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13 Apr 2024 14:09:55
Don't count your chickens. There's a very good chance amorim could stay at sporting.

He has more to lose than gain by coming to Liverpool, right now it's a tough sell to people on the up. That's not me saying that, it's a few agents I met at an event I was at recently. One agent suggested it would be better for Liverpool to look for someone trying to rebuild their reputation instead as it's an opportunity for them rather than a risk.

Nevada

1.) 13 Apr 2024 14:55:49
Really.


2.) 13 Apr 2024 15:26:11
I can see the point of view of the agents.
The next man in has a big job on his hands.
There is a bit of a rebuilding process to do and not a lot of money to do it with.
The knives will be out early on you can be sure of that.
Plus they have to work in a system with Edwards and Hughes so some loss of autonomy.

It’s a tough job, needs someone with some backbone.

Who knows, maybe it will be Potter?


3.) 13 Apr 2024 15:53:43
He looks nailed on to me.
Although I said the same about Alonso. Lol
But only he knows what’s going on his own head.
Liverpool will always be a tempting prospect for any manager who wants to prove himself though. Especially when the squad is quite young and in good shape, not much of a rebuilding job like usual, more tweaks.


4.) 13 Apr 2024 15:56:52
Wouldn't trust a football agent in the wild as far as I can throw him/ her.

Liverpool is an attractive job for any ambitious manager/ coach. We have record breaking revenues, good youngsters, excellent training facilities and are proactively strengthening the football structure again under someone who has a track record of success with us. Klopp is not leaving a mess behind him. And most importantly, Liverpool fans are always patient, supportive and hopeful as long as you take some time to understand the culture and avoid the Hodgson and Rogers-style "charm".

If an incoming coach is frightened of Klopp's legacy even after us not having won one of the big prizes (CL or PL) in 5 years, then they are not the right guy for Liverpool.


5.) 13 Apr 2024 16:03:46
If any, would be, manager is scared, we are better off without them. A young (ish) team, with a few tactical tweaks and sales/ purchases and they'll have an almost perfect team. I don't buy this "tough act to follow" or "tough sell" malarkey. Any decent young manager, with anything about themselves, would jump at the chance.


6.) 13 Apr 2024 16:41:11
A manager looking to rebuild their reputation should be avoided at all costs. Look at the current crop out there who meet that criteria of being sacked and having a poor reputation in need of rebuilding (or in Tuchel’s case on the verge of getting sacked and having an appalling reputation, again), Mourinho, Tuchel, Nagelsmann, Flick, Potter, Conte, Low, Lopetegui and that’s without mentioning the dregs like Gerrard, Lampard, Solsjkear et al.

Not exactly an inspiring list and not one of them is remotely good enough or competent enough for the job for multiple reasons. If we end up with one of that lot then we’d be just as well to write the next 18 months off or more. There are certain managers who don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt or patience.


7.) 13 Apr 2024 21:07:08
I don’t feel it’s a case of being scared, more of a case of timing.
Next man in is going to be compared to Klopp, who won everything except the Europa League (you still never know) .

For some managers on the rise, it’s not the right time. For the likes of Potter it’s a great chance, for Alonso and Amorim there is a lot of risk compared to waiting in the wings.


8.) 13 Apr 2024 21:11:13
Only Amorim knows what’s going on in his head. For me, and going by ITK’s, both him and Alonso are the standout candidates. Well, were because Alonso removed himself from the running - that Amorim is set to become our new manager. As for the attractiveness of our club. That would be totally subjective. What you’re saying might be true in some cases. But then on the other hand, a number of managers would relish the fact a summer clear out is looking likely. Simply because we have a number of talented players they could work around. And funds raised from sells along with a set transfer budget would ensure they get the players they want in order to execute their vision. Now, I could be totally wrong here but I see a bigger clear out then some might be expecting.

Salah turns 32 in a few months. Is still a good player but is naturally on the decline. Plus, this is the last time we could get a good transfer fee for him. In my opinion he is off to Saudi Arabia, and if we can fetch between £100 million - £150 million we have to take sentiments out of it and sell. At the end of the day all good things must come to an end. As for Diaz, his father is doing a press tour about Diaz playing for a Spanish club or a top European club for that matter, which I find strange. I’m at the stage where if a player wants to go just go, no matter who they are. If we can fetch £70 million or thereabouts then sell. So Diaz is another one I see gone this summer. One that might be going under the radar is VVD, who might want to leave this summer. It would be his last chance of a big pay day and I’m sure his agent could drum up interest from one of the top European sides to facilitate that. Plus he turns 33 in July so Edwards and Hughes will most likely sell instead of extending his contract and paying him £200k plus a week, which makes sense.

I see Kostas sold, and his ability and performances means I don’t need to elaborate on the reasons why. Kelleher might ask to leave for the sake of his career. And yes he’s played a lot of games this season but that was down to Allison having a lot of injuries which has never happened since his move from Roma. Not much needs to be said about Thiago, Adrian or Matip as their contracts expire this summer. Tyler Morton and Carvalho could be given a chance but equally they might come back after tasting first team football and ask to leave if interest from other clubs is there. Or it might not be their decisions if Edwards and Hughes feel they could get good money for both. Another thing is we keep getting linked to DM’s, which could be media rubbish. But if it is Amorim coming in and if the media noise is true then he might bring one with him. Personally I would be happy with Endo and Bajcetic but if a DM is brought in we might cash in on Endo, which will not go down well with a large number of the fanbase, although I trust them those in charge in whatever they decide to do. Edwards and Hughes might be thinking we could make some profit on him when you factor in age (31) and low fee paid to bring him in. Then lastly there is Konate. He has all the attributes to be a good defender but whenever you think he is kicking on his lapse in concentration rears it’s ugly head. Not to mention the fact you can’t rely on him as a first choice CB due to his consistent injuries. If PSG who he has spoken about decide to come in for him this summer I see him gone.

