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26 Jul 2025 06:09:40
I'm so bored of the moaning from Newcastle fans about PSR rules and the 'cartel' because they can't simply just buy their way to success with oil money. But they don't think a cartel is unfair, they're just stroppy that they're not in it.

PSR has incidentally helped legacy clubs, but one could only shudder to imagine the obscene wages and fees that Newcastle could throw around without financial regulations, and the adverse impact it would have on the competition.

Newcastle had it right when the Saudis first came in, Ashworth was a great DoF and their recruitment was smart. They don't need PSR deleted to continue what worked for them.



26 Jul 2025 07:43:50
They can sell their women’s team and couple of hotels to themselves and comply with PSR. PSR is not their problem. The real issue is they can’t sell their projects to top players! They will have to accept they can only shop Tier 2 players for a few years until they become big.



26 Jul 2025 09:12:21
Newcastle fans are out of their depth dancing with the big boys. I’ve never seen so many fully grown men crying over a potential transfer ?

They’ve had an absolute Mare.



26 Jul 2025 09:12:59
Actually, PSR IS a problem for them. If it wasn't, why didn't they just give Isak the contract he wanted and that Staveley promised him at the beginning of last season? That is a BIG reason that Isak wants out, he was peeved at the beginning of last season because he didn't get the pay rise he wanted. Once Staveley left, Paul Mitchell reneged on the promise that was made and his contract wasn't renewed because it was seen as untenable financially to do so. If they had managed to tie him down last year as previously promised ON TOP of signing a few players this window, Isak wouldn't be angling for a move.

That's quite apart from them having to sell Eliot Anderson and Yankubah Minteh to balance the books, they did not want to sell the two players necessarily, just as they did not want to sell Anthony Gordon but were desperate to offload players before they had to submit accounts. For the likes of Joao Pedro, Cunha, Mbeumo, Delap, Newcastle simply cannot offer the wages that clubs like Chelsea and United can, it's not simply a matter of them not being able to sell their project, they just do not generate revenue in the same bracket either.

Maybe you should stop spreading misinformation when you don't really know what you're talking about.



26 Jul 2025 09:20:50
They have a problem selling the chilly North-East to South American and Mediterranean players.



26 Jul 2025 09:26:12
I think they are just pissed off that they missed the boat! City and Chelsea spent loads before the rules came in and set themselves for long term success outside of the means that would typically be available to them. Newcastle now cannot do the same thing.



26 Jul 2025 09:41:03
10 or 11 years ago we were less of an attraction than Newcastle are now for players. We're where we are now because of good management, financial planning and on field success. (History aside) They're not a million miles away from the same thing.



26 Jul 2025 10:13:58
You are having a laugh if Isak is after money @Patrik. They can shift couple of players of the wage bills to pay him what he wants. You don’t get it. The boy wants LFC. The effort was to convince him to stay at NUFC for one more year. And so far they are failing. You really think LFC would offer him £500k per week?

If Isak is after Pure money then he has no place at LFC.



26 Jul 2025 10:40:46
Nick1994 - your point about Newcastle being unhappy with the ‘Cartel’ raises an interesting irony, in that their owners, the Saudi’s, have amassed their huge wealth by being part of one of the biggest, and most profitable, cartels in the world - namely OPEC.



26 Jul 2025 10:49:31
I never said he was motivated by money. But he was open to staying at Newcastle and signing a new contract last year, and Newcastle did not give it to him because Mitchell and the higher ups did not deem it to be financially viable. I am addressing your point that they have no psr concerns and can magically generate headroom to pay whomever they want. Or have you forgotten what we are discussing here?



26 Jul 2025 10:55:00
We tuned his head damn it! The boy only wants us or unless some biggies crawl up from Spain. He wants to win trophies not to participate.
Now on the revenue generation, how do you think PSG are generating money. French league is as good as championship in terms of revenue form the game.
All Newcastle need is a couple of kit deals and a few airline carriers flying above the Middle East to generate money!



{Ed001's Note - again more ignorance. PSG get extra revenue because of their location. Paris is a fashion capital and they get enormous amounts of money due to merchandising deals. That is why they have their new logo which has Paris on it and it sells in enormous numbers to knobbers who know nothing about footie but just want the Paris logo or the Jordan logo.}

26 Jul 2025 12:11:05
I do not agree with the post but we need to be fair here Ed1. What you are talking about is happening only after all Lavezzis, Pastores, Di Marias, Ibras, Mbappes, Neymars, Messis. and PSG buying thier brand with "sponsorship" money and than selling it to grow tehir own. That would all be ok if that money was in any way sports related before it became sports related. That works. Otherwise we wouldn't be seeing Inter Miami kits selling allover because of Messi. He is just doing it for himself now, where before he did it for Qatar.



{Ed001's Note - simply not true. It was the Paris factor that brought in those players. I personally don't understand it as most of Paris is a stinking, horrible place and the good bits were copied from nice areas of England that Louis 3 saw while in exile. But Paris is why they bought the club and what their whole brand is built around. They were shifting huge numbers of merchandise anyway, the players added to it, but it was already a juggernaut.}

26 Jul 2025 13:07:51
I've had a skim of the replies and I wholeheartedly agree that Paris is an overrated dirty s***hole glossed over with some glitter.

Etienne the irony is spot on, and without PSR rules they'd create another cartel in English football by outbidding everyone else for the best talent.

@ Patrik Berger - PSR is only a problem insofar that it makes their growth more harder and slower, but it doesn't make it impossible. They've already soared from relegation survival to consistent European football within a few years because the owners initially instilled a solid football infrastructure, and all they need to do is keep doing what worked for them. PSR isn't perfect but no other financial regulation is, everything has trade offs. They can't afford to keep Isak (if money is his motivation) but it wasn't too long ago when we had to recruit top talents by finding diamonds in the rough. That's the fundamental point of PSR, it promotes robust club administration over hasty squad expenditure that potentially backfires.

What Newcastle need to do is continue their successful recruitment strategy and find a better manager than Eddie Howe. He's a good manager but he's not top level. PSR is understandable but too simple to blame.



 
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