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17 Jun 2019 17:13:48
Any truth to the rumours we are negotiating with Barcelona for dembele eds?

It's likely he'll leave Barcelona this summer with coutinho but some journalists are reporting we have been in touch with barca.


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any negotiations.}

1.) 17 Jun 2019 20:40:41
3! Dembele questions in the space of two hours - all answered with the most minimal of fuss.
Just another thank you for all the you do and are (Ed) dies!

2.) 17 Jun 2019 22:11:35
If the stories about his off field behaviour are true- and let's face it, we don't know for sure do we- but if they are, then the club will be aware, and they will surely steer clear of his lad at £90m, however gifted he is.

3.) 18 Jun 2019 08:23:06
I hope not, Barcelona are like any club and made a desperate signing to appease fans that Neymar had gone, the lads not all that at all, hope we don't touch him.

4.) 18 Jun 2019 11:01:12
Hi Eds,

You say there has been no negotiations but is it a player we have an interest in?


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any discussions with Barcelona and again he would be a Salah replacement- or is he a Dembele replacement - who replaced Pepe who replaced Salah.

5.) 18 Jun 2019 12:29:34
Lol ed02. But again he plays on the opposite side to salah, same with sane. Dembele was looked at last year i remember, or there was a lot of talk. Macca predicted we'd sign him.

I think to call the lad "not all that" is way way off the mark. He's a fine footballer and i think he'd be brilliant in the premier league. A club like liverpool and a boss like klopp is just what the lad needs. Too young to write him off. Some are debating whether wilson should get a shot and the two lads are pretty close in age. Only one has played for dortmund and Barcelona the other has played for derby.

If we can sign him we should. I would see him more of a Danny Sturridge replacement than a Salah one. DS came to us as a forward/ winger who scored goals.

{Ed001's Note - the lad is an idiot of Neymar proportions though. Steer clear please.}



05 Apr 2019 10:13:05
Question for ed001 if possible,

I was curious about Keita. He's had a full season to adapt to the UK and seems to have really struggled. On the pitch he's not really shown that he can bring anything new or different to the team, which I assume was the purpose for buying him.

I'm sure that his lack of integration with the other players off the pitch and him not bothering to learn English are at least two key things.

My question is will Liverpool look to sell in the summer or does Klopp still feel he can coax something out of him?



{Ed001's Note - I expect him to stay. He was very close friends with Mane, it was hoped that would make him buck up his ideas. He won't be given for ever to sort his head out though.}

1.) 05 Apr 2019 11:37:32
I was really excited with the news we had finally agreed a deal for naby and was expecting him to have had a better season than he's having so far. I just cannot believe, if as pointed out by ed01 he has a poor attitude why he wouldn't grasp the chance he has with both hands. He has so much potential and so many positive attributes it would be such a waste of talent. Fingers crossed he pulls his finger out, so to speak.

2.) 05 Apr 2019 11:43:59
"Was" ed? Or am I reading too much into that sentence?

{Ed001's Note - no you're not. They are certainly not as close as they had been at RBS. Mane has grown up, Keita has not yet done so.}

3.) 05 Apr 2019 13:15:24
Something doesn't seem right with him, its almost like his not even trying. I really hope he comes good.

4.) 05 Apr 2019 13:52:35
Ed, thanks for the reply.
Makes me a bit sad tbh. For Keita. i know he has his baggage (described by ed002 previous) . Maybe we forget at times these guys might be millionaires but still are young kids in a foreign land.
Doing it with the expectations and then also not being as close with who may have been your guy once you arrive must be tough.
Hopefully things will get better for him and then - for him in the Liverpool team.

{Ed001's Note - it is his own fault, he has not made the efforts needed to get on. He had a year before joining to learn the language, it has now been nearly two years, and yet he has not bothered. For me that should have been written into his contract and should be included in all future contracts that a player has to learn English. You don't want a player being an Antonio Valencia and never bothering, it is not good for team spirit.}

5.) 05 Apr 2019 14:12:18
I read an interview by Mane today on the LFC website that states that Naby is a regular visitor to Mane's house, so they must still be at least civil to each other. From Mane's comments there doesn't appear to be any falling out or anything. But, hey, who knows?

{Ed001's Note - as close mate, I never said they were not friends, just not like they were. They were completely inseparable, best mates who did everything together. Mane now has other friends, they have not fallen out, they are just not as close.}

6.) 05 Apr 2019 19:04:24
Well he's starting tonight. Let's all hope he does the team proud.

7.) 06 Apr 2019 03:27:49
geez, started a fire under the worry worts there ed1. . .
keita will come right. I hope he'll come right, I don't think he's been a pile poo this season. So not a giant leap towards filling his potential with us. Mane is also older. ed1, for different reasons wouldn't you say Keita needs to mature just like Mane to improve his game?

{Ed001's Note - exactly what he needs.}

8.) 06 Apr 2019 10:20:46
Let's hope the goal last night inspires him to have a big end to the season minimum of 7 matches left this season let's go and smash them.

9.) 08 Apr 2019 14:14:52
Thanks for the reply ed. I got super busy so didn't read this until now.

I work as a psychologist in US sports and one of the first requirements of the teams I work with for incoming foreign players is to learn English.

Interestingly I consulted for a German Bundesliga team a couple of years ago and speaking English was also a requirement there too as it's considered a universal language which will benefit players wherever they go.

It really surprises me how often teams don't enforce a rule of players speaking the native language. It's pretty vital for team integration and communication and in my professional opinion I've advised it's not a good idea to simply have a couple of players speaking the same language as an incoming player because it creates cliques and tension.

Thanks again for the reply ed.

{Ed001's Note - this is the first time I have known of a Liverpool player not being required to speak English. Normally it is enforced strictly. I wonder if there is more to it with Keita, it is possible he just struggles with it and so there is not being pressure put on him because of that.}



26 Mar 2019 21:15:13
Federico Chiesa is taking English lessons.

Make of it what you will but the last time I posted this it was about coutinho about 6 months before we signed him.


1.) 27 Mar 2019 00:52:59
Ground , Italian footballer taking English lessons!

2.) 27 Mar 2019 01:20:29
Definitely going to Chelsea then - if he was really committed he’d be learning Scouse!

