12 Oct 2026 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - MCR has posted a new article entitled, Effort Has to Be Liverpool's Bare Minimum
12 Oct 2026 07:55:58
I stopped reading when you said bring Endo back in. I thought, given the players available, the starting XI was the right one. We weren't out-fought. Up till the sending off I thought we were probably the better side.
I do agree about Wirtz needing to be dropped, but I've been banging on about that forever. Even the excuse makers are starting to run out of excuses for him. I hope I'm not saying the same about Barcola in a few months time, because I thought he was lousy, yesterday.
12 Oct 2026 08:37:29
Let's be honest, The whole season collapsed in the Summer transfer window.
It was a terrible window for Liverpool.
Crawling to January again because we can't fix obvious problems in the squad even after a full season of watching it.
12 Oct 2026 09:00:11
It is concerning that our best signing has been a loan, make shift right back, considering the eye watering money we've thrown around the last few years. It reminds of the saying about broken clocks and all that.
12 Oct 2026 09:08:17
We are not like City, cheslea, Arsenal and other 16 clubs who can spend money like water lol. FSG don't work that way. if you think January would fix our problems then god help us. There is a clear rason why they went in for a coah and not a manager.
12 Oct 2026 09:21:43
What Rome said. I also thought Araujo struggled badly yesterday albeit up against good wingers.
12 Oct 2026 09:35:56
Personally don't care about Wirtz pulling out of 50/50s. He's a luxury player. The other midfielders are the ones who need more bite. My issue with Wirtz is that he's our 10 and supposed game changer and he is too scared to beat a man or make any more than a 5 yard pass.
When he does try to do either he invariably loses the ball. His strength in the tackle is not his problem. He is not good enough at the things we bought him to be good at.
12 Oct 2026 09:50:54
Araujo simply couldn't cope with Doku. To be fair, Doku has given our previous RBs problems as well. I think we all agree that we need two new quality FBs in the next couple of windows.
Slot had to go, but I think we can all see that last season wasn't all down to him, which I kept saying over and over.
12 Oct 2026 10:17:49
To be fair, O'Reilly struggled with Munoz also and Araujo won't be the only person who struggled against Doku this season.
I thought it was going to take something special to separate these sides, shame it had to come from the ref.
Nearly mid Oct and this is the first loss, I think we need some perspective here!
12 Oct 2026 10:34:15
Maybe we could try Szobozlai there Rome.
12 Oct 2026 10:48:05
I'm assuming that is meant in jest FM.
12 Oct 2026 11:41:22
As it stands, FM, he is our best RB. However, I think it's time to start Szoboszlai in the 10 position. He honestly cannot do any worse than the current one.
12 Oct 2026 12:06:20
I think people have forgotten how well Szoboszlai was doing in his first 6 months as a #10, under Klopp. And then he got injured and he started playing further back.
12 Oct 2026 12:09:55
Doku is one of the best one on one players in the world. It would take a historically great fullback to consistently lock him up. When facing a wide threat of Doku's quality, we need help on that side, we can't keep blaming the fullback when he gets dribbled past. Why do you think defenders used to double or triple up on Mo and Sadio back in the day?
I think we did decently well considering the circumstances before the game with injuries etc. Should have scored when we were well on top the first 20 minutes, but we just didn't have the quality up front to provide a real cutting edge, and messed up the final ball on too many occasions. Barcola was bitterly disappointing, when he had space to attack in front and could isolate Nunes often he just passed up the opportunity, that is supposed to be his bread and butter. Wirtz was bad, yes, but he also could have had at least one assist in the game. The build up at times in the first half looked very good, confident and calculated, and the press against a team of City's technical quality was very decent.
12 Oct 2026 12:14:07
Fair to mention Aurajo had been playing sixty mins and was on a yellow by the time Doku came o.
12 Oct 2026 12:24:24
ArAy1969 I think you're forgetting Dom was heavily criticised for not producing enough in the 10, and you're not noticing that he does his best work when he's arriving, making runs from slightly deeper, his numbers have gone up significantly since playing the 8.
12 Oct 2026 12:37:22
Rome you and a few others were right about the problems. They're fairly plain to see for most of the long standing fans, it's just that many on the forum look for the most simple solution which was sack the coach. Arne needed to go but the major problem is that many of the players we've bought aren't good enough to sustain a top end challenge.
We had a purple patch between 2016 and 2018 when we bought some great, really truly great players. They saw us through for just less than a decade and then inevitably declined.
Since then the majority of our transfer business has been average to poor. We occasionally get one right like Diaz or Szob, but for every one we got right we get two or three wrong. When that's against a backdrop of your great players coming to an end and your great coach leaving it leaves you in a difficult place in terms of being competitive.
The last few windows have been as bad as any I can remember as a Liverpool fan of forty years in terms of value delivered. The likes of Frimpong and Kerkez are just not the right quality, Mama and Chiesa are very poor, Wirtz is a nothing player, the list goes on.
I really hope Iraola succeeds but given the turmoil off the pitch in the last few years, and the lack of experience and quality on the pitch, I wonder whether we needed to go bigger in terms of a proven manager. Should it have been acknowledged that this was going to be a Jurgen size task to rebuild, rather than a more simple tactical and fitness tweak which is what many were saying after Arne left.
It's also just a shame our decade of great players coincided with a time when our main competition were alleged to be cooking the books otherwise we would have had more silverware.