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11 Jun 2023 18:22:58
Evening Ed’s. Appreciate everything you do on here. Quick Q. I assume todays reports of our supposed interest in James Ward-Prowse is nonsense cluckbait. He hasn’t been mentioned in Ed’s prior lists and doesn’t strike me as an LFC target but hey what do I know. Thanks and have a good evening.


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach by Liverpool but his agent is doing the rounds and Southampton are seeking significant transfer fees for players who are departing so he will be available.}

1.) 11 Jun 2023 19:19:21
Much obliged sir. Take care on your travels.

2.) 11 Jun 2023 20:20:01
Haha I can’t wait to see what VV has to say about this rumour he’ll be having kittens, although to be honest I personally don’t rate him apart from his free kicks I’m not sure what he could bring to the Liverpool table.

3.) 11 Jun 2023 20:21:28
How are as regards HG players quota now that Milner and Ox are leaving?

4.) 11 Jun 2023 21:41:04
He’s too slow/ low energy to play in Klopps midfield.

5.) 12 Jun 2023 02:37:03
Not what we need at all. Need younger, stronger, quicker, high energy, ball winners in the middle.

Set pieces are well and truly covered by TAA and now Mac Allister.

He'd also be a bit pricey as an English player.

Probably clickbait.

6.) 12 Jun 2023 13:15:52
Jeez Ward- Prowse now we are looking like a mid table club. He’s an average player with a great free kick and that’s it.

7.) 12 Jun 2023 14:50:56
English Charlie Adams, without the beer gut but just as slow and immobile. Sounds like lazy journalism as we tend to like a relegated player occasionally.



01 Jan 2023 19:11:36
Hi Ed’s. Any ongoing interest in Douglas Luiz from Villa from LFC?


{Ed002's Note - No.}

1.) 02 Jan 2023 07:49:27
Thank F for that. What a pointless squad signing he would be-exactly the type that blocks the pathways of young players whilst providing nothing.

IF LFC want to remodel themselves as a place where youth can flourish and develop, like Dortmund but up a few levels, Morton and the young spaniard need to play those games.

2.) 02 Jan 2023 08:27:09
Hoping for an improved performance from the red men today we will need it against an organised and very good team in Brentford .
We play to our best though and 3 points are easily attainable .
Konate and Fabinho to come in will help physically

Will gakpo get on Ed’s or has he not been cleared to play yet?

3.) 02 Jan 2023 08:54:19
Anyone know if Gakpo can play tonight?

{Ed002's Note - No he won't be able to play.}

4.) 02 Jan 2023 09:29:32
1st opportunity to play is against Wolves in the cup I believe.

5.) 02 Jan 2023 09:39:24
We will need to play much better than the Leicester game if we to beat brentford. They've great record against so called bigger teams as well. I'd like to see konate, fab and bajectic come in for matip, hendo and ox. put elliott to left, not his best position but prob still our best bet. Konate is a must we can't wait any longer to get him in.

6.) 02 Jan 2023 10:25:15
Agree on Konate, this is a game he needs to start for us in my opinion.

7.) 02 Jan 2023 10:26:42
Is Tony out injured? That would potentially help us.

{Ed001's Note - they said he should be fit to face us.}

8.) 02 Jan 2023 11:16:59
Thanks Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome.}

9.) 02 Jan 2023 11:31:08
Are we sure Gakpo can’t play? He’s available for this game week on fantasy football?

{Ed002's Note - Obviously he is available then.}

10.) 02 Jan 2023 11:52:20
Pretty sure that’s a sarcastic reply which I don’t think there’s any need for. Only reason I asked is that they are normally pretty accurate when it comes to availability. But, since my first post I’ve had a look and can now see why he is not expected to be available. Maybe you could have just explained instead of responding like that. No need.

{Ed002's Note - Why ask me if you have already been told he is available by your fantasy football team? Is it just to waste my time? Idiot.}

11.) 02 Jan 2023 12:10:36
I asked because there was no explanation above as to why he couldn’t play. Last I saw was a Klopp interview saying he could possibly make it. ---------Rubbish removed-------

{Ed002's Note - You should listen to Klopp and your fantasy football team and not bother me.}

12.) 02 Jan 2023 13:20:09
Nice to see we’re all getting along in 2023 already.

13.) 02 Jan 2023 14:21:07
Ed002 is it done the same way as Scotland (registering players)? I only ask because the Celtic right back is a new signing and he's playing in the Old Firm.

{Ed002's Note - Yes of course it is the same in Scotland. If it is the guy from Montral you are referring to everything was done in advance.}

14.) 02 Jan 2023 14:50:57
Would appear he has been registered Jonop1 ?.

15.) 02 Jan 2023 15:32:54
It was Ed002 and thanks for the reply.

16.) 02 Jan 2023 17:48:06
Brilliant. Replying to questions whilst saying in those replies it’s a waste of time and calling people out for it. Honestly lads just don’t bother.

{Ed002's Note - That suits me. I'll just delete more for you then.}

17.) 02 Jan 2023 17:49:37
Regardless thanks for the heads up.

18.) 02 Jan 2023 18:35:59
That would probably be best for everyone Ed002. Have a nice evening.



14 Jun 2022 19:30:37
Nunez taking number 27 by the look of it. Be grabbing that number 9 shirt off Bobbies back on his way out the door next year then!


1.) 14 Jun 2022 19:50:15
Get a few iconic goals this season in honour of the man who last wore that number.

2.) 14 Jun 2022 20:27:13
I think it’s a good move. I though he was going to wait for Mane’s number 10 but no need to add to the pressure by giving him his shirt.

3.) 14 Jun 2022 20:29:26
He hasn’t done the lean. Pics or it didn’t happen.

4.) 14 Jun 2022 21:11:27
Those jokes about the lean are getting boring.

5.) 14 Jun 2022 22:31:29
Aw you are no fun. We signed a big name. Enjoy it mate.

6.) 14 Jun 2022 23:22:14
We should just give him the number 10. He wants to be here. If Mane stays he has the 27.

7.) 15 Jun 2022 03:07:03

8.) 15 Jun 2022 05:47:56
Yes noski that’s what I was getting at. As soon as Bobby is off he’ll be grabbing that shirt quicker than ol’ Jose grabs a severance package.

