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30 Dec 2016 14:04:23
Being reported in Italy that lucas has had a medical and that the loan has an option to buy.


1.) 30 Dec 2016 14:17:03
I think he's out of contract in May anyway, so there would be no need for an option to buy?

2.) 30 Dec 2016 15:53:32
I reported this last week on the rumor page and no one believed it as usual. Klopp was asked about Lucas and he rrrspinded with no decision has been made YET. I expect the lad to move in January.

3.) 30 Dec 2016 16:37:13
Not such a wise decision in my opinion. He's a good squad player and a player we will most likely need in the run in that we have next month. All sorts of games in every competition so he would play a valuable part of that but we are loaning him out? The timing really baffles me, should have just let him go in the summer then.

4.) 30 Dec 2016 17:10:49
James Pearce is usually reliable and tweeted Lucas contract actually runs until the summer of 2018, not this upcoming summer.

5.) 30 Dec 2016 17:19:28
It's clear that he's unable to push for a place in our midfield with Henderson and Stewart apparently preferred by Klopp in that position. It could be a sign that Joe Gomez is nearing a return if Klopp is prepared to let Lucas go in January, and that's good news to me.

It will be a sad day when he goes but I think it's probably the best for both parties if he moves on so he can play more regularly and Liverpool can start playing our youngsters in this role, and with Henderson asserting himself as captain, Milner and Matip I say we have enough leaders in the dressing room at this moment in time.

What do you think Ed001?

6.) 30 Dec 2016 17:38:49
It is nothing to do with other players and everything to do with his attitude and prior service. It is felt he deserves the opportunity to play regularly if he wants to go. While he does not really want to leave Liverpool, he does want regular first team football.

Whichever way he decides is fine by me, I am in full agreement that he has earnt the right to do what is best for him.

7.) 30 Dec 2016 19:16:58
Great fella but average footballer. Be sad to see him go for his influence in the dressing room rather than his play on the pitch. Good luck to him I really hope it works out.

{Ed001's Note - that is why he should go, ungrateful people like you can't even just wish him well without a dig.}

8.) 30 Dec 2016 19:37:23
My point of view is to let him leave for his career. Love the guy and how he came through the tough times the fans gave him. Let him thrive in Italy and good luck to him


9.) 31 Dec 2016 00:40:50
I would love it if he just saw out the season with us - guys like him are priceless when it comes to a tilt at the title and IF we were to win it, he would be hugely deserving of a winners medal for his commitment and attitude in the face of those who felt he wasn't fit to wear the shirt. Lucas, as far as I am concerned, is a Liverpool player through and through and I would be sorry to see him go.

10.) 31 Dec 2016 10:24:54
Good luck to the lad in all his future endeavours. With his his contract running out at the end of June he deserves it. In many respects he has been the perfect professional, playing whenever and wherever he has been needed. Many could learn a thing or two from his selfless attitude. Were he to stay with us he would have increasingly limited chances in both midfield and defence AND he really should be playing weekly somewhere. I'll probably watch whatever football he plays when I get a chance wherever he goes because he has been faultless in his support of us and the club we adore. He deserves ouyr support.

11.) 31 Dec 2016 10:32:19
Great servant for the club, for me before his bad injury a few seasons ago against chelsea he was one of our best players in my opinion and felt he would succeed gerrard as captain some day, alas it didn't happen. But a great player for us over 10 years, he had a tough start to life at anfield but changed his game and became a real talented player. If im not mistaken he is the last surviving player from rafa's reign. Hope he does what is best for him. Would love to see him stay until the end of the season but if he does go ill be happy for him. YNWA Lucas Leiva.

12.) 31 Dec 2016 11:15:00
Spot on Ed001. He has earned the right to choose and has been a great servant. I suspect that it is the right time, both for him to keep playing and for LFC to open up room for Gomez and possibly Stewart.
Also agree that he's been way better than average as a player.

13.) 31 Dec 2016 11:36:15
Still remember the moment Lucas broke Yaya Toure in 2011. Toure was on a high from the previous season and set off on one of his trademark dribbles and Lucas just stepped across him, eased him out of it, and set off in the other direction with the ball.

Toure went on to have a fairly indifferent season. Coincidence? I think not. He was probably haunted by the image of a Brazilian midfielder half his size outmuscling him for the rest of the season. (This is slightly tongue in cheek, btw)

Personally I'd be looking to keep Lucas if I were in charge because whilst Hendo hasn't let us down in that position, he has a bit of room to improve defensively and Can's not really got the head for the "pivot" position in our midfield. So I'd like to see us have the option of Lucas' experience to call on, especially when we're in Europe next season. But as Ed001 says, he's earned the right to choose to play regular football if he wants and needs to.

