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26 Jan 2026 13:01:23
Is this team really as good as we think it is? Question to ponder.
Last year, virg was mostly outstanding and salah contributed the most with goal contributions. Both are now in vast decline, that's reguardless of slot.
Is there real quality throughout the first team? I'm not soo sure. Seymenyo and guehi were needed and would have went straight in. So what does that say about the summer we face?
The club needs 3 cb's. Virg should be sold with salah. There's question marks at LB. Kerkez has not lit the world alight and our back ups are in limbo, who also are 2 levels below the standard required.


Right back, we've one proper full back. That's Bradley and he's still a question mark especially now with a big injury.
Midfield? Doms the shoe in. We need imo 2 top midfielders. A proper 6 is needed now and another the likes of a Wharton.
Up top, we're short in the wide positions. Gakpo and salah look like they'll both be sold.
The squads not right and needs several players again in the summer. Such poor squad management all around.



26 Jan 2026 14:01:49
Maverick, this team was champions 6 months ago n won it easily, we should have bought a CB n a holding MID, Salah isn't playing well because Slot has changed a winning system to this drab boring football, we all know how Salah likes to play, he can't go from one of his best sesons ever to this without the change we have made, we should have played to his strengths for one more year.

we have a great team just needs someone with a clue on how to use it.



26 Jan 2026 14:29:21
Strom. We collectively played decent up until late last March but virg and salah were the biggest performers and key to our success. They've both fell off a cliff, we're unbalanced up top. We're short in midfield and we needed two top CB'S.

We signed an Italian kid who suffered a horrible injury. Slot has been a big disappointment but Hughes should be shown the door as well in the summer for this squad situation.



26 Jan 2026 14:50:19
So it is also Slot's fault that Mo can't hit a barn, let alone its door?

The drop off with him has been unexpected, same with Virg, but two massive reasons for the leakier defence and the inability to win more.

Ibou has been more lapse prone than ever before and the failure to land Guéri was not Smot's fault.

I am all for the club not paying more than they feel is fair value so comfortable with "missing out" on him and Semenyo but more immediate alternatives should have been pursued.

Tactics are all on Arne but there is a bigger picture and revisionism that reduces the achievement of last season are disrespectful.



26 Jan 2026 15:15:41
Slot has much to be blamed for, but the cr*p form of Salah isn't one of them.



26 Jan 2026 15:25:35
PD. Salah n VVD were are best players last year, you just don't go from top tier to rubbish in 6 months, Slah hardly gets the service like last year n VVD had grav in front of him last year protecting the defence, now he doesn't, so that all down to Slots mis- management of the team.

he changed the whole dynamics of the team n definitely not for the better, people still making excuses for Slot is just strange to me.



26 Jan 2026 15:52:20
Strom, it's not a case of making excuses, it's laying blame where it should be. The crap form of VVD and Salah is down to them. How can VVD switching off and having a brain fart be down to Slot? How can the inability of Salah to be able to hit a cows arse with a banjo be down to Slot?

Maybe all this makes me strange.



26 Jan 2026 16:27:08
I'm not having that Strom. Yes Slot hasn't done well this season but he can't be held completely responsible for 2 seasoned pros who both signed bumper contracts last season going completely missing this season.

Salah and VVD are both experienced enough to knock on the manager's door and tell him if they think they are not being utilised properly. VVD is the captain so he should definitely be in constant dialogue with the manager and probably is.

Salah thinks it's ok to play as badly as he has all season and then run to the press when he's dropped claiming he's been thrown under the bus? You've thrown the manager and the club under the bus with your god awful performances on the pitch! He's had numerous chances to score in the last 2 games alone and has spooned every single one of them. He's not even got close to a shot on target since October!

I'd even throw Ali into the mix too as he's been well below par this season when fit.

Slot has been crap but he's not alone in that and there are quite a few players who have let him and the club down badly.



26 Jan 2026 16:52:16
The rebuild is less than half complete, but hopefully we'll get decent money for the available players and get some more of those savings out from the past 15 years.



26 Jan 2026 17:56:21
Sean aka beckers peckers / Robbos lost legs.

Games over mate. You've announced more departures than Gatwick and Heathrow combined.



26 Jan 2026 17:22:31
Rome, haven't heard you blame Slot for much this season, so that in its self is strange. Salh mightn't be as good as he was, but it was on 6 months ago he was a world beater, Slot changed the formation, Salahs confidence goes, VVD as iv said had structure in front of him with Grav protecting the back 4, what happens Slot changes his position n VVD n Bambi on ice are exposed all season.

not rocket science who is to blame is it.



26 Jan 2026 17:25:31
SD. you've been on Salahs back all season while championing Slot, Yea they both got bumper contracts, Why? Because they were are best players by a country mile, so all of a sudden they're now useless, no to me that's down to the manager n how he plays us. simple really.