9.) 15 Jun 2022 06:25:45
Knock knock.

Who s there?


Eileen who?

I lean on the wall, you can have the seat.

I make no apologies for another lean joke.

10.) 15 Jun 2022 08:16:56
@Davey - you sure that’s a joke mate ?.

11.) 15 Jun 2022 08:32:30
That's straight from my gold stuff WDW. Nothing but my best for this site.

12.) 15 Jun 2022 08:36:20
Westwood Bobby going nowhere mate. He going to retire with us.

13.) 15 Jun 2022 09:25:44
Nice one Davey ?.

14.) 15 Jun 2022 09:39:57
Keep the lean jokes coming ?.

15.) 15 Jun 2022 12:49:04
I think he’s going to be top class for us! Like when Torres came, just a feeling he’s really going to shine for Liverpool.



10 Jul 2021 09:47:36
Good Morning Ed’s.

Apologies if this has been raised elsewhere but I havnt seen. Reports about that Ben Davies wants to stay and JK personally asked him to do so. Assuming this is accurate which I am unsure about at best, are we looking to offload any of the CB’s on the books either permanently or on loan? If Williams is included as a senior we have 7 CB’s for 2 positions are surely need to trim the squad? Thoughts or insights appreciated as always.



{Ed002's Note - As has been explained, Nat Phillips is available to leave. Konate is a Gomez replacement but Gomez won't be sold. Ben Davies was a huge mistake but does not appear to be for sale.}

1.) 10 Jul 2021 10:59:49
Why is Ben Davies a huge mistake?

{Ed002's Note - His career has been stopped as Liverpool purchased him and did not play their youngsters. He has not played and midfield players have been picked ahead of him. A huge mistake and dreadful squad management again.}

2.) 10 Jul 2021 11:10:51
Thanks Ed. Very disappointing to hear. I very much hope positive decisions are made and both are allowed to move on to progress their careers.

3.) 10 Jul 2021 11:36:24
We needed cover, we signed him on deadline day of January. Season was over 4 months later, hardly a career ruiner. Both he aswell as the club were obviously happy to go along with the move which didn't exactly cost the club a fortune, they'll probably even turn a profit when selling.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool had youngsters they could use and also took a player on loan. The squad management has been poor and continues to be poor. So where does the player stand now?}

4.) 10 Jul 2021 11:40:43
It’s clear as day Klopp didn’t want Ben Davies. It seems we have a Rafa situation with Robbie Keane, signing a player he didn’t really want and then refusing to play him to send a message to the owners.

{Ed001's Note - nonsense. The lad got injured just after joining us, Williams and Phillips were in situ by the time he got back.}

5.) 10 Jul 2021 11:46:36
The player has this season to prove he is good enough to be kept beyond this season. That's where he stands based on what has been said in this thread. Sounds like he wants to stay to try make the most of the opportunity.

Klopp doesn't play every new player straight after signing. If Ben Davies isn't happy with how many games he plays this season then he can move on in January or at the end of the season. Not a big deal.

{Ed002's Note - The squad management continues to be very poor.}

6.) 10 Jul 2021 11:48:27
I imagine Williams will leave and we don’t know how the 3 injured players will recover. I think we need to keep an extra defender or 2 just in case. We can’t be playing the midfielders at the back again.

7.) 10 Jul 2021 12:18:26
Am sure Davies would have played if he wasn’t injured! Klopp can’t pick him if he’s on the treatment table can he.

8.) 10 Jul 2021 12:22:21
Not many squads could have dealt with the amount of injuries we did last season maybe none! So on that side squad management has been fantastic and we did use youngsters Williams and Philips (not so young) Elliotts loan also worked out well. But I do agree hanging on to some of the players we do that never get to see them me on the pitch is poor Tsimikas Origi Ox and Shaq never play. But hey If poor squad management wins champions leagues and premiership titles then carry on. Seriously though I do think a tidy up is needed a bit messy having all these players unsure of their futures.

9.) 10 Jul 2021 12:50:15
The central defenders that will be reporting for day 1 of pre season…
Ibrahima Konate, Virgil van Dijk, Joel Matip, Joe Gomez, Ben Davies, Rhys Williams, Nat Phillips, Billy Koumetio,

10.) 10 Jul 2021 13:05:37
To be fair, Ben Davies must have known that he wasn’t going to be a regular starter and at best 4 choice when he signed for us. Maybe if it wasn’t for his injury he might have had some game time, we will never know. I hope he gets a chance to prove himself, but either way, we need to offload some of the back up CBs.

11.) 10 Jul 2021 13:16:55
3 senior defenders going into the season with the hope of giving the youngsters games in the early rounds of the domestic cups. Due to almost unheard of bad luck through injuries we were left with no senior centreback by January with most experts giving us no hope of top 4.We then sign a talented kid on loan "without"an obligation to buy and a player for pennies from the championship who then gets injured. We then achieve top 4 with the loanee and probably our 6th choice centrehalf at the start of the season. Davies and Phillips will likely be sold now for a hefty profit while we bought one of the most promising defenders in the world, leaving us with a group of 4 Centrehalves better than anything in the league. Absolutely top class squad management to me.

{Ed002's Note - Rubbish - you don't understand the situation nor the Home Grown rules.}

12.) 10 Jul 2021 13:18:31
Keeping Davies as LCB cover will allow us to sell Phillips and loan Rhys. It's interesting that Ed001 and 002 seem to disagree on this point. The lad was unlucky with the injury, so Liverpool did use youngsters. Hope he can stay fit and get some game time so we can finally see what he can offer.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool used the likes of Henderson and Fabinho at CB. Ben Davies did not play a single game.}

13.) 10 Jul 2021 13:55:19
Were grand regarding home grown. Elliot and Jones aren't even counted yet even though they'll get plenty of games. Look Klopp pulled a blinder getting us top 4.Davies will get over it. Big drama about nothing.

{Ed002's Note - You are an idiot - Liverpool had a reduced Champions League squad last season.}

14.) 10 Jul 2021 14:33:48
So would you want us to have a 25 man squad. AND the likes of Neco, Jones, elliott?

