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06 Apr 2018 09:18:44
Ed001, old friend Maze hopes you are well.

Just catching up on the champions league games from midweek and would like to know if you have warmed to young Robertson yet?

We had a discussion early season when Maze wanted him at United because he has the potential to be the best left back in the league but you thought he poor and too easily exposed.

Do you think he has improved since then and in turn changed your mind. His performance against City was phenomenal for a player who fought relegation last season. Keen to hear your thoughts of that of your fellow red men.

All the best. Maze.

{Ed001's Note - still struggles and is really raw. On a good day he is excellent but he is far too inconsistent for my liking. I do love his enthusiasm though and especially his energy.}

1.) 06 Apr 2018 11:04:47
Ed01 what would you say he struggles with mostly? Is it more his attacking (i. e. His crossing and decision making) or his defensive side? Personally I think all 4 of our full backs have impressed or improved this season.

{Ed001's Note - it depends on the game, that is what is so frustrating. Sometimes his crossing is excellent, a lot of the time it is just aimless or hits the first man, or worse he just chooses not to put in a cross when we have packed the box. Sometimes he defends really well and then he just gets caught miles out of position and all over the place constantly another time. I would have to say it is his consistency that is the biggest problem.}

2.) 06 Apr 2018 11:19:35
Cheers Ed. Would you say he's improving though? I honestly think there is some player in there and Left back has been a problem position for us for god knows how many years. The passion he brings seems to rub off on others as well which isn't a bad thing. I think playing day in day out with Salah, Mane and Firmino will be a good thing for him and hopefully next season we will see him as well as our right backs and midfield pre-empting the front 3's runs more and more and slotting balls into them rather than aiming pointless crosses into the box.

{Ed001's Note - he is too inconsistent to judge. You can't say he is improving when the following week he has a stinker.}

3.) 06 Apr 2018 11:44:48
After years of watching the likes of Glen Johnson stealing a living, I have a lot of time for a trier.

{Ed001's Note - agreed, I have a lot of time for him, but that does not mean he is the finished product and he needs to work on his weaknesses. However, being a trier and having shown at times he can be excellent, he deserves the time to do so. Let's be honest, there are not exactly a huge number of good left backs around, you only have to look at how many people laud Marcelo as the best in the world to know the quality of left backs it truly dreadful in the modern era.}

4.) 06 Apr 2018 11:52:37
ED001 would you say he is an improvement on Moreno and I definitely agree he is raw but I think there is potential to work with there like trent on the other side
but he need to put together 5 o 6 good performances in a row.

{Ed001's Note - yes he is a step forward. A clear step forward. I am hoping he will be like Finnan used to be. He came to us as better than what we had and then gradually became on of the best as he improved himself each season.}

5.) 06 Apr 2018 12:06:21
Thank god Ed, I thought I was the only one who thought that Marcelo is one of the most overrated players out there.

{Ed001's Note - he is obscenely over rated.}

6.) 06 Apr 2018 13:48:37
Ed, if Marcelo is overrated, who in your opinion is the best left back around?

{Ed001's Note - off the top of my head I don't know. Sorry.}

7.) 06 Apr 2018 17:24:13
I wouldn't say you were hash on Robertson at all Ed, but if he's so inconsistent why do people rave about him so much I wonder? Who do you rate in the Premier League in terms of full backs? I'm struggling to think of one that doesn't epitomise most of what you said about Robertson.

8.) 06 Apr 2018 17:28:51
I really like the kid and we seem a lot more solid since he became a regular. But it's all about opinions and hopefully your correct and he improves even more with experience.

9.) 06 Apr 2018 17:32:00
Disagree, Marcelo is the best offensive full back in Europe. He can’t defend! Oh well he don’t need to! He play in a team that has a world class stopper, a world class CM and a world class Holding mid, his job is to create goal scoring opportunities and he does it week in week out!
Alex Sandro is a good shout.

10.) 06 Apr 2018 18:33:31
I agree, Ed. Robbo is a bit inconsistent even during games if you look at it closely. Even in the City game, some of his crossing was aimless while others, great. He was in position defensively while other times, it was just schoolboy stuff. One of which was he was caught out on a simple give and go btw Walker and Sterling which was comical.

Yes, I think he is a step forward from Moreno esp. cos of his enthusiasm, energy and eagerness to learn BUT with some saying he's arguably the best LB in the PL, a a HUGE stretch. You can't be the best LB in the PL with that much inconsistencies in your game. That is simply impossible. But I'm not worried cos Klopp will fix him up right esp. cos he is willing to learn.

27 Sep 2015 08:05:03
Rodgers deserves the chance to at least finish the season with this team. He has had one good full season and one poor full season so why can't the fans just get behind him up until May and see what he can deliver?

Let's be honest Klopp and Ancelotti are pipe dreams and will have far more attractive propositions that suit their stature offered to them, heck Guardiola may as well be linked with the Liverpool job as gullible supporters will eat it up. There isn't many top managers out there at the moment (especially foreign managers) who will drop down from a worldwide renowned club to a more regional club.

Get behind Rodgers he may just suprise some of you!

