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20 Oct 2018 20:50:18
Quite obvious our midfield is good but not creative enough we can run and pass sideways all day but we need someone who can pick a pass. klopp is very reliant on the old crop, I want to see fabihno and Keita in that midfield. really hope they can adapt. I am surprised they haven't as they have quality . Would be nice too have Shaq in the team in front of 2 midfielders as he is our most creative spark.

1.) 20 Oct 2018 21:11:10
Shaqiri to fill the Coutinho hole all day. He’s looking like more and note of a bargain every time he plays.

2.) 20 Oct 2018 21:48:56
He is needed for that bit of magic give him protection with 2 midfielders behind and let him pick passes make runs, the usual front 3 could benefit from his vision and craft, I also think Keita should b given a go there too run at people an bring others into play would b good for his confidence too free the shackles an have licence too attack , shame we never got fekir obviously.

3.) 21 Oct 2018 13:07:50
Maybe against the smaller more stubborn teams we need to play shaqiri in stead of third misfielder.

We will click, there were moments in the past 2 and a half season with klopp where we would not click as an attacking team and lost or drew games. I think we were 9th after that second int break last season.

This season the defense is supporting when we aren't scoring 3-4 goals. The goals will come im not worried.



17 Jun 2018 15:44:40
Eds I definitely think we need different options up front, maybe a target man for certain games, is the young lad taiwo awonyi anywhere near up to it as this year he has progressed more with the club he on loan at, from what I can see he looks tall strong quick an potentially a nuisance, what's your opinion on him.

{Ed002's Note - Awoniyi will go on loan again - getting a Work Permit has proven not possible. I suspect the club will look to Anderlecht as the preferred option but other sides such as Brugge and Standard Liege might be interested in a loan.}

1.) 17 Jun 2018 16:25:59
That does make sense Ed. He did quite well in Belgium, would playing for a more higher profile team help get a permit Ed?

{Ed002's Note - Potentially, but one I suspect will be a struggle to keep in the longer term. He will go on the pre-season tour of the United States and then on loan.}

2.) 17 Jun 2018 16:35:20
Ed2 are the work permit committee pissed off with us? The only reason I ask is because of how we got Grujic his by lying and I can only imagine we aren't in their good books because of that?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool abused the system so they were certainly at the time. The whole Grujic situation has been a terrible mess but it will soon be over.}

3.) 17 Jun 2018 17:17:35
How in demand is ..............

{Ed002's Note - This is the page - we are not going to answer questions about random players.}

4.) 17 Jun 2018 17:22:42
Interesting Ed2, thank you!

5.) 17 Jun 2018 17:41:56
Cheers Ed.

6.) 17 Jun 2018 18:10:11
Why can’t Solanke be the target man?

7.) 17 Jun 2018 18:26:49
He is better behind a striker apparently slightly deeper that's where he plays for England youth teams.

8.) 17 Jun 2018 19:44:49
Ed002, will it be even more difficult after Brexit?

{Ed002's Note - Not for people like Awoniyi.}

9.) 17 Jun 2018 21:09:46
Sure, but I’m mean will the permit panel be a bit overwhelmed when the EU players have to apply?




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19 Aug 2019 21:17:04
Ruban neves is on fire.

{Ed047's Note - what a goal!

1.) 19 Aug 2019 21:40:43
I was scared it was going to get ruled out, but fantastic goal.

2.) 19 Aug 2019 21:57:39
And just like that normal order is restored with United being dross :)

{Ed047's Note - they were poor as and what anyone sees in Pogba is beyond me.

3.) 19 Aug 2019 22:30:42
After their 4-0 win over Chelsea they were odds on for the CL, Premier league, FA&League cups, The Ashes, Rugby world cup etc but that was all from their own fan's of course😁.

4.) 19 Aug 2019 22:36:27
He done brilliantly to win pen, great save though an crucial .

5.) 19 Aug 2019 22:44:03
It looked like they were doing their absolute utmost to take wolves' goal away, but then THAT was a stonewall pen? VAR so far has been awful. Not looking forward to our first burn.