{Ed002's Note - Williams won't be there but Liverpool will have to leave players out of their Champions League squad again or fix the problems.}

15.) 10 Jul 2021 14:41:44
Kelleher, Neco, Trent, Gomez, Ox, Hendo, Millie, Jones and Elliott for this season. grand. not counting jones is like Arsenal not counting Saka, or Utd not counting Grenwood. these players are senior players despite their age.

16.) 10 Jul 2021 14:43:45
If you were not pick ahead of rhys last seasons. Good luck trying to be picked next seasons.

17.) 10 Jul 2021 15:49:32
Ben Davies kept picking up injuries did he not? I mean surely it would have been worse management to play him at a level higher than he’s ever played before with a niggling injury?

{Ed002's Note - He made the bench a few times. But a pointless buy.}

18.) 10 Jul 2021 15:56:38
Reminds me of a buy a few years ago, one of the top 6 (cant think who) bought a 24 year old from some championship club. can't remember ever hearing of him again. Anyone remember who it was?

19.) 10 Jul 2021 16:18:04
Aaah it was Michal Hector bought by Josè at Chelsea.

20.) 10 Jul 2021 16:36:29
Nonsense Ed? Klopp was happy with a last minute championship defender? I’m not buying it. I’ll trust in Klopp’s squad management as well too thanks.

{Ed001's Note - ok you obviously know better. Or it could just be that you are as arrogant as you are ignorant and will dismiss anything that doesn't suit you.}

21.) 10 Jul 2021 17:31:43
Look he may stay or go. but at £1.6m for a player who had plenty of interest in him, and who will more than likely turn a nice profit when being sold his signing can hardly be classed as a "huge mistake".

22.) 11 Jul 2021 00:07:49
Last season players for CB position:

-VanDijk (INJURED)
-Gomez (INJURED)
-Matip (INJURED)
-Philips (Played 20 games)
-Rhys (Played 19 games)
-Ozan (Played 13 game)
-Davies (Played 0 Games)

This season

-Gomez (Likely yo play RB)
-Philips (Sell)
-Rhys (Loan)
-Davies (? ) Didn't play a single game and doesn't have a place in the team unless 3 players get injured at the same time.

{Ed002's Note - "His career has been stopped as Liverpool purchased him" - "He has not played" - "A huge mistake and dreadful squad management again"

{Ed002's Note - "Ben Davies was a huge mistake but does not appear to be for sale"

23.) 11 Jul 2021 15:16:01
The guy kept getting injured which tells me he prolly could not handle the type of training Klopp deploys. Also, we are forgetting that Kabak and Phillips formed a solid partnership for 8 games w/ o a loss so was Davies on the bench during that time? If he was then of course, he stays there. If he was injured at the same time then again, what’s the problem?

We may have issues with squad management but IMO, this whole storm in a tea cup about Davies is way overblown, IMO.



11 Aug 2016 00:11:49
Anyone know of or seen anything of this fullback Juanma we are supposedly signing?


1.) 11 Aug 2016 02:33:54
He's only 19 so he is probably not what you thought he was going to be.

2.) 11 Aug 2016 04:47:16
Confirmed signing after successful week trial for the U23 team, not first teamer yet and not expected to be this season. It's a left back, just not ready this season.

3.) 11 Aug 2016 08:47:32

4.) 12 Aug 2016 14:22:52
Chilwell was only 18/ 19.

5.) 12 Aug 2016 16:02:29
Watched him play for 60 minutes in the flesh for the U21's against MK Dons. He is very fast and utilised his speed to make a handful of recovery tackles. He also has a nice touch and is neat in possession. His positioning was very weak though and he over ran the ball on a few occasions. Looks a fairly decent, attacking young left back. Whilst I doubt he will get much if any first team action, with our complete lack of depth there, who knows.

6.) 13 Aug 2016 00:55:14
Would love him to be a dark horse and end up a first team regular a la Bellerin. Would certainly cure our left back headache.




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16 May 2024 05:54:18
Looks like VAR is being voted on then at the next PL club meeting. Personally I would not get rid of it, because if we do we'll all be complaining about the amount of offsides that would of been called but won't bez especially now the refs have got used to having that support.
No improvements on communication and removal of subjectivity need to be put i.


{Ed001's Note - forget offsides, they are not going to be included in this. There will be semi-automated offsides so that is not relevant. VAR is a terrible system which destroys the enjoyment of celebrating a goal, it needs to go.}

1.) 16 May 2024 07:24:17
Get rid of it, it's been a mess.

2.) 16 May 2024 07:27:59
I think after VAR, not many will be complaining about an on-field ref getting a few decisions wrong. It has sucked the last few joys left in football for me.

3.) 16 May 2024 07:51:13
Ed001, you are correct. That is the biggest problem with VAR.

4.) 16 May 2024 07:56:16
My only hope is that they don't then start looking at subjective offsides with the automated system. Like when Endo apparently blocked Colwill by standing still in the cup final. For me there are two ways to be offside; you are in an offside position and touch the ball, or you are in an offside position and block the keepers line of site. Everything else is just a convoluted nonsense. All this interfering with the defenders decision making or stopping them running back is horse ****. Defenders have enough advantages what with being able to wrestle players down in the box at set pieces, dive to get soft free kicks to break the press, obstruct the attacker to shield the ball out of play etc.

Got to scrap as much of VAR as possible. Goal line technology, automated offsides and mistaken identity for red/ yellow cards. Job done. That is ALL we ever needed.

5.) 16 May 2024 08:27:37
Not trying to be flippant here (hopefully it doesn’t come across that way), but how does semi automated offsides not also take the joy out of celebrating goals?

Eg goal goes in; players and fans celebrate; then semi auto offsides rule that the player was offside; goal is chalked off.

{Ed001's Note - that is the same as a flag going up. The difference is that it is not 3 minutes later, it is within seconds.}

6.) 16 May 2024 08:37:37
Won’t semi automated offsides spoil the celebrations of a goal or will it be immediate decision?

{Ed001's Note - be almost immediate yes.}

7.) 16 May 2024 08:59:17
Can't wait for the technology around semi-automated offsides to go wrong.

