading up to the game they have to deal with him.}


17.) 07 Aug 2017 04:50:07
For all the talk about Klopp and team calling all the shots, this will be another humiliating admittance to our conduct of business in the transfer market - if true this is a big fat slap on Klopp's mouth. I think this deal won't happen though - it's just too short sighted for us to sell Couts when we have a CL match coming so soon. What a way to show our ambition before we start the season.


18.) 07 Aug 2017 05:20:38
I understand your logic Ed, no worries. In fact I probably agree with your assessment on it. Lewandowski scores more goals in a tougher league, but like you say, Suarez does more in terms of pressing, creating etc and probably can win a game from nothing like no other player in the world. As a pure striker though, I'd agree you cannot top Lewandowski. I'm still in shock that someone just insinuated they wouldn't want him. This could take me some time to comprehend.

{Ed001's Note - it is unreal. I think some people just don't actually watch these players play before they make their judgements on them.}


19.) 07 Aug 2017 05:27:27
MKS, this is the most sense i've seen on here for a while! Thanks for proving that there are sensible reds still out there. Ed001, you're spot on too!

{Ed001's Note - cheers hoh.}


20.) 07 Aug 2017 06:02:39
I would love Suarez back, imagine having him up front with attack we have at the moment! Crazy attack! I would take him all day long in place of couts. I am a little worried about the timing to be honest and our ability to find an adequate replacement. Maybe we should ask the question, we will take Suarez and 50 million please lol.


21.) 07 Aug 2017 07:16:59
I would do the same as we did with Suarez. Tell Coutinho he can leave, at the end of the season when we have thoroughly scouted a decent shortlist if replacements.
Only difference is that Suarez also needed that season to upgrade his transfer prospects from Arsenal to Barcelona, Coutinho doesn't need to convince Barcelona to come for him.


22.) 07 Aug 2017 08:19:15
One thing is for sure, Coutinho is no Suarez, he goes missing in games and is definitely replaceable, just hope we do t see Salah as the replacement. At the minute we look really strong in attack, without Coutinho and Lallana injured we lack quality.


23.) 07 Aug 2017 08:20:39
Lewa is a beast of a player, Ed and to me, Klopp's greatest creation. The complete CF who has pace, power, movement, pressing ability, aerial ability, the whole lot. He has NO weaknesses, period. If we ever bought a CF, he would be the one I would get.


24.) 07 Aug 2017 08:22:22
Sorry but Lewandowski is at the wrong end of his career, he'll be 29 this summer, not the age you join the premier league. He's had a great career, but if he joined us at this point there is far to much risk attached to it. The example of van Persie is a poor comparison given that van Persie was familiar with the premier league and didn't need to adjust. If we blew money on Lewandowski we'd be running the risk of doing a Chelsea and signing the equivalent of Shevchenko. I'm not saying he isn't a great player, but at 29 years old, he'd be too much of a risk.


25.) 07 Aug 2017 08:24:47
Spot on, Andy. That is what I would do as well but hey, I'm not the manager nor am I FSG. Those saying that "he's not world class anyway or he's inconsistent so he can go" are deluding themselves and have learnt absolutely nothing from the Torres and Suarez debacles. If we just let him go this season with no time to find a suitable replacement (I don't see anyone out there who can in the short term), we will regret it, period.


26.) 07 Aug 2017 08:43:26
Frankly Mr shankly do you have anything positive to say ever on this page, my god you sound like a child.


27.) 07 Aug 2017 08:46:21
Frankly I understand your opinion mate, but world class players can adapt. Shevchenko came from Italy to the Prem at a time when the tempo in the two divisions were at polar opposites, yes. But he also just failed massively to settle.

The Bundesliga is a similar tempo to the modern day Prem as the league is now flooded with continental managers anyway, but Lewandowski has a playing style suited to the English leagues.

It is always a lottery signing a new striker anyway. Drogba and Ibrahimović did all right adapting to a new league at a later stage in their career, whilst players like Bony and Benteke who were seemingly proven couldn't even adapt to a new club at a younger age; so that shows how it is more down to the individual than just what league they come from.


28.) 07 Aug 2017 08:55:35
Hard work you bet your a good to be around lewandowski would make my team before coutinho.

And if you're banding names of failures in the prem I'll match your shevchenko with an ibrahimovic.