3.) 27 Mar 2019 10:43:42
Would love to see Chiesa in a Liverpool shirt. He is extremely mature as a player considering he's only 21. Scored a hat trick against Roma this season. Reminds me a lot of Sterling at the same age. It's only a matter of time before he starts scoring 20 goals a season.

4.) 27 Mar 2019 13:34:34
Heard a lot about this fella MK but never watched him play. Other than the sterling similarities do you know much else about him? I know he's very well thought of.

5.) 27 Mar 2019 14:10:08
Istanbul I've only seen him a when I've been watching Roma play Fiorentina. He has a low centre of gravity, protects the ball well at pace, and is pretty handy on either foot. He's predominantly a right footed right winger though. Very composed on the ball and in front of goal. He needs to work on his crossing and his one touch passing from what I've seen but he's such a superb talent. Those deficiencies can hold him back though as if a defender just stands off him he doesn't have the quality to deliver from deeper areas or the one touch passing brain to consistently play around them with a one-two. They rate him massively in Italy though and his potential is there for all to see. Klopp would get the best from him for sure.

{Ed002's Note - As a replacement for Salah then?}

6.) 27 Mar 2019 14:36:58
Question Ed002,

at what stage do the players we sign stop becoming replacements and start becoinmg additions to the squad. If we want a team to compete on all fronts without straining positions shouldn't we be looking to add more quality depth?

Obviously on the right its different with Shaqiri being there unless he was moved more central.

{Ed002's Note - The expectations of many of the fans are completely unrealistic with them thinking numerous £100M players will be added to give the squad depth. Liverpool are not in the position to make such purchases at all. Squad depth comes from having players who are content to come in and play when required and not players who demand playing time. Liverpool need decent cover for certain positions, not the “marquee” signings many of the fans expects the change in stance to try and buy the league cannot go on much longer.}

7.) 27 Mar 2019 16:11:59
C'mon Ed002 don't burst, we are only asking for Dybala, Chiesa, Icardi, Werner, Fekir, Depay, it is all doable. My uncle's mate's mechanic is in the know. Because his mailman's dog groomer once cut the arse hair of the gatekeeper's leopard at Melwood.

8.) 27 Mar 2019 16:17:04
Ed002, I didn't think Chiesa would have been a big Marquee signing, however I've just seen his €70 asking price. *gulp* I miss the days when you could get players like Torres for 24m.

Thanks Eds.

{Ed002's Note - I did not realise they dropped the price so far - a higher price was told to at least two sides who have held discussions with Fiji about him. Another side is looking for discussions as soon as they can - I will be able to find out what they are asked as well.}

9.) 27 Mar 2019 16:40:50
Maybe Ed002. If someone comes in with a huge offer and Salah wants to go, we'd be silly to force him to stay. Chiesa would be an ideal replacement. He's played 96% of Fiorentina's games according to Transfermarkt so I doubt he'd be interested in anything other than being an automatic starter. 12 goals before we're even in April is a good return considering he plays for a mid table team.

{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath about a move to Liverpool. Last week Dybala was @nailed on@.}

10.) 27 Mar 2019 16:49:10
Yeah of course Ed, I've already got Dybala 7 on the back of my replica shirt 😉.

11.) 27 Mar 2019 09:48:19
I don't think he is going to Chelsea they bought Pulisic.
He is a really Good in fm 2019! I bought him for Inter de Milan and Won the Serie A and Italy Cup.

12.) 28 Mar 2019 12:45:36
No reason not to keep tabs on the likes of Chiesa, Werner, Sancho, etc.

Not because we should spend 100m on backups, but because players' agents are talking to other clubs all the time (that's their job), and any sensible club will stay on top of the transfer market in case they need to find a replacement for any player at any time.

And yes, I'm talking specifically about our number 11.

After Torres, Suarez, Coutinho, etc I'm sure none of us are naive about how the football world works.

{Ed002's Note - What are you talking about ‘keep tabs on’ - how would the club do that?

13.) 28 Mar 2019 20:42:11
ed002, ever heard of a clubs scouting system, bit unfair all this sarcasm to genuine posters. blue nose getting a bit snotty?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about - you clearly have little understanding about the entire business which is perhaps why you have registered a new account to bitch and whine like this. Perhaps just an ignorant red nosed glifnard?}

14.) 28 Mar 2019 21:29:42
I think what everyone means is we were close to buying Fekir for a 50-60 million fee. I know Shaqiri has come in since but he could very well be sold next window as well, which would free up a space.

There’s no doubt we need to strengthen we all know that. However I can see a 50 million player arriving next window, it’s just how the windows are now.

To be honest I’m hoping for someone like Brandt, would be ideal for us and would slot into system easily.



30 Sep 2018 00:19:42
Why is Salah so poor at minute? Anyone know? His decision making is terrible right now.


1.) 30 Sep 2018 01:43:59
He's probably not recovered from last season. I don't mean physically, I meant mentally.
The guy has been embroiled in all kinds of rubbish from image rights disputes, to being hounded for being given an "honourary" citizenship of Chechnya. Then you've got to remember that he's expected to score another 40 goals this season.

Mans got a lot on his mind, let him chill and he'll start scoring again.

2.) 30 Sep 2018 02:17:28
Pressure and opposition.

He's getting like 3 seconds to make a decision before someone sweeps in and gets to him.

I'd chuck him up top with the Shaq on the right.

3.) 30 Sep 2018 07:04:26
I thought he played well last night. until the final ball.
He looked fairly sharp at times yesterday and is still getting himself into good positions wanting the ball, I will start to get worried if he goes quiet and the chances dry up.

4.) 30 Sep 2018 07:48:03
Think he needs a stretch on the sidelines to be honest. Similar to what Klopp is doing with Keita and Fabinho- ease him back gently. I do vaguely remember mind he was a bit off the boil at the start of last season because people were criticising his finishing so I think he will come out of it.

5.) 30 Sep 2018 09:22:16
He had a similar start at the beginning of last season.

6.) 30 Sep 2018 09:36:36
Has nobody come to the conclusion that for Salah to overcome this new hurdle that, rather than leaving him on the bench or changing his position, he simply needs to play through it.

Time on the bench will do very little, Salah simply needs to find his rhythmn again, get used to the pressure that opponents are putting on him and figure out ways of overcoming it on the pitch. Once he figures it out I have no doubt Salah will get back to his best.