I'm probably in the minority who think that VAR in principle is a good idea. It's just not being implemented particularly well. They intermittently hide behind the 'clear and obvious error' directive to defend inaction, whilst at other times they correct what appear to be marginal decisions. And VAR refs make completely different calls from one week to the next which is mind-boggling.

I can understand that from an on pitch ref since they only have what they can see in front of them happening in real time, but from a guy who has multiple replays from multiple angles and slow mos, it's just not good enough. I'm not looking for refereeing perfection, but it should be possible to have broad consistency with VAR in place.

8.) 16 May 2024 09:31:01
I would only keep it for pens . but everyone knows sky etc will overdo every decision to the point of overkill. they only add to the problems . Some refs are awful but got to to let them ref games . we all jump up when we score n then sit back down to check if it's been called back for a var check . fun n excitement has all but gone.

9.) 16 May 2024 10:59:54
The semi automated offsides work in the CL and in Serie A that I know off. That thing is instant. As for VAR, I maintain that it is a good system that can be a lot better if people actually wanted it to work.

10.) 16 May 2024 13:54:47
Seconds are not the problem when it comes to celebrating a goal. Minutes are.
We've all celebrated a goal without realising that the whistle has gone or offside flag being raised but they're not the same as VAR.
I'm even waiting for VAR to intervene now. The moments that make football what it is are being lost.

11.) 16 May 2024 13:56:28
They aren't going to scrap VAR.

This is club's sending a message to Premier League and PGMOL about the performance this year. Its performative.

Webb should stand down. His leadership has been nothing short of shambolic.

12.) 16 May 2024 14:54:25
Getting rid of VAR would be insanity, people complaining about incorrect decisions would rather go back to putting the incorrect decisions back into the hands of the same people who run VAR. You just have to work out how to improve it, or restrict it for now till you can work out full proof methods.
And get these awful refs out of VAR booths, let some analyst run it and just advise the ref. at worst you can just the TMO like in rugby so they can have a chat and run the ref over to the screen and explain the rules to them.
Removing it doesn't fix the problem.

13.) 16 May 2024 09:21:19
Put ten refs in diffrent var rooms and play the same incident or offside and i would not be surprised that there would be ten diffrent outcomes and reasons.
In short var works but not with the people who use it .



14 Apr 2024 19:21:39
Well that's that then. Goodbye Klopp you absolute legend. Been great but I think he's spot on that there's nothing more that he can do for us based on how everything has fallen away the last few weeks. Hopefully Amorim can bring back some energy and good attacking football.


1.) 14 Apr 2024 19:54:32
It's more disappointing with the players we have and squad. Allison and virg aren't go into be here forever and we should have won more than we did and especially this season. The seasons not over yet but since the United fa cup game there's just a real tiredness to us now especially mentally. The constant going behind certainly doesn't help aided with the system. Klopp said post match trent came on and structurally we were better?! If klopp had stayed for another 4 years this inverted system was never going and the lack of width was never changing either. Robbo was fantastic today, it'd amazing when quaulty players play wide and put in some terrific crosses for players who are great in the air.

2.) 14 Apr 2024 20:46:49
This inverted fullback system does nothing against teams that sit in. We should be trying to open the pitch up. Our outball right is konate when Trent plays inverted, madness.

3.) 14 Apr 2024 21:18:20
I had made a couple of posts where I hoped that we would go back to basics tactically after trying to out-tactic the opposition over the last few weeks, but frustratingly Klopp had other ideas again.

Also, it was clear Endo/ Macca were exhausted on Thu. To start them both was surprising.

As it stands, it looks like the season and Klopp era is going to go out with a whimper - even with Arsenal's defeat.

4.) 15 Apr 2024 02:17:17
We created enough chances in the last 2 prem games to win 10 games, but if we don't have a proven goalscorer anymore what are we going to do. Mo hasn't been the same since the hamstring injury and for as much chaos as he causes, Darwin isn't that guy. We need a 20+ in the league goal machine and we need a settled central defensive partnership.

5.) 15 Apr 2024 03:02:40
100% our biggest issue. Nunez is not the answer, I think he could work on the left wing if Diaz were to leave but he is no way a striker out and out.
We need an injury free forward that can take his chances when they are presented.
I like Osmihen but probably beyond our budget.
Isla is also an upgrade.

{Ed001's Note - Osimhen misses as many as Nunez, so does Haaland. All strikers miss sitters, I can remember Rush kneeing one over from inside the 6 yard box with an open goal. That is not our biggest issue, it is the quality of chances we are creating that is the problem. Every single shot the box is full of opposition players, we no longer get in behind, we don't drag their defenders out of position, so they can get bodies in the way. While that happens, the chances of a shot finding the back of the net are massively reduced. How many 1-on-1s did we get against Palace? I think it was 1 if I remember correctly. And that fell for Jones. We are getting off lots of shots, but rarely are we getting open space to aim at.}

6.) 15 Apr 2024 06:44:13
I think it was V V in the chat who said ‘Nunez has the touch of an axe murderer’. Hard to argue with that observation.
For a £90m striker his technique is poor. It feel like he’s always snatching at chances, head down and smash it as hard as he can - the knock down from the corner being an example. 5 yards out, smash it at the keepers knee. He didn’t have a lot of time but take a second and try and miss the keeper.
He doesn’t time his runs well either, there are a lot of offsides.
For me, he’s not good enough technically but I completely appreciate his good points - pace, strength, tenacity, work rate. I get it why people appreciate him, this is no slight on them, he just needs to be better.
His transfer fee does him no favours.

7.) 15 Apr 2024 07:07:21
Who's great in the air?

8.) 15 Apr 2024 07:14:26
I'm with Ed001. I think Nunez has been incredibly unlucky to not score more than he has this season. Yes he 'smashes' the ball slot but most of the time in football those go in. No Nunez is not the problem. He's a 24 YO striker who has everything in his locker and will this year and ongoing be a 20 goal a season striker minimum. The tactics and lack of width when teams sit deep is what does us. So sick of watching us play short passes around the 30 years mark from oppos goals, all within the width of the 18 yard box. So easy to defend, press and counter against.
Klopp has been amazing but as I said 2 years ago the persistence of backing Peps style with this slow possession based inverted system is woeful. Feels like he has betrayed the original version of him to be frank. It's the right time to leave and let someone else (Amorim fingers crossed) have a crack.