29.) 07 Aug 2017 09:04:31
There aren't any positives, we are going into the new season without our best player, we will in all likelihood replace a top class player with mediocre players (there's a rumour doing the rounds that we're going to sign Oxlade for £28m which supports that point), we haven't been able to bring in our top targets and we still look hopelessly weak in midfield and defence.


30.) 07 Aug 2017 09:17:37
Didn't Utd sign RVP at 29 and then promptly win the league? . I would have no qualms with Lewandoski (not that it will happen thou! )


31.) 07 Aug 2017 09:24:12
There's is no support till it happens.

Reports suggest, nothing has actually happend yet, nothing is certain he hasn't gone yet.

Better to save judgement till the window is shut. It's not healthy to stress so much, bad news it's not been the best news the good news we haven't lost a pre season game we have a qualifier and European football to look forward to and the window is still open. Anything is still possible.


32.) 07 Aug 2017 09:30:44
United only got one really good season out of van Persie, the other two were blighted by injury. So again a poor comparison. As for Ibrahimovic, there was no risk as it was a free transfer, Lewandowski would cost a huge amount of money as well as the wages, so it's very comparable to Shevchenko. A couple of years ago, Lewandowski would be a great signing, but now? Not really, And even then, why leave Bayern when they are already in the Champions League and likely to win the title to come to a club in disarray?

{Ed001's Note - free? Zlatan was far from free.}


33.) 07 Aug 2017 09:41:31
Poor comparison? He helped win the league so worth every penny.


34.) 07 Aug 2017 09:42:24
Spot on Leeeee and BTW, it is only in the Catalan/ Spanish media tabloids printing rubbish on a bid to put pressure on LFC to sell Cou and to also get their fans excited for a new arrival. Discussions may be going on as Ed02 has said BUT there is nothing to it. We should stand our ground like RBL did for Keita and not sell. Cou can then be given a couple of weeks to sort his head out and then come back ready to go for the season. We simply cannot sell our best player, end of. If we do, we might as well be a selling club with no ambition and be done with it.


35.) 07 Aug 2017 09:53:09
Same reason neymar left Barca, money new challenge.

I'm not saying he's the answer but you wouldn't be happy if couts goes, you won't be happy if we replace with a lanzini coz he substandard, you won't be happy if we replace with lewandowski who could be considered world class.

You'd only be happy if we force him stay and make him love us and hate Barca, can't expect 100% from someone who's probable dreamed of playing for Barca, and is forced to stay at liverpool.

On the other hand he maybe happy to 1 more year but it's inevitable he will leave imo so we will face this impasse at some point.


36.) 07 Aug 2017 09:56:20
Lewandoski would easily score 25+ in the EPL and no way is he on a downward curve. Anybody that thinks that are mad and mustn't have watched any other football the last couple of seasons apart from LFC games.


37.) 07 Aug 2017 09:56:23
If couts wants to go take the best price and move on for, we don't want an unhappy player at the club as the eds say players come and go it's just the way of the business.


38.) 07 Aug 2017 13:40:54
Lewandowski's age is not an issue at this time, as he is not injury prone.

He would score for fun in the EPL. We would probably win the league if we signed him.


39.) 07 Aug 2017 18:00:03
Lewzndolski sold be brilliant signing. He's getting on but still on of world's best.


40.) 07 Aug 2017 18:08:36
Anyone who doubts lewandolski is crazy. The guy is one of best players in the world, at peak of his prowess. The issue is. Is he likely to sign for liverpool? Doubt it guys. Let's quit dreaming.


41.) 07 Aug 2017 18:11:42
Lewandolski is pure class and anyone who says otherwise would have serious trouble picking 11 players to field a team. If he's not good enough for you, then who is for god sake. 3 messi's 4 ronaldos and 4 Gareth bales.?

Frankly, lfc are not the most loved team in the world. We have enough haters across the park and down the motorway. We need our fans to SUPPORT our team. What do you suggest we do? Lock the gates of an field forever and give up coz our star player (whom we bought for 8 mil) is getting his dream move. For around 100 mil

Lfc have a habit of giving their very best players special treatment. Coutinio is that man atm. If you think so much of him, as the club do, how can you stand in the way of what was probably his boyhood dream?


 

 

07 Jun 2017 16:53:52
Rumours now circulating that we have moved on from Van Dijk and have made an offer for Stefan De Vrij.

No idea how trustworthy these are.