In all honesty, I think the front 3 all need to play through this so that they can re-find that deadly connection which made us a formidable team last season. Everything feels forced now, or very last minute, there is little of the linking and interchanges that we saw last season that led to goals. Give them time, to assess and figure out new plays on the pitch and we will have the front 3 of last season once again.

This year will be a challenge but, I have to say, our midfield has really stepped up their game. Wijnaldum and Milner, in particular. It is almost like the signings of Fabinho and Keita has pushed them to be better, regalvanised them. Our defence seems to have a better understanding of their responsibilities, although I think our fullbacks need to be very careful that they do not push too far up and leave spaces in behind, ala Chelsea match yesterday.

Alisson, what a breath of fresh air that lad has. Without him, Chelsea would have gone away with three points. He is a very good shot stopper but, even better, he is excellent at ball distribution which is an added weapon in our arsenal.

This season looks promising and I hope, pray to anyone willing to listen, that we finally win a trophy. It has been a very, very long time after all. Once we overcome that hurdle, I think you will see a Liverpool side that plays with freedom, expression and everything Klopp's style of football is truly about.

Stay positive guys, think about where we were 5 years ago and look at us now. The difference is truly astounding.

{Ed001's Note - spot on. It takes games to find form and Salah took nearly half a season to explode last season.}

7.) 30 Sep 2018 09:38:28
He's scored 1 goal less than he had at this time last season.

8.) 30 Sep 2018 11:44:25
Agreed, we we’re all worried about the chances he was missing by this time last year. We need the front three firing, and as soon as salah takes a couple chances he will be fine. I think we need Keita to cement his place first, meaning they can’t double up on salah as easily, as then we will have Firmino mane and Keita to worry about still.

9.) 30 Sep 2018 12:13:33
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I wouldn't describe him as "poor".

The final ball and finish is missing atm, but his link up play is still good, his movement is good, his pace still terrifies defenders, he isn't hiding from the ball. I thought in the first half yesterday he played far better than either Mane or Firmino and was surprised when he was subbed after 65 minutes. He's not playing badly, it's just the finish is missing. That can happen to players for periods, it's not a major disaster.

He will start scoring again.

10.) 30 Sep 2018 12:20:02
Not worried just think whack him up top for a few games get him a couple of goals and then we can rejig things.


11.) 30 Sep 2018 12:25:18
He just needs to score a couple of good goals to get going again, I remember all the posts this time last year saying he was a flop because he didn’t score enough and his final touch was terrible etc.

12.) 30 Sep 2018 12:25:38
for me, salah needs to find more ways to impose himself on the game. He's starting to link up more around the box and create space / angles for himself and others, but too often he fades out of the game when his team mates aren't feeding him the ball. If he just gets himself involved in and around the box he'll continue to open more and more opportunities for himself and his team mates. Then when defenders get touch tight to cut out his link up play, then the space will open up behind. Just rekon he has to keep playing to figure that out. not sure whether a spell on the sidelines would help, cos I think he needs to play his way through this.

13.) 30 Sep 2018 18:16:16
Salah was poor? Really? I just disagree. Being football player, Salah is a nightmare playing against, and he was giving chelsea some serious problems. Currently only problem is his finishing. His movement and dribbling is superb. If he scored atleast one, we would all be praising him. Give the man some rest and get of his back. This will not help, esp with stupid media already writing about 'poor' Salah.

14.) 30 Sep 2018 18:20:21
I think Mo is doing okay and although I might be interpreting this wrong I am convinced he has been affected by the Egyptian FA argument and the fact that one of those persons made a lightly veiled threat against his mother. Khaled Lateif, an EFA board member, warned Mo, that while he no longer resided in Egypt, his mother did.

“I’d like to remind @MoSalah that your mother is still in Egypt. You are abroad and can do as you wish. Those who understand, understand. ”

Lateif appeared to make the remarks shortly after Salah posted two videos on his official Facebook page criticising the EFA for the country’s poor World Cup campaign. Also don't forget, Magdy Abd El Gany, another senior member of Egyptian FA, also launched an attack on Salah on Tuesday, this time calling him a pig (Pigs are an animal considered ritually unclean in Islam and believers are prohibited from consuming them) .

“Here is a picture of me with four players and a pig in white, ” Abdulghani said in a caption accompanying an image of himself, Mo Salah and four other footballers. This is disgraceful to say the least! I find their politicisation of football and their constant flouting of FIFA rules to be worthy of sanctions by FIFA.

15.) 30 Sep 2018 18:44:50
A hat trick against City next Sunday and he'll be back on track 😃.

16.) 30 Sep 2018 19:37:35
He’s a guy that’s gone from 0 to 100 in one season. When we signed him everyone, including our own fans ere underwhelmed and not much was expected of him. He has that season and now everyone wants a piece of him.
The stuff with the EFA hasn’t helped but neither has the amount of awards ceremonies and individual accolades he’s won. He seems to be at a different awards night every week.
Nobody from Egypt has ever been under this much scrutiny so I would imagine it’s a bit of a culture shock to him it’s just not normal for so much to be expected of an Egyptian footballer.
I’m sure once things calm down a bit he’ll be able to get his head back in the game he’s been caught in a bit of a whirlwind over the past few months.

17.) 30 Sep 2018 20:49:06
If I remember correctly last season Salah had a slow-ish start and I remember the city game in particular he had 3 or 4 really good chances and failed to convert them. Obvs we know what happened after that and the score line looked like we got a drubbing from city but in all fairness we was right in that game until the manè red. Salah is only human and he will have a few bad patches but let's get behind him as class will prevail and he will come through this with flying colours.

18.) 30 Sep 2018 21:18:10
As most have pointed out the guys got a lot on his plate, last season would be a hard act to follow he's still getting in the right places working hard doing all the right things he will be scoring again soon just let him plod through it, a couple against City and he will be off and running again,

19.) 01 Oct 2018 06:30:53
nobody is really firing just yet which makes it so exciting. When we click, well omg, this has the feeling of something special happening, how many times in our hayday did we score really late, sometimes in injury time, sometimes we were ordinary but we still got points, just like we have done so far this season. Sturridge missed a sitter, so did Shaq, and now Salah. Just means its getting closer to us giving someone a hiding and kicking on, something that looks so much better from the top of the ladder rather than 8 points off the pace. Come on guys, so far ahead of last season already!

