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15 Nov 2024 07:37:40
Chiesa will be leaving in January. As I said before he signed he is homesick, does not like living in the uk and wants to go back to Italy.
Don't know if it will be a permanent move or loan move (I suspect loan with option) but he won't be a Liverpool player after January.
1.) 15 Nov 2024 08:49:52
Once fit, his value in italy would likely be at least double what we paid. let's give him a chance to get fit and see what he brings.
2.) 15 Nov 2024 09:09:57
I don't know what his problem is, the Mersey is the Lake Garda of the North of England!
3.) 15 Nov 2024 09:25:43
Not buying it, looks happy in recent footage I’ve seen and if he didn’t want to sign for Liverpool he would have stayed in Italy. Not been long enough to be homesick.
4.) 15 Nov 2024 09:33:04
@Stuie, don’t forget Ainsdale Beach, rivals anything the Italians have to offer ?.
5.) 15 Nov 2024 09:37:24
I'd be very surprised if he moved on in January.
6.) 15 Nov 2024 10:36:42
WDW, give me a Scouse bird, rollers in hair, fake tan and dressing gown on whilst in the local bargain booze over some sultry, well dressed Italian woman any day of the week!
7.) 15 Nov 2024 10:47:22
From James Pearce:
"Liverpool are basically giving him a mini pre-season in the hope that he can build up his fitness levels. It’s about handling the intensity of the training.
It’s too soon to write off Chiesa and there’s no truth in the rumours that Liverpool are already thinking about offloading him.
He played 37 times for Juventus last season, so it’s not like he arrived at Anfield after an injury-plagued campaign. He was cheap at £10million because he was down to the final year of his contract and they wanted him off the wage bill. "
8.) 15 Nov 2024 11:52:33
"As I said before he signed he is homesick, does not like living in the uk and wants to go back to Italy. "
He was homesick and didn't like living in the UK before he moved to the UK? That is some foresight mate.
9.) 15 Nov 2024 12:06:19
OP you’ve already asked one of the Ed’s this question if Chiesa is leaving Liverpool and you’re basically repeating what he posted, oh and didn't you say we’ve also signed Zubimendi, so I’ll take this post with a pinch of salt.
10.) 15 Nov 2024 15:13:21
I keep seeing these rumblings but I can't see that happening. Who knows though, seems like LFC were a bit ambitious adding him. They have an abundance of attackers.
11.) 15 Nov 2024 17:09:38
How can he be homesick before he signed?
12.) 15 Nov 2024 19:36:03
Id like to give Chiesa a few kicks of a ball at least before judging him. Hopefully he can get up to speed fitness wise.
13.) 16 Nov 2024 10:01:01
I seem to remember Robbo and Fabinho hardly kicked a ball in their first six months . and Tsimikas struggled in his first season.
He will be just what we need when the silverware is up grabs.
14.) 16 Nov 2024 11:57:57
To clarify I said previously that he is a player who gets homesick easily.
Now I'm saying that what some people thought would happen, is happening.
And yes I was wrong about zubimendi, things can change quickly in football. I was also the only person saying we would sign coutinho (even eds didn't think it would happen) and I also said that higuain wouldn't move to Chelsea either at a time when everyone thought he'd come to the uk.
I've got a few wrong before, I just pass on what I get told which is usually just restricted to Italian football but sometimes Madrid as well.
Id be happy to be wrong.
15.) 16 Nov 2024 13:03:54
Just ribbing you Nevada mate. I hope you are wrong on this one and Chiesa can come through for us. At least we have 5 other good options in attack either way.
16.) 16 Nov 2024 13:15:02
If he’s not happy there’s no point in keeping him, I expect he’ll go on loan or on a free.
An unhappy player is not worth what you paid for them.
£10m loss, poor scouting.
Someone took a punt on him and failed.
I’d rather we give our kids more game time. We’ve some good ones who need to play.
17.) 16 Nov 2024 20:55:21
Nevada, where are you getting this info about Chiesa leaving in Jan cos he is homesick?
18.) 17 Nov 2024 08:14:47
I am still not buying the revision to “I have said previously he is a player who gets homesick easily”.
I am no expert on homesickness but I do know Italy really well. Chiesa was born in Genoa, which is bang in the middle of Florence and Turin, which are 273 miles apart. He has only played for Fiorentina and Juventus, so “as a player” I struggle with this comment.
19.) 17 Nov 2024 10:43:51
He's going nowhere.
20.) 17 Nov 2024 20:59:21
@Olired
Any info I get comes from players agents, club staff and with certain clubs executives near the top but not at the top.
All within italian clubs and Madrid. Sometimes I hear info about other teams outside those clubs but I don't usually post that as it is usually less reliable.
I was once told that Sandro tonali was taking English lessons about 14 months before he came to prem league, though I didn't know or post where he would go. He ended up at Newcastle and that came from an extremely famous ex Brescia player. that was a one off though.
21.) 18 Nov 2024 00:06:21
Waste of time taking English lessons if you’re going to Geordieland.
22.) 18 Nov 2024 08:02:00
@Ron Keague I'm not sure anybody knew where he was going at the time. Sounds like a wild thing to say but the person who gave me the info knows sandro personally and the fact he didn't know what club Sandro was going to tells me that perhaps Sandro himself didn't until very late in the process.
This is just speculation on my part now but I think perhaps the reason he came to uk was for the money given his gambling issues.
23.) 18 Nov 2024 09:48:58
Wasn’t tonali sold against his will? I remember he was quite unwilling to go to Newcastle but Milan needed to raise some money, didn’t seem like he was eagerly plotting to come to the prem a year in advance.
24.) 18 Nov 2024 18:10:10
I trust Nev (ada) ’s posts on this. ?.
25.) 18 Nov 2024 18:10:23
Chiesa will not be leaving in January.
26.) 18 Nov 2024 21:17:05
I miss ed2….
25 Oct 2024 08:59:22
Hi eds,
Are the club looking to loan chiesa back to Italy? Not sure how that's going to help him at all and if true seems like chiesa was a buy similar to minamino, one done just because the player was very cheap and could be flipped for profit.
