06 Jun 2026 23:51:10
Harvey Elliott. I’ve always thought that in a system that deploys Wirtz centrally as a #10 or a second striker with plenty of movement ahead of and around him, that this same role would also suit Harvey. In fact, my assumption when we signed Wirtz was that our system would build around him and Harvey would deputize for him and occasionally Salah.
It may be that he’s just not quite at the level, or of course that he wants to move on somewhere he can finally be a starter.
Whatever happens, I’m looking forward to him playing and enjoying the preseason and, personally, seeing how much passion he clearly has for the club and our need for squad players, I hope there’s a role that works for both him and us. I guess if there’s anyone who can get the best out of him and find a way he can contribute it’s Iraola.
07 Jun 2026 00:32:36
I've said to friends all year that although you can see the class in some of the things Wirtz does, he hasn't been what I was expecting from listening to the hype, and that he has looked like to me a slightly better Harvey Elliott. In fact, there's some things Harvey actually does better, like shooting from distance.
If we are gonna go down the road of accomodating a No.10, then there's no reason Harvey can't be backup to Wirtz. He's one of the few left that would remember the standards that the old guard used to set.
07 Jun 2026 00:41:37
Always rated Elliot. More than happy to see him reintegrate to the squad if AI likes him.
07 Jun 2026 02:01:49
Wirtz is world class, Elliott is mid table class. That is the difference.
Elliott might have a role to play, but you can't compare him to Wirtz.
07 Jun 2026 02:47:41
Wirtz vest role is the left 10 role with freedom. He knows this from Leverkusen and Germany.
07 Jun 2026 02:48:07
Can this season, Riosstepover. Look, I know where both players are, but I judge them by what they've done in a red shirt. I'm not saying Wirtz doesn't become this football god, but on this season he's a slightly stockier, slightly quicker Elliott.
07 Jun 2026 04:43:05
If we play with a 10 that floats, I think the best for all parties would be to keep Elliott to come on for Wirtz on some games he needs subbing off/resting, then reassess in January or end of season.
With the wasted season he's had at Villa, we'd get peanuts for him if anyone's at all interested.
He works hard, loves Liverpool, and is a capable sub to Wirtz. He's not strong or quick but in an Iraola team that moves the ball fast and always looks to attack, Elliott could do well. He can create, assist and shoot from distance.
Keep, in my opinion. Need to do too much work in other areas.
07 Jun 2026 08:01:06
Florian forgetting that we had an abysmal season and an abysmal manager leading it. I think the only player who didn't regress was Szobo.
07 Jun 2026 08:16:55
I really like Elliot too, but for me, he would be second fiddle at rw, and then 2/3rd fiddle at no 10 behind Wirtz and Szob. I think AI will use Wirtz at both 10 and lw, and Szob both no. 8 & 10.
I would like to see Elliott re-integrated, but for his career, I think it is best if he moved on.
07 Jun 2026 08:26:31
The team must be built around Wirtz. Why Slot didn't do that is insanity.
07 Jun 2026 09:55:01
Wirtz sees moves and passes above anyone else on the team. He reads the game so fast. I love Elliott but he's nowhere near his level, but as a sub for him might work, but Elliott is slower in all aspects.
It's all up to them to prove to Adoni that they can play his system.
07 Jun 2026 09:57:26
We've had these discussions before. I agree with FM to the extent that I expected more from Wirtz. Sure, the systems didn't suit him and all that, but with the hype and cash value I thought he'd be a bit special. He wasn't, but I hope he will be. He'll have his chance to prove his worth next season, and hopefully he will.
07 Jun 2026 10:28:53
Half of you forgetting Wirtz can't hardly play a full game yet. Harvey back in the squad at this moment is a no brainer.
07 Jun 2026 11:24:49
If Iraola sticks to a 4-2-3-1, and Wirtz in the 3, then being Wirtz's backup is about the only position Elliott can do well in. I don't see him as a winger, and certainly not one of the 2 defensive midfielders Iraola likes to play with. And I'd keep him.
07 Jun 2026 12:48:45
Wirtz, I'm a fan of, my brother n some of my friends don't rate him. But, going on last season, you wouldn't say he was 100 million pound better player than Elliot. This season is a big one for Wirtz; if he doesn't improve, then all the hype surrounding him will just be exactly that, Hype.