20.) 01 Oct 2018 10:07:23
Salah and the rest of the team getting a lot of grief on here the last few days, some hard to please folk about, it was hardly a terrible performance away from home at one of the best teams in the league. Oh, and we didn't lose for those who seem to think we did.

21.) 01 Oct 2018 14:13:10
I remember when Fowler had a drought and when Evans was asked about it he replied as long as he still getting in the positions and having the chances it will come, Mo is still getting in the positions still getting chances so give it time. You all have to admit expecting another 40+ goal season was a dream of sheer ecstasy.

22.) 01 Oct 2018 15:11:53
I'm sorry I haven't time to read the whole thread atm, only respond to the OP, because I take exception to this question being asked over and over. He has not been 'so poor', he's just lacing a little bit of his sharpness that he had in abundance last season but it will come. He is still frightening the pants off defenders and getting into those Oh-So-Salah type positions. I've said it repeatedly benching him would be the worst thing to do and I'm glad Klopp agrees. On the other hand, it is just really nice to have another option now that we didn't have last season. Plenty of games coming and both he and Shaq will be needed.

PS: I think it's time to give Keita a run of starts.

23.) 01 Oct 2018 17:22:41
Relax! Salah is contributing, remains a threat in behind and has more shots on target than every other player in the league. He could have had a couple on sat but the goals will come.

Too many people listening to media hype instead of looking at things rationally. The front 3 in general haven’t quite clicked yet but WHEN they do someone is getting a pasting!



17 Jun 2018 18:00:08
Hola eds,

Question for Ed001 or macca if they're around. Anyone know anything about Milan wanting to take brewster and moreno on loan?



{Ed001's Note - I don't know if the interest in Brewster is still there, they wanted him if he left us. Moreno is someone they have shown interest in.}

1.) 17 Jun 2018 23:04:47
How good is this lad tipped to be my friend?

Seems a lot of hype!

2.) 17 Jun 2018 23:48:51
A kind of hope we trim the squad a little of players who always seem to be there when there are injuries - much rather give solanke, Woodburn, Brewster the minutes. In recent times Flanagan, Gomez and Trent have all been given chances through injury and did well - I know Flanagan hasn't pushed on, but it's always nice seeing a player come through the academy, and I hope we see some more.

3.) 18 Jun 2018 04:12:46
I would rather have a capable squad player in a key position than gamble on an 18 ear old prospect. He can get minutes when we are 4-0 up against Arsenal. Not when 1-1 against Spurs.

4.) 17 Jun 2018 21:55:50
Thanks Ed heard it from a friend of mine in Milan and it was first I'd heard so was initially skeptical.

Apparently they'll be making a loan offer for the pair just after WC ends. Not sure why then since neither players are involved.

{Ed001's Note - they were showing interest in Moreno last summer as well.}

5.) 18 Jun 2018 08:45:31
Tried the search engine to see if the Grulic thing had been addressed in detail but couldn't find something . Is there any serious interest in the kid that could result in him leaving or is the club looking to rid of such as Marko and Allan who play similar positions and facing similar issues such as work permits and any hope of getting game time?

{Ed002's Note - Markovic is still for sale and it will be a case of setting a revised price that is realistic. His loan last season eventually turned out not too bad but when he arrived at Anderlecht he was out of shape and they were obviously not happy with that. Anderlecht did enquire after buying him but the asking price Liverpool had was prohibitive. Allan has been injured - I am not sure if he has recovered now but he will be let go on loan or permanently as there appears to be no other option. Grujic is wanted by Lazio and there have been some discussions between the clubs but there was no agreement before he left for Russia. The player and his father are apparently keen for the move to go ahead so he can get his career back on track.}

6.) 18 Jun 2018 09:54:51
Thanks for the detailed response, it's a shame how we contributed to the stalling of these kids careers. Best of luck to them where ever they end up. Thanks again for the quick and comprehensive response.

{Ed002's Note - I failed to mention it is Olympiakos interested in LM.}

7.) 18 Jun 2018 12:00:22
Sounds like Brewster is supposed to be the real deal.

8.) 18 jun 2018 12:55:08
when i read about "how we contributed to the stalling of these kids careers" i feel kind of strange, because it sounds like you are giving the club the "harms intentionally those players" tag. you mean, the club spent money, paid salaries and on purpose kept them away from first team action? because i don't feel like markovic wasn't given a chance, he just didn't perform. grujic also played and didn't look like he should be in the first team. allan just couldn't get a wp. etc?
so, all in all, in my opinion, can't blame the club about people not having a successful career, and also, at the same time, blame the club for not buying marquee signings (whatever that is), and then blame the club for taking gambles, and then blame the club for taking a risk with somebody, etc etc etc, list goes on.
truth is, business as usual, don't stare too much. life goes on, both for players and the club. no blame needed on any part. just best of luck to everybody is in order.

{Ed002's Note - You are missing the point that Liverpool never had a plan.}

9.) 18 Jun 2018 13:42:07
I won't argue on what Liverpool did wrong about every single player, but I don't think they intentionally do/ did anybody any harm. The same window they got Grujic, they also got Gomez, who proved himself worthy and is now a valuable member of the first team - more or less same age, good prospects, etc.
Same window when they bought Markovic, they got also Lallana, Origi, Balotelli - of those 3, one turned out pretty awful, one was pretty decent for a while but got injured and one was so-so and went out on loan. So there you have it - four different cases with four different players, all signed in the same window. My point is, it is more or less up to the player to show that he's the real deal. And, I 100% agree that sometimes the club makes buys that are wrong, but looking back it's easy to say "they didn't have a plan and they ruined the boy". Had Markovic done a Salah first season, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Anyway, no need to blame anybody on "failed careers" was my starting point. Of course things can go wrong, as in life in general. And it's easy to say when you look back "hey, that was wrong". Yeah, well, they didn't know that back then. I am sure everybody wanted Grujic to turn out to be a Gerrard, I know I did.