Any ideas anyone? Eds?

RedDawn

{Ed002's Note - I can't help, sorry. He would however be a good buy.}


1.) 07 Jun 2017 17:17:48
I'd tend to agree on that Ed002. Given that he is in the last year of his contract the fee is likely to also be a bit more reasonable.

A little concerned by the fact that he primarily plays on the right of the CBs though. We saw how much Lovren struggled when he was moved from LCB to RCB.


2.) 07 Jun 2017 17:25:11
Its being reported on Football Italia via Sky that we have had a €20m bid turned down, with Lazio apparently holding out for closer to €35m.

He would be just over half the cost of VVD.

I know nothing about him other than it was reported 2 years ago that he was keen on a move to Liverpool when he left Feyenord, and was ultimately bought by Lazio.

Ed002, would you be able to elaborate on why you think he would be a good option?

Also, any views from peeps who watch the Italian league?

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure where you get the "just over half" rom but De Vrij's contract is running down and he is a very good player who is attracting interest from a number of high-profile sides.}


3.) 07 Jun 2017 18:00:38
Thanks Ed002, I should steer clear of finances!

I was talking purely in terms of reported transfer fees, with Lazio holding for c£30m (€35m according to the Football Italia report) and VVD costing c£60m + or -. I think the figures reported by the journalist who broke the story (can't remember his name) are just over £50m including add ons, although that could indeed go up significantly if tapping up is an issue, as you said in reply to another post.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not struck any financial deal with Southampton whatsoever.}


4.) 07 Jun 2017 18:21:30
Is De Vrij not a bit of a crock?

{Ed002's Note - Yes.}


 

 

 

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05 Jan 2020 21:25:39
Hi Ed001,

Loving the idea of this article, sounds really interesting.

While you're on the idea of comparison articles would you be able to fit one in about how this Liverpool team compares to the "great" teams of Premier Leagues in the last 30 years?

Im thinking the treble winning United team, Arsenal's invincible, Jose's first stint at Chelsea and Man City under Pep.

Would be very interesting to see your take on how this Liverpool team compares to some of them.

All the best mate, keep up the good work.

RedDawn

{Ed001's Note - I have added that to the list for you mate.}


1.) 05 Jan 2020 22:03:50
Technically we are as good if not better than any Premier league team has been. We have to add more trophies to be considered the very best. Pretty sure that prem title is coming this year and with a squad in their prime with exciting youngsters and old pros too, we could dominate for a long time.


2.) 05 Jan 2020 23:04:38
Robbie, and with Klopp being here for another 4-5 years, we could be the most dominant team the PL has ever seen.


3.) 05 Jan 2020 23:44:25
Treble winning invincible centurions is still on, can someone let klopp know.


4.) 06 Jan 2020 04:56:32
Sorry to piss on some fires but there's a fine line between belief and hyperbole. Weve won two proper trophies in a decade. Our recent results have been excellent but, like Robbiesline said, it means very little without silverware. We could win the treble this season or we could win absolutely FA. Right now we have phenomenal potential and a very bright looking future but until we have the success of previous Arsenal, Man U and Chelsea teams i don't see any comparisons.


 

 

27 Dec 2019 21:13:09
This is a purely hypothetical question and just for a bit of fun:

If Salah were to leave and Liverpool were to get Mbappe, completely ignoring the money aspect, would Liverpool have improved their squad or not?

Cheers in advance.

RedDawn

1.) 27 Dec 2019 22:02:26
Salah is a fantastic player and terrifies defenders, makes questionable decisions with the ball sometimes but its just all part of his game, doesn’t stop him from being one of the best in the world. He’s particularly improved his game with his back to goal recently, he’s been fantastic in that respect.

However, it is hard to look past Mbappe because he is a generational talent. A Messi, a Ronaldo Nazario, i certainly don’t think i’ve seen a better player at his age in my lifetime. I’m convinced that if Klopp got his hands on him he would turn him into the best in the world.


2.) 27 Dec 2019 22:13:31
Like for like in my opinion. salah isn't the same player as his first season. because he's a marked man. mbappe would be too. Both are world class already. Mbappe is like lightning and clinical. Salah is more skillful though.


3.) 27 Dec 2019 22:23:30
Guys, the days of losing our best players is over. Since coutinio's it hasn't happened. I guess his choice has been a bit of a lesson. Why would you leave the European and world (soon to be English) champions. Who wouldn't want to play for klopp?