6.) 20 Aug 2019 00:13:48
Definite pen.
Regards the goal, ot would have been really cruel to rule it if he were offside a millimetre the other way. Feels a bit anti the love for the game.

7.) 20 Aug 2019 09:04:04
Beef, it doesn't need to be a stonewall pen, once the ref has given it they need reason to not give it. There was contact so VAR couldn't over rule the ref.

Although they got the right decision for the offside there should be a time limit, if it can't be proven in say 30 seconds it's offside, benefit of the doubt goes with the attacking team.



17 Aug 2019 12:13:26
So the season has started and we were expecting the likes of keita an ox too provide creativity in midfield, ox isn't fit an no guarantees he will find form before injury mentally an physically he has a lot of work too do, keita can't find rhythm cos he always injured an now shaqiri not happy cos he ain't playing enough which u can't blame him, I really hope shaq gets a chance centrally he is the most creative player we have we wouldn't want too lose him right now also for cover .

1.) 17 Aug 2019 12:39:17
We've played 1 league game. Jeez. Give them chance.

2.) 17 Aug 2019 12:39:28
We are one league game into the season.

3.) 17 Aug 2019 12:51:07
I am saying it cos I reckon we have let other teams catch up too us and I believe as the season unfolds this will be proven, also man city have strengthened an they were already stronger, just my opinion.

4.) 17 Aug 2019 13:21:28
After one round of games I have seen nothing from anyone else for us to worry about man city is and should be our main concern imo
after 19 games things might look different lol.

5.) 17 Aug 2019 14:54:38
Hailstones, is it too much to ask that you save your "I told you so" gloating or biased judgement (I did not frame it that way, you did) till after at least 5 games of the season? Just asking for a friend.

6.) 17 Aug 2019 17:06:23
Last thing on earth I want too do is gloat, we done well today too dig out a result an I am made up, it's just my opinion though if our aim is too win the league the standard has too be faultless .

7.) 17 Aug 2019 17:08:41
There must be a fair bit of egg on your face after the Ox's performance today mate. He was man of the match for me. Absolutely ran the show in the second half and when our backs were against the wall in the first half he put in a huge shift defensively. We will be fine if that is how he plays in his first League start since April 2018.

8.) 17 Aug 2019 18:15:43
Love having egg on my face, I never said there bad players just hope they can stay fit cos they can be very helpful with being 2 most creative or attacking, we haven't got the squad of city so we need our best players .

{Ed047's Note - have to say I’m amazed about the amount of negative posts on here, I realise it’s all about opinions but unless Liverpool produce a 10/10 performance with all 11 players up for MOTM it’s doom!

You guys have so much to look forward to in my humble opinion.

9.) 17 Aug 2019 19:00:49
I don't mean too be negative, I am just obsessed with growing stronger that's how I would rather put it .

10.) 17 Aug 2019 20:45:29
We all hope you are wrong Hail but now no one knows. I think we are better and will prove it throughout the season. We will win the league and not will be a failure.

Better this year will be
to name just 6.



15 Aug 2019 12:38:02
It would be nice too see shaq get a game at some point, would of been better playing him on left wing and the ox as attacking midfielder last night or vice versa can't help feel shaqiri brings creativity an scoring threat, right now its a lot too ask of ox too just pick up were he left of before injury . I hope shaqiri starts on weekend he needs too b involved cos he has it in is locker too be very useful .

1.) 15 Aug 2019 12:50:56
I feel like anywhere Ox plays, especially if he starts, is going to be a big ask on his knee. I'd like to see Ox coming off the bench but then again, today was an opportunity to try some things.

2.) 15 Aug 2019 13:07:29
Faithinworks - do you work in the Liverpool medical team? Didn’t realise you were such a pro on knee injuries. Personally in these instances I tend to trust Klopp and the trained professional medical staff at the club. If they think that Ox can do a job starting the match then I think he probably can too.

Red Sandman.

3.) 15 Aug 2019 13:11:50
don't think the wing is nowhere near Ox's best spot thought he would have been better in the middle can't remember him having a good game for us out there the odd time he has played there.

