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11 Feb 2018 07:36:57
Is Leon Bailey of Leverkusen of interest to us instead of Lemar?

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1.) 11 Feb 2018 09:26:59
Different players mate. Bailey is more of a goal scoring wide forward. Lemar in contrast, is a creative attacking midfielder. Bailey plays on the right so he can cut inside and shoot. Lemar plays on the left so he can whip in crosses.

The only similarity is they're both left footed. Lemar is the type of player we news though, as we have goal scorers short in supply of good chances. Bailey would be a direct replacement for Salah, and is just another player who takes chances more than he looks to create them. Both fantastic players though.


2.) 11 Feb 2018 11:42:31
Ah sure let's just get both 😉.


3.) 11 Feb 2018 11:41:07
I would love him over anyone including Pulisic. Bailey is a cracking player and would flourish under Klopp! Arguably the best player in the league this season!


4.) 11 Feb 2018 12:12:38
MK, maybe Salahs on the move again.


5.) 12 Feb 2018 06:15:53
Salah will more than likely be going to Real in the summer. Bailey would be a good replacement.


6.) 12 Feb 2018 07:17:05
Salah will not be going anywhere this summer.


7.) 12 Feb 2018 09:10:09
I agree with Carragold. There is no way i can see Liverpool selling Salah this Summer.


8.) 12 Feb 2018 10:38:05
I think there is a genuine possibility, Real will be in the market for forward players and who better than Salah? They have the spending power to offer a huge bid and the lure of Real is huge, coupled with what will be a big pay rise and what we know about his agent contacting them already I think we will have a huge task on our hands keeping him.


9.) 12 Feb 2018 13:11:13
Cobra, REal's first choice targets are Neymar, Hazard and one of Griezmann and Icardi. I doubt they will sign Salah also.


10.) 12 Feb 2018 14:24:57
Lemar is not worth the 90m they are asking for which is why Klopp reportedly has walked away and frankly, I agree with him.


11.) 12 Feb 2018 15:26:17
Doesn't Bailey predominantly play on the left anyway, so could be a mane replacement? Or Salah up too mane right and firmino just off them?


12.) 12 Feb 2018 15:52:16
Do you know for sure IB? i thought Barcelona are favourites for Griezmann? And I’m not sure Neymar is off this summer.


13.) 12 Feb 2018 21:58:42
Cobra let's not get carried away, when Salah signed for us most thought he wasn't good enough. It's his 1st top season, hazard for example has done it for years. There are many players real could go for. This is real we're talking about. if they are really looking to sign 3 attackers they are looking to replace Benzema, Bale and Ronaldo! All 3 would probably walk into most teams in the world, including ours.


14.) 12 Feb 2018 23:06:41
Id like to think Salah is a little more humble and has a little more about him than to jump ship at the first opportunity .


15.) 15 Feb 2018 12:49:20
@kloppshop
Bale is very injury prone and a big risk at the wages he wants. Most likely to goto Man Utd who can afford the risk
Benzema is a nut job who is more interested in being a wannabe gangster than in being a serious footballer - another big risk who would require a major change in our team for us to accommodate.

Leaves Ronaldo who whilst a brilliant footballer and would be a great example to our youngsters on how training hard can maximise your chances in the game, is increasingly showing the affects of age. At the wages he would command, it would be huge pressure on Klopp to play him instead of Mane or Salah.
So my conclusion is no they all wouldn't walk into any team in the world - certainly not ours.


 

 

 

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20 Jan 2018 14:44:53
So if no-one else comes in during this transfer window, who do people want to see come in during the summer window. My thoughts below:

Goalkeeper: an absolute must. Allison or Obiak
Centre Back: someone quality to partner Van Dijk
Defensive Midfield: if Can leaves then someone who can anchor the midfield
Striker: A good back up if Sturridge leaves
Coutinho replacement: Lemar has to be the priority for me.


I don't honestly think we need much else aside from the potential of Salah going to Real Madrid and needing to maybe replace him.