And our best players aren't going anywhere. Vvd is here for good. Same as Ali, firmino, hendo, taa.


4.) 27 Dec 2019 22:31:52
Why change what is clearly working. 3 trophies in 6 month.


5.) 27 Dec 2019 22:43:36
According to Transfermarkt, Mbappe is worth $45m more and he's obviously younger, so in terms of squad value, it could be argued that he'd be a long term improvement.

However.

He's right footed. Salah is left footed. In terms of balance and symmetry, surely Salah is better for the system in a straight swap.


6.) 27 Dec 2019 22:49:11
Squad is very good at the moment but would still like another couple of players in. chieso would be excellent and if I had to go for another I'd say bruno Fernandes. Along with mimi. let's not rest on our lorals and keep building.
But at this moment in time who can't be happy. love it.


7.) 27 Dec 2019 22:50:39
Salah is not in his class in my opinion and a team always needs improvement.
Players come and go Salah would be no different to any other player that has played for us and been replaced.


8.) 27 Dec 2019 23:55:58
I love Salah and don’t won’t him to leave but if he departed in the summer and Mpappe joined (will never happen in a million years) then 100% yes. Mpappe has the potential to be a generational great and is already world class.


9.) 27 Dec 2019 23:34:40
Mbappe that old chestnut! We just bought mini👍 That kid going to be brilliant for us. I think mo is a gready f*cker I reckon mini will make mo up his game. You won’t want to swap him then.


10.) 28 Dec 2019 00:17:43
We won't be signing mbappe. Not happening. He would cost 100mil+. Klopp won't spend that. I'd rather have mane.


11.) 28 Dec 2019 10:43:49
Both world class players but sometimes it’s better to go with the devil you know. Salah is a proven premier league world class player and Mbappe isn’t.


12.) 28 Dec 2019 12:37:23
Salah is a proven, international superstar. He is a world class talent who can play all three attacking positions and is turning into a pretty good CF. His mere presence on the pitch, gives opponents fits. Yet w/ all this, he is still improving his game (using his right foot, back to goal, creator etc. ) .

Mbappe is a generational talent like Ronaldo Nazario before him. Would I take him at LFC? No question BUT as JK23 said, I take the guy I know which is Salah. As talented as Mbappe is, I can only hope he fulfills his potential. With Salah, he is doing that right now and still improving. Salah, all day for me.


 

 

05 Nov 2019 17:07:08
Looks like we'll be playing 2 games in 24hours then.

1 squad for the Carabao and 1 squad for the Club Worlds.

I know it's early doors, but what kind of squads would be pick for these?

Would you take the first team in full out to Qatar to benefit from the warm weather and the facilities?

Or would you send the youth to Qatar and focus on the domestic cups?

Or 3rd option, would you split the squad down the middle and keep some first teamers in each?

Ed001, what would you do?

Cheers in advance.

RedDawn

{Ed001's Note - not a clue, this is ridiculous considering it was the FA and EFL that said players should not be made to play games within 24 hours of each other. The whole thing is a joke and makes a mockery of both competitions.}


1.) 05 Nov 2019 17:47:03
It can’t happen surely. It’s not just two squad in two days, it’ll mean the team at the club world Cup would have to play twice in a week also - with limited subs.

If it does, I’d leave a first 11 here with a couple of the regular subs. Then send everyone else to the club World Cup and give the first team a rest after the cup game.


2.) 05 Nov 2019 17:56:29
I'd imagine we'd put out a strong (not full strength) team out that Klopp thinks will beat Villa. Probably stronger than the team that played against Arsenal, who will then fly out to Qatar after the match.

If you look at who we'd be likely to face in the WCC, pretty much any side we field from our squad should be able to do the job.

We'll play one of three teams in the first game: Hienghène Sport (from New Caledonia), Al-Sadd (from Qatar), or Monterrey (Mexico - and probably most likely) .


3.) 05 Nov 2019 18:02:38
I expect it to change . or we will field the under 23 . the first team squad will be going to Qatar.


4.) 05 Nov 2019 18:08:14
We have to look to win the CWC imo and send the first team squad to Qatar to utilise the facilities and warm weather, then leave the youngsters for Villa surely Ed’s?