{Ed002's Note - Federico Chiesa (LW/F) Apparently not entirely happy and with injury problems the player could easily be deemed surplus to needs regardless of only joining in the summer. A Richard Hughes mistake, I assume made when Diaz was restless. A loan may make sense.}
1.) 25 Oct 2024 09:44:09
God, what a mess.
What happened Ed? He seems so happy when he joined.
What has made him unhappy?
{Ed002's Note - He has been injured and there is no real place in the side for him.}
2.) 25 Oct 2024 10:34:27
It really is going well with Hughes isn’t it. A worrying January transfer market round the corner for him to have another balls up!
3.) 25 Oct 2024 10:56:43
I remember thinking at the time he must be coming in to replace Diaz, so was surprised when Diaz stayed.
4.) 25 Oct 2024 11:20:59
Slot saying he might resume training today. I still think he has the potential to be a good signing. If he's fit and up to speed (don't forget that he had no pre season at all so was majorly behind the other players even before picking up his injury) he will get minutes and could be a huge benefit over manic Christmas period.
On Wednesday when Mo and Nunez were taken off to prepare for Sunday we lost so much threat up top. The opportunities to impress will be there, hopefully he can take them.
5.) 25 Oct 2024 11:24:26
Not that I doubt Ed’s saying Chiesa is unhappy but the player has to realise
a) he’s had no real pre season,
b) he’s trying to rebuild his footballing career and he’s lucky to be able to do it at a club like Liverpool and
c) he’s injured.
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He has limited his own ability to play more mins by not being match fit and when he could have got games/ mins in recent weeks he’s been injured.
He’s been at the club for a minute and needs to cop himself on.
If he stays match fit there will be ample mins for him this season.
6.) 25 Oct 2024 11:58:20
He's not happy about being injured? That's not really anyone's fault though is it. Surely he needs to give it a chance. All seems a bit premature.
7.) 25 Oct 2024 13:11:23
Crazy when pegged as signing of the summer. Plenty of opportunities to play over the season if he gets himself fit. Hopefully will get some minutes in carabao cup next week.
8.) 25 Oct 2024 17:19:22
It always seemed very clear that 6 established attackers is too many. I never understood this move even though I like the player.
9.) 25 Oct 2024 18:02:48
I don't know how so many people believe the crap that journos say. Its like some don't understand that journos have to keep themselves in a job by making up stuff that will get clicks or sell papers. Some just seem to want an excuse to slate hughes and/ or the club. I very much doubt chiesa will go out on loan in jan, when have we ever bought a senior player and loaned them out 6 months later? Utter tripe.
10.) 25 Oct 2024 18:14:31
Ben Davies 2021.
11.) 25 Oct 2024 18:15:54
Christ almighty he's been here 2 minutes after missing pre season. He'll be fine especially with the little sum we paid for him.
12.) 25 Oct 2024 18:16:35
A non story for me.
13.) 25 Oct 2024 19:57:07
Writing players off after 5 minutes is typical of the press/ rumour mongers.
Lets give Fede a chance .
14.) 25 Oct 2024 20:04:41
Correct endo, that transfer was for emergency cover with a transfer fee of less than a million, not a Italian Euros winner. Regardless, I stand by my opinion this story is a load of bull.
15.) 25 Oct 2024 21:01:54
It’s probably a bit more like Arthur if anything. That said it’s different circumstances and I agree it’s just the Italian press throwing excrement at a wall to see if anything sticks.
The most positive thing about the thread is an attack on Hughes - we haven’t seen one for a while, so it’s nice to see a bit of knife sharpening before the January window.
16.) 25 Oct 2024 21:48:37
Chiesa just remind me of Aquilani.
17.) 26 Oct 2024 08:10:33
@Lee, very insightful call as they are both Italian footballers.
@Longthing, what would yo say is going wrong at the club? Genuine question.
We are top of the PL, joint top of the CL qualification table and have got off to the best start to a season in at least 3 and a half decades. That’s not speculation from either over or under cooked imaginations or expert (for want of a better phrase) pundit analysis or Spanish / Italian press agendas or nutters on fans forums passing their uninformed opinions off as fact - it’s actual fact.
18.) 25 Oct 2024 18:06:51
Ed2, could Chiesa even be loaned out in Jan? I thought there were limits on the number of clubs a player could play for within a set time frame?
{Ed002's Note - Yes, he has not played for Juventus this season.}
19.) 25 Oct 2024 20:59:40
Evening ed002.
Do you mean the player isn’t happy or the club isn’t happy?
Cheers
Drogie.
{Ed002's Note - I rather doubt either are happy with the situation. The player, when fit, is not getting chances at Liverpool and it is difficult to see how he fits in to the team.}
20.) 26 Oct 2024 09:56:52
It was always a dumb signing.
Don’t sign injured players.
Haven’t we learned our lesson yet?
Besides that, he was never good enough in my opinion.
21.) 26 Oct 2024 09:58:47
Quite a fascinating thread. A clear difference between those who believe anything they read (especially if it paints the club in a negative light) and those who realise that a rumour is just exactly that and question it.
22.) 26 Oct 2024 10:14:01
@mftonjes, of the 6, Jota and Chiesa are out injured and Diaz seems to being managed due to fatigue. At the moment it looks like we have Gakpo, Nunez and Salah. If either Nunez / Gakpo as left and central attackers are injured or Mo on the right the 6 becomes 2 and with about another 100 matches between now and the end of the year it is unlikely to get better.
23.) 26 Oct 2024 12:37:31
I'm not entierly sure I believe any of this, apart from him and the club being unhappy with his injuries.
I may be a game out but I'm sure he has only been available for 4 or 5 games, 2 of which he came of the bench and I think it was 1 or 2 starts as well. So the game time for me is a moot point. It may be doen to poisition because he has played centrally more than on the wing.
24.) 26 Oct 2024 14:37:54
I am surprised by this rumour. He got a start vs West Ham and then got injured. I don't think he's been available for selection since then so I don't see how he can be frustrated with anything other than the injury.
If he was available, I suspect he would have been the sub for Salah on Wednesday, rather than Lucho. And if fit, he will presumably be in line to start vs Brighton in the cup. Mo's minutes have to be managed after all.