9.) 15 Apr 2024 07:39:44
At some point during the international break we decided to try and become Brighton.

Neil from Anfield Wrap asked why does it seem like we continuously use the first half as a fact finding mission. Are we not doing our opposition analysis anymore? Or are we being arrogant and choosing to start with a handicap?

Ed001, is right about the chance types for the forwards. Crowded boxes, scrambles or difficult angles.

10.) 15 Apr 2024 09:00:50
I disagree with the quality of the chances.

Look at the goals we concede. They are not always clear 1-1 chances. There are a lot of crowded penalty areas (yesterday) .
I think of some of the Atalanta goals, some of the Man U goals.
How much easier does it get than 5 yards out with just the keeper in front of you?

I don’t need a striker who can score open goals, I expect them to be able to score other types of goals. Like the ones we concede.

{Ed001's Note - but we do not have bodies in the way, everyone is just stood off, no one is closing down. Our opposition are throwing themselves into the challenge, getting their bodies in the way, rather than standing off and waiting.}

11.) 15 Apr 2024 09:49:21
Well that is certainly true Ed, we have bodies all around them but they aren’t trying as hard to block the shots.

{Ed001's Note - that is a problem all over the pitch, the press is non-existent and no one is closing down and getting in people's faces. Most of the time the only one trying is Endo and it is easy to bypass one player. It is so sad to see the season petering out this way.}

12.) 15 Apr 2024 09:54:02
Robbo was our best player yesterday and terrific the first half. I don't believe if i remember he did the same second half which was a great option for us. Very poor decisions from the staff.

13.) 15 Apr 2024 17:12:39
Ed, is it the exhaustion of a long season that is now showing it's ugly face, or specifically how we have set the team up which is making is turgid?

{Ed001's Note - we have gone back to the way the team was being set up to play this season. It is nothing to do with exhaustion.}

14.) 15 Apr 2024 20:37:57
thanks Ed, so it's back to the inverted RB schtick that basically nullifies any width in play and focusses on possession?

{Ed001's Note - yes.}



04 Mar 2024 20:50:46
Sly reporting that Bayern have opened discussions with Alonso and have received a positive response to the possibility of joining them over LFC, as following Klopp would be "too difficult".
I personally doubt their is any truth in this (eds? ) as why would he get into a chat, direct or indirect, with the main rival to winning the league with his current team? Also, whilst, disappointing if true, anyone that is afraid to follow Klopp definitely should not be the manager.
Hope it's all nonsense but no smoke without fire in my book.


1.) 04 Mar 2024 22:17:17
for me not really going to be paying attention to anything in the media that suggest who is more likely or whatever. not saying they don't have any inside oil, but just not sure how helpful it's going to be to follow each article as it changes week to week.

In general I'd agree that the next manager who doesn't want the challenge would be the wrong manager to take over.

2.) 04 Mar 2024 22:49:10
Have this dreadful feeling we’re going to end up with dross like DeZerbi.

3.) 04 Mar 2024 22:54:17
I would imagine Xabi’s focus will be fully on Leverkusen right now, and rightly so.

4.) 04 Mar 2024 22:58:01
Same way as we ended up with Sander Berge and Adama Traore right?

5.) 04 Mar 2024 23:38:06
Bayern based Media doing anything they can to distract Leverkusen from winning the title imo.

This story has many more chapters before it is settled once and for all.

6.) 04 Mar 2024 23:41:53
Don't forget Mount as well! We did get Grav though so at least VV got that right.

But all joking aside, I can relate to the worry that VV has. It's going to be a monumental task replacing Klopp and we need to get it spot on if we want to continue competing. Get it wrong and we may very much end up like how we were pre-klopp.

7.) 04 Mar 2024 23:55:10
It'll all be nonsense, nobody knows anything right now.

8.) 05 Mar 2024 06:12:01
Think it will be nagelsmann to be honest, think people are nailing alonso to be the next manager, got to keep an open mind so not to be disappointed.

9.) 05 Mar 2024 06:16:31
Can’t think that Alonso would be so disrespectful to agree to anything while trying to win the League with BL, especially a team and competition from the same country.
That said I don’t think it’s a given that he’ll manage Liverpool, regardless of how many times he has said he wants to manage us or who his kids support.

10.) 05 Mar 2024 07:03:25
I feel sorry for leverkusan in all this, on verge of winning 1st ever league title and everyday 1 story r another about there manager. Even tho they continueing to win bound to be a distraction and destabilising.

11.) 05 Mar 2024 07:39:13
I'm leaning the same way fatwallet. I think people are so focussed on Alonso that they're overlooking JN. He is a top coach, gets on with Klopp and also the timings work out with him leaving his current role in the summer.
It's being reported the compensation fee to get Alonso would be over £20m, could be a factor.

12.) 05 Mar 2024 07:48:39
To be fair FSG listened to advice when they brought a Jurgen in. They did a good job there so hopefully they can do it again.

13.) 05 Mar 2024 08:08:37
I've the feeling that we will get a dof before a manager. The club will purchase players and sell a few.
The new manager possibly Nagelsman then we struggle due to having the wrong players for the system he wants to play.
All in all it will take 4 or so transfer windows if he's given time to get us back up the league.

14.) 05 Mar 2024 08:11:48
German media talking about a german team getting the manager whos currently top of the german league.

15.) 05 Mar 2024 08:15:15
Are we looking at thiago motta eds in case alonso doesn't come or even hansi flick or what's people's opinions of them, motta seems to be doing a great job at bologna and flicks style seems similar to klopps heavy metal football.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

16.) 05 Mar 2024 09:39:46
Very much doubt the team going for their 1st ever Bundesliga would be allowing their manager to talk to the team also going for the title. talk about conflict of interests, would be amazed if this is true.

17.) 05 Mar 2024 09:40:38
It’s clickbait I wouldn’t give it any credibility whatsoever.

I could report that he’s leaning towards Liverpool because he doesn’t want to play against Leverkusen. Makes perfect sense but doesn’t make it true.