All speculation of course. But whatever happens in the summer, I’m actually very positive. Safe to say exciting times ahead with Edwards, Hughes and hopefully Amorim.


9.) 13 Apr 2024 21:22:08
FPF, record breaking revenues? Don’t Utd& City both have higher revenues in the PL alone? Pretty sure Barcelona and Real have higher too so not sure what records are being broken.


10.) 13 Apr 2024 21:33:47
In just the same vein Amorim, or any other manager on the up as you say might have a rubbish season next year, stick falls and he is never mentioned for the top jobs ever again.

Contrary to what many are saying, the fact that following Klopp will inevitably be difficult kind of gives successors and bit of a free pass. Amorim and Alonso could come here and fail and it would be out down to Klopp hangover rather than any issue on their part.

Whereas if they stay at lower clubs now they might completely screw it up next year and never get mentioned for the top clubs again. No, when the top clubs come calling you go for it. I reckon the only reason Alonso isn't is that he is waiting for Madrid but he might not get it if he gets Leverkusen relegated next year. ?.


11.) 13 Apr 2024 23:24:09
Fuser, you can break your own revenue records too.

As for City’s revenue - less said the better.


12.) 13 Apr 2024 23:28:32
Ron - sounds like another way of describing being scared :)

By the same token, these managers that are hoping to rebuild their reputations would have pretty poor judgement to take a job whereby the fanbase is split on their ability and reputation.


13.) 13 Apr 2024 18:22:29
Load of nonsense, any manager who is worth their salt will want this job. If Amorim would rather stay at sporting then he’s not a manager worth his salt, so isn’t worth the LFC job.


14.) 14 Apr 2024 01:12:04
Maybe he might be happy and settled where he and his family are.


15.) 14 Apr 2024 03:48:36
Good post, alonso1786, and ill add that the exit of some/ all of those players might provide a tempting war chest for the next manager. Salah and Diaz could possibly add as much as 200m between them which, if reinvested, would be a carrot on a stick for most managers.


16.) 14 Apr 2024 08:55:10
@Andyjh83 - so Alonso “is not worth his salt”?

Unusual take but you do you.


17.) 14 Apr 2024 09:45:58
Konate is world class, in my opinion, people forget how young he is, and that he's already played a great world cup campaign. Injuries are an issue, and yes he loves his home town club, but why on earth would anyone want to sell such a great player?

VVD-Real would likely wait until he's out of contract and it will be interesting in general, to see how Edwards manages the potential clear out that are you talking about Alonso.

Endo has been a revelation, why on earth would anyone want to sell him? He has given his heart and soul in most games. He is a legend in the making.


18.) 14 Apr 2024 19:25:32
I have a feeling we won’t get him, as people have said he has more to lose coming to us than staying in Portugal. Knowing FSG they’ll go for Gary O’Neil or Graham Potter.


19.) 14 Apr 2024 23:38:54
More to lose coming to us than staying in Portugal? ah here, either these people want to be footballing legends or they dont. Who turns down liverpool to stay in Portugal?


20.) 15 Apr 2024 07:25:53
I just keep thinking back to our former player - Alonso - turning us down to stay at Leverkussen.

Once that happened then anything is possible and nothing is certain.

There’s a reason Xabi turned us down. For CL with Leverkussen is what some people say. So he prefers that to CL with Liverpoool?
Building a team in Leverkussen - he’s only been there 1 full season.

There’s another reason we’re not being told.


21.) 15 Apr 2024 10:03:18
How about he just doesn’t want to manage Liverpool next season @Ron?


22.) 15 Apr 2024 13:19:41
Alonso just won Leverkusen's 1st ever league title at the first time of asking and has not lost a game all season - AND it's his first full season managing a senior team. There is absolutely no way you can compare that to someone like Amorim, who is in his 2nd senior management role, has previously won the league with his team, and could bow out with a league and cup double.

Alonso made the right decision for him at the time, and I completely understand why. He also came out and said "I'm staying", whereas Amorim has said "I don't want to discuss it right now".


 

 

01 Jan 2024 14:02:08
Are Liverpool interested in Michael olise?

Thanks ed.

Nevada

{Ed002's Note - Michael Olise (RW/AM) PSG and Manchester City want him as cover although the departure of Mahrez will mean more opportunities now, the position is effectively Foden's. If de Bruyne or Silva were to depart, he becomes an option again. Crystal Palace has no real interest in selling but know that Chelsea want to take Olise back to Stamford Bridge and Olise has made clear that one day he wants to be playing with his brother. Down the list of AM players Chelsea want but they will perhaps push for him. His representative has said no other clubs have made an approach for Olise - but maybe Klopp's obsession with Chelsea Academy players will continue.}


1.) 01 Jan 2024 23:13:12
If Chelsea don’t know what to do with them then why not? ??‍♂️.


