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23 May 2024 11:26:31
Ed - any world in which we would be in for Bruno G from Newcastle? Seems to have a release clause and would be perfect for us in the DM role imo. Would happily spend £100 million on him if we still have the budget from last year.

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{Ed002's Note - No but there is interest from elsewhere. I don’t know of any “budget” from last year.}


 

 

 

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27 Jan 2024 07:36:49
Speaking with a mate yesterday who obvs highlighted the obvious in that we only won 1 league under Klopp and Guardiola is a better manager.

Question on here - who would turn back the clock and take a Guardiola for example and another 1/ 2 league titles over Klopp? I certainly wouldn’t trade him for even a bit more success.

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1.) 27 Jan 2024 07:52:49
better manager?
better resourced manager would be accurate.

the fact that Klopp won 1 and came super close twice tells u how good he is. without him, City would have walked the league the last 7 years. think of any other team that really challenged them and go toe to toe without a much more modest budget in comparison. there was none.

Yes we did spend big but its not a year on year practice like City. They literally bought GK after GK, LB after LB, each one more expensive than before and could buy players to form 2 teams that would compete in the PL like money wasnt a concern. We had excellent first teamers, good squad players and this season, a bunch of very exciting youngsters.

And apart from what happens on the pitch and at end of the season, Klopp connected with the fans and the city, and whilst football is a results game, the many other parts surrounding it makes it whole. I don't see that in Pep.


2.) 27 Jan 2024 08:01:40
Nah. Am sure we would have done well with Pep too but Klopp just fits the club and city.

The titles argument will always be there but Klopp couldn’t have done anything more to win more than 1.


3.) 27 Jan 2024 08:27:23
I prefer Klopp as a manager for us, but let's not go down this route of Pep buying success. City have had plenty of managers who couldn't sustain success even with the Arab resources. Pep is clearly one of the greatest managers in the history of the game and to think otherwise is lunacy. If he wanted to come to LFC at the end of the year we would bite his hand off.


4.) 27 Jan 2024 09:44:27
That is true Westwood. Previous City managers all had the same resources as he did and none came close to won what he has. But you can't discount that Pep had infinite resources as well. Could he have done the same with City without them? I would think not. So, while he is clearly the best manager City has had in the PL era, I would stop short of calling him the best manager in general.


5.) 27 Jan 2024 09:55:40
Brummy, allow me to dispell something a lot of people say. Yes, Klopp won only 1 title in his 8 seasons so far compared to Klopp. However if you deep it, people forget that it took him 3/ 4 years to build the team until it was ready to challenge and eventually win the title based on the mess Brodgers left him. Pep took over the deppest and most quality squad in the title and still spent 200m in his first season, something Klopp could not do for obv. reasons.

So essentially, Klopp won one title in in 4 years since 2018, challenged Pep in 3 of those 4 years and won once in 4 legitimate tries so 25% conversion rate. Not bad, right considering the opposition? As for going back to see if we could have taken Pep or Klopp, sorry Klopp all day everyday and I wanted him over Ancelloti at the time already. Pep? Great coach who needs everything set up perfectly in order to perform. I'll pass.


6.) 27 Jan 2024 12:01:58
No one denies Pep is a world class coach, but he’s not as good as Klopp, and he knows it himself. Klopp WOULD have achieved everything Pep has had he competed with similar funds, but Pep wouldn’t done the reverse.


7.) 27 Jan 2024 12:58:43
LoweLFC, Pep could not even achieve the dizzy heights Jose got to with that Porto team. The guy won A Treble (League, Cup, EL) in 02/ 03 and then THE Treble in 03/ 04 with majority of players very little people had ever heard of. Pep couldn't have even won the COnference League for Roma the way Jose did 2 years ago.

Pep's a great coach BUT like I said, if you can only succeed when everything is in the perfect situation for you then, how great are you really compared to those like Klopp and Jose who did bits at clubs where things are very much imperfect?


8.) 27 Jan 2024 15:57:11
To the OP, Guardiola couldn’t function under the restrictions Klopp has. Look at the starting 11’s when they started and their transfer budgets.


9.) 27 Jan 2024 15:58:55
Klopp could double his tally by May. Just saying.


 

 

 

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28 Aug 2024 13:52:47
Chiesa for 15 mill is a bargain when compared to Gordon for 70. Only issue is chiesa looked poor playing on the right for Italy. Maybe we move Diaz to the right if he stays as a salah replacement next year. Chiesa can play 9 or 10 as well and is a better player than gakpo and Nunez imo.

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28 Aug 2024 13:45:24
What a signing if we get him. No idea why we need another LW but I will take him all day long. Would keep Diaz and offload gakpo if we have to sell a forward to accommodate.

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18 Aug 2024 01:08:41
Tbf I don’t think Nunez is going to make jt with us. Unfortunately he needs slot to believe in him and make him our first choice number 9 to have a chance but unfortunately Jota is better.

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18 Aug 2024 01:07:36
Forget Gordon, keep Diaz and do a part ex for Bruno. If we want a ball playing DM I don’t see anyone better and I’m sure he’d love to play for us given how much he feeds off the fans. Absolute no brainer for me - don’t see how the club don’t see it tbh. Very baffling especially when we clearly were ready to spend 100 mill on a dm last summer so he is definitely not out of reach and easily improves our team.

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16 Aug 2024 16:34:44
Rather sell Gakpo than Diaz tbh.

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31 Aug 2024 04:59:40
It’s a real shame with neither city or arsenal really strengthening. A proper defensive minded CM and we could have won the league this year with all the attacking options we have.

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28 Aug 2024 14:49:43
Always loved Chiesa. Injury set him back but still italys best player imo. Pace, power and good finisher. For the figures quoted this is a bargain and he is a much better player than Gordon.

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18 Aug 2024 07:51:08
He had a release clause earlier in the summer I’m sure.

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18 Aug 2024 01:13:30
Credit where it’s due I thought Grav played the best I’ve seen him. Only Ipswich and needs to be consistent but looked really good today.

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18 Aug 2024 01:11:09
Only part I disagree with is the final balls being awful down to first game of the season. We have been like that for years now with Salah, Diaz, Nunez unable to pass 5 yards but all in all thought second half we played well but need to be much more clinical given how it cost us last season.

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