{Ed001's Note - that does seem the most logical course of action.}


5.) 05 Nov 2019 18:43:42
The club have agreed to play a similar level of side versus villa a we did against arsenal and earlier rounds. Though I can imagine Klopp would leave the likes of Origi, Milner, ox etc behind so likely to be the kids.

Shame as against first team of villas going to be very tough away but we have to prioritise.

Biggest winners are ManCity as we are likely only team that can stop them.


6.) 05 Nov 2019 19:05:52
think it was in 2000/ 01 when Man Utd and Arsenal had to play each other in the league on Sat followed by the League cup again on Sun. It was then that Fergie called it the Mickey Mouse cup as he was so annoyed by the ridiculous fixture arrangement.

seems like after 20 years, nothing has changed.


7.) 05 Nov 2019 19:43:22
I’d give 2 fingers to the fa and play kids for the league cup absolute shambles what football has come to 2 games in 24hrs absolute bull! Go to wc and win it it’s never been won and will gives us a bit of advertising globally. could be 50 years before we are ever in it again regardless if it’s a Mickey Mouse cup least we’ve won it (if we do)! I can’t see it been much bigger then the league cup the only difference is the travel if u ask me!


8.) 05 Nov 2019 20:22:27
Cant be right can it? Surely this would be a first. The club have to be given the same opportunity to field a team they deem good enough to win as every other club in the competition. If not then the club should pull from the League Cup under protest. It sounds like sour grapes but the club shouldn't be penalised for being successful. Did United have to play 2 games in 24 hours when they played in the Club Championship? Maybe they did!


9.) 05 Nov 2019 23:21:41
> If not then the club should pull from the League Cup under protest
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Irish, alternative dates were offered and considered but for some reason the club decided playing different set of players is the best option . I think Klopp wants to get over the headache and get it done with . You never know the kids may have the game of their lives and if we win all 3 games . oh boy that will be something special.


10.) 06 Nov 2019 00:56:29
Thankfully neither are really critically important, the real worry for me is injuries

I’d split The seniors down the middle and fill out the squads using u23s, should be able to put together two decent squads of 10 first teamers and 10 kids for each competition. The only really major problems would probably be in the fullback positions and in the forwards where we are a bit light.


11.) 06 Nov 2019 07:49:24
I'd just let the kids play against villa and hope they can do a job. At the end of the day it's only a 1/ 4 final. There's then a 2 leg semi final and final before the end of February to play. So you're not guaranteed to win trophy anyway and sure Klopp is looking if we were to go through you've then got. Other league games being effected. So I'm sure he wouldn't be distraught if we got knocked out and he has a perfectly good excuse if we do. Also it would be surely a lot better on the commercial front to be world club champions than Carabou cup winners. But as always let's hope we win it all.


12.) 06 Nov 2019 13:41:23
Interesting options. Anyone fancy putting up the roe two squads. I don’t know enough about the under 23’s etc to do so but keen to see some people opinions.


13.) 06 Nov 2019 14:45:55
I’d go with

CWC
Allison
Trent, Gomez, VVD, Robbo
Ox, Fabinho, Gini
Salah, Firmino, Origi
Subs : Elliott, Herbie Kane, Hoever, Van der Berg, Kelleher

Carabao
Adrian
Nico W, Matip, Gomez, Larouci
Milner, Hendo, Keita
Shaqiri, Brewster, Mane
Subs : Curtis Jones, Lallana, Chirivella, Adam Lewis, Gallaher, Lonergan

I hear Koumetio is well rated but don’t know much about him, also there are others like Dixon-Bonner, Abdi Sharif, Fidel O’Rourke, Jake Cain, Christie-Davies to fill out the squads.


14.) 06 Nov 2019 15:42:38
I don't think Hendo club captain and Mane will appreciate being left behind and not having a chance to win a club world cup medal . the first team squad will be going as is.

{Ed001's Note - you do realise they can join up for the final? It is only the semi that clashes.}


15.) 06 Nov 2019 17:07:42
{Ed001's Note - you do realise they can join up for the final? It is only the semi that clashes. }
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Agree and that's what I thought initially, but the statement from the club said "we will be utilising two playing squads simultaneously, with one squad participating in the FIFA Club World Cup in Qatar and another in the Carabao Cup. " So not sure if that means completely different sets and the cwc squad needs to be in Doha from the 14th? In the debate programme on Sky last night suggested the playing squad needs to be there by then .