 

 

21 Dec 2023 02:54:26
Hi ed,

Nacional are reporting klopp has been chatting to laporta to replace xavi in the summer. Any truth to that?

Thanks.

Nevada

{Ed002's Note - Xavi Hernandez (C) It would be a surprise if he will see the season out. Laporta has previously approached Jurgen Klopp through Marc Kosicke and would likely enquire again but it does not seem likely anything will happen. I would discount Pep Guardiola as well. Girona's Michel Sanchez would be another who Barcelona could look to. Deco has a preferred option in Roberto De Zerbi that he has shared with Yuste and Laporte.}


1.) 21 Dec 2023 13:03:42
Have you had a chance to watch Leverkusen this season at all Ed? And if so do you rate Alonso as a coach?

Haven’t watched them at all but certainly seems to be doing well.

{Ed002's Note - Alonso is doing really well this season and he is on the list of options for Real Madrid.}


2.) 21 Dec 2023 13:21:34
Alonso is the man I want to succeed Klopp. He plays exciting football, his team scores a lot of goals. And importantly, his team racks up 3 points after 3 points, week in week out. They quite possibly could break up the two team or should I say one team stronghold and win the league.


3.) 21 Dec 2023 20:53:28
I don't see anything but Klopp extending with us. He's not going to leave this developing team without seeing us realize our potential. Jmo.


4.) 21 Dec 2023 21:16:06
I remember Klopp being asked if he would like to manage in Spain and he said no as he does not speak Spanish.
I think Liverpool will be the last club side Klopp manages I think he has stated he would like the German national job one day.
I think that will be his next job after us then he will be able to take a bit of a step back from everyday work.


5.) 24 Dec 2023 12:10:16
I would still be wary about Alono. As much as I hope he will do well I don’t understand why he’s already a favourite to succeed Klopp after half a season if success. Give people a chance to prove themselves over a few seasons.

{Ed001's Note - it is more than half a season. He performed a minor miracle last season with them too. Before that he did really well with the B team at Sociedad and prior to that he was impressing with Madrid's youth teams. That used to be enough to get a top job like ours. I mean it is more than Paisley did or Fagan. He is favourite because he has stardust sprinkled about him right now, a bit like Guardiola did or Klopp in his early days. When you look at the options out there, there are very few that stand out, other than him.}


6.) 24 Dec 2023 13:33:08
Great passer, great vision, great guy. Played for Sociedad, Liverpool, Real, Bayern and the best Spanish national team in history. And played under Rafa, Mourinho, Guardiola and Ancelotti. Is there a better football education?

Only thing he missed out on was working with Klopp.


7.) 24 Dec 2023 13:38:26
I fully take your point. But the problem is when such managers don’t deliver (which means winning a major trophy at a club like Liverpool) they are put under immense pressure and are not usually given too much time. I’d say Arteta is an unusual exception even though I don’t see him as a talented manager. Many managers would have done better than him if they had been given that much time. That being said I wish Alonso well and I’ll be right behind him if and when he comes to Liverpool.


8.) 24 Dec 2023 16:49:44
Rather Alonso than Liners. That said I'd prefer Rodgers coming back than Liners. Both similar but at least Rodgers has some pedigree.


9.) 24 Dec 2023 16:50:30
FyI before someone jumps down my throat I absolutely do not want Rodgers to come back and my comparison of him to Linders is intentionally negative.


10.) 26 Dec 2023 06:18:45
I agree Westwood about Rodgers, his ego is his downfall.


11.) 27 Dec 2023 06:45:29
Alonso over Rodgers anyday.


 

 

13 Aug 2023 06:10:34
It was about 1.5 - 2 years ago when I said that a young sandro tonali was taking English lessons and also getting personal mentoring from Roberto Baggio.

Despite people saying he would never leave Italy I was pretty sure he would, though I didn't know to who.

I also said malinkovic-Savic was available but Liverpool would need to outbid another teams contract offer.

I also said coutinho was joining way before anyone else did.

I don't get every piece of info correct because football transfer is a fast changing landscape even when you have first hand knowledge. But I share what I do hear and know.

I heard this morning that there would be no point bidding for valverde as he has no interest in coming to Liverpool.

I also heard that we are heavily scouting a CB in Brasil who will succeed VVD though i couldn't get a name. Maybe the eds know?

Nevada.

Nevada

1.) 13 Aug 2023 07:14:51
Firminos Teeth has got some competition. Keep the vague info coming Nevada.


2.) 13 Aug 2023 07:29:12
That came across more salty than I meant it to be. I was going for light hearted joke. Hope you didn't take offence. Keep the posts coming Nevada and let's see what you got. You could be the real deal and I really hope you are right that a top CB is coming. I'm hoping for Ignacio myself.

Also I love Firminos Teeth. He embraces the rumours site and has a great personality.


3.) 13 Aug 2023 07:38:23
So your only transfer news Nevada is Valverde doesn’t want to come even though we haven’t bid and we want a mystery unnamed CB. It’s amazing you don’t have your own column in the Daily Mirror.


4.) 13 Aug 2023 08:26:00
If mr. x says Liverpool are signing 100s of players every year even he will get 1-2 correct.