Likewise I could say he wants to stay at Leverkusen and defend his title.

The truth is nobody knows and Alonso is unlikely to make any decisions until he’s lifted the title. Rightly so.

18.) 05 Mar 2024 10:18:44
Agreed BP, he should just be left alone until he wins the title. Let them enjoy it.

19.) 05 Mar 2024 10:22:21
Our job is to concentrate on this season. Beat them lot on Sunday.

20.) 05 Mar 2024 10:23:02
WDW3, It's been reported that Theo Epstein (title winning ex-manager of Boston Red Sox and new partner in FSG) is heading the search for Klopp's replacement. Given that he doesn't have any background in football (the round kind and not the egg shaped kind), I imagine he is consulting with experts and being aided by some trusted people in the organization.

As far as Alonso is concerned, I think people are placing too much emphasis on Alonso's history with the club and what he's said to the media. I think Bayer Leverkusen getting what they want will be crucial, and I think that all managers are very media-savvy nowadays and will always use it to further their agendas. Given the "Manager of the Year" performance Klopp is delivering at the moment, it's going to take someone with supreme self-confidence to want to come in, given that expectations will be sky high and he'll be expected to "hit the ground running". And I doubt a new manager will be given the 2-3 years Klopp was given to right the ship, since the team is in very good shape right now.

21.) 05 Mar 2024 11:22:31
Exactly, Beckers pecker. If you were a journalist, that scenario you said would be more than believable even tho, you just made it up out of thin air. Typical clickbait nonsense to drive clicks and conversation.

IMO, nobody knows anything about anything hence, a lot of guess work and if Paul Joyce ain't saying nothing then, it means there is nothing to see here. We're all going to have to sit tight, be patient and wait for the actual news to drop. It is what it is. And I hope it's Alonso.

22.) 05 Mar 2024 12:07:54
I don't see Alonso coming immediately after winning the title with BL. It seems too short a time at a club before taking over at an ‘elite’ club., too fast a career trajectory. My money is on him staying at Leverkausen a few years and then taking the Madrid job. I have a hunch we will get Nagelsmann (and i wouldn't be overly disappointed either) .

23.) 05 Mar 2024 12:09:19
BP/ Salah - I actually think the opposite, I think Alonso's agent will ver much much better in discussions at this point in time, leaving Alonso to focus on BL.
Any type of process like this would likely take several weeks if not months anyone, so leaving it until he has lifted the title would not really benefit him or LFC as he would want as much time with a new team as possible before the new season.
Whoever the manager will be, most of the T&C's would likely be sorted before the end of the season if all goes well I would think.

24.) 05 Mar 2024 12:29:56
11 managers at Bayern in Klopps time here, like Coutinho and others know, go somewhere and be forgotten or come here and be a legend, loved and worshiped by fans, its a no brainer, he wants to come and will do, don't be disappointed if Almorin was to come either, we know how our business goes sometimes, especially when it comes to finances.

25.) 05 Mar 2024 14:38:54
Last year we all nailed our hopes to Bellingham coming and it didn’t come to fruition.

Just out of interest only because I don’t have a clue myself and would like to hear others. Say if we couldn’t get Alonso who would be fans next option.

26.) 05 Mar 2024 15:50:07
I'm struggling to think of an alternative, JK23. I'm not an expert on European football, so I wasn't looking beyond Alonso. Ruben Amorim is well thought of, but I know nothing about him. He sounds like a Chelsea appointment to me. It will get to the stage where we will be hoping for Lijnders!

27.) 05 Mar 2024 16:00:07
I personally would love Alonso to manage us. I feel like he has unfinished business here as he left so abruptly.

I also think all of the names we are being linked with in the media have come from Ed002s notebook.

Amorim has done a great job with Sporting, winning their first title in 19 years (echoes of Klopp) .

Arne Slot lost out on the league in 2020 with AZ on goal difference, then led Feyenoord to the league title last season, in his second season as their manager. However Feyenoord were disappointing in the Champions League, losing to Celtic, the only team in their group to do so. On the flip side, using aggregate scores they would have beaten both Celtic and Lazio. He only extended his contract last May but football management and contracts are a funny business. Jury is definitely out on him for me. Very risky.

Nagelsmann seems to be a really convenient choice. He is bright, crazily young (36! Just how? ) and did a great job at Hoffenheim (age 28) and then Leipzig (age 31), taking the former to the Champions League for the first time ever in their history and the latter to the Champions League knock-out phase for the first time in their history.

Now this is where it gets strange. The season after winning the league and DFL-Supercup, Kahn and Salihamdžić decided to sack him when he had a 100% win rate in the Group stages of the Champions League and 1 point behind the league leaders Dortmund.

A crazy sacking in my opinion, just days before they could have de-railed Man City’s treble challenge (no conspiracy theories please) and precedented the downturn of the club’s fortunes this season and the eventual sacking of both Kahn and Salihamdžić from the board on the same day.

He finished in Bayern with a points average only bettered by Pep, Flick and Ancelotti. No mean feat.

Style of play is very similar to Klopp, although his affair with the journalist from the Bild is not a good look. Does one mistake make him a bad bet? His resume is more of a concern. 3 years in first role, 2 years in second, less than 2 years in third. Is he going to stick around?

28.) 05 Mar 2024 16:01:10
JK, absolutely no idea. I think it's such a gamble this day and age, no real guarantees. I remember when Klopp came in it was very 50/ 50 as Ancelotti was also in the frame. I myself was leaning towards Ancelotti at the time but look how that turned out!
Personally, I would like to see Alonso given a go, but if not, Julian Nagelsmann would be interesting.

29.) 05 Mar 2024 16:22:47
Like you Rome1977!, I have no idea cos I know want nothing to do with Naggelsmann nor DeZerbi at all. People say Amorim but I don't know that much if anything at all about him.

30.) 05 Mar 2024 16:34:58
Good news is that football insider are also saying their senior source says Alonso prefers Bayern move to Liverpool and they never get anything right. Literally nothing.

Sounds like a move to Liverpool is still on.