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1.) 20 Jan 2018 15:12:18
Think Matip playing alongside VVD will do wonders for him, don't think we need another center back, instead I would go for a new RB.

RB- Peirera (Porto) 30 m
DM- Savic (Lazio) 60m
ST- Werner (Lepizig) 40m
AM- Lemar 70m.


2.) 20 Jan 2018 15:14:29
For me, GK: let’s see horn Karius does in the second half of the season. If we still feel we need an upgrade then I’m inclined to trust ed001’s judgement and say Alisson.

CB: again I’d quite like to see if someone steps up and can raise their game. Also if we do buy another CB we block Gomez’s path to playing in his preferred position. If Klopp decides he wants to partner Gomez and Van Dijk then perhaps we need a new right back in the summer? I don’t think Clyne has many, if any games left for us and I don’t think it’s fair to go into a season with TAA as our first choice.

CM: If Can stays and becomes more consistent then I don’t think we need another CM. Henderson, Can, Keita, AOC, Lallana and Wijnaldum should be enough first team players for 3 central midfield positions. (and that’s without Milner) . However if Can were to leave I’d go for a player like Ndidi who has a bit more focus on protecting the defence.

Forwards: this is where I think people will disagree with me. I don’t think we need another out and out striker if Sturridge and Ings leave. We have Firmino and Solanke. Mane is also very comfortable playing centrally and our front three are so fluid anyway it’s not like we need someone who knows how to stand in the classic 9 position and hold the ball up. If Mane played centrally we already have lallana and AOC that can play out wide and cover those positions.

I’d at argue we might, and I meant might, need a better quality of player to cover the wide positions. This is where I think Lemar becomes an attractive proposition as he can play LW or on the left of a central midfield three giving us more depth and quality in both positions.

So, to conclude: we may need a GK/ CB/ RB but before we all start demanding signings in those positions let’s see how we do in the next 5 months. I feel as though a central midfielder should be sought if Can decides to leave/ stays and doesn’t perform how we know he can consistently. And then some more quality like Lemar out wide would probably really help.


3.) 20 Jan 2018 15:18:58
I really do not know why people seem to thumb suck transfer fees for players?


4.) 20 Jan 2018 15:30:27
I honestly don't believe that many if any people on here have actually watched Lemar play. He is massively overrated and not what we need. For 30 mil I would take him but 70 + is ridiculous when there are world class midfielders out there we could get.


5.) 20 Jan 2018 15:30:36
A goalkeeper and a holding midfielder are a must. A backup striker would be great too.


6.) 20 Jan 2018 15:32:41
I’d love to see Oblak, if not then horn. I’d then sign a RB Vrsaljko from AM. Maybe a CB depending on how Matip and Lovren do in the second half of the season. A CDM (ndidi) it can leaves, if not then I’m happy with can and hendo for the deeper role. Then I’d like to see Lemar come in and another young striker to replace Sturridge + maybe Ings. Then go into season with Firmino Solanke and another type of Solanke as our strikers. Then Rhian as 4th choice if he’s ever needed.


7.) 20 Jan 2018 15:44:10
We definitely need reinforcements in central midfield. We are just so flimsy here and I think it's our biggest problem area. I get Klopp doesn't play with a pure defensive midfielder afraid to stray more than 10 yards from the back 4, and that's fine, but a team still needs its midfielders to be able to defend, in the sense that they can spot gaps opening up, track runners and make tackles. None of ours really can do that. Henderson and Can sometimes make a decent enough fist of it, but not consistently. Plus we have no one who's really authoritative with the ball and can be depended on to control a game. Again Henderson, Can and Gini do it in fits and starts but not consistently. Plus Can is 50/ 50 to leave, I don't see what future Milner has here beyond that of a bit part player, and I'd seriously consider selling Gini if he doesn't start putting in good performances as a better rate than 1 in every 5 games. Keita's arriving and will help, but we still need at least one new recruit as well as him. Possibly two.