5.) 13 Aug 2023 08:40:59
Thanks Nev ?.


6.) 13 Aug 2023 08:56:03
Cheers Nevada ?.


7.) 13 Aug 2023 09:30:16
Well said Davey. Personality good, humour better, Irony best. Go Nev, go FT. Entertain us.


8.) 13 Aug 2023 09:10:04
Virgil Vanaldinho?


9.) 13 Aug 2023 09:12:32
Thanks, Nevada. Ignore the negative responses.


10.) 13 Aug 2023 09:50:27
Guy puts up a rumour and usual suspects slap him down, should change this pages name to Liverpool Absolute Facts Only Page.


11.) 13 Aug 2023 10:59:33
FWIW Murillo at Corinthians looks like a promising LCB.


12.) 13 Aug 2023 11:08:35
You know I gave the information beforehand about previous tips I gave to try and qualify what I was saying. I also then said information is very rarely 100% in transfers until the paperwork is signed.

Those kind of comments are why macca doesn't post anymore and why eds are sometimes reluctant to give details.

The areas in which I get info are serie a (specifically udinese, juventus, Milan and fiorentina) and real Madrid.

I'm a sports psychologist and have worked in italy, USA and currently Philippines. I've worked in soccer, ice hockey and basketball. That's how I get info sometimes and I share it when it's relevant to Liverpool because I'm a fan and I know how thirsty for info fans can be.

You can choose to believe or not believe if you want but I did call a few even eds did - coutinho I called while the eds were saying it was dead in the water.

Side note : despite his rep at Liverpool now coutinho is genuinely quite a nice lad.

I've also got many wrong but I don't post saying we will sign someone unless I think there's a good chance.

Finally I mentioned valverde because some posters asked about him and I happened to know he has no interest in LFC

Hope that clears up things, I'll share whatever I get regardless of the negative responses.

Thanks all and let's **** Chelsea up today

Nevada.


13.) 13 Aug 2023 11:51:19
Nice work Nevada, you post rumours on a rumours site. I do not understand how you can be criticised for that. Most of us appreciate the input but there is always somebody looking to shoot you down.


14.) 13 Aug 2023 11:53:27
Thanks Nevada, most people appreciate it, especially the way you don’t post stuff as ‘facts’ like some dentally-focussed posters do!

I’m sad (but happy to know) about Valverde as he was one I secretly held hope for. Have your sources suggested the same about Tchouameni or does he remain a possibility?


15.) 13 Aug 2023 12:02:34
Keep the info coming Navada, even if you get negative feedback from some “fans”. Positive posts are a breath of fresh air.


16.) 13 Aug 2023 13:27:24
Wait a second Nevada isn't Macca? I was sure it was Macca under an alias.

{Ed001's Note - no.}


17.) 13 Aug 2023 13:34:07
That was a bit intense. Thanks for all the info you pass on, this is an informed rumours site after all.


18.) 13 Aug 2023 15:00:56
I don't know about Tchouameni zed but I will ask. My experience of the Madrid set up and team says no since it's so rare players want to leave even when they're on the fringe. I don't think UK people understand just how much of a draw Madrid really is. I will ask though.

Nevada.


19.) 13 Aug 2023 15:03:17
Oh2bnegativehappydays2 I'm not macca. I don't know who macca really is and I can't confirm how accurate his info was but I can tell you that regardless of how accurate info is until the player signed on the dotted line anything can change. So don't blame macca, me or eds when something doesn't pan out. Its hard to convey just how fluid these things really are.

Nevada.


 

 

29 May 2023 23:02:40
I won't say how or why I know but Sergej Milinković-Savić rumour has some truth to it.

All parties are not opposed to that transfer but Liverpool will have to offer a better contract than another club. He will still be very cheap by comparison to premier League midfielders of his ability level.

He is also a very nice guy too.

Nevada

1.) 30 May 2023 02:40:59
Nice rumour. Thank you Nevada.


2.) 30 May 2023 08:13:14
Personally think he’d be a terrific signing but have my doubts on this one.


3.) 30 May 2023 09:26:43
Isn't he 28 yrs.


4.) 30 May 2023 09:40:13
Ed002 Any truth in these rumours Ed or just more click bait I did see a rumour opposing them with Savić saying he was going to see out his contract and then see from next season.

{Ed002's Note - Sergej Milinkovic-Savic (CM/AM/DM) Will be offered a new contract - if he refuses, which he will, they will only then look to sell. Juventus are very keen as they look to replenish their midfield, but Lazio will seek a huge fee which won't suit Juventus, but realistically his value has halved as he will only have 12 months left on his contract by the summer. Luca Pellegrini or the impressive Nicolo Rovella will be offered in part exchange with perhaps €35M to see if Lazio would be interested. Milan may also look to an agreement but it seems less likely than Juventus but the financial woes in Turin could change that. There was also a discussion with Chelsea but they have other targets. Inter may throw their hat in the ring. Arsenal offer an option but he would likely be an alternative to Declan Rice. West Ham and Newcastle will offer less tempting solutions to the player. Potentially another alternative to Bellingham for Manchester United and Liverpool. Expect Manchester United to declare an interest but Liverpool have other targets.}


5.) 30 May 2023 10:18:01
Hampo, he is but if we get him at his best for 3 years it is well worth it. He's the only midfielder in Europe who is as good as De Bruyne and Odegaard going forward, in my opinion. Rabiot would be cheaper but cheaper for a reason.


