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03 Jun 2015 07:33:33
Morning Eds, we must surely be trying for Konoplyanka? Surely be wouldn't choose Stoke ahead of us?

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{Ed002's Note - Macca says there is interest from Liverpool - I am not able to confirm that. I have explained where I do know of interest and that includes Stoke amongst others.}


1.) 03 Jun 2015 08:30:35
I hope we don't pass on kono on a free - we were willing to pay 12 million for him.


2.) 03 Jun 2015 08:37:34
We've got plenty of left backs already, don't need another


3.) 03 Jun 2015 10:25:42
Left back, better clean up the tea I just made a right mess here! Cheers for the laugh Max :)


4.) 03 Jun 2015 11:46:48
Buy him for profiteering if anything. The lad can play ball.


5.) 03 Jun 2015 11:48:46
Play him at right-back Brendan, you know you want to.

That'll free up Milner to play at left wing-back and then you can push Lucas up front.


 

 

 

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13 Jul 2017 22:07:21
If we get our current targets (don't worry not going to name those names everyone talking about) this transfer window could be the best I can remember in a long time.
I then started thinking what has been our best season for transfers.
For me it has to be 1987 when we bought Barnes, Beardsley, Aldridge and houghton.
Unbelievable business.
Any advances on 1987?

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1.) 13 Jul 2017 22:44:52
Was only thinking that this morning actually about what our best window was, 87 was possibly one of the best. I can't think of a better one?


2.) 13 Jul 2017 22:47:16
For as long as I can remember it has to be 87 mate.


3.) 13 Jul 2017 23:28:31
And what season that followed. Unfortunate we were not in Europe when we were so strong.


4.) 14 Jul 2017 00:03:45
Dalglish Hansen and Souness.


5.) 14 Jul 2017 02:09:03
Diouf
Diao
Le Tallac
Cheyrou.


6.) 14 Jul 2017 03:04:56
I am pretty sure we won't be signing any players at the levels of these 3 during this window!


7.) 14 Jul 2017 06:05:25
I loved that 87 transfer period but the year we got invaded by scots turned us into a team that dominated both England and Europe for over 6 years.


 

 

05 Jul 2017 21:14:40
Response to Jonnyred from earlier
Keane wanted Man Utd but when they signed Lindelof he wasn't confident he'd get enough playing time so said he wouldn't join them.

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25 Jun 2017 07:03:40
Good Morning Eds
Couple of questions for Ed 1.
You mention Oxlade-Chamberlain is now our top cm target. I don't see him as any better than Coutinho, Lallana and Wijnaldum in that position but he does fit the mould of more attacking players that Klopp converts to centre midfield. What are your thoughts on why Klopp looks for this type of player in this area?
Secondly, what position do you see Grujcic playing in a Klopp team?
Finally, I like doing the look of Ejaria when I saw him play last year. What are you thoughts on him?
Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - Klopp likes them to have the ability to contribute higher up the pitch, to win the ball back in dangerous areas, I would assume that is the basis of it. Attacking players tend to want to be in that final third, defensive players automatically look to drop off and get into position.

Grujic will play a similar role to Wijnaldum I believe. Looking to make late runs into the box.

Ejaria is a very tidy footballer with decent quality on the ball, but he has to work on his off the ball work. He always wants to just sit deep and receive the ball to feet, he needs to learn to mix it up a bit.}


1.) 25 Jun 2017 07:25:34
Thanks for the quick reply mate.
Interesting re Ejaria. THe game is easier with the play in front of you. Do you think that Grujcic or Ejaria have the ability like Wijnaldum to receive the ball in tighter spaces and make those forward runs?
On a side note the u12s team I coach won their 3rd tournament of the summer yesterday.

{Ed001's Note - Grujic is better at running off the ball and getting on to the end of chances, like he did a couple of times at the end of the season. Ejaria is good at receiving the ball in tight spaces and keeping it, not so sure he can do what Wijnaldum does though and power forward.

Congratulations mate, well done to them.}


2.) 25 Jun 2017 07:31:03
Thanks Ed.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}


3.) 25 Jun 2017 07:57:04
Long term view fellow u12s coach here would be great to have a chat exchange views if youd like too? Cheers.


4.) 25 Jun 2017 11:08:27
My son plays U12 too at a good level. I would be keen to chat to other coaches / footballing dads on topic of youth football.

I'm actually quite obsessed about it.


 

 

23 Jun 2017 07:47:35
Morning Eds
First post for a while.
Would like to start be saying, as usual this window you guys and Macca have been the most reliable source of what's going on re potential transfer targets out there.
I agree with Ed 1 that a new left back shouldn't be a 'make do' option.
Ed 1 who do you think would be the best left back for us from those 'available'?
Is Mendy a realistic left back target and is he as good as everyone seems to think (I've not seen him play much? )
Finally, is there any chance at all of us re-building bridges with Fulham to be able to go for Sessegnon?
Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - from what I have seen of Mendy he looks perfectly suited to our play. He is a realistic option in terms of they would sell and he would like to join, but unrealistic as the cost, including wages, is just too high.
Personally I am not sure who is the best left back, but probably the easiest to attain would be Ghoulam.