Seems like a non-story to me. Unless he thinks he is not injured. Or perhaps he doesn't like the food, weather or dying pit ponies. Ed's favourite reasons.
25.) 26 Oct 2024 22:58:02
He’s never going to be fit enough to play in the premier league. He needs to go to France or Holland or Saudi. The game is too intense over here, if you’re a sicknote then you’re wasting everyone’s time.
It was a desperation signing, total waste of money.
He reminds me more of Jean Michel Ferri.
26.) 27 Oct 2024 01:23:58
Completely agree with you Ron.
27.) 27 Oct 2024 04:58:21
For those who said its just press talk, I didn't hear it via the press. He came up in conversation with someone who is part of management structure at an Italian club. I didn't even know it was in the press when I asked the question.
28.) 27 Oct 2024 09:55:47
Thanks Nev ?.
16 Aug 2024 02:44:45
Read In the press that we will loan mamardashvili to Bournemouth for one year. Is that a misprint ed001/ 02?
Surely it is?
{Ed002's Note - The rules do not allow Liverpool to buy the player and loan him to Bournemouth. Bournemouth could take him on loan from from Valencia and then Liverpool buy him next summer. There would certainly then need to be oversight of the transaction.}
1.) 16 Aug 2024 08:49:01
Interesting, I have never heard of that rule. Would you have any more info about why wouldn’t be able to buy a player and then loan him out?
{Ed002's Note - I can help what you don't know. The rule is simple, a club cannot buy a player then loan him out to another PL side in the same window.}
2.) 16 Aug 2024 09:06:23
It’s all messy. So unprofessional.
3.) 16 Aug 2024 09:53:13
Not that messy Mark, just made more complicated by the rules.
We want to buy him now (presumably as we can get a good deal and he is keen) but he needs first team football. Would be better for us for him to get PL experience rather than go overseas.
We could have bought him and then loaned him to Germany, Spain, Italy etc (that's allowed) but just not to a PL club.
So we do a similar deal to the Naby deal - agree to buy him for a set price in 2025 (whether Jan or summer) and in the meantime, Bournemouth loan him from Valencia.
According to reports, us and Valencia were €5m apart on the fee, Bournemouth are paying a €5m loan fee for the season which makes up the shortfall.
Not completely straightforward, but a clever deal that gives 3 clubs what they want, as well as the player.
{Ed001's Note - it is just a complete waste of time and money. We don't need a keeper but we are buying one that we don't even want yet anyway. Idiocy not good planning. Good planning would have been getting the contracts sorted and buying players we do bloody need. Instead we have this shambles of a recruitment policy that is almost as inept as Chelsea's.}
4.) 16 Aug 2024 09:51:55
That seems pretty clear cut then. It's funny how crap the press are that they all regurgitate this story without even checking if it's actually possible.
5.) 16 Aug 2024 11:29:04
ED01 - Hughes is way out of his depth.
6.) 16 Aug 2024 11:49:50
I disagree Ed1. I don't think there is a plethora of good goalkeepers available on the market these days. If the club feel he has potential to be one of the top goalkeepers in the world, I think it is good future-proofing as long as he is loaned out so he is playing regularly. Goalkeeper was a dodgy department for us for several years after Reina's decline, Mignolet and Karius. I think the club are wise to guard against this.
On a similar note, do you think the current trend of stocking up on goalkeepers so you can rotate them is bad for goalkeeping in general? I personally don't think it is good that so many of them now aren't getting enough minutes and consistency.
{Ed001's Note - nonsense. We have 3 good young keepers on the books and it is just Chelsea level stupidity to buy another.}
7.) 16 Aug 2024 12:27:30
Those 3 young goalkeepers aren't going to be good enough to replace Alisson and it would be foolish to bank on them being so. If you have genuine belief that they can get to that level, then we can always sell Mamardashvili after a couple of years, probably for a profit, no harm done. Mamardashvili is much more likely to get to that level than any goalkeeper currently on our books. Chelsea's approach is a lot more scattergun.
8.) 16 Aug 2024 12:58:57
Babbity obviously you’ve watched him play how many games? Probably seen him play at euros and that’s it…. absolutely nothing wrong with kell, he should be given the opportunity to take over the No1 spot after alli goes. Atleast give him a full season before looking for another keeper. 30m on a keeper to loan back out is a farce when we are in need of better squad players and that’s the way it should be done. Vvd and salah need replacing first and foremost.
9.) 16 Aug 2024 14:35:11
Thanks for confirming to me the games I've watched Magico. And people who know a lot better than me rate him as one of the top young goalkeepers in the world.
And there were actually a fair few things wrong with Kelleher last season. Wolves is about his level. The problem with your logic anyway is Kelleher wants to be a starter now and Alisson isn't leaving yet.
10.) 16 Aug 2024 15:32:07
I’m with Ed001. Whilst I think he looks pretty good, why is this the focus of our efforts? We’re already days into these negotiations and it appears to be that we can only operate on one deal at any given time. If this lingers into next week (which it probably will given how the window has gone) it’s just going to create more drama in the fanbase.
It’s a masterclass by Liverpool. By leaving everything until the last minute, I’d now be happy just to get confirmation TAA and VVD agree to stay. I just hope they both believe in the direction of the club as neither is going to be short of suitors.
If we sell VDB I still hold out hope we might bring in a CB before the close of the window ?.
11.) 16 Aug 2024 18:11:03
a move for the georgian GK is frustrating to hear about. sure, it's a good value buy, but at what opportunity cost when it comes to the time resources of the recruitment team? LFC also need to pay more respect to the timing/ optics of moves and how that impacts the general culture around the fanbase. they're setting up their new manager for an opening stretch to his debut season that gives him little good will to start with and also virtually zero margin for error. LFC really need to tighten things up administratively and professionally as they head into the fall of 2024.
08 Aug 2024 00:19:25
To echo what others have said I have been told zubimendi will join Liverpool.
1.) 08 Aug 2024 06:34:45
Whilst UTD look to Berge! Go UTD.
2.) 08 Aug 2024 07:28:20
Hopefully it's true, he has v good reputation. I don't know awful lot about him but thought he excellent in euro final when he came on for rodri. spain played much better in 2nd half when he on.