{Ed001's Note - the club might well choose to do that, but they can bring other players out. They could use one team for the semi and a completely different one for the final. The only problem is that it would be a lot of travelling for one game and probably isn't worth it. However the option is there if there are injuries or just Klopp feels like it even.}


 

 

31 Aug 2019 20:40:50
Question, is Ashley Barnes the footballer who actually does the least footballing of all footballers?

He seems to just spend the full 90minutes looking for people to wrestle and somewhere to plant his elbows.

RedDawn

{Ed001's Note - and repeatedly dive. He is quite possibly the worst offender for diving in the Prem, it just goes unnoticed as he does it outside of the box.}


1.) 31 Aug 2019 21:49:49
Yea but with very limited talent he has more pl goals in 2019 than Firmino or Salah. Must be doing something right, give the guy some credit instead of knocking all the time. All footballers are not Messi.


2.) 31 Aug 2019 22:13:21
He’s weird he gives it hard then goes down easily when it’s given back, glad people see it now. He’s got ability I think mind, can hit a good volley.


3.) 01 Sep 2019 00:02:41
Actually think Barnes is a decent player. Better than he often comes across. I suspect either team tactics or direct instruction dictate some of the negative aspects of his game. I don’t really buy into the whole being overly physical is what makes him the player he is. If anything it could be holding him back. Definitely better than wood alongside him.

Cheers.


4.) 01 Sep 2019 00:06:48
He had a nightmare game though. Mauled off Virg all game.


5.) 01 Sep 2019 00:19:21
Speaking of other strikers. Vardy looks like he is rolling back the years. Was top class against Bournemouth today.


6.) 01 Sep 2019 05:14:55
Ed is spot on about the flimsy way he goes down, but Barnes is otherwise a really good player.
He will be far from the last good striker to be COMPLETELY silenced by Van Dijk. I’d imagine another 30 strikers will feel what that is like just this season.
Insane, insane, insane player.


7.) 01 Sep 2019 07:29:11
Totally agree re Vardy, BR setting up the team to play to his strengths. Cracking first goal.

Think Aguero needs a mention too, he was brilliant for City yesterday.


8.) 01 Sep 2019 21:05:06
I totally disagree RE Ashley Barnes. There's a real quality player in there and he'll no doubt outgrow Burnley.

As to how he works physically. No-one ever said that Diego Costa wasn't good on the football side, did they? I think Barnes has a similar mindset to Costa. Obviously mentioning Ashley Barnes and Diego Costa in the same sentence will raise some eyebrows, but both share that grittiness and that's part of why he's the third highest scorer in the premier league this calendar year.

If you put Ashley Barnes in a top side and built the attack around him - like how Chelsea did with Costa, he'd bag a sackload of goals.


9.) 01 Sep 2019 22:19:47
Epic, Barnes is not even in the same solar system as Costa. I mean, are you serious. Who took over for the brilliant Radamel Falcao when he left and took his goals with him? Costa. Whose goals led Athletico Madrid to the La Liga title and CL final in 13/ 14? Costa and ou are comparing him with Ashley Barnes?

Fact of the matter is that Costa is a beast of a footballer with massive striker instincts and IMO, comparing a super star like him to a donkey like Barnes is an insult to Costa's talents and achievements both at Chelsea and Athletico Madrid. IMO, Barnes is at Burnley for a reason. He is at that level, nothing more and nothing less.


 

 

19 May 2019 12:38:46
Hi Eds,

A Manchester based friend of mine swears that now Kompany has moved on, City are focusing on VVD to replace him.

Put my mind at rest and confirm big Virgil won't be going anywhere, this summer at least.

Thanks in advance.

RedDawn

{Ed002's Note - Maybe he will go on strike again to force a move?}


1.) 19 May 2019 13:18:39
He rejected City to sign for us. Total nonsense.


2.) 19 May 2019 13:20:40
hahahahahaha they can only dream.


3.) 19 May 2019 13:24:03
I think that is wishful thinking from your friend.

VVD will not be leaving. The amount of money we would demand City would probably walk away.


4.) 19 May 2019 13:48:58
Our entire team will sign for someone else throughout the summer it happens to us every year, its a wonder we ever manage to field 11 players come August.