26 Jan 2026 17:30:44
I do agree. We can all blame slot for the drab we are subjected to, but we cannot blame him for the mistakes we are making in defence. Virg casually strolling for Bournemouth's 1st or we refusing to put the ball out to let Endo come in, are brain farts from the team.

Salah could have shot at goal instead of trying to pass to Gapko. They are to blame too.



26 Jan 2026 17:31:50
Did Salah not score in November against Villa?



26 Jan 2026 17:48:40
Fatspanishwaiter what savings you on about? The over £100 million loss since 2020?



26 Jan 2026 18:36:31
Strom, Slot will eventually get the sack, there is pretty much no doubting that. But we will have to agree to disagree on Salah and VVD. They were once both world class players, any change in tactics should not be blamed for their nose-dive in form, they're not apprentices. Salah's form dropped back in about March.



26 Jan 2026 19:02:05
Slot hasn't performed well. VVD hasn't performed well, Salah hasn't performed well, the list can go on. There is nobody responsible for all of the problems. As I said the other day the single biggest problem at all levels within the club is there is no apparent leadership and the effect is that the first team just look like an aimless mess with a complete lack of purpose.

It's staggering that a coach who managed to win the PL last season can't break down a 'low block' defence which has been in use for at least 50 years that I can recall.



26 Jan 2026 19:20:03
I side with Rome on this one…. both of those people know how to personally play better than what they have been recently doing. They both need to show up.



26 Jan 2026 19:22:19
I'm sick of reading posts saying this is the team which only 6 months ago, won the Premiership, it isn't, get that through your collective skulls.
It's the same club, not the same team. Half of it (Luis/ TAA/ Darwin/ Diogo) are no longer at the club, three (Virg/ Mo/ Robbo) are very obviously gone over the hill and Mac very obviously started the season with an injury and looks a pale imitation of the player he was last season. This is not the team which won the league, it is very far from it. So let's stop with the hyperbole.
Klopp had 3 workhorses in midfield supporting young, magnificent defensive unit and three thoroughbreds up front who could run all day. Those types of players are not at the club anymore, Mac/ Grav/ Dom are never going to imitate Fab/ Hendo/ Gini and the front three are never going to be Mane/ Bobby/ Mo, so why do people expect the same type of football as we played 4 years ago? It was great to watch, but we also lost games and even though LFC had a great team for 5/ 6 seasons, it yielded only one league title.


Maybe, just maybe Klopp/ Slot wrung the last out of a lot of these players last season, and like happened the years after Klopps team won the PL and nearly the quadruple, the players collapsed the following season.
I feel sorry for Slot, firstly I think he was hamstrung by the higher ups when they had such a top heavy, offensive outlay last summer, without addressing the glaringly obvious issues in defence, secondly because of injuries and thirdly because fans are so fickle. Slot was lucky last year with injuries, but anyone who watched the last third of the season could see the players were out on their feet. If only there was a way of preserving the players so that in the last few months of the season, they would be better able to compete.



26 Jan 2026 21:28:18
No Strom I have been on Salah's back since he felt it was ok to go moaning to the press and put the entire squad under even more pressure for his own selfish reasons.

He was brilliant last season but this season, along with VVD he has been absolutely awful. He can't control the ball, go past a man or even hit the target. That's on him not Slot. He's a very experienced player who's won it all, he should be playing a lot better.

What part of me saying Slot has been crap is me championing Slot? He should be sacked but he's not to blame for everything.



26 Jan 2026 22:23:45
I think it's definitely tactical for the drop off. Mo more than anyone, if we played the same way we would be able to compare ( they didn't look crap v RM) it takes us 129 passes or 5 min before he gets the ball. Even Ali's quick passes out to set up attacks have stopped because that's not how we play now.

The whole team look and are mostly playing crap. It's magnanimous to defend the manager but in reality he's indefensible. He can't even figure out how to beat a low block. Forget we're one of the biggest clubs in Europe, we are the champions I can't say we've played like champions once since spurs when we won it.



26 Jan 2026 22:37:57
Having a poor manager, forcing dire tactics, running poor training sessions will 100% have a bad influence on players. Salahs decline is only natural but I don't doubt slot has exacerbated things.



26 Jan 2026 22:46:36
Rome. they can't go from world class to useless in a space of 6 months, salah has the same speed as last year, people sayin his legs have gone, but I agree this would both be their last year but we could have used them properly and got the best outta them, He should have been sacked months ago most could see he lost the team a while back.



26 Jan 2026 22:52:28
It doesn't look like a form thing anymore with Mo, it's more like his legs have just gone. Watching him labour to beat a man, or run onto a pass, is almost like veterans football. It happens to the greats, I remember Stevie G most recently lose it within the space of six months.