If lfc to progress we definitely needed to do get somebody top class in that position, it's been a problem for a while now.
3.) 08 Aug 2024 07:54:13
He’s a bit underwhelming for a first signing for me and I have concerns about his passing and physicality and those of you expecting Alonso MK 2 are going to be disappointed.
Good analysis on you tube for him
Pythagoras in boots.
4.) 08 Aug 2024 08:12:49
Victor and Walter have competition ?.
5.) 08 Aug 2024 08:32:50
Wow, underwhelming ?? if we manage to sign him I’m pretty certain you’ll be wishing you could retract that statement, the fact he’s turned down Madrid Bayern and arsenal already tells you he’s a class act, I think he looks a perfect fit but thought he was un obtainable, he will absolutely improve the starting 11, other than youth players with massive potential the only players we should be buying are the ones that improve the first team.
6.) 08 Aug 2024 08:37:50
Easy does it Casey. I’ll admit my preference is for Ederson, but can’t at all complain about Zubimendi, he’s not a 7 stone weakling by any stretch and by all accounts he has a fantastic football brain as well as a good work ethos. If we pull this off it is a great signing.
7.) 08 Aug 2024 08:48:41
Great signing for the holding negative position. Breaks down hope and aspirations admirably. Welcome Casey to the squad.
8.) 08 Aug 2024 09:03:43
Vv I agree Ederson would probably of been my preference probably more based on his performance against us last season.
9.) 08 Aug 2024 09:06:09
@Casey, Pythagoras does decent analysis, however also look at the review they did of Mac Allaister when we were about to sign. Also an underwhelming review, to be fair later came and said they were wrong so don't nail your analysis of Zub on Pythagoras opinion solely.
10.) 08 Aug 2024 09:06:56
Zubi can guide Baj and Neyoni to greatness aswell.
11.) 08 Aug 2024 09:07:57
Regarding zubemendis stature/ physicality I think it’s irrelevant as I think bajectic will assume that role and will no doubt have made the position his own by December if he can stay fit and off the treatment table.
12.) 08 Aug 2024 09:20:08
We are competing in 4 comps, all of which I assume we are taking dead seriously. He WILL come in handy, no doubt.
13.) 08 Aug 2024 09:22:04
I'm still not convinced this one will happen, all the noise seems to come from Journos saying words like 'exploring' or 'considering'. There doesn't seem to be any agreement with his club, although we know what is needed to be done. Full clause up front, and apparently turned down a move to the prem previously.
Hopefully I am wrong (usually am according to the missus! ) but think there is a lot of mileage left in this one.
14.) 08 Aug 2024 12:43:58
I agree wyred…. a lot of talk, but we’ve heard it all before.
15.) 08 Aug 2024 21:50:36
How tall is Bajcetic now? Isn’t he growing half and inch a month?
Must be about 6’7” by now ?.
16.) 09 Aug 2024 08:06:43
Casey he's got the best aerial duels won of any midfielder over 71% he also won possession back in midfield areas more than any midfielder in Spain 235x since the start of 2022 season! And he's dribbled past less than rodri! No idea why he's underwhelming good lord!
12 Jul 2024 10:49:11
Just reading old posts and according to ed002 konate, van dijk, Gomez, van den berg, Allison, kelleher, tsimikas, are all considering leaving with mac possibly next season.
Question for ed002 and ed001 is there an issue within the club that's making so many players want to leave? Does the club have the money to replace so many regular first reamers?
{Ed002's Note - What I have said is that there is interest in those players. Only Sepp Van Den Berg has said he wants to leave.}
1.) 12 Jul 2024 12:14:37
We'll need to keep hold of Nat Phillips for sure then.
2.) 12 Jul 2024 16:24:24
Kelleher has more or less said he wants to leave too, but did so in a very respectful way.
3.) 12 Jul 2024 16:27:35
@Nevada. Do you really believe everything you read?
4.) 12 Jul 2024 19:07:48
Less and less by the day.
5.) 12 Jul 2024 19:34:07
Not only believe it, make it up in the first place.
6.) 12 Jul 2024 15:17:50
Ed out of curiosity what would you do with our current CB situation?
{Ed002's Note - Replace Matip with SVDB and add Pacho to replace Konate, give VvD a two year extension.}
7.) 12 Jul 2024 21:56:33
Great question, succinct answer, thanks SR and Ed, good stuff!
8.) 13 Jul 2024 00:47:07
Thanks for the answer Ed. Would your starting cb partnership be virgil and quansah going into this season? Personally I think quansah has to start after his breakthrough last season.
{Ed002's Note - I think so.}
9.) 13 Jul 2024 01:35:35
Is there interest in Konate Ed002?
{Ed002's Note - Nothing serious.”
10.) 13 Jul 2024 07:11:40
Spot on Ed02.
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06 Sep 2024 12:50:59
Myself and a few others had said that we were ok with not making any jug signings because we wanted to see what slot could do with these players.
Three games in isn't a lot of time but since we have a break I'm curious if any people have began to come around to what we said after seeing us play?
1.) 06 Sep 2024 13:22:56
I also thought we had enough jugs.
2.) 06 Sep 2024 13:31:02
It has been a good start but I would have liked us to bring in a Toby or a gravy boat though.
3.) 06 Sep 2024 15:00:08
I think it’s way too early in the season to give a definitive answer on this.
It’s been a great start and Slot has taken to the job like a duck to water. The fact he and the club tried bringing in a 50 mill Spanish midfielder and brought in an Italian international clearly shows that he thought the squad did need that little bit more.
4.) 06 Sep 2024 15:11:07
If Elliot and Jones are both injured then it starts to become a problem. We have found most years our midfield fades a bit towards the business end of the season.
{Ed001's Note - in that case, I would hope Nyoni gets a few run outs and chances to impress.}
5.) 06 Sep 2024 15:20:32
To be clear - I was in the “not going to cry endlessly about no signings” group. But I do think we need to make moves in and out of the squad. Just didn’t see the urgency necessarily in this window.
Next two windows will be key as Slot continues to identify his key playing group and any new additions.