We need a center back to replace the frustratingly lazy Matip with someone who has the mentality to put their talent to use. Watch the second Man City goal again. He gets beaten at the edge of the area at the start of the move and then just stands there watching the play until they score. Not good enough.

Might want an attacking midfielder or winger. If we're without the services of Salah or Mane due to injury or rotation, we're looking at Oxlade-Chamberlain and Lallana as backup. They're both good players and that'd be fine, except they may also be needed in central midfield and I'd be more comfortable with another quality option to pick from. Finding a player who's both good enough, and will be able to tolerate some rotation mightn't be the easiest thing though. Woodburn could potentially ease this need, but it's big ask on such a young man.

Karius will either demonstrate himself capable of being #1 or not in the next few months. If it's the latter case, we'll need a new goalkeeper.

I don't think the need for a striker is all that pressing. I'm unconcerned about replacing Sturridge since we've barely used him this season, so what are we replacing? We need cover for Firmino. Solanke has the work-rate and looks to drop off to link up the play and with the right training and a bit of luck could be more than good enough for that role (and to become first choice when Barcelona buy Firmino off us in 2020). I'm as happy to give him a chance as to go out and buy another player to cover for Firmino. We also have Ings, and potentially Origi coming back if we want the option of a more 'traditional' striker.


8.) 20 Jan 2018 16:00:11
Goalkeeper
Keita

That would do for me.


9.) 20 Jan 2018 17:31:39
Benny they are pipe dreams mate. Like Pereira maybe and he is a good shout though suspect would cost more. Milinkovic-Savic would cost way more and we would be in competition with pretty much everyone in Europe. Werner isn't going to come here to be back up and he is certainly going to cost more than 40mil. And it seems like we already know the price for Lemar is going to be significantly higher than 70mil (unless Monaco's valuation changes? ) . I got no problem with the players but cannot see it from either a financial or footballing perspective.


10.) 20 Jan 2018 17:53:04
I honestly don’t know what people see in Lallana that they call him a center midfielder. He is 30, doesn’t possess anything to play as a CM, DM or a B2B player.
We definitely need one regalrdles of what happens with Can.


11.) 20 Jan 2018 17:53:47
Is right Ron, no need to go OTT. A world class keeper wins you the league, cups etc. With a worldie keeper, a Coutinho replacement then we will challenge. Definitely top 3 this season and maybe CL semis possibly the final.


12.) 20 Jan 2018 18:13:16
Gk. Think klopp made the right choice finally taking mignolet out. 195 games he has played for us and is still making basic errors. I don't rate karius either but give him to the end of the season see how he gets on. If he takes his chance he saves us 40+ million on a keeper. If not Alison is my choice


Cb. This is where I'll disagree with people. We need a new cb to play alongside vvd. For me matip (too lazy) lovern (too unpredictable) are not options going forward especially if we have aspirations challenging for trophies. Gomez for me is the future captain of this club and is getting fantastic experience playing rb. For me Toby alderwerield would be a world class signing whether he would come to us or not but if spurs do not make top 4 and we do I would be making them an offer in the summer. At 28 is coming into his prime, is a leader, knows the league so wouldn't need time settling in. He would also give 3/ 4 great years and then Gomez would take centre stage.

Cm. Lemar seems like klopps first choice which is fine by me. I think klopp has by now earned our trust by signing who he feels right. We may not agree or like all his choices but he has bought well in my opinion. Lemar would add creativity, quality from set pieces which we will miss with coutinho now gone. He hasn't had the best of seasons mainly because Monaco gutted there whole team leaving very few that won that league title last season. Also keita is on the way which will bulk the cm area

Fwd. To be honest I think we ok in this position. Firmino is first choice obviously and I can't see a top striker coming to play second fiddle. Solanke is just missing a goal to give him the confidence to go on a good run. He has done well in my opinion and also salah and mane could play up top if ever needed through injuries.