31.) 05 Mar 2024 16:34:58
Good news is that football insider are also saying their senior source says Alonso prefers Bayern move to Liverpool and they never get anything right. Literally nothing.

Sounds like a move to Liverpool is still on.

32.) 05 Mar 2024 17:19:44
Aray I think it’s quite the opposite.

Anyone who goes into Bayern Munich next season will be expected to win the league. In fact nothing else will do.

Whoever comes into Liverpool will be given time to put their stamp on the club and the team given what a huge character Klopp is. Anyone expecting someone to come in and ‘hit the ground running’ at Liverpool is just not very clever.

Bayern is a win or nothing club, Tuchel has lost his job for coming second. I just don’t see the following Klopp argument as a realistic one. If you’re concerned about that then you don’t have a clue about this club and don’t belong here anyway.

33.) 05 Mar 2024 18:28:29
JK - Can't see past Naggelsmann if Alonso doesn't want it.

34.) 05 Mar 2024 23:19:35
Beckers Pecker I hadn’t realised that the bundesliga had ended 3 weeks ago when it was announced that Tuchel was leaving? Or are Leverkusen over 30 points in front of Bayern and unable to be caught up since there’s 10 games left?

Tuchel isn’t being sacked for coming second (since that’s not even confirmed yet ?) it’s due to disagreements both with the board and with members of the squad.

The whole Alonso will get time at Liverpool, so if he were to drop out of the top 4 and finish 5 or 6 after Klopp potentially winning the Quadruple you think everything will still be sunshine and rainbows?

35.) 05 Mar 2024 23:48:05
If we don't get Alonso (which I believe we will) it's going to really concern me because I don't think there is anybody else out there to suit this club right now. In a few years that may well change but at this moment in time, Alonso is the perfect fit for Liverpool.



28 Jan 2024 01:13:23
Right so I am looking ahead massively but bare with me. Let's say we have Alonso at the helm next season. He plays a 3421 with wing backs, double pivot and two sort of 10's/ inside forwards either side of the central striker like we do now but a bit wider to make room for the wingbacks.
I think this could be really good for our squad, GK, defence and wingbacks positions fill themselves. Nunez and Jota for striker duties, and the 10/ inside forward positions can be filled by Gakpo, Diaz, Salah and maybe even Elliot and a way back into the squad for Carvalho perhaps? Szob and Macca can both play that role.


1.) 28 Jan 2024 04:08:36
How long do we have to bare with you, Westwood? Im getting cold mate ;)

2.) 28 Jan 2024 08:41:03
Hit send too early then fell asleep lol. Basically I don't think our midfielders fit Alonso's style as he plays a double pivot and we have lots of B2B players. I can see an overhaul happening if he does come.

3.) 28 Jan 2024 08:49:53
Westwood based on the analysis, Xabi is very adaptable with his tactics so although he plays 3 at the back, it could simply mean that this is due to the players he has and the system that works for them esp. since before Leverkusen, Xabi played a back 4 system. For ex., I do not rate Jonathan Tah as a CB cos he is not good enuff individually, IMO. Now if he played in a back 4 like he had been doing, he is not the best indiviually in that role. However in a back 3, he is not as exposed and his flaws can be hidden. That's just my assessment.

Therefore should he come to us, I don't think he will stick with a back 3 esp. if the defenders we have have played in a back 4 for near a decade and most importantly, we may not have the personel to play a back 3 cos well IMO, we don't and have never had it. Just my take.

4.) 28 Jan 2024 08:58:14
Before the rise of Endo 8 thought we should be playing double pivot with any of macca, Jonez, Szobo and Gravenberch together. Those players are adaptable.

The owners should be looking to bring in a manager to be able to work with the majority of this playing group. A major overhaul would be a disaster transition imo.

5.) 28 Jan 2024 09:43:33
OR, I’ve a slightly different view
I do think we have the players, especially defenders to play 3-4-2-1
But agree with you that, do we need to? As long as we have top level VVD, I think we can play 2v2 in defence all day long so a back 4 with flying fullbacks May work better for us

Regardless, I’d Xabi is the next manager, I’m sure he’ll figure a way to get the best out of the players

If it’s someone else, I do hope he has the nuance to bring out the full potential of the players too.

6.) 28 Jan 2024 13:14:14
Sgynwa, that's fair enuff on the personal for the back 3 and I do agree that we don't need to change it and Xabi is intelligent enuff to realise this, I hope.

And @Faith said, we need to hire a manager who fits with the players and system (to some extent) that we currently (2 v 2 and flying FB's, the press etc. ) and should Xabi be the guy, I am very hopeful he will do this and NOT rip the whole thing up and start again.

Now if someone else comes in, this would be my fear.



21 Jan 2024 19:27:38
Great performance. Could it be that we are actually starting to get good at this possession style stuff? I won't count my chickens but elated for Nunez at the double whilst also happy Jota continues to prove his doubters wrong.
We look so much better when playing with traditional fullbacks so let's hope Trent's experiment has ended and he either moves into midfield or stays at RB. I hope for the former and to have Bradley and Ramsey Duke it out for the starting spot.


1.) 22 Jan 2024 02:16:47
It looked like Gomez was inverting a bit from the left, or did I make that up?

{Ed001's Note - no you didn't, he was very much inverted from the left.}

2.) 22 Jan 2024 04:51:07
Ed1, It seems like the fullback now know when its time to invert and when it is not. We also seems to be moving the ball faster now with more urgency compared to early season. Konate also seems to be able to play long balls just like Van Dijk. That just what I seen but you know a lot more than me Ed, so I could be wrong.

3.) 22 Jan 2024 07:34:26
That Kluivert tackle on Diaz is a red card right Ed? Wonder why VAR didn't anything about it. It look worse than Curtis one.

{Ed001's Note - not sure what a red card is any more. If going over the ball is now being rescinded, then who knows what is a red?}

4.) 22 Jan 2024 08:14:41
I think the Kluivert challenge looked quite nasty but personally i don’t think it’s a red card. But I don’t think Jones was a red card either or Calvert Lewins or a number of other red cards that have been given this season. It feels like the officials just decide at the time and there’s no actual precedence set.