6.) 06 Sep 2024 16:02:18
I wanted signings too but what can one do? All in all, It's too early to tell so let's give it bit more time and a more suitable sample size of games (esp. ones where we go down a goal and things get sticky) before we give a real assessment of the start we have made.
7.) 06 Sep 2024 16:17:56
I am still in the camp of us needing one or two more (one midfielder and one defender) .
The schedule is insane. We might get away with it if we get lucky with injuries. But that kind of hope never ends well.
8.) 06 Sep 2024 16:26:12
How I am possibly going to get through an entire season without any new shiny toys to look and wonder at? Granted Chiesa has been brought in but I was really hoping the club would show some ambition and focus on the real prize - Mbappe. Life is simply unfair and just really tough. ?.
9.) 06 Sep 2024 16:38:12
Just wanted to say that I also like jugs. For the record you can never have enough of them.
10.) 06 Sep 2024 16:42:54
Are you referring to ceramic or silicone? ?.
11.) 06 Sep 2024 16:56:25
Au natural for me. jiggly ones.
12.) 06 Sep 2024 17:37:45
I said we needed a midfielder most of all, a leftfull and a centrehalf if SVB/ Gomez went. I can remember people saying alright with no signings as it got later in the window but i don't think any L'pool fans, back in May would honestly have said we didn need some new faces. to be honest i think its something you seen more commonly on here later on as people realised we wouldn't be making these signings.
13.) 06 Sep 2024 17:52:49
Can’t beat a cracking pair of jugs.
14.) 06 Sep 2024 18:10:29
We needed a cb so bought a goalie who won’t even play for us. Shambles if you ask me.
15.) 06 Sep 2024 18:15:38
Way too early to say. So far it’s been a perfect start by Slot. Don’t think anyone ever doubted Slot. Once players start picking up knocks and we’re playing every 3 days we’ll see how the squad copes. I still think we’re short to win the big titles over City and Madrid.
16.) 06 Sep 2024 18:32:54
Is Endo totally out of picture? I remember how great he was for us against city, arsenal and in the league cup final against chelsea. The lad gives his all and often hard workers turn it around with their dedication. I hope he gets his chance when time comes and will definitely come good.
17.) 06 Sep 2024 18:38:12
Injuries will definitely happen it just depends on WHO gets injured and at what times.
We have really good options in all positions bar perhaps left back. But if you get too many key players all out at the same time then we’ll struggle. Every team would.
Imagine if Arsenal had Saliba and Gabriel out for 2 months at the same time. The drop off to their replacements is so huge they’d struggle for top 4. Or if City had De Bruyne, Haaland and Rodri out for 2 months?
You have to be lucky not just with the amount of injuries but with who it is and the timings of injuries. If it falls the wrong way then any team would struggle regardless of the perceived squad they have. There are always weaknesses in every squad.
18.) 06 Sep 2024 20:22:02
I believe failure to add 2 top class players, cb+ midfielder, will cost us a chance to win the league.
Hopefully I'm wrong.
19.) 06 Sep 2024 20:43:38
I think we have the right sized jugs at the moment. They can be too big.
20.) 06 Sep 2024 20:44:15
I should have proof read ??.
21.) 06 Sep 2024 21:10:44
Isn’t Jones fit now?
22.) 06 Sep 2024 22:09:04
For about 30 minutes Hessle.
23.) 06 Sep 2024 22:09:57
Jones should be back for Nottingham forest! I am looking forward to see if Tyler Morton gets some chances before the January transfer window, hopefully he grabs his chance. With Tyler Morton and Endo staying we have the numbers in midfield to deal with the season, i think. Argentina keep overplaying Mac-Allister however despite him not training since joining their camp, he played then got subbed after feeling something, and now their manager says he is training alternatively so he can play vs Colombia, a game that will be very physical and intense. Hope he comes through that one!
24.) 06 Sep 2024 22:16:42
@Scouse John, what did you think about the last transfer window, mate?
25.) 07 Sep 2024 06:05:38
Who was the CB? You know, the one good enough to actually get on the pitch but also with such high character he’d be prepared to chill on the bench until he gets a chance to play? Who is this CB we were going to spend 10s of millions on?
26.) 07 Sep 2024 08:34:53
Maybe new should have gone for Graham Potter?
27.) 07 Sep 2024 23:15:31
No, I still don’t agree, and I don’t think you can even begin to make out like you were correct 3 games into the season. There is a lot of games, a heavy schedule, and there will undoubtedly be injuries - I this we are going to be a few players short of trophies when things really kick in, but I hope I’m proven wrong.
31 Aug 2024 22:44:26
Hey ed001, have you heard anything about chiesa limping out of training?
{Ed001's Note - I haven't mate, but I have just woken up from a sleep! I am busy catching up on the sleep i missed the last week or so.}
1.) 31 Aug 2024 23:39:48
Word is it was planned.
Let's hope that's correct.
2.) 01 Sep 2024 07:58:54
Slot said Chiesa most likely won't be in the squad today, not due to injury just due to him only just joining so he needs to work with him tactically etc. He said the only way he gets in to the squad is if we have any injuries so I doubt he's injured, just won't be in the squad.
Even though I'm excited to see Chiesa play, its actually nice that we have the luxury of not needing to rush a new signing into the squad or starting 11.
3.) 01 Sep 2024 09:52:03
He didn't play in Juve's preseason and hasn't played their first league games, so he probably isn't even entirely match fit after the Euros, probably will take some time for him to get up to speed I think.
4.) 01 Sep 2024 10:08:47
That’s kind of expected, I think.
5.) 01 Sep 2024 10:09:21
I've heard he limps into training as well. The rumours that Endo damaged Chiesa's walking stick in a 50-50 challenge haven't been confirmed though.
30 Aug 2024 23:31:14
I'm looking forward to all the "we need to sign a dm" chatter to stop.
Just a shame it will be replaced with "why didn't we sign a DM"
Despite slot never showing at all that a DM is part of his tactics either here or in Netherlands as well.
1.) 30 Aug 2024 23:46:30
Although we may not have needed a dm we most definitely needed strength in depth. We have a decent 12 or so players but injuries will hamper our season and our weaknesses will show at the end of the season again if we are unlucky with said injuries to our main group of players which hasn't been addressed. That's the way I see it. Hope I'm wrong though.