Forget Sessegnon, unless he decides to run down his contract and leave Fulham on a free.}


1.) 23 Jun 2017 08:02:52
Have you seen Ghoulam play Ed001? Never seen him play and not liked what I saw from Youtube.

{Ed001's Note - not much mate. That is the issue, I have not seen many left backs of any kind of quality that we can get. If it was just go and get any left back, then Tierney stands out amongst those I have seen.}


2.) 23 Jun 2017 09:38:47
Mendy or Tierney. Either would be class and if they continue to progress, could be the best in their position going by what I've seen (handful of TV league games, UCL games, International games and listening to pundits and explayers views) .
These guys could be a LB for 8-10 yrs solid. Bar injuries obviously. The only two I've seen which have all the qualities on a modern full back but can actually defend as well.
Yes £50m say. That's £5m a season if they, as I say, profess and last 10yrs. Even if after 5 they wanted to go at this rate it's easily money back.
Otherwise in today's market £10-£15m is meh, average at best or invest in untapped potential which might not come to anything. It only takes 3-4 of those over that 10yr period to made not buying one of Mendy/ Teirney even more of a missed opportunity.


3.) 23 Jun 2017 16:00:02
Ed01, I have seen Ghoulam play since his debut at St Etienne and quite a few games at Napoli and with the Algerian team. He may not be the best defensively as many other LB's (bar maybe Betrand) are at the moment. However at 26, he has come in leaps and bounds since Rafa (who has no time for lazy defenders) signed him. Now with Mauricio Sardi (spelling) as manager at Napoli, they now play a more expansive style of football that is awesome just like Klopp does and Ghoulam has benefited a lot from that. He has better quality offensively and a terrific left foot, way better than Robertson but not better than Mendy. I would take a punt on him if Mendy can't be signed.


 

 

23 Jun 2016 11:21:35
Ed 2, you often criticise Liverpool fans for quickly turning on lfc owners, players etc.
Then when supportive, patient and rational Liverpool fans urge short term critical fans to be more patient you criticise them.
Although it goes against modern culture and society a long term approach has to be the way forward in our case.
In our current position we did well to get Klopp in. We now need to give him time to achieve something. If he doesn't over the long term then will be the time to become critical.
I know you're only teasing us Ed 2 but thought I'd make the point none the less. There are some patient long term fans out there.

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{Ed002's Note - I didn't criticise him - I simply found it surprising that he is so impressed by failure. It is nothing to do with modern culture nor culture.}


1.) 23 Jun 2016 11:38:39
Depends on how you interpret failure.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool won nothing. Liverpool failed to qualify for Europe. Feel free to scratch around for more feeble excuses.}


2.) 23 Jun 2016 11:49:37
Ed002 is right. This squad won nothing and finished 8th.
The players we have are bang average simple.


3.) 23 Jun 2016 12:02:00
Think yous could all do with a little re read and reflection on the comments before biting the shiny bait.


4.) 23 Jun 2016 12:06:35
If you don't win a trophy, you've failed.
Man. City, Man. United and Leicester were the only 3 teams in the Premier League to have a good season as far as I'm concerned.


5.) 23 Jun 2016 13:20:30
Have to disagree with you there Tristan you can have a good season without winning something (I'm not suggesting we had anywhere near a good one mind) . But Spurs had a good season, West Ham had a good season, Leicester had a GREAT season. It's what your objectives are at the start wether it's a good or bad season at the end. And if you ask any man city or united fans I think they'd disagree with you and say their respective clubs had poor seasons too, neither would be changing managers if had a good season. They both under achieved along with many others, including us. And that's what matters, we under achieved! I think we will be better this season but so will Chelsea and both manc clubs so it's going to be another hard season. I believe we have the right man in the dug out and I'm excited by the signings he's made and will look forward to watching anyone he chooses to sign next. The negativity from some people on this site is borderline embarrassing (not saying you Tristan) everyone knows who they are and it's making this site boring to read. I think these are the ones who play Fifa regularly and check out players on YouTube! On a side note I must admit I enjoy reading MK's, Ron's and Carra's posts!


6.) 23 Jun 2016 13:34:09
I think considering the shambles he took on. Injuries to key players, a drugs ban, Mignolet and Moreno forgetting which team they kicked off playing for every game and the negativity surrounding every home game I think his first season was a major success.

He hasn't signed anyone yet really. And has raised the stock of the under achieving players ten fold.