14.) 01 Jan 2017 08:29:12
Well said Ed01,i wish Lucas all the best.



21 Dec 2016 21:47:00
Transfer window
Well lads only 10 days till the window opens and I can honestly say this is the first time I don't think we need anyone. If you disagree state position and who? As a footnote if Klopp were to go into the market his past suggests he does business in the first week even in his Dortmund days so unless anyone was sold or a major injury I don't expect any business after the first week of the window has gone.


1.) 21 Dec 2016 22:17:51
Sell Sturridge and buy Icardi. Never going to happen but that's my 2 cents.

{Ed001's Note - god no, Icardi is trouble. He is Balotelli level problem.}

2.) 22 Dec 2016 01:39:09
Great team, good times! But don't kid yourself. Any team, including Liverpool could use improvement all the time!

3.) 22 Dec 2016 03:19:15
Buy a good LB ( Jordan amavi/ Tierney/ Gibbs / kosalniac) . Also if possible get a deal agreed for the summer for that lad Frank kessie like the one we did for gujric.
Thats not too much I hope 😋.

4.) 22 Dec 2016 06:26:56
Icardi is perfect imo. strong, fast, skillful and workhorse. Over the top he is a natural goal scorer would lead the line better than Sturridge.
A Klopp high would change his life forever.

{Ed001's Note - he is an utter bellend who should be nowhere the club.}

5.) 22 Dec 2016 07:19:51
As brilliant as Milner has been I still think ultimately we will need a left but for me a really food centre half.

Don't get me wrong, we have Matip ( brilliant) and both Lovren and Klavan were great on Monday night but our biggest weakness again this season has been the defence.

Once solution is young Gomez I suppose, who I thought was fantastic before his injury but is he ready yet? I don't think so.

6.) 22 Dec 2016 09:53:48
Would love to hear your opinion on what we should be doing in January Ed001?

As Villa don't look like getting near promotion this season I think Amavi would be a good bet. He's still young and wouldn't need to be thrown straight in as we have Milner there playing well. Klopp could ease him in over the next 6 months to get him ready for 1st choice next year.

Apart from that, unless we can suddenly pluck a world class CB out from somewhere I am happy with the squad for the rest of this season.

Cheers in advance.

{Ed001's Note - I am not convinced we need to do anything in January personally. I would rather see the youngsters given chances. Juanma at left back looks promising. If we buy players like Amavi, it is like telling Juanma to give it up. We do need a centre back, if Matip is going to continue to struggle with injuries. If not, I would prefer to wait until the summer.}

7.) 22 Dec 2016 09:55:41
Still a starting calibre left back! But hold fire if no one worthwhile is available!

8.) 22 Dec 2016 12:35:02
Icardi has the ultras on his back (maybe a bit OTT) but there's a reason for it.

He is an arse with no respect for fans or the source of his eccentric lifestyle. Like ed said, Mario mark 2.

9.) 23 Dec 2016 17:38:47
If ojo isn't ready to come in I'd like to see a bit more pace up top-out wide. Origi and mane are rapid but studge had lost a yard or two.



25 Jul 2016 21:50:11
Ssn reporting the foxes are considering an offer from Liverpool for chillwell.


1.) 25 Jul 2016 23:45:16
looking forward to seeing how this progresses. Echo saying that Klopp is backing out of a deal as he is not convinced of Chilwell's desire to move to us. Funny because they have a quote in speech marks but not based on an interview. So likely to be a re-phrased 2nd or 3rd hand comment via the kitchen lady.

2.) 26 Jul 2016 17:44:49
Ed01 has said Chilwell is still of interest to us.




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09 Mar 2017 20:18:48
So just for a bit of fun with all the odd rumours flying around if there had to be a choice between can or the ox who would you choose?


1.) 09 Mar 2017 20:43:36
Can - we don't need the Ox thanks.

{Ed025's Note - emre can is the present day carlton palmer one can actually believe he gets paid to play football mate.. :)

2.) 09 Mar 2017 23:21:26
I've given him a fair bit of stick myself mate - fairly consistent said I'm not sure he fits in the 4-3-3 as he's not creative enough going forward or defensively sound enough for deeper role.

Having said that he's also had some good games, and tends to play particularly well alongside someone more mobile to complement him.

I'd be OK to see him leave if we get in a top deep midfielder, but likewise more thank OK to see him stay as he only 23 and there's enough there to potentially see him develop with time.

Ox on the other hand I see absolutely no need for. Has his moments but nowhere near reliable enough, poor attitude and doesn't score enough goals. Would rather see Wilson/ Ojo/ Woodburn given a shot.