2.) 31 Aug 2024 00:11:32
DM is a pigeon hole. I think we needed a player who defends incredibly well and passes incredibly well. A Xabi Alonso type. We don't have anything close to that level of player in our squad. Perhaps Trent but I have yet to see Trent play a good game in the middle. Whereas he is on fire at rb to start the season. I'm excited by Gravs start but he is not that type either. Jones can't be relied on. And not that type either. We didn't do it and I'll live with it. If there's injuries to either Grav or Macca, receiving the ball in those areas would be a weakness for Endo and even Szobo if he goes back there. With this style of play we only got Jones/ Grav and Macca who I would trust. One is already injury prone. And Grav is not exactly the type of player I like for the role either but he is showing signs of growing into it so let's see. We'll truck on. What's done is done. Hopefully we keep those guys fit or Maybe Trent could step up in that position if needed. Perhaps although he has shown signs of getting caught in those areas when he plays midfield too. There's definitely an upgrade possibilty there.
CB. I think we got four good players there. Do we have a fifth choice? Maybe I just have nightmares still about that one season. Hopefully we are ok there.
All in all. Grav is showing good signs. Players are fit and we won our two games. I know I complain a lot mostly because I'm flabbergasted by the contracts situation handling and the planning philosophy of this DOF.
If all three are not signing, I would have sold one this season to limit the blow. Hughes just kicked the can down the road. It would have hurt to lose one but with proper planning we could have tackled one area this year. If it is all three are leaving and he must have a very good idea of the situation, it's insane how it's been handled.
I just hope we have one or two of those contracts sorted in the coming weeks so this window makes a little sense from that perspective.
Let's see I guess.
Anyway, thank God that frustrating window is over and I can forget about that clown we hired for a while.
Going to concentrate now on the footy and take a more positive view because that side has started really positively.
3.) 31 Aug 2024 01:05:06
To quote Ed002, Nevada.
“{Ed002's Note - I disagree. Slot typically used 4-2-3-1 (or 2-4-3-1) using two DM players in games - Max Waiffer and Ramiz Zerrouki - what one might call the Double Dutch system. }“
Slot always played with a defensive midfielder, in fact two, as Ed002 pointed out. The fact we don’t have a top class one will be what costs us, again.
{Ed001's Note - sorry but he doesn't. They are not defensive mids. Not in the sense you mean. Just like Zubimendi isn't. The Dutch use possession for defensive purposes. Their 'defensive' mids are there to keep the ball and keep it moving. Usually one or both full-backs would invert to become the defensive mid - just like we saw at times in the first couple of games, when Trent inverted, freeing up Mac Allister to get further forward, rather than playing as a DM.}
4.) 31 Aug 2024 01:25:38
A well balanced post Davey, well said mate.
5.) 31 Aug 2024 04:30:24
Slot never coached in the Premier League, maybe he'll change his tactics accordingly.
{Ed001's Note - he may well do, but he hasn't yet, so buying a player just in case he changes tactics at some unspecified point in the future would be a bit stupid.}
6.) 31 Aug 2024 05:39:08
We tried to sign Zubimendi, and left talks with Varela until too late, so it’s clear that the club (and perhaps Slot? ) felt like it was an area in need of reinforcing, that we didn’t is either the clubs hierarchy failing at their job, or being too tight money wise. Neither one is good enough for a club looking to challenge on all fronts. Optimism is up now so people feel like everything is good - wait for a few adverse results, or a few injuries to come into play, people will be singing a different tune very quickky.
7.) 31 Aug 2024 07:13:38
“The Dutch use possession for defensive purposes”.
Finally This! When Van Gaal was at Ajax, this is exactly what he did. Cruyff used to do this at Barcelona and Peo dies it at City. Must be an Ajax thing. Also, it’s funny that we have fans who have never coached a day in their lives dictating to a successful manager what type of player he should get despite not ever using nor needing said type of player. I find that weird, as heck.
And yes, signing a type of player in case his tactics evolves over time in the future is just absolute nuts.
8.) 31 Aug 2024 08:26:30
Or Seano, the player chose to stay at his club, as is his right in terms of Zubimendi.
9.) 31 Aug 2024 08:33:20
The Dutch use possession for defensive purposes”.
Ed I have to call you up on this.
Ten Hag uses Maguire and Johnny Evans for his defensive purposes ?. I think that’s more possessed by the the Ghost of Gareth Southgate than it is possession.
{Ed001's Note - not out of choice though. He brought in De Ligt for his ability on the ball.}
10.) 31 Aug 2024 08:43:25
That’s why you have back up plans Oli, that’s why you make contingencies for when situations change, but we were so slow and cumbersome in the transfer market we didn’t do it. It’s incompetence and/ or lack of investment, and neither should be glossed over with these ridiculous counter arguments like “the squads as strong as when we won the premier league” or “fans are like kids they just want shiny new toys”. The club knew they needed to strengthen, they didn’t, that’s a failure. As Ed002 said lessons need to be learned or, in my opinion, more competent personnel needs to be found.
11.) 31 Aug 2024 09:09:48
Ed001 was tongue in cheek mate.
Ten Hag is a weird one. Some of the stuff he comes out with before and after games seems like pure waffle. And everytime I’ve seen Utd it’s hard to make out what they are trying to do playing wise.
In regards to Slot usually find press conferences boring but his are really good and informative.
{Ed001's Note - I know mate, I meant to say I thought it was funny. Ten Hag just seems like a man who is fighting fires, knowing that he is only there until they find the man they actually want.}
12.) 31 Aug 2024 10:38:45
Absolutely Ed1. We have a very good DM in Endo but there’s no room for him in the team because we don’t play with a tradition DM.
There’s also this narrative about a CB but we have 4 quality players for 2 positions. I get that Konate has struggled with injuries but do we really need to go out and splash £60m on a CB just in case of 3 injuries to our CBs?
I also get that we need to replace VVD at some point and maybe they have someone in mind that just wasn’t available in this window. Anyhow it’s not essential in this window and will be big shoes to fill.