4.) 15 Aug 2019 14:05:04
Red Sandman, Faith only gave his opinion so not sure what your post is all about, really? Now as someone who had reconstructive knee surgery (torn patela tendon and broken knee cap) playing NFL-type football, I can tell you that Faiths premise is correct. Ox's knee may be fully heeled BUT it is yet to be means-tested on the field of play, where it matters. Do not also underestimate the psychological effects that an injury like that can have on a player's recovery process. Ox has to learn to trust that need to hold up whenever he pushes on it in any way. It's going to be a process for him BUT he has to play if he wants to get through it.

5.) 15 Aug 2019 14:16:53
I agree, much better in midfield carrying the ball at the defence. Shaqiri would be my pick to rotate the wingers and Origi for Firmino (although he just demonstrated yet again how important he is to our system! )

6.) 15 Aug 2019 14:43:36
Redwolf - my point is that the Liverpool medical staff are not a bunch of clueless idiots. They know this all better than us. If they thought that Ox could handle starting a match then he probably could. I’ve had a pretty tasty knee injury in my day as well and know how long it can take. My point is that Liverpool has hired a team of professionals to look after our players - if they think the Ox is ready and can start a game then he probably can. How can we get Ox to improve and his confidence To grow if we don’t play him?

Red Sandman.

7.) 15 Aug 2019 14:54:23
I don't think the ox was happy to be playing lw. He wants to play cm and is very good at it. He can be dangerous though from the wing. Id like to see shaq gwtting the forward roles. He is cuter around the box

Like to see aoc playing cm more.

8.) 15 Aug 2019 14:58:27
I agree Red Sandman. Trust the medical staff and Klopp etc. They know what they are doing for sure. I'm certain they will have Ox's best interests at heart.

9.) 15 Aug 2019 15:26:48
Red Sandman, your point is more than valid on the merits however, that is not my issue with your comment. You seemed to suggest that just cos Faithinworks or any of us, don't have the qualifications medically or are not privy to the info Klopp and the med. staff have therefore, we are no longer allowed to comment on such topics. That is how it came across. The whole "useless idiots" stuff is something you said. Neither Faith nor myself mentioned any of that. We are allowed to speak on whatever we like and the last time I checked, you don't need to have med. qualifications to comment on a player's injury. That was my challenge to you in my post.

10.) 15 Aug 2019 16:15:00
Redwolf - I think at the heart of this it’s one of the short falls of this amazing website. If I had said what I had said down at the pub we could have had a back a forth and you could have understood the nuance of my comment. The issue with my initial statement is that if read in isolation it appears that I’m having a big go at Faithinworks. No offence or “having a go” from my comment - just me saying in these instances I trust the medical staff. If they say AOC is a go then Red Sandman thinks he is a go.

Red Sandman.

11.) 15 Aug 2019 17:28:59
Fair enuff, Red Sandman. All good, bro. We can talk about SIX anytime, man. Peace and Love.

12.) 15 Aug 2019 17:47:35
Fair do’s lads.

13.) 15 Aug 2019 19:02:49
Bloody hell we haven't even started on lallana yet, God help us when he gets in that jorgihno role, yikes!

14.) 15 Aug 2019 19:38:05
just say you trust the medical team then. why do you got to the next step of questioning my credentials? we're all fans here mate and of all the different types of banter on here the one where posters stoop to the level of 'are you the manager', 'are you the doctorl' etc are the lowest form of debate here. Obviously we're not but we all have experience that us valuable to add. if you said that in a pub ti a random it would most likely come across as a challenge to their integrity. So online I'd avoid. just make your own point bro/ sis without taking a stab at other's credentials.



01 Aug 2019 23:14:05
Does anyone think ryan fraser would be a decent shout In rotation on the wings 14 assists 7 goals last season can play either wing an deeper in midfield versatile an reasonably cheap .

1.) 02 Aug 2019 00:38:36
No, not good enough!

2.) 02 Aug 2019 00:41:57
Great stats for last season but I've never been overly impressed by him. With Brewster, Origi and Shaq locked in as rotation options, anyone we could potentially bring in I compare to Wilson. I'd like a rotation option who's more of a natural winger than Origi and Wilson fits the bill. Therefore anyone who comes in at his expense needs to be better currently, or have more potential.