With VVD it looks like sharpness and decision making, a different type of decline but a big drop off from where he was.

With Ali his kicking ability has gone which is presumably injury related, and that was a huge part of his game. He's still good one on one but we don't face that threat as much as we did under Jurgen, so basically he's just not as effective.

None of those things are on the coach, I think its age catching up with them.



26 Jan 2026 22:54:01
D- day. Riddles, they lost Nunez, Jota, who hardly played, Trent had given up halfway through the season n Diaz has n always will be hit n miss, so none of them were nailed down starters, and it was only 6 months ago we were crowned champions, let that sink into your skull.

the bottom line is this year is a joke from top to bottom. a lot of blame gets spread about but if a manager plays the players to their strengths then that's most of the problems solved, mac Grav n slob was the mid n all still there, Alisson VVD n Ibou still there Salah still there.



26 Jan 2026 22:56:51
Sean. you're a Slot apologist, the majority on here have been saying get rid while you have supported him till lately and maybe just maybe Salah knew what's been going on behind closed doors for him to speak out. looks like there is turmoil behind the scenes.



27 Jan 2026 00:31:27
Honestly, if Salah is suddenly this poor because of Slot's tactics then he is not the world class player we think he is.
He should be able to beat a man, pass a ball and score goals in almost any system.
He has not been subdued this season, he has been utterly mediocre.



27 Jan 2026 05:26:27
@Strom, why can't @SD, or anybody else for that matter, be a fan of Slot? People have different opinions but it is a public forum with freedom of speech allowed. Also, can you point me to a post on this forum where anybody has apologised for, or on behalf of, Slot?



27 Jan 2026 07:39:42
Riddles, Stormgotset?

The players no longer at the club made over 180 appearances during the PL campaign last year. Robbo made 33 appearances, Mac 35, Robbo is barely in the team this year, Mac started the season injured and hasn't found his form. Ali missed 2 months.

You don't have to think long and hard to find the meaning in that, neither of my posts are riddles.

This LFC is not the team that won the PL in terms of personnel, not ever close, they just play for the same club.



27 Jan 2026 11:39:09
D-day we improved the forward line, Ekitike is better than any of the forwards who aren't here, Isak when fit will also be better, I think Bradley is a better defender than Trent, Robbo people have been sayin his legs have gone for a cpl of years. if slot never messed the team around so much we'd be a lot closer to the top, as for the riddles you said your sick of posts saying we were champions 6 months ago, why when its true.

n its more or less the same team n manager but with shiny n expensive new additions, what everyone was screaming for.



27 Jan 2026 11:43:56
WdW. haven't you just made your post irrelevant by saying its a public forum. so that means I can also say what I want n don't have to explain anything to anyone if I don't want to. So can you point out where you have actually not posted anything with something condescending attached.



27 Jan 2026 13:35:49
Stormgodset, so you now accept that it isn't a riddle, players who made over 180 appearances between them last year are no longer even at the club, so it literally cannot be the same team as last year?
Virg/ Mo have completely dropped off in terms of performance, Mac was injured, Robbo hasn't played, how on earth could that possibly be construed as a riddle?
The multiple players brought in may very well be individually better then the players who left, but they are not like-for-like replacements so why are you saying this is the team which only 6 months ago won the PL? They aren't, it is the same club, most certainly not anywhere near the same team.



27 Jan 2026 14:13:04
D- day your just saying the same thing, its still more or less the same team, if the manager played us the same as last season the transition of the new players would have been a lot better, but he tried to re-invent us n it doesn't suit us.

The players you mentioned Nunez etc everyone wanted them out they wasn't good enough n only had bit parts in the team. The majority of the team is the same. Its just bad management from Slot.



27 Jan 2026 18:03:52
Stormgodset, it literally cannot be the same team if players who made over 180 appearances last year have left the club, never mind that Robbo, who made 33 appearances has rarely played, that's over 200 appearances in 38 games by personnel who are no longer in this years team.
Virg/ Mo are showing their age after a stellar season last year, Mac was injured at the start of the year, Bradley who made 19 appearances last season has been mostly injured this year and Ali missed two months of this season.


It is just insane that you think that this is the same team as last year, I can only think at this stage you are trolling.



27 Jan 2026 19:49:56
D- day were never going to agree, you're just on repeat, as for the trolling, are you a bit slow. why on earth would I troll. iv got a bit more to do with my time than to troll anyone, especially you.



27 Jan 2026 23:46:02
Pot, kettle, black @Strom - just read your last 35 posts on this particular thread. I appreciate the irony - do you?



28 Jan 2026 11:40:03
Wdw.35 posts. you losing the plot in your old age. a know it all. who knows nothing. Priceless.



 
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