P1 says we have 12 good players which is nonsense. We actually have quality replacements in every position right now. The only position I’d say we may be a bit short is LB but Tsimikas, although not amazing is good enough for the odd game as long as Robbo isn’t injured for a long time.
We definitely have enough to see us through until January when Slot will have a much better idea of what he needs and what positions can be improved on.
Next summer I’d expect us to be a lot more active in the market too as Slot starts to put his own stamp on the squad. To do that now would be a mistake in my opinion.
29 Aug 2024 12:53:59
Question for ed (s)001 + 2
In the likely event of Salah leaving at the end of his contract do you see chiesa as his replacement or would you expect to sign another?
{Ed001's Note - even if Chiesa is the replacement, we still need a back up option if he goes, like we did last summer and this summer.}
1.) 29 Aug 2024 14:29:48
Indeed, Ed01. I don't see the club sitting on its hands when Salah leaves. We're still going to need a player in there who will be just as good as hopefully Chiesa will be, if not better.
2.) 29 Aug 2024 15:36:51
Hopefully Mo signs a new contract. He's still one of the best around.
23 Aug 2024 15:52:40
Some woefully inept assumptions rife on this site at the minute
1. Buying is improving. I repeatedly see people saying rivals are improving, no they're not. They're buying. If those signings do well they might be improving. They can even do well and the time doesn't improve at all.
2. Not buying is standing still or going backwards - no it really isn't. There are plenty of teams (including us) who didn't buy or bought very little and went on to actually do better than the previous year.
3. A lot of people assume we need player x without really considering how well that player or skillset will fit in. For example it's been suggested multiple times that a destroyer will be a good signing and rabiot would be a bad one when in fact the opposite is true. Rabiot would fit in slots system far better than any destroyer - that's not to say I rate rabiot (he's alright) but his skill set is something the midfield uses, a masherano type destroyer absolutely doesn't fit at all unless they can also retain and recycle the ball, I genuinely can't name one of those who is available
Finally that this team is maxed out at third place last year, probably the most ludicrous of all assumptions for one a lot of the players in that team have ALREADY finished higher than that in the past. For two the rest of them are young and developing so saying third place is their limit is extremely pessimistic so early in their career.
1.) 23 Aug 2024 15:56:59
I stopped reading at “ They can even do well and the time doesn't improve at all”. Now that is a woefully inept statement.
2.) 23 Aug 2024 16:07:12
Looking forward to your post season review Nevada. I make you wrong on all points.
3.) 23 Aug 2024 16:39:37
Your condescending attitude is enough for me. When you have respect for other posters I might read your other posts.
4.) 23 Aug 2024 16:14:09
Frode, I give you the example of Cristiano Ronaldo, joined Manchester Untied for the second time, scored a load of goals and the team got worse.
5.) 23 Aug 2024 16:18:45
There's nothing wrong with what Nevada typed and his statement about buying and not necessarily improving is correct. Chelsea have bought loads of new players as usual and I think they have regressed. Arsenal too bought another CB when they arguably need a CF/ ST more than anything. So it remains to be seen if they have improved or not.
6.) 23 Aug 2024 16:18:51
It's slot and his staff who need to worry about making the team better.
As a fan, I'll just keep watching the games and hope we keep winning.
I know it's hard for people to understand but we do actually have players that can improve.
The only players that have already peaked are probably VVD and Salah.
7.) 23 Aug 2024 16:20:30
131 of the 132 teams in the top 7 leagues have signed someone this year. They can’t all be wrong and Liverpool are the only taking the right approach. We’ve had a disaster this window we don’t need to pretend otherwise it’s not like it’s any of the supporters’ fault.
8.) 23 Aug 2024 16:46:00
They can’t be this incompetent OneKiss. Somehow I still believe/ hope a couple of contracts will be signed and a couple of new signings will come in.
9.) 23 Aug 2024 16:50:21
Nothing wrong with your opinion Nevada, just don’t start calling anyone with other opinions, sound like a person who believes his opinion is always right….100% guarantee your not.
10.) 23 Aug 2024 17:03:44
Magico ?.
11.) 23 Aug 2024 17:21:55
Think you’re completely wrong Nevada. Investing in the team is to improve it. Hughes should have his arse handed to him.
12.) 23 Aug 2024 17:24:45
The worst post is always the guy turning up to a Transfer Rumours site. And moaning about people discussing transfers ?.
13.) 23 Aug 2024 17:29:21
IT's like this forum has somehow turned "improving the squad" into "i want a shiny new toy". And stating "shiny new toy" seems to make you instantly correct. It's laughable.
Teams have to improve every year, surprisingly its a hard league to win. A new manager normally has funds to invest in players that will suit their system (rightly or wrongly), and we should have as well.
People acting like the same squad from last year that plummeted hard in performance after february is somehow the best squad in the world, and 1 or 2 players couldn't improve it is just insanity. Noone's sitting here calling for mbappe etc, the squad should improve every season as we were off the pace of City and Arsenal. Maybe we are happy with top 4, but not getting in some players now, even if its just for a potentially good replacement for some of our veterans that are currently going to be walking out next season seems like a good decision.
and point 2 of hte intial post is just awful, we have been signing players, every year, some rubbish some good. But we won the league after spending big and on some world class players, VD and Alison, and it took a year to bed in, but acting like we won the league after never having any investment is just duplicitous.
14.) 23 Aug 2024 17:29:21
IT's like this forum has somehow turned "improving the squad" into "i want a shiny new toy". And stating "shiny new toy" seems to make you instantly correct. It's laughable.
Teams have to improve every year, surprisingly its a hard league to win. A new manager normally has funds to invest in players that will suit their system (rightly or wrongly), and we should have as well.
People acting like the same squad from last year that plummeted hard in performance after february is somehow the best squad in the world, and 1 or 2 players couldn't improve it is just insanity. Noone's sitting here calling for mbappe etc, the squad should improve every season as we were off the pace of City and Arsenal. Maybe we are happy with top 4, but not getting in some players now, even if its just for a potentially good replacement for some of our veterans that are currently going to be walking out next season seems like a good decision.
and point 2 of hte intial post is just awful, we have been signing players, every year, some rubbish some good. But we won the league after spending big and on some world class players, VD and Alison, and it took a year to bed in, but acting like we won the league after never having any investment is just duplicitous.