I like Fraser's energy and pace and you could certainly argue he's currently better than Wilson, But how much by? His end product and technique isn't as good as Wilson's and I don't think he'll up as good a player.

{Ed0333's Note - Wilson has an end product? I’ve yet to see it mate

3.) 02 Aug 2019 06:46:00
I don't think fraser would be relatively cheap either Bournemouth would want mega bucks for him.

4.) 02 Aug 2019 07:20:21
Fraser would be my shout as well. He only as 1yr left on his contract so the nearer it comes to deadline day Bournmouth will get squeaky bum time. They can't afford to let the player go for nowt next year.
If we are looking for someone to come on the last 20 minutes or play cup games giving the one of the top 3 a break, he would be perfect for that. another Scot would be great, liverpools identity as always had Scottish grit running through its vains.

5.) 02 Aug 2019 09:13:12
If your saying fraser has no end product, 14 assists is excellent, with 7 goals which is sound, plus he is Scottish no bedding in and knows the league, if bournemouth wanted wilson we should ask for fraser, as wilson was backup he would need too be replaced .

6.) 02 Aug 2019 08:19:28
Fraser is a big threat. He’s now where near the level of our world class front 3 but neither are any of our current back ups.

7.) 02 Aug 2019 10:16:42
I’d throw Wilson and 20m at them for Fraser. Far superior player.

8.) 02 Aug 2019 13:00:46
That's the thing jk, this guy has done it in the prem and with better players round him could elevate his game .

9.) 02 Aug 2019 13:01:13
Just watching him on YouTube now, pace, power passing ability, awareness, link up play, crossing from wide areas an also comfortable running from deep in wide or central areas, flexibility, makes a lot of sense as an option .



01 Aug 2019 10:39:50
I think it's obvious that world class talent will not want too come and sit on the bench as the defence plus goalie picks itself, the forward line also the same, the midfield is all about graft winning the ball back and countering, we have a well oiled machine that works a certain way, although I would like more creativity in there an guile we have too trust the squad if no players are signed.

1.) 01 Aug 2019 10:57:25
I trust the squad we have, they just won the champions league, do we need backup players? Yes we do but I trust the club. We'll have a strong season no doubts about it but let's all remember, the window isn't over yet. We're so used to signing players early on but things change, we could go and sign 3 players on the last day, you just never know but either way we move on and enjoy what's to come.

Time for us to win the league!

Don't get your handbags out everybody, I'm only joking 🙄🤔. Or am I? 😂.

2.) 01 Aug 2019 11:49:56
I think the narrative around our front 3 has been created such that the world sees them as immovable. When you look at City, even a PL great like Aguero was not seen as a guaranteed starter so it gave hope for back up options like Jesus that he could come in and challenge for the place. With us, it's almost set in stone that when the front 3 are fit, they will start, so unless if somebody has the arrogance to think they can dislodge Salah or Mane or Firmino, they won't even consider it.

I don't think it is necessarily down to Klopp's loyalty. Just that our front 3 were the only decent options for last few seasons so they have become so staunchly associated with our team and play.

3.) 01 Aug 2019 12:25:12
I don't get all this "sit on the bench" stuff? If your a player Who comes in who plays in Salah position, when he scores 3 in training you score 4. Fight for your damn place, take your chance, and you'll play every match.

{Ed001's Note - there is a reason why Salah has been a top scorer in the last couple of seasons, which means that no one is likely to be able to do that. Why is it so difficult to grasp?}

4.) 01 Aug 2019 12:28:32
I don't think you can win with a squad full of "back-up" players. What you need is competition for places.

5.) 01 Aug 2019 12:34:50
Our front 3 are world class and if the question was asked who would you replace them with then the argument could well be nobody. However for me its not a case of replacing them its a case of complimenting them by allowing them to rest or be substituted without our overall performance and threat dropping and adding another top quality forward.

We cannot expect our front 3 to play 60 + games every season from start to finish in the hope they avoid injury and loss of form. Towards the end of last season Origi stepped up to the plate and showed that he potentially has the ability to be that man however he has done it over a 2 month period during a few seasons with us, so whether he can sustain that over a full season still remains to be seen.

