10 Nov 2025 09:56:26
ED001, few question for you if ok .1 Wirtz, we know he is quality but looks weak n slow, is it confidence or does Slot not know what to do with him. 2, why on earth is Konate playing every single game, it is mistake after mistake, while is general play is terrible, he makes the whole defence nervous, 3, the midfield is non existent, we have 3 quality midfielders who'd get in most top teams, what is wrong with it .
n finally 4, Slot, I was a fan n thought he's the manager we need n want but I think he's got till xmas to try n salvage a top 4 place . never known a drop off in performance n expectation in all my years of watching us.
{Ed001's Note - 1. bit of both. Not sure he does look slow though.
2. no idea, he should have been replaced in the summer.
3. tactics. They don't work.
4. I am not sure what the question is here?}
10 Nov 2025 12:31:33
So many people are worried about Wirtz and rightly so but let's not forget the quality this lad has. I have no doubt in my mind he will be one of our star players pretty soon, under slot or another manager is the real question.
10 Nov 2025 12:49:19
For me @Strom, I don't think Wirtz is weak nor slow. Wirtz even tho he has been good in several games this season, his poor/ average performances are a microcosm of the way the whole team is playing poorly esp. in the ones where we perform badly like vs City. I don't think you simply cannot separate the two.
Cos if Wirtz was our only issues then, we wouldn't be in the position that we're in. Again, you cannot separate the two.
10 Nov 2025 12:51:01
Salah has to be dropped now. He’s been told not to track back which was a weird decision for yesterday’s game given it’s City. I thought we learnt our mistake with that against Chelsea. Rewind last year to the game at the Etihad and he was tracking back and working all game.
He’s offering nothing in an attack sense so the least he needs to do is track back and help the RB out. I love him but he’s a hindrance at present and we have attacking players who can offer more in that position currently and will work harder.
Joe needs to be given his chance at CB again also, Konate is just awful at present. At least by giving Joe a run he can get up to speed. He and. Rig were great in thta title winning season under Klopp.
10 Nov 2025 12:55:34
He and Virg I meant.
10 Nov 2025 13:55:50
Mentioned Wirtz because I too think he's class . n can't understand how we haven't fitted him in properly, is that down to team selectionsor jow were asking him to play . I know its a new tougher faster league but he's easily knocked off the ball. I think we should be all in to help in . if that's a weights programme or whatever.
10 Nov 2025 13:57:37
Konate is the fault of Hughes and Edwards. It's astonishing to, if there's still a contract infront of him. He's been abysmal. Not only that though, he's not good on the ball. Pep wanted to highlight that to the world yesterday.
There's no excuses for not having a top cb playing alongside virg. They tried to be cute getting geuhi for a lower price and we've paid the price. There were others available in world football.
10 Nov 2025 14:00:26
If Wirtz plays better then the team plays better, surely. And no one said that Wirtz is our only issue but I am struggling to think of the several good games he has had for us.
When you're spending over £100m on a player, you expect them to have a big influence on the team but we have two and they have not shown up.
Yet.
It's not been easy for the new signings but they should be making us play better and not be waiting for us to play better to show their worth.
They have got time on their side though even if some won't allow Slot that luxury.
10 Nov 2025 13:44:23
ED001.soz question 4 is not clear. I was thinking he's got till xmas to sort this . was meaning with the expectation of this year after being champs . the drop off is unbelievable. we've got from a feared team to one we see playing now .
even everyone on here has a different opinion on what's wrong . manager, players, systems etc . its gone that bad no one can really pinpoint it.
{Ed001's Note - it is a tough one, normally I prefer to give time, especially as he did so well last season but this has been so horrific that it is looking like time is the last thing we need to give him. It is like he learnt so much last season but all of it wrong.}
10 Nov 2025 15:37:21
Swapping Konate for Gomez or Endo doesn’t change a thing. We’ll still have centre backs who are repeatedly exposed due to having no midfield to protect them, Gomez last outing was against Palace at Anfield and he was poor, far worse than Konate by some distance, there’s an argument for this being tactical issues and partly personnel, the midfield looks fragmented and disorganised (and that’s being generous), we give opponents acres of space to run through at our defence, our full backs tuck too far in and don’t trouble wide players, our midfielders neither protect the centre backs or offer support to the full backs, and that’s without saying we do need a top class defensive midfielder who has a bit got steel about him, as we are physically beaten in every duel in midfield.
As January is a long way off and I don’t think we’ll go for a midfielder at this point, I’d say give Bajcetic a chance when he’s fit, him and Gravenberch sat in front of the defence strangling the life out of the opposition attacks. With either Szoboszlai or Mac Allister as the third man. We do need to be more compact in the middle, make it hard to get to our defence. As it is everyone just seems to run around doing their own thing with absolutely no discipline. I don’t want Slot to be sacked, but if this shower of rubbish keeps on I don’t see any other answer in the medium term.
10 Nov 2025 17:27:20
Thanks for the replies ED001.
{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate.}
10 Nov 2025 18:30:00
Not a prob, @Strom. I see your overall point (s) .