{Ed001's Note - one good, two poor full seasons.}

1.) 27 Sep 2015 08:22:53
As much as you dislike rodgers ed1 I think he's stayin till end of season mate.

2.) 27 Sep 2015 08:23:24
His first season was more of a bedding in period Ed001.

3.) 27 Sep 2015 08:28:48
Comes from the man who criticizes Van Gaal on the smallest of topics 😂😂😂

4.) 27 Sep 2015 08:32:14
That year was down to Suarez and Sturridge

I remember the Norwich game, Norwich were playing really well and looking the most likely when Suarez smashes the ball in from 35 yards then proceeds to score 3 more.

Rodgers got lucky with Suarez and then to have Sturridge as well to a certain extent as well Sterlings pace in behind those 2, team couldn't live with it.

I hate everyone saying that year was down to bodge because it just wasn't.

5.) 27 Sep 2015 08:52:28
OG wasn't Sturridge a Rodgers signing though?

6.) 27 Sep 2015 08:58:14
I don't understand the term 'deserves', he is not a soldier that a commiittee should decide if he deserves an award. He didn't make us any favour that he deserves anything. it is us the fans who deserves something, we deserve better. He is already the seond longest serving manager in the PL. Managers in the PL earn reidiculus amount of money and they keep their job if they do an amazing work with their teams justifiying the money they get. If not, they go pretty quick and someone else get a chance. BR is the first LFC manager to not bring a trophy for three years and we will nt win one with him evenif he stays for 20 years. for three years he wasn't able to stable our defence and us going forward also look rubbish more often than not. We always break down in big games and very often against poor teams either.He spent as much money as the top 4 and more than some but he is one of the worst buyer of players ever to make transfer decisions in any team in the PL. Players can't find their form under him and then tehy go to other teams and start to score. He is not inspiring in anyway. Under him mroe starts will leave if they have a chance to play elsewhere.As an LFC supporter watching the team became unberable every 9 out of 10 games.

Re Klopp and Ancheelotti, don't talk for them. There were many indications that klopp is willing to come and same with the Itallian. But if not anyone is better than BR.

7.) 27 Sep 2015 08:59:46
What evidence have you seen over the last three seasons and a bit that he has learned anything and will improve as you say. One win against an exceptionally poor villa side does not wipe away the abysmal end of last season and utterly uninspired start to this.

How long can he live on the excuse of suarez, so far he has blamed the players for not having enough quality who he spent 300m on and has now rounded on the fans. Whos next to blame, the melwood chef for not serving his favorite fishfingers at teatime.

This so called regional club has won the champions league 5 times, a top manager wiĺl come if approached correctly. I think he will stay for a season but not because he deserves it but because the owners gaffed and will have to live with him until a suitable replacement can be found.

8.) 27 Sep 2015 09:05:55
A bedding in year? I would have seen a reasonable argument if he still wasn't trying to bed-in, in his 4th season in charge. All of these are just very vague arguments to condone the mistakes of the failure that is Rodgers IMO.

Over the course of these 4 seasons, I have had ample time to judge what he is all about, and I cannot trust see him turning LFC into a regular CL team. He has been afforded more time and given more money than most mangers in world football can only dream off at a club like Liver pool, and he spends his time criticizing everything from the players, to agendas, the Anfield pitch and even now, Luis Saurez's exit.

I no longer have the confidence in Rodgers nor do I believe a word of what he says.

9.) 27 Sep 2015 09:07:17
OG So when Man U won the league with RVP scoring for fun was that lucky. And Man C when they won it with Aguero scoring at will, was that also lucky. The way you are putting it managers are lucky if they good players. Don't make sense to me

10.) 27 Sep 2015 09:14:01
No red, by Fergie proved it year in year out without RVP.

You missed the point mate or what?

11.) 27 Sep 2015 09:16:24
I heard Sturridge wasn't a BR singing mighty, club signing I'm afraid.

12.) 27 Sep 2015 09:17:22
Red 64 well yes they were lucky to have players in form and scoring, the difference between them and rodgers is they knew how to organise a defence too and they actually WON something.

13.) 27 Sep 2015 09:24:30
At the end of the day for Suarez and Sturridge to play that well the manager got the best out them and utilised their ability. Rodgers is the man for Liverpool at the moment and like I said above I honestly don't think a top manager would be willing to come to a club like Liverpool with its transfer committee ruling the roost and the supporters living off expectations of League wins from decades past yonder.

{Ed001's Note - only a Man Utd fan could possibly think that the clueless blame passing buffoon was the right man for Liverpool, and, just to be clear, that is what you are. So I will ignore this nonsense as just a blatant wind up, as it must be.}

14.) 27 Sep 2015 09:29:29
Ultimately every manager's time runs out, some just last longer than others. Rodgers isn't improving and there is only so much you can blame on Suarez being sold. A good manager will adapt to what he has not just try to keep recreating. Also he never learned from that season or from the likes of Keegan trying it that trying to score 1 more than the opposition by just putting everything into attack is how you finish second. You win by having a defence for the days when the goals don't flow. That was 2 years ago and we haven't improved the defence and one of the main liabilities, Skrtel is still an automatic first choice.