People talk about Sane not being happy at City but the lad featured in 31 league games last season and that's trying to get minutes along with Mahrez (27) and Jesus (29) so they all got plenty of games compared to Origi who featured in (12).

For me I don't believe Klopp fully trusts the bench and his forward substitutions are normally late last throw of the dice rather than the 60-70 min mark bringing on fresh legs, resting a forward or changing it up.

With 4 class forwards vying for 3 positions they could technically all start 40 games each and then that's not including substitute appearances so if the right player was bought they wouldn't be coming here to sit on the bench they would be coming here to contribute and assist in helping us win the league.

I think its pretty clear though that a new forward isn't coming and I am perfectly fine with that. Hopefully Origi maintains his end of season form and Brewster steps up and becomes that quality forward i have been speaking about the squad needing to compliment the world class front 3 we already have.

6.) 01 Aug 2019 13:19:41
Saying all that we might have a little gem in Harvey elliot for 16 he looks very assured an positive on the ball also creative, shame he is so young but he has played more premiership minutes than larouci, adam lewis, harry Wilson an I think Heover says a lot about his quality. We could see more of him than we think .

7.) 01 Aug 2019 14:18:33
@Hailstones - how comes Arsenal are apparently looking at Zaha, in addition to Pepe?
That collection of forward players would be as good as anything in the PL.

{Ed001's Note - 'apparently' says it all. I hate this time of year, people believe any old rubbish. Not that it would matter as they don't have a front 3 that are as good as Mane, Salah and Firmino anyway.}

8.) 01 Aug 2019 14:41:57
On that we’re agreed Ed 😀.

9.) 01 Aug 2019 16:31:57
I have too b honest I crave signings, but u have too be realistic at the same time, 3 of our players have been top scorer in prem salah twice and mane, then firmino is the glue that sticks it all together an the whole world knows it, personally I think bruno fernandes or ziyech would b icing on the cake, but in klopp we trust.

10.) 01 Aug 2019 19:34:16
Hailstones, I would like us to sign players too cos that just gets your juices up for the season. However since Klopp has come and transformed a sleeping giant to Giant's of the PL and Kings of Europe onc again, I'm over all that. Klopp has my complete trust and respect. I have tested him on his signings of Ox, Robbo, Shaq and he has shut me up completely with the way these signings have panned out.

If he says there is no one out there that he wants, he will either wait for the right player (something that he has proven with waiting for Fab, VVD and Allison to be available) or sign nobody. Signings? Yeah, I like it BUT with Klopp at the helm, I'm good.

11.) 02 Aug 2019 06:25:44
“You win nothing with kids”.




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30 Jul 2019 22:41:34
The same echo every day that links us with every tom, dick an harry on the planet, like today we are linked with dembele of Barcelona, yesterday kamono .



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15 Jul 2019 13:23:51
As if Barcelona will loan him for 2 years with an option too buy for 88million, honestly its laughable .



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12 Jul 2019 10:52:35
Rather have woodburn.



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10 Jul 2019 10:53:12
Signing a new deal at Bournemouth, put that 1 too bed .



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08 Jul 2019 18:01:42
I am worried, who will be manager?




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19 Aug 2019 22:38:45
They ain't ready they would get picked of in prem, vultures are unforgiving .



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19 Aug 2019 22:36:27
He done brilliantly to win pen, great save though an crucial .



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19 Aug 2019 08:30:00
I think I seen ed saying its cos shaq wasn't working hard enough in games, but picked it up at end of season, I thought early on last season he was good but tailed off, still think he has got something too offer though especially this season when we need a squad .



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18 Aug 2019 20:47:22
We all know if ox can stay fit we have a real player on our hands, the injury he suffered was extremely serious an as much as I love him he has struggled with injuries throughout his career . I hope he gets the luck he deserves too play regular an show his quality with us.



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18 Aug 2019 18:40:09
Definitely we need too b smart with keeping fresh, arsenal will be dangerous in midfield an up front with Cabellos an pepe coming in, there defence still has question Marks over, any news on keita he has surprised me how fragile he is, also shaqiri must be pissed off not getting a sniff, heard rumours he has been considering his options.