{Ed002's Note - Nobody has ever suggested it was intentional. It was more a case of buying players at the wrong time and having a manager who makes promises which are simply not true.}

10.) 18 Jun 2018 14:37:59
Whz whilst it wasn’t intentional we had no idea what we wanted to do with these players. This was rodgers spending money for the sake of it. 20 mil and when he played Markovic he was played out of position. We then turn off clubs wanting him as we want to recoup our money which is never going to happen. So Markovic has barely played whilst his value has gone down year after year. What’s the point in that?

11.) 19 Jun 2018 01:14:43
I think eds has clarified what was meant to be said, in all honesty the tone was set for the lads the moment we signed them without a plan in place for them to progress. Let's face it with broken promise from management and club that's has not planned a path to at least develop you further the odds are just not in your favor.




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26 Apr 2020 18:43:19
Evening eds.

Question for ed002 if I may.

In the event we sold mane to Madrid would the club use the money to part fund the purchase of mbappe?

Madrid aren't interested in salah anymore, one of their scouts suggested that mane is what makes us tick (an accurate analysis) and so mane is one of the players they're interested in as they see him as a similar and slightly cheaper option than mbappe.


{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are not buying Mbappe.}

1.) 26 Apr 2020 21:17:30
And mane ain’t movin!

2.) 26 Apr 2020 21:40:37
Deffo agree there not needed and doesn’t fit the model of transfers we usually do price wise.



07 Mar 2020 22:08:08
It's laughable to me that people are suggesting replacing Bobby or even that he can be replaced.

Because he makes that role look pedestrian doesn't mean it is.

Anyone claiming he doesn't do enough because he doesn't score as much as salah and mane clearly miss the fact that it's Bobby's off the ball work which usually enables them to score.

I'll go as far as to say that I don't think there is a replacement currently in football for Bobby.

Those talking about werner need to watch him more, they don't play alike. Werner would need a lot of time to adapt to Bobby's role and perform it at Bobby's level. Instead of watching the end of a move watch Bobby during the move. There's a reason other teams want a Bobby style player (bayern actually just want him) there's not many of them around.


1.) 07 Mar 2020 23:12:35
I think Werner would more likely be cover for Mane/ Salah with his pace and finishing, Minamino looks like he will be Firmino’s cover once he settles.

2.) 07 Mar 2020 23:17:50
I don't think we would be signing Werner to play in Bobbys role, he would play in his own way. The point is, to have multiple ways of playing so we can adapt.

3.) 08 Mar 2020 00:22:36
Bobby is a good player but he hasn't done well in the last few games including today . every player is allowed to have a bad spell and every fan is allowed to point it out . most likely Bobby won't be a first teamer next season, but will have to wait and see.

4.) 08 Mar 2020 00:41:37
It's not about replacing Bobby more about having different options when things are not working out and rotation. Our current 1st eleven have played almost 85% of games and i have to admit look a little leggy in the past few games. We also need something different from midfield to take the pressure of scoring off our front 3. Werner and auoar would be ideal.

5.) 08 Mar 2020 08:39:29
It’s more about continual improvement really. Firmino is a great player but his goal scoring contribution could be better. If a player becomes available who can improve that goal contribution then we must consider it as it will help to keep the team ahead of the others. Man United did it for years once they became successful under Fergie - adding one or two new players each season to keep existing players on their toes, it’s a model we should try to emulate.

{Ed001's Note - why would we emulate them when Paisley did it years before? Why not emulate him? Which is what we are doing. Bringing them in, giving them time to assimilate and then introducing them into the team.

As for improvement, it is not that simple and this kind of comment shows a lack of understanding of how one player's role impacts on others. You replace Firmino with a goalscorer and that goalscorer will play higher up the pitch, which is why he will score more goals. Then he will block the spaces that Mane and Salah run into as defenders are not being drawn by Firmino. So the new goalscorer will add more goals but at the expense of Mane and Salah's goals. You will struggle to find anyone who can play Firmino's role better than he does or as well but scoring more. However so many of you seem to think that better players just grow on trees.}

6.) 08 Mar 2020 09:17:15
Ed001 I’m all for keeping Bobby in there. Just a question though. Has anything changed with Bobby’s role or him as a player compared to 17/ 18 season when he played with Mane and Mo. That season he managed to bag 26 league and CL goals. Has he or his role changed or is it a case of we were more gun ho then?

{Ed001's Note - we were more gung ho and other teams were not defending so much against us. Teams fancied their chances then and came out and had a go, leaving gaps for us to attack. That rarely happens now.}

7.) 08 Mar 2020 10:01:57
The space Firmino has to operate in is getting smaller and smaller. We used to play on break and then teams kept a more defensive shape. Now there are two rows of back fours. Not easy for any player. I’m with Ed on this one. For what Liverpool need Bobby is the best player. I did like the way Minamino player in the centre last week. I’m guessing he is being shaped to be a plan B for Firmino?

8.) 08 Mar 2020 11:05:09
I wouldn’t swap Firmino for any player on the planet, there is nobody that comes close to playing as good as him in his position, infact you would struggle to find many players in the world that do play in this position.

9.) 08 Mar 2020 12:40:45
I love Bobby, absolute legend of a player, im sure most Lfc fans would agree. i think the thing that can get 2 fans rarely is that with a player of such quality playing through the middle for such a good team (even allowing for the great work he does which creates chances for others) he really shouldn't be in a position where its March and he hasn't scored at Anfield. Chances like the one missed yesterday really should be buried more often by such a good player.

10.) 08 Mar 2020 12:58:15
There were three players around Bobby as soon as he received the ball in and around the box yesterday.

11.) 08 Mar 2020 16:15:55
Wasn’t it great when nobody outside of Liverpool realized just how good he was.

12.) 08 Mar 2020 18:20:58
I'm not that old Ed001 so the Paisley way of doing things is alien to me, Fergie - like it or not - is the manager that most folk of my generation would probably look at as an example of how to manage a football team in terms of keeping them fresh and successful year after year. And I understand perfectly well what Firmino brings to the team - I commented on what a great player I think he is - but who on our bench is good enough to come on in his position and do the same job if he's having a bad game or if he gets injured. I don't see Origi as the answer nor do I see it being Minamino at this stage as I don't think he looks strong enough (although I appreciate he's new to the league) .

