11 Oct 2026 22:17:22
Let's be all entirely honest.
Every single one of us would swap wirtz with Bellingham. So you can't entirely protect a player that we know could be upgraded.
Reasons may vary. Judes a very good player at real at best. His club form is different from his England form.
However, you're at least getting a no 10 in bellingham who also can actually play like a third midfielder due to his athleticism, pace and physicality.
Then you're adding in some goals and assists. We're getting nothing out of this lad for what should be expected. He's on over 300k a week .
I think wirtz and Liverpool may have been a bad match up. The lad may proper at bayern next season.
11 Oct 2026 22:29:51
I just think the recruitment in general over last couple of years has been awful. The sh*t fullbacks, the injury prone forward who doesn't work, the failure to sign a DM. The failure to replace Salah's goals. The failure to recruit an elite manager. We will end up where we end up this season. Right now, it looks like some of the teams that are above us, might just stay above us this season.
I completely agree with you regarding Wirtz. He is not suited to the league nor the team. I think it's time for him to move on. He has not made any impact over the last season and a half, and hasn't improved either. I'd say he probably wants to go as well. Doesn't look happy.
{Ed666's Note - Richard Hughes is arguably the worst sporting director in football history. Im incredulous at his legacy.
11 Oct 2026 23:17:37
Why are we talking about Jude Bellingham?
12 Oct 2026 00:49:04
Wirtz is sat on 200kpw so no idea where the 300k comes from. If you watched him for Bayer or Germany you will see he has two midfielders behind who do all the work allowing him todo is thing. At Bayer he was a left 10 drifting in the pockets or to the left and with Germany he plays similar.
Last season when we played fast football in a couple of games he was brilliant. The thing is as Carragher pointed out he is a luxury player we never needed.
12 Oct 2026 01:38:47
I don't think he is elite
There are so many better players out there that produce consistently better displays than this lad.
A terrible buy for the club, let's hope Bayern want him next summer.
{Ed666's Note - I’m not sure his family will want him if he keeps playing like this let alone Bayern Munich.
12 Oct 2026 06:27:49
It could of ended up so different as we were initially after cherki and city Wirtz.
12 Oct 2026 07:05:58
Anyone got confidence that Julian Ward will fix this? Because I'm seriously doubting it. Our recruitment strategy and i'd talent has looked woeful. I'm expecting some more dud signings in the future but perhaps at a lower cost than what Hughes was getting.
12 Oct 2026 07:30:32
Edwards was making almost all of the big transfer decisions, Hughes was his negotiator.
Hughes chose a couple of players at best, and even Frimpong was bought just to ease the Wirtz deal along.
12 Oct 2026 09:06:47
Bellinghams name even been mentioned is a waste of time. We have a top manager. Cant be called elite because he hasn't won anything yet but he is a top top manager. We will get Chamions League football which will be his remit. Anything more than that would be a massive bonus.
We lost at home with half a team to for me the best team in the league this season. Dont see the need for panic. Oeople just need to manage their expectations which is why I said all summer I would take 5th.
12 Oct 2026 09:32:51
I'd swap Wirtz for Cherki, odegard, palmer, fernandes. Basically any other 10 for any of the top teams. Seen enough now to know he hasn't got the mentality to succeed - his confidence is shot but he is scared of taking any ownership of a game. Not knee jerk but should be sold to Bayern in next window if they will have him.
12 Oct 2026 11:01:59
Odegaard, Palmer and Fernandez is not even close to Wirtz, but the most on here knows as much on tactics as Carra and Neville, thank God Iraola doesn't listen to you guys.
Tha team needs backing right now not bashing.
Come Christmas we will be a lot better, and you will all feel a lot better if you also supported the team during the learning period. I bet some you bashers will have too eat some humble pie later in the year.
{Ed025's Note - which Christmas do you think that will be JC?..
12 Oct 2026 12:18:21
Red-JC, And yet every single one of those players have all got far better stats in the Prem than Wirtz, so how does that work?
As a Liverpool fan I hate complimenting them, but Fernandes is leagues above Wirtz, he's arguably the best goal-scoring midfielder the Prem has seen in the last decade. Nobody puts up the numbers he does, he's in Lampard territory, an absolute cretin of a human but an excellent footballer, Wirtz couldn't lace his boots at the moment.
The likes of Palmer and Odegard might not have the same finesse or natural ability as Wirtz but what they do have, they can actually apply, something Wirtz isn't doing at the moment, he doesn't look like he could do it in a 5-a-side right now never mind the Prem.
Now I'm not a Wirtz basher at all, but it's time for him to step up, he needs to start performing, he looks like a lamb in a lions den out there.
12 Oct 2026 12:32:11
Stats is for TV og commentators, you cannot build an opinion on that solely. Fernandez gave so many balls away at Chelsea, scoring a goal once a wile doesn't make up for that. I did not say he was a bad player, but take Anderson out, who covers for him constantly and he would be a fart.
We doesn't have a player like that at the moment, so Wirtz will sometimes look like juggling with danger.
He is allowed to take chances or else it would just be Slot all over again.
And stats will never show how good he is at tuning into free areas and doesn't get the pass. Stats is only for goals and chances created. How many chances did Fernandez create yesterday?
12 Oct 2026 14:20:33
Ed Damien Conmoli would prefer if you don't hand out his awards to anyone else. He earned that worst sporting director award fair and square.
{Ed666's Note - ha ha… commoli signed suarez and Henderson..arguably two of the greatest Liverpool players ever. Nope Hughes still has the accolade for me.
12 Oct 2026 15:01:35
We're actually back to a Bridge level. We've gone so far backwards.
Wirtz is the biggest disappointment since Star Wars and our squad is as harmonious as central London. Every decision maker above Andoni needs to be shown the door.