He has gone as far as he can BUT more importantly at the moment we have a squad that can achieve. If we leave it another season outside the CL then the chances of getting a manager who can phone up the likes of Hummels and Reus and be listened to by them are gone. Equally the likes of Coutinho will be on their way. A big name manager with the ability to produce with a good squad (which is what we have) can get better names to come in January and produce the culture/reputation we need. Another season of relying on someone in the top 4 winning a cup to get into Europe and you can kiss goodbye to a top manager, top players coming and our best players staying. We will become a selling club for real.

15.) 27 Sep 2015 09:53:31
Red I'd generally agree with that principle but it was amazing how quickly Rogers went back to his 4-3-3 and target CF approach with Balo, Lambert and now Benteke all recruits post Suarez departure indicating he never really liked that system or tried to replicate the style of play.

Even now it's obvious to most that 2 mobile forwards makes the most of Coutinho and Hendo/milner in midfield, but even though we've seemed to have figured that out at last I always get the sense we're just a game away from Rogers trying something stupid again due to his ego or mental gymnastics.

I'll never begrudge Rogers since that 13/14 season was extraordinary and you can't completely discount his role in that, but I think it's clear that the 13/14 year is not his preferred approach, and also that he's been out strategised multiple times since Suare left by the likes of the hammers, crystal palace, Villa, let alone Chelsea man Utd. And he doesn't have an style of play that's actually been proven to work for us long term. I think it's time for someone else to have a go.

16.) 27 Sep 2015 10:36:14
I'd be surprised if he lasts until January.
Reports say Carlo won't be available until December but we have some tough matches before then and a relatively easy December.
IF he lasts until January he must have had some good results. He will need to sign a world class keeper in January in order to sustain any upturn in fortunes.

I really can't see it happening, but we live in hope that LFC keep winning.

{Ed001's Note - wow Ron, you have really changed your tune of late. Can I ask why?}

17.) 27 Sep 2015 11:03:41
Last 2 weeks or so. It's not that I want him to go, I'm ambivalent about that. I do want Liverpool to win every game and that means the manager is successful.

2 things have happened to make me think the end is nigh. One of the player's uncles comes to the matches with us. He doesn't give out info or anything like that, I don't think he nephew really knows much at all (about anything 😄). But it was at the West Ham game. We were all mouthing off after the game and he just blurted it out that the players know Rodgers is off. I was sceptical because to my mind that was our first bad result of the season, so I wrote a long rambling post on here basically criticising all the squad for their attitude and application.
However, I've seen it for myself and taking in ALL the performances this season, I just have a gut feeling that the players know.
Add Macca's info into the mix and it all adds up

18.) 27 Sep 2015 11:12:52
Surprised people are rushing to say we need to sign a keeper - we've got 2 premiership level keepers. We know the first choice is at best a mid table keeper, would be useful to see where the other stands first.

19.) 27 Sep 2015 11:41:52
That actually sounds believes and certainly feasible. I think it just shows the state of the matters when Rodgers biggest supporter realizes his timw is up

20.) 27 Sep 2015 12:20:40
Ron why are you ambivalent, are you happy with mediocrity then?

21.) 27 Sep 2015 12:23:07
Haha maze top banter mate, i always wondered why you didn't give moyes another year in charge but instead just sacked him after a 'bedding' in year. and not even a whole year. mighty disrespectful if you ask me. that man deserved so much more for what he did for utd

22.) 27 Sep 2015 12:40:20
JB - I'm ambivalent because I don't really care who manages the club. I'm not into personalities, I just want the team to win and entertain if possible. So if Rodgers stays until the end of the season or goes at the end of November, I'm not too fussed.

23.) 27 Sep 2015 15:46:14
You say you want the team to win but you're 'ambivalent' whether a man who had won 17 points from the last 16 games stays . doesn't make much sense but then you're a Rodgers apologist so you're not likely to make sense!

24.) 27 Sep 2015 19:56:41
Ron, if you don't care who manages us then why have you been on a one man crusade since the spring and summer blatantly defending his indefensible failures by making up every single excuse on earth?

25.) 27 Sep 2015 23:12:17
I think things are adding up too, Ron! We only played well against Villa, because they were a poor side and it was two defensive errors (again) that allowed them back in it! We should really have won that match by a cricket score, not nervy (in the end) 3-2!

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27 Sep 2015 09:24:30
At the end of the day for Suarez and Sturridge to play that well the manager got the best out them and utilised their ability. Rodgers is the man for Liverpool at the moment and like I said above I honestly don't think a top manager would be willing to come to a club like Liverpool with its transfer committee ruling the roost and the supporters living off expectations of League wins from decades past yonder.

{Ed001's Note - only a Man Utd fan could possibly think that the clueless blame passing buffoon was the right man for Liverpool, and, just to be clear, that is what you are. So I will ignore this nonsense as just a blatant wind up, as it must be.}

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27 Sep 2015 08:23:24
His first season was more of a bedding in period Ed001.