It does feel churlish to complain as we're just 3 wins away from the holy grail, I just want us to stay competitive going forwards as no doubt the other teams will be spending big this summer to close the gap. It could be easy for us to just drop off if we don't keep the squad fresh with top quality players.

{Ed001's Note - it is not about age, you should know the club's history. You should know about Paisley and Shankly and how they built the dynasty.}



07 Mar 2020 10:12:55
I think it shows how far we have come as a team that some of us feel disappointed that we will only win the league this year.

Similarly last year many of us felt the same about only winning the champs league.

I became a fan the season after we last won the league, so I have never seen Liverpool win the league. I don't really care about records I care about seeing the players, manager and fans get the success to match the heart that's been put in recently.

I've never been too bothered about the league Cup, or FA Cup they always felt like distractions to the big one (the league) so I'm not heartbroken at leaving those trophies (though I'd like Klopp to win them at least once) .

Even if we don't win the champs league let's not get doom and gloom. Two finals and one trophy already and to be honest it's nobody's first choice anyway.

Let's try to remember football is an endless journey. What you don't win now, you can win in future but not if you're too busy complaining about what you didn't win before.


1.) 07 Mar 2020 10:26:32
Spot on mate. At the start of the season we entered 6 competitions.

We are realistically going to win 3 of them. And the Carabao Cup knockout to Villa was a joke from a fixture scheduling perspective.

There is so much to be proud of. Get behind the team next week and we could still be fighting for 4/ 6!

2.) 07 Mar 2020 10:48:47
At this point I just want us to start playing well / performing to our best - the rest will take care of itself. We definitly need reinforcements in the summer though and I mean 1st team players. A proper striker and a good quick passer of the ball should do it.

{Ed002's Note - To replace which players?}

3.) 07 Mar 2020 11:02:54
A proper striker?
Are we going to try and sneak 12 players onto the pitch?
If not, who gets dropped and why?
And good quick passing is an absolute minimum must have for a Klopp player, right down to the goalkeeper.

4.) 07 Mar 2020 11:05:26
I don’t agree with your opinion we need to ship players out to get new in. I think if we play over 60 games a season there is room for a striker like Werner to take pressure off the front 3 and cover injuries and apart from fab and Henderson I think we can improve all rest of the midfield by adding someone who can pass the ball / see passes more quickly than what we have.

5.) 07 Mar 2020 11:50:54
I'd definitely bring new players in to challenge and eventually replace our regular first teamers approaching 30. There is no point holding onto the likes of Origi, Lovren, Lallana, Shaq and even Keira who will be bench warmers forever at LfC if they stay. Get in the likes of Werner, Aouar and one of the English CBs to replace the squad players and eventually force their way into the first team.
As a squad, we need to keep evolving and freshening up every season. Or we are just going to end up handing back the torch to Man City to dominate for the foreseeable future.

6.) 07 Mar 2020 12:22:51
If there’s one single fan out there that would be disappointed with “just” the league this year. It’s only a sign of how ridiculous some people are.

{Ed001's Note - you mean just the league, World Club Cup and European SuperCup?}

7.) 07 Mar 2020 13:18:57
We have Keita who will come good no matter what fans say, give the fella a chance like Hendo was given to prove us wrong and he has in spades
Also another midfield blocks jones from progress and what about grujic?

We have too many midfielders without the need for more Striker I do agree with as I think sometimes although a wonderful player the goals output from firminho isn’t up with the other two but what he offers is there other two don’t
So a different option to replace firminho and give him a break would be nice.

8.) 07 Mar 2020 13:37:16
Controversial maybe but all teams need to evolve and firmino is the one to go former, I love all the things he does but its inconsistent, not scoring at home all season for a top of the league side is clearly an issue.

I've been a fan since early seventies seen many players come and go if you don't improve you go backwards a de bruyne type player is needed as well.

9.) 07 Mar 2020 15:55:26
We are still favourites to win the CL this year. All other teams in the CL have something left to fight for. We can concentrate on the CL.

Bring on Atletico at the slaughterhouse (Anfield)!

10.) 07 Mar 2020 18:07:40
We are not playing well enough to win the champions league right now but hopefully we will improve.

{Ed001's Note - Real Madrid won it 3 times in a row playing far worse than we are right now. It doesn't work like that.}

11.) 07 Mar 2020 18:21:03
Best team usually wins over 2 legs imo.



03 Mar 2020 09:48:35
As a sports psychologist I sometimes get to meet some interesting people.

About 6 months ago I sat down and had a chat with former NHL player and genuine hockey legend Wayne Gretzky and what interested me was how his mentality echoed another great sportsman I know (Roberto Baggio)

For context in case your not a hockey fan, Gretzky was the pele of hockey. A player só talented and driven that he singled out an area of the rink which he called his "office" he would often predict how many goals he would score, where he would score from in pré game conferences. And then go and do it, even with everyone knowing what he was doing and where.

During my chat with him I asked him what drove him after so many goals and trophies. His reply was a bit unexpected. He said he was never driven by goals or trophies. Never driven by winning or losing. He was driven by one thing only - always improve.

He said the goals, wins and trophies were a side effect of his true (and only) aim in the sport - to always be better than he was in the last game.

I thought two things were interesting about this, 1 that he had quite a holistic view of the sport and his role in it and 2 that he only ever judged himself based on his previous game. Not his history. Not the trophies. Not the awards. Always the last game he played.

I think this says a lot about why he was the greatest hockey player in history, why won so much. And why he was one of (if not the) most consistently brilliant performers of all time, despite everyone gunning for him and knowing exactly where he would be on the ice.


1.) 03 Mar 2020 10:45:42
Thank you for sharing that insight, Nevada. I think i can definitly see similarities with C Ronaldo's approach. He just seems to be obsessed with getting better and better every year.

Red Sandman.

2.) 03 Mar 2020 10:47:28
Great stuff!

3.) 03 Mar 2020 13:36:04
Thanks for this Nevada, I always like hearing about sporting greats, and Gretzky was one of the greatest ever.

4.) 03 Mar 2020 13:41:56
Great story Nevada, and also extremely jealous that you had the opportunity to meet the great one!

5.) 03 Mar 2020 17:26:37
I didn't realise there were other hockey fans here. I'm glad I shared the story as initially I wasn't going to since I didn't think there were other hockey fans.