6.) 30 May 2023 10:27:27
Is there something that happens if people are 28?


7.) 30 May 2023 10:18:01
Hampo, he is but if we get him at his best for 3 years it is well worth it. He's the only midfielder in Europe who is as good as De Bruyne and Odegaard going forward, in my opinion. Rabiot would be cheaper but cheaper for a reason.


8.) 30 May 2023 10:27:27
Is there something that happens if people are 28?


9.) 30 May 2023 11:37:12
To Hampo and Westwood (on the thread below), we have brought in older players when the deal and the player is right.

Thiago brought in at 28/ 29 for £25m, if we got SMS that would be a similar sort of deal - a great player, in their prime, litte sell on value but also relatively little upfront outlay for a very well regarded player.

If we went for Rabiot, that would smack of a James Milner type deal - experienced pro in their late 20s who has come in on a free.

Both could work, both would be exciting and reasonably good value.


 

 

 

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20 Jun 2024 19:52:10
Expect some questions about Rodrigo again.

Nevada

1.) 20 Jun 2024 21:33:58
Who’s Rodrigo?


2.) 20 Jun 2024 22:08:15
What is Rodrigo’s favourite colour?


3.) 20 Jun 2024 22:13:58
maybe Rodry? but I think he'll me hard to prise away from City
:D.


4.) 20 Jun 2024 22:14:07
Rodrygo Goes of Real Madrid?


5.) 21 Jun 2024 10:25:51
Rodrygo would be a good player to sign because he could play with Salah and also go some way to replacing him when he eventually does leave. Being able the play LW, CF and RW without much drop off in level is a very rare skill. One Rodrygo has.

He probably needs to seriously consider his future at Madrid because Mbappe and Vini Jr are not going to be benched too often. So unless Ancelotti intends to move away from his preferred 4-4-2 diamond system, Rodrygo will find minutes increasingly hard to come by.


6.) 21 Jun 2024 10:49:55
Not sure we can pay what Real will want for him, MKS.


7.) 20 Jun 2024 23:55:02
Rodrygo Goes Nowhere says Real Madrid


8.) 21 Jun 2024 19:20:45
Auto correct changed the word. should have said rodrygo. Despite what Madrid are saying quite a few people I know seem to think he will be leaving Madrid.

Will not be cheap on fee or salary wherever he goes. Couldn't tell you if its Liverpool or not but it doesn't seem likely, not many in Madrid really like the north west UK much, they even complain about London.


9.) 21 Jun 2024 21:44:35
Well, Real have signed Mbappe and Endrick so Rodrygo might feel surplus to requirements. But I'm predicting that Mbappe will be the one feeling that his nose has been pushed out of joint.


 

 

10 May 2024 02:51:16
Can Ed001 answer something for me please? Is Yvie Ryan still the staff psychologist at LFC?

I was on a conference call a few days ago and the topic came up, I mentioned that it was Yvie and someone else in the call said they didn't think so anymore.

I checked online and far as I can see she still is? It's hard to tell with the club these days they're much better at keeping things in house.

Nevada

{Ed001's Note - she works solely with the academy mate. I am not sure there is a staff one with the first team any more. Probably something that needs addressing judging by the way the team collapsed. The club's official site lists all the staff on it. For first team staff there is always Training Ground Guru as well, which also has a lot of other clubs. Also a useful resource for anyone looking to work in sports as a lot of the jobs are advertised on there.}


1.) 10 May 2024 07:57:39
Don't shout at me Ed, but was it really a collapse? I saw numerous goals going missed, simple chances not being taken. Maybe that constitutes a collapse, I like to think of it as an accumulation of bad luck and poor finishing. The XG must be huge the last month, the reality quite the opposite. Klopp seems to have fizzled out a bit, understandably and sadly, but with the odd goal here and there things could have been very, very different. No?

{Ed001's Note - luck is a misnomer, as any great athlete will tell you - the harder you work the luckier you get. And xG is utter bollox. It is completely subjective and utter cack.}


2.) 10 May 2024 08:42:00
Definitely a collapse BurkeyBoy. Got to say it as it is at times. Love Klopp and the players, but you can't go from top of the league with 8 games to go, in the Europa Quarter final with the far better side of the draw, and in an FA cup quarter final against the worst United team for 40 years; and within 6 weeks be out of both knockout competitions and 5-7 points off top of the league.

April was an awful month for us and it's gut wrenching because historically under Klopp we always finished the season strong and would go on a run to keep touch with Man City or drag ourselves to a European final. In fact we've gone to 4 European finals under Klopp because of that late surge of energy we always seemed to find. Makes you wonder if Henderson and Milner as captain and vice-captain made a huge impact in maintaining standards at the business end of the season, even if they were finished as starters at this level.


3.) 10 May 2024 13:21:46
Henderson and Milner made no difference last season MK.


4.) 10 May 2024 13:31:41
VV, you won’t get any argument from me that we lacked midfield quality on the pitch last season, but we were pretty consistent throughout the season. Consistently average, but consistent. Hendo, Milner, Fabinho, Keita and Ox definitely needed replacing. However maybe we should have kept one of Hendo or Milner as a squad player for their value off the pitch, and moved on Thiago instead. If we had somebody in the dressing room not letting concentration drift or standards slip, maybe we wouldn’t have had such a huge wobble. That’s all I meant. Do you think Virgil is a good captain? I’m unconvinced myself.