If you want to learn one thing from Klopp learn and take on board the togetherness he is instilling in our club and watch things evolve.


7.) 23 Jun 2016 14:01:51
Good post. We were a penalty shootout away from beating one of the most expensively assembled squads in Europe, and a 2nd half collapse away from winning the Europa. Given the right financial backing, and the trust to let Klopp do things his way, we should see success in the coming years. I just hope FSG don't balls things up by repeating their actions of previous years, especially regarding transfers.


8.) 23 Jun 2016 14:04:34
Ed2 is generally more rational and correct on certain things related to Liverpool because he doesn't support the club so he will tell us the truth. Some of us have extreme red tinted glasses on and it's very strange after so much failure. On top of that you have this hysteria surrounding klopp because of past achievements and not things he's actually done with us. Last season was a failure nothing more nothing less. We finished 8th and lost two cup finals, a slightly better season got kenny daglish sacked and rightly so, so I don't understand all the klopp brown nosing. I agree I expect us to do some good things under him but let's be level minded for once. If I'm not mistaken, klopps form at one point was as good as hodgsons form with us. Not comparing the two, I think klopp is a superior coach but this is reality.

Ed2 is generally right about us.


9.) 23 Jun 2016 16:21:03
Fsg haven't ballsed anything up they have nothing to do with the transfers or picking of players. That is down to the much maligned transfer committee and the manager. Fsg has bankrolled millions of pounds into the club and its employees have spunked a vast majority of it up the wall on quite frankly stupid buys.

I like the business we are doing so far, it fiscally responsible but most importantly they are the right purchases for areas of need. Something we have failed to do in preceeding transfer windows. We just have to wait and see how they turn out, undoubtedly some will fail but if we get one or two gems that will be fantastic.


10.) 23 Jun 2016 16:35:13
To be fair ed, there are plenty of valid excuses for Klopp.

{Ed002's Note - Black cat paaing in front of him - check. Walking under a ladder - check. Talking labradoodle urinating on his leg - soon.}


 

 

 

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16 Jul 2017 08:04:03
Seem to be a few things being overlooked and assumptions made here;
the same striker won't/ can't play every game up top due to the increased number of games we're playing next season;
2 of our strikers are very injury prone;
Substitutions will be made during games;
We may play 2 up top at times as we did towards the end of last season;
There is a big difference between Klopp lying and changing his mind based on what he sees. You can't make a 'promise' and stick to it if no longer deemed best for the team. The player has to play his part too by maintainIng performance levels and following coach's instruction.

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14 Jul 2017 19:56:05
Great timing Macca. Great way to start the weekend.
So glad you continue to post despite some abuse from a small cross section of those on the site.
Majority definitely appreciate your updates whether they end up being spot on or not. You can only give us the info you have and it's always appreciated 👍🏻
I remember you being spot on about loads of stuff in the past.

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10 Jul 2017 13:53:21
I know this rumour isn't news but I know we are definitely looking at Robertson. I go up to Glasgow a fair bit with work and know from a member of his fiancee's family that we're interested (she's Glaswegian)
They reckon he's a great player (guess they would say that) and would be an upgrade on what we currently have at left back. I've not seen him play so couldn't agree or disagree 🤷🏻‍♂️.

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17 Jul 2017 21:33:32
Brandt left back? Not sure about that 🤔.

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17 Jul 2017 07:03:39
Keep reading who Keita replaces. Who says this has to be the same player every game.
The season is long, loads of games to be played and against lots of different teams. Horses for courses and all that.
Klopp may have a preferred midfield 3 if this is the system we go with but how often will he get to play this? It certainly wasn't very often last season . He also won't be able to play his 'first choice' combination of 3 players twice a week with our counter pressing style.
Henderson, Couts, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Can and Keita if he joins all look like they'll be fighting for a starting place but I'm sure they'll all get plenty of minutes during the season.

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16 Jul 2017 08:14:43
Good post apart from the Markovic part.
How can we have ruined his career when he's got another 10 years to go?
I remember him playing against Man City in his first game and he looked sharp and changed the balance of play in that game. He never really performed at the same level after that cameo for us.
Who's fault is that we'll never know but my point is blaming lfc is a guess. Likelihood is, it was a combination of factors. Some coaching related (being played out of position), some player related (good players should be able to perform well in any position) .

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15 Jul 2017 14:44:59
It's on skysports but you can see all of the games on catch up on sky too.
England team has gerrard, Owen, Murphy and heskey in.
Spanish team has luis Garcia in and Bruno cheyrou playing for France 🙈.

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15 Jul 2017 07:38:31
i sense Milner will start as first choice lb still with Robertson having to earn his starting spot, perhaps playing in cups initially.
Follow on question. If Milner doesn't start who's on penalties? Couts?

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