I've been quite lucky that my career now and my former career has plugged me into some interesting circles, Gretzky I met at a coaching event. Bobby (Baggio) I've known for a while when I worked in Italy as a fashion show coordinator.

6.) 03 Mar 2020 19:45:22
Great stuff, Nevada. I'm not a Sports Psychologist or anything but I have read interviews of great athletes about what drove them to being great in their fields and that driving force varies from athlete to athlete or coach to coach.

For example, Tom Brady's fuel for his fire was that till this day, he was the 2nd choice QB t a guy called John Navarre (who he thought he was better than) and as a result, many teams passed on him in the NFL Draft cos they thought he was not good enuff. That till this day, hurt him so bad that he has been playing with that chip of his shoulder ever since.

Take Jurgen Klopp, our very own. I watched an old interview of him (in German with English subtitles) in 2015 just after he came to us where he talked about how his father instilled the ultra competitive spine he possesses whenever they played Tennis or Football. There was then this quote that never left me by Klopp, "It is not your fear of failure that makes you successful. It is your will to win". His will to win is unbreakable.

This is where I knew that Klopp was NO joke and not to be messed with. Underrate or or dismiss him at your peril. You may beat him today and/ or tmrw BUT he will keep coming back at you till he wins. Just ask City.

7.) 03 Mar 2020 22:01:50
Red Sandman I crossed paths with Ronaldo once in Miami and I wanted to have a chat but sadly I was there on business so I didn't have the time.



03 Mar 2020 09:12:00
Maybe people will disagree but now the "records" are out the way I'd like to see klopp rest our key players in the league and use them in the two cups.

It's incredibly unlikely we won't win the league now we can afford a few slips in the league. We can afford zero in either Cup.

Trophies are the only record we should be interested in. A treble winning season is more memorable than 100 points - which I thought was irrelevant even when City did it.


1.) 03 Mar 2020 09:41:01
I agree Nevada. There is an argument that Klopp should play his strongest team against Chelsea to try and play themselves into a bit of form anyway and, as you say play a few fringe players in League games. Hoping for a big response tonight.

2.) 03 Mar 2020 09:58:04
On the one hand I agree, but also think we need to get back into rhythm and consistency performance wise, to get the form for the cup matches. .

Last few games have looked slow and laboured and maybe one or two do need a rest, but coming off the winter break it shouldn't be an issue, Especially considering the fuss that was made over it.

Up to the boys to refocus, and get back to their best and put the fear of good into a few teams. Chopping and changing might disrupt too much.

They should be chomping at the bit to rediscover the form after the last few dissapointing performances, and maybe not tonight, but at some point they will give a team a good pasting.

But isn't it good we can now be shocked at such defeats, when a few years ago we would have half expected them.

3.) 03 Mar 2020 10:50:50
I think Klopp will not deviate from his plans. We're most likely to see a combination of youth and experience for tonight.

4.) 03 Mar 2020 12:11:00
As a 27 year old, who has never seen us win the league, I disagree.
Full strength in the league until it is guaranteed, then if we're still in a cup we can think about resting.
There is nothing to say the league is won, so let's not get complacent.

5.) 03 Mar 2020 13:44:39
Ghost goal I'm with you mate, I couldn't give a damn about the cup. I hope tonight it's all of our youngsters playing, give them their time, if they fail then they fail, who really gives a damn? The league is priority.

6.) 03 Mar 2020 13:48:44
After just coming off the winter break the lads should not be tired but we are definitely out of sorts. We got the results against Norwich and West Ham but the performances were not great. I would also love to see us go for the Fa cup and CL but we still have some tricky league fixtures to go and I'm not sure which ones we should rest any big names in.

Bournemouth - You would think this is 3 points in the bag but after recent performances i'd like to see us play this one full strength.
Everton- We should never go into this unless full strength. Bragian rights for this game is a must win.
Palace- Not sure if they are but to me they feel like one of our bogie teams from the past. never an easy game and another i'd prefer to see us go as strong as possible.
City - 100% full strength.
Villa - this could be a chance to utilise squad players.
Brighton - maybe another squad option
Burnley- always a tough game and will try and bully us like Watford did.
Arsenal - Would prefer a strong a team as possible but suppose it depends on if league is already won by then
Chelsea - same as Arsenal above
Newcastle - Could see the likes of Lallana etc get a final farewell run out.

Only my opinion on each game above. Interesting to ehar everyone elses thoughts.

7.) 03 Mar 2020 16:19:32
Gotta play the first team, and get the first team playing.

Last three games have been shockingly slow.

8.) 03 Mar 2020 17:36:04
Obviously I'm speculating since I'm not the team sports psychologist (Jurgen if you're reading I'm available with an excellent resume) but (from an external perspective) the team looks a little stagnant over the last few games, maybe that's pressure of going for the records but I think it's likely there's a lot on pressure and tension in general because it's a very gruelling season psychologically. Loud and commanding players help to ease that tension on the pitch by absorbing the attention and helping other players feel less responsible.

Henderson was doing this before which is why we still managed to eke out wins. Another way to allileviate this tension is to change a player or two as it changes the dynamic between the rest of the team. My picks would be van dijk and salah.

9.) 03 Mar 2020 17:56:50
Nevada interesting read mate. Is it as in you would rest Salah and VVD. Have I read that correctly. If so who would you replace them with. Personally I think we could do without Mo for a few games but rake VVD out and with Gomez injury niggle that leaves us with Matip and Lovren.

10.) 03 Mar 2020 18:12:56
I honestly think that the whole unbeaten thing is a bit of a monkey off the back to be quite honest. It had even reached a point where a draw would have been considered a failure, and a huge failure at that. The game is simply about winning trophies, not going unbeaten. Had we gone through the season unbeaten I’d have been hoping we lost the 1st game of next season to be quite honest. It’s a pointless distraction with artificial pressure that can only act as a distraction and a potential hindrance to the boys playing their natural game.

11.) 03 Mar 2020 19:48:47
For me, we finish the season strong by playing our strongest team possible in the PL and CL, just as we have been doing. That relentless approach is what got us here and not taking things easy and resting players for the fun of it. Nothing should change, IMO.




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24 Feb 2020 21:01:59
Thanks for the reply Ed appreciate the insight. Chiesa won't be leaving Italy, though I would like him. Great player.