5.) 10 May 2024 14:16:18
MK if reports are to be believed then it was Hendo who set the ball rolling to leave.

It was getting reported in mainstream that he had agreed the Saudi wages well before the offer came in for him.

Milner had already left and Hendo came out in his interview that no one tried to keep him and was reported he wasn't happy with the possibility of reduced game time.

I'd imagine the thought process prior to the Saudi bid was to keep Hendo in the squad as club captain and maybe not always match day one.


6.) 10 May 2024 14:37:59
Tallies up to be fair JK23. Hindsight is a wonderful thing eh! I personally don't think it helped though losing captain and vice-captain in one go. Virgil doesn't strike me as that great a leader. He's too lackadaisical in his play and relaxed in his demeanour. I think it's infectious when you see your skipper looking like he's in 1st gear.


7.) 10 May 2024 15:11:09
@mk Virgil doesn't strike me as a good captain either.

Good captains either command the dressing room or lead by example, he doesn't seem to do either. I think there is a lack of leadership at the club right now due to the recent player turnover, I can't really think of anyone who'd be suitable for ctain in my opinion.


8.) 10 May 2024 15:18:58
MKS, Both Hendo and Milner had run their races and that was palpable by the end of last season. Klopp himself recognised that hence, he told the story that he told Hendo that he would not get the same game time he had been getting and Hendo wan't having it and that set the ball rolling.

As for Milner, Klopp wanted to keep him still and then it was one of the higher-ups at the club (name was never mentioned) who overruled Klopp and then, Milner was really let go. That was the story shared on here at the time. IMO, it was the best time to let both go as they had done their time.

As for us collapsing or whatever, you can definitely call it that on one hand HOWEVER if we agree that the on-pitch problems that we had all season but never addressed, came back to burn us in these crucial last 6 weeks (which is what happens in footie or even in life), is that really a collapse or just a case of the chickens coming home to roost?


9.) 10 May 2024 15:40:10
Its hard to comment on Virg as a captain and Hendo was our captain through our most recent success.

For me up until the Utd cup game and Atalanta collapse at home there was no question about our leadership on the pitch and i thoight Virg was a true leader in our Caribo Cup final along with Endo.

We have quite a few international team captains in the squad also.

As its been pointed out we were consistently poor last season and looked consistently leaderless throughout the season and that was with Hendo and Milner.

Also looking at it now who wpuld Hendo have been getting game time ahead of this season.

Virg might give off lackadaisical performances but i'm not sure how a captain can lead when not playing which i think would have been Hendo's case.

I honestly belive Hendo could have helped off the pitch but our collapse has come on it.


10.) 10 May 2024 15:08:37
On the topic of luck -

Baggio was once asked what it felt like to be unlucky after a fiorentina game in which he hit both posts and the crossbar. He replied
"Luck? If I hit the posts it's because I didn't aim in the goal. there is no luck in football"

Thanks ed, I tried searching and couldn't come up with anything but I knew she'd worked as team psychologist before in a sports capicity. It's a genuine blind spot since most major teams either have one on staff and present at the training ground daily or an external one who is contracted to the club.

I just watch the team this season in regards to certain players and feel sure a decent psychologist would have ironed out some of those creases. They should perhaps promote yvie as I know she's excellent at her job and is well respected in the industry.

I seem to recall Liverpool working extensively with a psychologist during klopp early years, maybe I'm misremembering.

{Ed001's Note - I think she chose to work with the academy only, but I agree, the first team does seem desperately in need of one.}


11.) 10 May 2024 15:48:46
Klopp has been accused of hanging onto players too long but we wanted to keep Henderson or Milner?
One thing stands out to me about our midfield and the other teams' in the title race: we signed Endo and Arsenal signed Rice whilst City already had Rodri.
No disrespect to Endo but he's not in the same league as Rodri or Rice. If we'd signed a top quality defensive midfielder we'd have been a lot stronger. Instead we bought a stop gap and spent bigger on flashier types like Szoboszlai and Gravenberch.


 

 

01 May 2024 11:53:13
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1.) 01 May 2024 15:20:26
Really interesting read that, Nevada. Psychologically, football is such a hard sport. Because you don’t just let yourself down, or even your team mates, but millions of fans globally. It’s so well followed that it makes international headlines if you miss a sitter in a close game in the Premier League.


2.) 01 May 2024 18:33:20
Totally agree, the amount of times teams turn up and “expect” to win against either out of form teams or teams lower in the league or go ahead by 2 or three goals and “switch off” has always intrigued me.


3.) 01 May 2024 19:36:47
I've been doing this professionally for a few years now since switching from being a radiographer, I'm lucky enough that I've worked in bubdesliga, serie a and b, NHL and with a few track and field athletes.

Sport is littered with highly talented athletes who end up wasting that talent because psychologically they just weren't at the right level

I did get hired by an NFL team for a few months but that was an utter waste of time and I left very quickly. People viewed me like a witch doctor in that sport which is a shame because that is the sport with the worst mental health problems in my opinion. That and tennis.