3.) 09 Mar 2017 23:26:40
This from a club that has James Mccarthy and Aaron lennon.

4.) 10 Mar 2017 00:36:53
If we only listened to people that support the top 4 sides it would be would a boring world indeed.

5.) 09 Mar 2017 23:22:29
Easy Can. At least he has the chance to improve, i don't think Ox will.

6.) 10 Mar 2017 08:44:11
I'd rather take a gamble on Ramsey than Ox.

7.) 10 Mar 2017 14:17:19
Come on ed, that's harsh, especially coming from an everton fan - you lot are often known for your particularly skewed observations of players, especially your own😉

Can has been awful this season that is true, he has had a lot of good games for us though. The problem i have is that he hasn't improved in almost 3 years. He still cannot apply his talents better and more consistently and still has not improved on anything he is bad at. Furthermore i feel he is too similar to what we already have without actually fitting in well anywhere. Too unintelligent to play in hendersons or wijnaldums place, not skillful enough to play in lallanas, and still can't pass the ball beyond 10 yards. I feel he needs to go to a lesser club that suits the level he is at now.

8.) 10 Mar 2017 15:23:55
In a time when we have no character in our squad why on earth would we want to buy players from arsenal, where having nice hair comes before football, inconsistency keeps you in the team and 4th place is seen as a trophy.

9.) 10 Mar 2017 15:45:42
I wouldn't, Chills. Both as with Walcott, have stagnated at Arsenal just like their manager. I wouldn't touch any of them. I would keep Can as he has more upside than the stagnating Ox.

10.) 10 Mar 2017 22:11:29
Ox is the textbook definition of average. And that's being kind. He's not quick enough to be a winger, not clever enough or skilful enough to be a number 10 and frankly isn't a centre midfielder. Let him go to City or Man United and waste their transfer budget.

11.) 10 Mar 2017 16:48:21
It doesn't matter weather hebus good or bad. The point being we don't need another running midfielder. We have plenty. Can we have a deep lying midfielder or strong CM. Comfortable in possession and defensive aspects?



06 Mar 2017 20:40:51
Think can could have a future with us if klopp can find his best position, anyone see him as a future ball playing CB? Played well Saturday.


1.) 06 Mar 2017 21:17:52
No he's a 6 but the problem is when hendo plays he starts . Klopp tried him in gini postion but he slows down the play . He played as a number 6 last year and that's his postion.

2.) 06 Mar 2017 21:23:08
Wasn't for the world champions!

3.) 06 Mar 2017 21:50:13
He needs to work really hard on his defending and position in the next two seasons if he is to fulfill his potential.

4.) 06 Mar 2017 22:21:16
Not sure what you mean by Number 6. He is not a CDM.

5.) 06 Mar 2017 22:54:55
I think that has to be his position harry he's not creative enough further forward in small interchanges he's better playing long balls. He just needs to really sharpen up on his defensive fragilities.

6.) 07 Mar 2017 01:21:25
Is hendo a 6 you got have to be dm if you seen the games agaist Arsenal and BVB you see what I mean .

7.) 07 Mar 2017 12:29:14
The numbers doesn't count. If you mean by the deepest lying midfielder then unfortunately Can is terrible in that role / position.

8.) 07 Mar 2017 12:30:40
Unfortunately Can cannot read the game, is rash, and his end product is constantly found wanting. Therefore he clearly isn't suited to being a holding midfielder, or an attacking midfielder.

However he is very strong, very aggressive, has a good passing range, has the ability to drive at the opposition and has the power to get up and down for 90 minutes. He is very clearly suited to a box to box midfielder role. Or just a centre mid if you want to call it that.

I wouldn't sell him unless we could get in a first team ready upgrade. Either way it is not a priority. He is a decent squad player with first team potential.

9.) 07 Mar 2017 17:51:38
I love emre can. He will be a solid player for us.
Remember how Lucas was at first. We need to be patient with Can.

10.) 07 Mar 2017 19:56:11
Can needs to improve his game cos there are several holes in it if he wants to realize his potential. I think he just needs to find a position that suits him for him to flourish.



20 Feb 2017 17:56:26
As we have to move on 17,456 players before we can get one in please let that one be Mbappe. He would be superb down the left side. Nearest player I've seen to Henry.


1.) 20 Feb 2017 18:18:02
Erm you mean a young winger with lots of potential and highly rated?

If only Ojo was foreign eh? he'd be a shoe in.

2.) 20 Feb 2017 18:41:11
Klopp has ready said he needs to be more direct. I don't get people who what's to see he kids now and put massive prussure on them let them develop.