Side question I know we have watched tonali a lot this season and last season (amongst many other teams), I also know he started taking English lessons last year. You think we might make a move for him?


{Ed002's Note - No - unless Fabinho were to leave. Sandro Tonali (DM/CM) - A player who was being chased by Conte at Chelsea as a 17 year old and has continued to be of interest but it probably won't go anywhere unless Kante or Jorginho were to leave. There was interest in the summer of 2019 from Liverpool, but it was seen as futile and expensive and not followed up. His reluctance to leave Italy ended PSG interest who then went for Idrissa Gueye and the €60M price killed the interest of Milan. Napoli, Inter, Fiorentina and Juventus remain interested with Manchester City, PSG and Chelsea keen if the kid is open to leaving Italy. PSG would only look again if Gueye or Paredes were to leave which seemes unlikely right now. Manchester City have extended the contract of Fernandinho another year but could bid and put the player out on loan, perhaps to Girona. Liverpool would no doubt consider their position as well although he will never be HG in England. Realistically, Juventus would be the best solution as they will be looking to replace Blaise Matuidi (although also have Casemiro in mind) which may open the door for Napoli in addition to Inter - I would discount Fiorentina.}



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23 Feb 2020 10:27:00
Ed002 you don't think that perhaps salah may leave in the summer and the club could look to werner as his replacement?

Werner played this role most of his career, its only really this season he has been asked to drop into a deeper role similar to firmino.


{Ed002's Note - Werner does best best playing through the middle, not on either wing - that is where the goals come from if he has the space. It would be a pointless exercise have him replacing someone who plays best from wide positions. So it remains that there has certainly been interest from Klopp but right now there is no deal in place at all at this time and if there is to be, unless there is a change of style, or Firmino leaves or Werner accepts he effectively playing from the bench as a back up to Firmino. The position where Liverpool really do need someone is in the AM role - and if a pot of money is available and no one suggests the price is too high, that is where Kai Havertz makes more sense.

As for Salah, I am aware that he and his agent are aware that they have put themselves in a difficult position with previous financial demands which saw them laughed out of Madrid and approaches to other sides came to nothing - regardless, Liverpool is probably the best place for Salah to be biding his time right now and there is no reason to think he will be leaving this summer. The efforts to boost his profile will no doubt continue, and he will doubtless be holidaying with a professional photographer again and be seen kissing babies and rescuing swooning girls with twisted ankles from being eaten by bears. But these efforts to sell him as the new Real Madrid poster boy may come to nothing as they have a first-choice forward target for next summer. So right now, it is hard to say where he could potentially move to unless things change - and they always do of course. In terms of a replacement, the player Klopp has made no secret of his desire to work with is Lorenzo Insigne but I suspect age is against that ever happening. So if someone were to push me in to saying who would be the best fit if Salah were to leave next summer, I would say Federico Chiesa rather than Timo Werner who is far more effective elsewhere. Chiesa would be a direct replacement, has similar attributes to Salah, is you, liked by Klopp and, although Liverpool have shown no interest, will be sold in the summer - with pleanty of interest across Europe - not least from Juventus and Inter. Ironically, he has had to be used as a striker for much of this season and has also done pretty well there.}



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16 Jul 2019 12:11:30
SG84EVA it's very easy to look at hard working midfielders and say they don't create anything but you would be wrong and you would most definitely not be considering their overall effect on the game.

The it running and pressing creates space for forward players as the opponent have to chase them around. In addition to this they win the ball back much further up the pitch which takes advantage of space.

Do they play the Hollywood killer passes? No but to say they create nothing shows a lack of understanding of the team element of football.




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19 Jun 2019 17:24:56
That's why I said I hope we just sign viable subs Virgil. But anyone thinking fernandes, Pepe etc are coming to be subs is a bit mistaken.




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19 Jun 2019 16:01:50
So we have the highest points total in the history of the club AND win a champs league at the same time and everyone wants to suddenly change the first 11?

Whether flashy or not that first 11 IS capable of winning a title and probably will. But if start changing players we will also affects tactics and team chemistry.

Personally I hope we don't sign anyone for the first 11. We need viable back ups not starting 11.





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09 May 2020 10:20:04
I can add one here. Roberto Baggio had a clause which said that at the end of every season his shirt must be auctioned at and the proceeds given to charity.

A clause which Gabriel Batistuta agreed with so much that he did the same while at Fiorentina.

It's quite tough to buy significant game worn shirts for these players as a result.




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26 Apr 2020 18:49:41
Interesting side story about Messi. Most people are aware that he was given regular shots of HGH (human growth hormone) when he was younger due to him being born with a type of dwarfism which meant his internal organs were underdeveloped.

What is often not mentioned is that the unavoidable side effect of this was his muscles grew at a much faster rate than the other kids his age giving him physical strength and endurance 4 or 5 years above his age. Barcelona were allowed to pay for Messi to receive this treatment on medical grounds, even though it is a performance enhancing drug which did enhance his performance.




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10 Apr 2020 17:53:01
Are you saying ed002 that it's not possible for uefa to ban teams from their competition on the basis they did not complete the domestic season?


{Ed002's Note - The rules relating to not completing seasons throughout the game relates to clubs like Bury who unfortunately went bust part way through - there is no provision for situations like this. If UEFA would like to go through a legal process to attempt to ban clubs they will be out of business a lot quicker than people are expecting. If clubs are banned from competition or their recommending Football Association decide to not put clubs forward that is fine. Right now UEFA are making inappropriate statements and are acting in their own interests rather than in the interests from club in countries suffering heavily from this pandemic (like Italy, France and Spain) and those countries who will suffer heavily in the weeks and months to come (like the UK). Many, many people are unhappy with them.}



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10 Apr 2020 17:51:47
What I find irritating is there are plenty of incredibly wealthy people in this country and yet the media isn't hounding them to suddenly donate large sums of money.

There are quite a few extremely charitable footballers who regularly donate large sums of money charity but because it doesn't get published by newspapers nobody knows.




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07 Mar 2020 10:04:18
I'd like to add that he's a super nice chap. Met him once many years ago and he always had time for everyone. Very humble guy. Was disappointing to see arsenal fans getting a bit personal toward the end.