4.) 02 May 2024 05:11:52
I think if you we’re putting a label on the attribute lacking it would be “composure” for both Nunez and Diaz, who seem to really struggle with the key chances they should score, and “awareness/ vision” for Salah, who though gets into good positions often fails to pick out a team mate on an even better one in favor of a shot. Attributes I would argue Mane was better in than all those mentioned. I know he’d lost his spark a little in the last season with us, but Mane’s skill set just hasn’t been replaced yet. The psychological aspect is fascinating though, I do wonder why it’s still not given the level of brevity it so clearly deserves in professional sport.


5.) 02 May 2024 15:30:14
"The psychologist in me says that the data suggests our strikers struggle with high pressure chances as they score more goals with low quality chances where they are not expected to score. This coincides with the fact that chances in the box are cramped chances that need to be snatched quickly and our strikers just can't do that at the moment. "

Nevada, this is so critical. Nunez esp., struggles with this and that partly is due to him lacking composure and calmness in front of goal and another one, is due to the type of abuse he gets from people who want him to fail at all costs esp. those in the media who give him NO grace at all when things don't come off for him. Then he, just lashes at things in 1 v 1 situations with so much panic in his approach play and touch cos he thinks if he misses, the sky will fall on him. It's tough.

Now can you coach composure? I don' know if you can cos either you got it or you don't. Look at Divock. IMO, the guy has ice in his veins in high pressure moments. Doesn't panic. Just takes the chance with the coolness of a polar bear's toe nails. Why? Cos his his laid back nature. As for Darwin, we may not be able to coach composure like Divock has. However, we can coach him up on how to take chances by recreating phases of play in training for him to recognise in games and then, finish the chances that way. Just a suggestion.


6.) 03 May 2024 00:24:08
If only we had a player that could regularly score 20 goals a season.
We could try to sell him to try and raise some money.
I hope that it wouldn't be another Divock Origi though. When was he ever a good finisher?


 

 

Is Arne Slot A Good Fit For Liverpool?

25 Apr 2024 07:39:03
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24 Apr 2024 12:58:35
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1.) 24 Apr 2024 13:38:16
A good read but somthing yuou could have added on the dressing influence. Can he manage the big egoes at LFC and that's where Ten Hag failed. Ten hag's Ajax played some breathtaking football but he simply couldn't control the UTD dressing room. He couldn't install any discipline and that is my worry for Slot. Do you think Salah, Robbo and VVD would listen to him?
Klopp had the spine to drop both Salah and VVD when needed, Can slot do the same?
As good as the coach you are if you cannot control the big stars you are doomed.


2.) 24 Apr 2024 13:59:19
Do you think failing to control a dressing room is a Dutch thing, Beek? A bald Dutch thing?


3.) 24 Apr 2024 14:14:06
The United dressing rooms full of clowns, I’d imagine our lot, especially the elders to be much more civilised.
VVD will respect Slot (no doubt he still closely follows football in his homeland and will know he’s a good manager and person) and the players respect the captain.


4.) 24 Apr 2024 15:07:44
Go on, I’ll bite …. Where has the “big goes” thing come from?


5.) 24 Apr 2024 15:15:11
I didn't even realise the post got turned into an article.

I intentionally didn't touch the man management side of the game because the truth is he's not been around long enough to manage any big egos, that tends to happen when you manage a 'big club' also my profession is sports psychologist and I have consulted in top level football before so it would be a professional faux Pas to suggest I can ascertain his mental acumen without spending any time with him.

Hope that answers the question.


6.) 24 Apr 2024 16:53:55
TheBeekeeper, Ten Hag can't coach. in fact according to some Utd fans out there, he is the absolute worst manager in the PL cos nobody has any idea what his style is or what his players are trying to do. At least when you watch Luton or Sheff Utd, you can tell what they are trying to do even tho, they aren't good at it.

If you tactic is "boys, we'll go out there and hope for the best" then sorry, I wouldn't let you coach my kid's U-10 basketball team (if Ten Hag was a basketball coach) cos even they don't deserve such levels of incompetence. Dreadful manager and an even bigger fraud.


7.) 24 Apr 2024 17:00:02
"Slot is very similar except his teams tend to have the ball a lot more and only use counter press to help keep the ball as opposed to create opportunities. In Slot's teams, the chances come from wide cut backs more often than not or wide forwards cutting inside. "

Exactly. Per what I have learned, Slot is more of a Guardiola disciple than Klopp is and that comment summed it up. Now that aside, I feel you are very negative and harsh in your assessment of the appointment.

The inuendos of "FSG thinks he is a cheaper option" and all that to me, is a bit iffy cos we really don't know how the selection process happened nor what Slot is really like. So for me, let's keep an open mind and see how things pan out should Slot take the job. Just my take.

Nice read, btw.


8.) 24 Apr 2024 18:47:29
Thanks Oli.

That's just my opinion not based on his salary but his requirements. Both Alonso and amorim would require multiple signings due to their different system of play. Slot can almost start from day one, though I'll argue we will need a right back because I'm 100% certain he'll move trent to a be part of a midfield double pivot with macallister.

I'm skeptical but not negative. I've heard how people talk about the Liverpool job in professional circles and while I wouldn't use the phrase poisoned chalice it is the one which springs to mind, whoever takes it will either be brave or looking for a payday.

In my mind the next guy is almost a sacrificial lamb to remove the stigma of "following klopp" if he does well then even better.