3.) 20 Feb 2017 20:28:10
I think we've been a bit unfair playing a number of young lads in 2nd string sides in cup games all at the same time.
If we were to play one of them in the 1st team it would be far more beneficial to them and the club.

Woodburn really impressed when he is surrounded by better quality players as does TTA.

4.) 21 Feb 2017 08:58:37
We do have some talented players such as TTA but in the main we still fall short as proven in their own leagues let alone being thrown in at the deep end against Plymouth and Wolves for example. I agree with Dermot we would be better served starting with half the senior players supporting our youth players. Their education from that experience is surely more enriched.

5.) 21 Feb 2017 14:15:01
The u23 set up does not really prepare the young lads of any club properly for life in the first team.

I know the intention is to have a larger pool of younger talent playing regularly with a few senior pros who are recovering from injury or having discipline issues.
but I think the old reserve or B. team set up was better
Where the balance of youth and experience could be more flexible and the young lads were playing against and training with seasoned pros week after week.



06 Feb 2017 19:50:02
I said last summer that we needed a cavalho, kante, medal type player and my opinion still hasn't changed. Wow what a difference has Kante made to Chelsea. And at 30 mill what a snip when you think Pogba was 90mill. I think it was Ed2 who first pointed him out if so well done to you sir.


1.) 06 Feb 2017 19:58:38
Kantes a freak of nature. A joke tbh the impace he has made at both clubs.

Dont think carvalho/ medel etc would make that kind of impact.

Kantes probably at this current time the worlds best cm player. Gets into any team in the world rigut now over any other player.

There aren't many of them knocking around.

Still don't see how clubs didn't launch ludicrous offers at it especially the chanpionsleague clubs.

One of the few players who noone would sniff if he oicked up 500k a week.

2.) 06 Feb 2017 20:01:50
Carvalho, Kante and Medel are all different types of players though?

3.) 06 Feb 2017 20:22:02
They all break play up. I wonder why Leicester let him go so cheap, bet they're regretting it now.

4.) 06 Feb 2017 21:05:22
Kante is the second best signing by Chelsea after Makelele and by the end of this season his position will be known as the Kante role. He is like a machine who could do anything. He will become a unique player to win back to back league title with two different teams successively. I would have personally sold half of the club to sign him.

I raised the need of a specialist holding mid in the summer but was squashed by the A list posters of double pivot and blah blah. Had we spend that £25 mill on Carvalho we would have not conceded these many goals.

5.) 07 Feb 2017 00:56:25
Carvalho will not cost 25m. If he was worth that, he would have left Sporting ages ago.



12 Jan 2017 09:21:47
Eds 25 and 42 I think we are now seeing how important Hendo is in the way klopp plays. It started when he went off against man city we then got over run because he let's the rest of the team play through his unselfishness. This is not a snipe Eds just my opinion


{Ed025's Note - he does along with mane give you energy and impetus ace, i think you can live without one of them but not the two and although he is lacking in the skill department jordan does give you that mate..

1.) 12 Jan 2017 17:05:50
He also brings leadership and the team is more focused and fluid when he is playing.

2.) 12 Jan 2017 17:48:35
Henderson is very skillful, just not during games. Watch one of those skill schools on utube from when he was at sunderland and you will see what i mean.

3.) 12 Jan 2017 22:04:05
did You See Arsenals Konchelsea (spelling) skill tricking in warm up the other day awesome.




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20 Mar 2017 19:47:53
Dembele good at 15 mil not at the figures talked about thank you!




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19 Mar 2017 20:59:11
All three midfielders were superb today.




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10 Mar 2017 21:00:31
Me too could end up being brilliant or an injury prone burden but would take him for 8 mill or some sort of swap deal with studge.




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28 Feb 2017 20:10:34
I had pf when I played. There is no cure just rest so glad no WC or euros this year believe me this is the only thing that can help. got to feel for Hendo.




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11 Feb 2017 22:13:52
Wini's best game for Liverpoool.





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28 Mar 2017 20:34:05
Clyne loveren matip milner
Can Hendo gini
Mane bobby couts
3-1 no probs.




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23 Mar 2017 20:40:22
Kevin keelan, unbelievable. Best save ever Jerzys last minute save 2005.




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22 Mar 2017 11:25:57
True great RIP RONNIE.




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13 Mar 2017 09:12:20
Migs was excellent yesterday. Not many keepers would come that far off the line as it leave them open for ridicule should they misjudge the ball, but he really helped the defence out. Good report from Ed1 on his performance yesterday.




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06 Mar 2017 21:23:08
Wasn't for the world champions!