15.) 23 Aug 2024 18:22:31
I see you Nevada.
1 - I kinda agree with you there. Have Citeh really improved with what they have bought so far. I wouldn't say they have. Arsenal probably have. Newcastle, no. Villa, yes. Chelski, no and begrudgingly UTD, yes. Mixed bag really. That and the fact we have a squad that can defintley improve on last season.
2 - See above.
3 - I agree with you here. Player recruitment should be based on what you need, not what you don't. There is reason Gravenberch is playing in the 6 rather than Endo and probably why we ain't in for Ugarte.
16.) 23 Aug 2024 20:56:53
It sounds like a lot of posters on here believe only our squad will improve this season. No one thinks the others will also improve too?
17.) 23 Aug 2024 21:31:06
Mcgoveb. Those below us, I do. Maybe not enough to overtake us tho. Those above us, I expect Arsenal will and Citeh will be Citeh.
18.) 23 Aug 2024 22:12:29
we will win! hehe.
19.) 23 Aug 2024 23:09:47
@OneKiss, love the general idea that if everybody does something I should do it too. Safest that way I guess eh?
20.) 24 Aug 2024 00:04:10
I'm open to a debate, can someone who disagrees tell me an available player who fits slots system that they would like us to sign?
There was a typo in the first paragraph because I'm nearly always typing from my phone, apologies for that. I didn't notice at the time I wrote it.
Of course I can be wrong but how many of those of you saying we are going backwards now and we'll never win anything said the same thing when klopp bought just minamino and SVDB and then went on to win the league.
We spent £64 on a striker, it didn't bring us the league. Last season we spent a bunch on a new midfield and we didn't win the league either.
The reason I disagree with always buying playing is because it means you're not giving players time to settle and if you don't win then next year you're buying again and pretty soon your stuck with a bunch of players who you don't want, being paid too much who you struggle to sell.
I'm not sure where the complaint about me disrespecting people came from I didn't name anyone or insult anyone I simply picked holes in their thinking - that's exactly what a rumours/ banter is for.
I get people want instant success but it's probably not going to happen and being more realistic is better. Even if we signed every player that is on your dream list we probably still won't win the league this year because they need time to bed in, get used to life and acclimatise to the tactics. Those things take time.
21.) 24 Aug 2024 00:06:44
@deanW I'm not denying teams have to improve where we differ is I believe there are many ways to improve a team and some posters here believe there's only one - buying players.
It seems a lot of people have zero faith in slots ability to improve players. I'm willing to give him time to see what he can do before concluding that we need players because what we have got can't be improved.
22.) 24 Aug 2024 01:38:43
In fairness to Nevada, I am fascinated to see how the current team fares with Slot training the players rather than Ljinders. Regardless of whether we get new players in or not, im hoping to see how Slot’s tactics (along with hopefully playing players in their best positions) affect our performances. Signs in pre-season and the second half vs Ipswich have been positive.
23.) 24 Aug 2024 09:30:10
Frode, you said you stopped reading the post after a certain sentence. I propose you read the whole post cos you just did yourself a grave disservice by ignoring the context of his comment overall while at the same time, you attacked Nevada without from a position of ignorance. Shame, really cos it is a great debate.
24.) 24 Aug 2024 09:31:36
IDreamOfGin at least on the face of it, if Slot can get these guys playing his system effectively, that's one way of improving the team even w/ o signings. You're spot on at least on this front.
08 Dec 2024 15:46:48
Our previous deal was a much smaller flat fee with a larger than usual % of sales. It was a very unusual deal because normally clubs make next to nothing on kit sales.
The new deal with Adidas drops to the usual % of kit sales but has a much higher base fee than the nike deal. According to club accounts we didn't actually do that well on the Nike deal. Brought in far less money than was expected. My guess is that's why they reverted back to the usual licensing agreement.
27 Nov 2024 23:59:25
I'm surprised at how many people think a player is bigger than the club.
We thought rush was irreplaceable, then Fowler came along. We thought fowler was irreplaceable then Owen came along. We thought Owen was irreplaceable then Torres came along. etc.
Everyone can be replaced.
27 Nov 2024 23:14:22
Just a note for people, Edwards nor Hughes renew contracts.
That's Julian wards job, at least be angry at the right person.
18 Nov 2024 08:02:00
@Ron Keague I'm not sure anybody knew where he was going at the time. Sounds like a wild thing to say but the person who gave me the info knows sandro personally and the fact he didn't know what club Sandro was going to tells me that perhaps Sandro himself didn't until very late in the process.
This is just speculation on my part now but I think perhaps the reason he came to uk was for the money given his gambling issues.
17 Nov 2024 20:59:21
@Olired
Any info I get comes from players agents, club staff and with certain clubs executives near the top but not at the top.
All within italian clubs and Madrid. Sometimes I hear info about other teams outside those clubs but I don't usually post that as it is usually less reliable.
I was once told that Sandro tonali was taking English lessons about 14 months before he came to prem league, though I didn't know or post where he would go. He ended up at Newcastle and that came from an extremely famous ex Brescia player. that was a one off though.
05 Dec 2024 07:57:20
I agree with seano. Allison saves both the first and third goals. Both were the result of poor keeping.
16 Nov 2024 11:59:25
Sorry to hear about that. Ed002 was an essential part of the site. He will be missed.
15 Nov 2024 07:41:08
Julian ward deals with contracts. At any club it's the technical directors job to handle player and staff contract renewals.
I have been saying this for quite a while but people just have a bee in their bonnet about Hughes.
04 Nov 2024 23:45:31
I said I would be fine signing nobody Becker. I said I would like to see what tune slot could get out of current players before buying new ones as I felt what we had would fit his playing style anyway.
I also didn't think we needed a 'destroyer' it's honestly not a necessary position anymore since most midfield press as a two or three man unit these days.
31 Oct 2024 08:25:56
Missed big chances is a misleading stat on its own. You know who was second in that list? Haaland.
Anyone want to argue haaland is a bad player because of all the missed big chances (he's up there again this year too)