Oddly I actually think the way slot plays will work better in prem than the way klopp plays as slot tactics (I believe) would be more effective against teams that don't want the ball.


9.) 24 Apr 2024 18:50:22
Also Oli, if it isn't obvious from my comments on ten hag, I do not rate ten hag. I felt at the time the United job was too soon for him.

He doesn't seem to learn, against Coventry United were doing fine until the double Coventry change on 60 mins, which was to exploit space being left in front of Maguire and behind wan bissaka and it worked beautifully. Ten hag response was to send on eriksen to cover the area just in front of the box. which absolutely anyone on earth would have known would solve nothing.


10.) 24 Apr 2024 19:27:48
Hi Nevada,

Thanks for that - very comprehensive and good read

You alluded to the fact the Liverpool are not that big of a dry for coaches - in the article and previous posts I read recently

I note your backround in sports psychology in various spots including footy and you have gotten some good calls correct on here
In terms of Liv not being a top top draw - Do you know why that is? Im mean we may be behind the mega clubs such as Barca, Real, Bayern maybe but they are a handful. In term of history and recent success, finances, fans, facilities etc surely we are right up there (top 5-6 clubs europe? ) We all love Liverpool and think we are the no.1 and I appreciate that's not actually the case but we are surely top 5-6 clubs in europe (the world by extension) .
What gives i suppose is my point?


thx.


 

 

 

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22 Jun 2024 20:46:40
Guler won't be leaving Madrid this season, he's been earmarked as the replacement for modric creativity for a while.

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21 Jun 2024 19:09:03
It's worth noting that the problems with his attitude were when he was younger, there's been a marked improvement in the last two seasons.

Maybe his previous 'maverick' persona was because he grew up idolising balotelli.

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19 Jun 2024 13:26:16
See your point mk but Liverpool aren't madrid. We have very limited salary space so we can't really spend it unwisely by giving longer contracts to players with diminishing usefulness. Madrid can afford to that because of the absolutely enormous commercial income they have.

We have to be more careful. Let's not forget that giving extended contracts to hendo, milner and fabinho stopped us from replenishing midfield and it was only after we knew they were going could we seek replacements.

Contract obligations are the single biggest expenditure in football.

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No they haven't. He is a very good player who I think would be suited but trust me when I say as of right now Liverpool have not contacted bologna.

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13 May 2024 15:52:49
Football finances are so massively misunderstood by fans. Everyone thinks it's like household finances.

Clubs almost always spend money they don't have and then aim to gain the money later via a variety of means.

The transfer fee is actually the cheapest part of a transfer, salaries are the most expensive and the part which accountants sweat over the most.

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21 Jun 2024 19:20:45
Auto correct changed the word. should have said rodrygo. Despite what Madrid are saying quite a few people I know seem to think he will be leaving Madrid.

Will not be cheap on fee or salary wherever he goes. Couldn't tell you if its Liverpool or not but it doesn't seem likely, not many in Madrid really like the north west UK much, they even complain about London.

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21 Jun 2024 19:18:33
Personally I think Salah will struggle. It's not just pace that he has lost, his instinct in front of goal was missing for the entire second half of season and he gets pushed off the ball and tackled very easily now.

The smart thing to do with him is give him less running and less pressing to do and move him central. Messi did same thing, as did Ronaldo (though Ronny sits higher up) . He doesn't have the pace or stamina anymore to do the high pressing work out of possession and it's much better if he's just the guy who pokes the ball in the net from 6-12 yards instead since his timing and positioning still seems pretty good.

Just my two cents.

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21 Jun 2024 19:13:59
To the people who say he's not a midfielder, where should you play him? Because everyone seems to think he's a terrible defender. The hybrid role doesn't work either.

Personally I think he can play as a deep lying creative midfielder like what xabi used to do. Xabi too was pretty rubbish at defending, and very slow. So Rafa just told mascherano to defend and let xabi do what he does best - passing. No reason that exact same thing couldn't be done with Trent.

Everyone is just obsessed with "midfield destroyers " that do flying tackles every 8 minutes. Those days are gone, most top clubs don't have a 'hard tackling destroyer' almost everyone uses two or three players who all have high energy, good ball retention and decent at pressing.

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{Ed001's Note - are you for real? Alonso was absolutely brilliant at defending. He didn't need to be fast because, unlike Mascherano, he could read the game and position himself in the right place to deal with the problem. Rafa did no such thing as tell Mash to do that anyway. If you had said Pirlo and Gattuso, then that would be an example of it, but Xabi? That is laughable. He is among the best ever defensive midfielders for a reason, he was exceptional at breaking up play and improved every team he played for defensively.}


 

 

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16 Jun 2024 13:15:28
Genuine question - those who are saying gomes is low choice, not very talented in any position what makes you think he's worth £20m you're describing a sub £5m player not a £20m one.

Baffles me how often fans call players dead wood then expect good fees for them. Either you're wrong about their ability or your wrong about their price, you can't be right that he's awful in all positions AND worth good money.

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16 Jun 2024 13:10:00
For two years Messi missed 15 and 19 games through injury prior to 08/ 09 season.

Fans kept saying he couldn't make it because he was too injury prone and what good is an injury prone player anyway?

Then Messi had four years with no injury completely out of nowhere and nobody made those comments again.

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