5.) 19 May 2019 13:52:08
Completely agree, B4TR. I'm sure at the time one of the Eds stated we had to overpay. I believe there were offers on the table from Manchester City and Chelsea that we're about 10 million less than we had to pay eventually (due to our club's poor behaviour admittedly) . Consider that his valuation will be triple what City and Chelsea were prepared to pay 18 months ago and it's pretty clear Virgil is going nowhere!

Anyway, If Virgil wanted to sign for City he'd have done it back then when they were top of the table and we were scraping by in 4th place, about 20 points behind them. Not now with us in back to back CL finals and only 1 point behind them.


6.) 19 May 2019 14:35:28
OP, your friend is whinding you up, man and I'm not sure how you bought this whind-up rumor, really? There were offers from Chelsea and City when we were in for VVD during the whole tapping up saga. VVD had made it clear that he wanted Liverpool or basta. How City will come looking for VVD this time, beggars belief really. As Ed02 said, maybe he will go on strike again to force a move cos that is the ONLY way City have a prayer of a chance so get him. Did I also mention that City may not even be able to afford him?


7.) 19 May 2019 14:52:11
@Swiftykop

Don’t worry mate, with all the done deals we have enough players for 2 squads 😄👍.


8.) 19 May 2019 14:57:57
Only if they're half as good at tapping up as we are no doubt they can fiddle their books again and he'll sign for free on £50 a week so they comply with ffp.


9.) 19 May 2019 18:32:18
I wouldn’t sell City a “ virus” now.


10.) 19 May 2019 20:12:12
Brilliantly done, Drogie.


11.) 19 May 2019 20:11:55
We could do one of those dodgy city deals and probably own city in exchange for vvd. Help us win the league though.


12.) 19 May 2019 13:18:39
He rejected City to sign for us. Total nonsense.


 

 

 

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Will definitely be signing up to this, definitely worth a few quid a month. The site is very well run by people who deserve a lot more credit (and reward) than they get. Well done to all of you!

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03 Mar 2019 11:22:57
I think it's important we don't place too many expectations on him for this season at least. Coming back from a horrible injury often has many set backs. I would expect him to suffer little niggles and strains a lot as he's trying to get back to full fitness.

Next season I'm sure he will be back to his best.

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This is the Liverpool page? Coutinho plays for Barcelona and Eriksen plays for Spurs?

Unless you mean that Liverpool will be replacing Coutinho? Which makes even less sense as the player left over a year ago and we've been doing fine without him. We don't even play in a way that anyone like Coutinho would fit into?

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15 Jan 2019 14:38:31
Hoever's natural position is not RB, he is a CB.

He has been playing RB above his age group much like Joe Gomez did for a long time.

Also, I don't think he should be thrown in any time soon. He is doing very well progressing where he is. The Wolves game should've been a nice cameo for him for 20 minutes at the end, instead he was thrown into the cauldron in a disjointed team.

I would rather play Fabinho and Milner out of position rather than put a 16yr old into the firing line. What if he makes a mistake that costs us a game, or even worse costs us the title? He might never recovery as the "fans" would destroy him.

I think there's a time and a place for young players to be bedded in. As we reach the business end of the season when we're closer to the league title than we have been in years. that's not the right time.

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Phil Jones is one that I always remember thinking it was awful that he chose United over Liverpool.

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20 Feb 2020 15:22:04
"Not interested in mega deals"

I suggest you have a quick chat with Ed002 about the amounts being talked about for Werner and Diego Carlos (and even Cantwell) before you start suggesting that these wouldn't be "mega deals".

I suspect 2 of them would probably break our current transfer record.

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14 Feb 2020 10:23:28
I think it could actually help move on some of the young players that we don't want to keep, rather than lead to us losing ones we do want to keep.

All clubs now have extensive scouting networks, especially in the age group games. So clubs that might be interested in our young players would have known about them anyway. The difference is that those young players have now been given more exposure, meaning that potentially more clubs will be interested in them as well, the more clubs that are interested the better for selling.

Also, the club has given the young players a chance in some first team games so I believe it will be easier to hold on to the ones we want to keep as they will believe there is more chance of progression to the first team squad.

I see playing the kids and the exposure they've got as a result as a good thing all round.

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There's a joke here somewhere about Lynda Bellingham, Oxo and the Ox. but it's too early.

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31 Jan 2020 02:24:34
If they were that desperate for someone on the left they'd have been better off getting Jeremy Corbyn to play fullback rather than Danny Rose.

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