I’ve seen the conspiracy that PGMOL are out to get us but if that’s the case they could have easily have sent Gomez and Bradley off yesterday for two
Offences that weren’t red cards but could have been given as them if these brown envelopes have Been passed.

That’s how corruption works but it looks more like incompetence and inconsistency throughout the league not just us.

{Ed002's Note - There is no corruption - try not to keep making embarrassing statements - or take them to another site.}

5.) 22 Jan 2024 09:02:36
Ed002 my comment is saying there isn’t corruption and it’s more incompetence and inconsistency.

6.) 22 Jan 2024 09:46:36
@Ed01, you can blame Darren England's incompetence for why we do not know what a red card is anymore. He is the one who used a freeze frame in his VAR image (against VAR protocol) to improperly influence the ref to give Jones the red at Spurs after the ref had correctly (IMO), given a yellow cos clearly it was an accident after Jones slipped over the ball, just like Kluivert was shoved in the back towards Diaz which at the end of the day, both were accidents.

Now when the same things happen like yesterday or with Malo Gusto in the Chelsea/ Fulham game on Willian and no red is given, you get the outcry and rightfully so. The PGMOL in their bid to defend the indefensible, have now fallen into the trap they laid for themselves after the Spurs game. I blame them for all this hoopla.

7.) 22 Jan 2024 10:44:33
Exactly what I thought as I read your comment JK23.




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15 Jun 2024 11:26:40
Thanks Ed002. Is it the interview comments that make you say Sepp has burnt bridges with the club? I only ask as Ed001 said that was taken out of context, so I'm a little confused? Is he actively looking for a new club or LFC actively looking to offload him?
Sorry if this has already been covered in detail and have a good weekend.


{Ed002's Note - Sepp van den Berg (CB) He likely won't get a chance as a starter at Liverpool and will most likely be sold in the summer to raise funds if a buyer can be found - could be a mistake by the club but the player has taken the position that he wants to move. There is no release clause for Mainz but they will have a a first pick option if he were to be sold - and they have made their interest known and will look for an option to buy the player who has had a great season. They have already held talks with Liverpool. Brentford, Southampton and Wolfsburg offer options. Will need to speak to the club and see what other options he has, but he certainly burned bridges in an interview with De Telegraaf.}



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31 May 2024 13:18:46
To be honest based on how Gravs performances started to improve with limited game time and Szlob's tailed off despite playing most games I'd say Szob is further down the pecking order than Grav right now.

That said I think both have very high ceilings and wouldn't be moving either on.




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30 May 2024 00:28:21
Well said Navy.




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29 May 2024 00:01:07
You get the occasional gem from there LFC8, but I understand the concern. It's always a risk buying from other leagues but our recruitment team is stats driven, and I have to assume that will include time taken on the ball and amount of touches on average taken before passing etc.

So I would like to think we would only consider players that have shown they can match the PL pace or have the potential to. Kuyt, Suarez, Hyypia and Gakpo haven't been too bad plus if you look for a list of all the players to have come from the Dutch league to England there are some proper belters on there. Don't let the likes of Klaasan and Donny make you think it's all bad.




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22 May 2024 20:51:20
Doak not a Salah replacement, on what grounds? That he hasn't played much at top level when he's what? Just turned 18 and been called up to his national side? Well Salah didn't play first team football in the Egyptian leagues until he was 18 and started playing for Basle in Switzerland when he was 20, starting to play for Egypt around the same time. At 22 he went to Chelsea, failed, and only really became a worldie in his mid twenties with us. Far too early to say Doak can't replace Salah. He might be rubbish he might be great. You can't tell when he's barley kicked a ball for christs sake.





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20 Jun 2024 19:43:43
I always liked Shaqiri. He's got that X-Factor to light up a game that not many players possess, sort of like Origi or Litmanen, not the best all round players, but you could rely on him to come on and make something happen. We have some great players in the squad but not enough of that sort in my opinion, probably why everyone loves Nunez's 'chaos' factor. It's a bit different from the normal bore off play it safe rubbish that seems to be permeating every facet of the game at the moment. Take a risk, do something mad, when it doesn't work 9/ 10 everyone says your rubbish but when it works oh man it's great. It's that unpredictability that makes me love footy and I don't think there's enough of it around anymore.
Wow that got semi emotional, all from reminiscing about the little Swiss fella with superhero legs lol.




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17 Jun 2024 12:18:08
He genuinely looks like a special talent that is incredibly humble and more importantly looks to just be expressing himself and having fun, which I think is a problem in England especially having very talented players get their creativity and love for the game coached out of them for the sake of pragmatism. LFC fan or not JB is an absolute joy to watch play and talk so openly and genuinely. Far to little of it these days and we just be happy he is proud to wear the England shirt. He genuinely makes me want to watch England games again.




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17 Jun 2024 12:14:11
Yeah he shouldn't be playing for England as a midfielder no doubt. Irony is I have always banged the drum about him being in midfield (pretty sure I said I would die on that hill tbh! ) but based on yesterday yeah maybe he should just stay at RWB and be given the support and cover to protect his defensive frailties. Or perhaps in the same way we shouldn't wax lyrical about a player for having one amazing game he shouldn't be too harsh about one average game - a swallow doesn't mean its summer as Ed025 would say but that works both ways doesn't it. either way I'm not going to comment anymore on where Trent should play because I genuinely don't know anymore. Glad it isn't my decision to make.




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17 Jun 2024 07:12:21
He did no worse than anyone else on the pitch in my opinion. Made a couple of good interceptions and when he has time on the ball his vision and passing was good.
He didn't really 'get about' though if that makes sense? He wasn't showing for the ball often enough and spent long spells hiding in my opinion.
Really don't know what to make of Trent to be honest. I really hope he can pick a position and work on it because I don't think he's a defender so if he doesn't make it in midfield I don't see how he starts. Such talent though.


{Ed025's Note - spot on Westwood but is he really a talent?, great crosser and has a good shot on him....but thats it!, cant head the ball, very weak positionally and cant where does he fit in??, a local lad who i really want to do well but i just dont see it mate im sorry..



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13 Jun 2024 17:51:41
I'm a manager and think Trent should be a midfielder.
Not a football manager or a particularly good one mind but a manager nonetheless!




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