13.) 20 Jan 2018 19:45:48
Why is it that people think we need to buy a holding midfielder, if you’ve watched any of KLOPP’S teams they don’t play that way, his midfielders were all upwardly mobile, the nearest he had to one was LARS BENDER, but you wouldn’t say he was a defensive midfielder.


14.) 20 Jan 2018 20:04:38
The only real signing we need is a class goalkeeper and a CM if can goes if he stays we’re fine there too, we don’t NEED lemar, would I like him? Sure but do we need him? No. We DO NOT need a striker, you guys playing fantasy football Instead?


15.) 20 Jan 2018 22:05:59
Agree with Ron Keage. Goalkeeper And Naby. Use any surplus cash to increase the capacity of Anfield.


16.) 20 Jan 2018 23:22:26
Wembley

He had Nuri Sahin, A fine fine holding mid. We play Can and Hendo in that role who are not even close to be called as a holding mid!


17.) 21 Jan 2018 02:17:30
1. Top class keeper for obvious reasons.
2. Rb to allow gomez to play in the middle with vvd or allow gomez to cover middle and fb positions.
3. Strong central mid to replace can that is defensively minded but not necessarily a dm.
4. If sturridge and ings go would be happy for origi to come back into the fold.
5. Lemar, brandt or pulisic to replace the creativity hole vacated by coutinho. All of them however bring sonething slightly different to the party but all would improve the team.


18.) 21 Jan 2018 09:23:07
StevieJesus

I watched lemar play once only and that was last week against nice.

Was not very impressive in the slightest. Actually poor.

However, I will watch him again to see if there is any substance behind the fuss.


 

 

06 Jan 2018 21:21:13
Sad news about Coutinho but life moves on. I trust Klopp to buy wisely. My only issue is that we struggle to keep a good team together because every time we get close we lose our best players. What is the formula for keeping these players? Can we just shut out communication from Barcelona and Real Madrid?

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{Ed025's Note - not really hessle if a player wants to go he will go mate, forget about contracts they are not worth the paper they are printed on..


1.) 06 Jan 2018 21:35:46
Also it was stated he was letting it be known too staff management an most importantly the players he wanted out, that's a parasite in my eyes an as good As he is do we want a star player in our squad telling other players he wants out, no! , We want players telling each other how much they want the club too b successful an wat they can do about it so adiós amigos, jus hope we get sum more new blood in.


2.) 06 Jan 2018 21:41:36
Absolutely eds25 players will always go to the biggest teams and in the next 5 years they will all be in England.

{Ed025's Note - you could be right ace..


3.) 06 Jan 2018 21:41:50
When you sign for Barcelona for a big deal 50000+ people turn out just to see you do some kick ups.

When you play for Barcelona you can pretty much guarantee you will win something every year.

On average it rains in Liverpool on 156 separate days every year. In Barcelona it's 55 days.

10 minutes from Barcelona is the Costa Brava, 10 minutes from Liverpool is Formby Beach.

You can see what the attraction is.

We at least have to be challenging for the highest honours every year to try and be a more attractive proposition. But we have to remember it's not just about football to players, it's about their whole life.

You win some you lose some, Coutinho has done amazingly for us, got to thank him for that, now he wants to play for someone else, fair enough.

Thanks for the memories, thank you Barcelona for the money, let's all move on.

{Ed025's Note - great post that dawn..


4.) 06 Jan 2018 22:13:32
Brilliant RedDawn.


5.) 06 Jan 2018 22:18:16
Thank him? For faking an injury and not doing what he’s paid over £100k per week to do?


6.) 06 Jan 2018 22:44:56
Hesslered I think ion some ways it is a compliment to us that we can attract and nurture the sort of players that Barcelona and Real Madrid later on buy. i don't want us to be known as a selling club but if we buy a player for 8.5 mill and sell him 5 yrs later for 145 mill an then buy another player for 36 mill and a year later sell him for (surely salah must be 80 mill plus) then although we are losing quality players the profits and replacements are key.


 

 

 

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13 Feb 2018 19:40:16
We have a midfielder in Widjnaldum who decided he's going to turn up only when we play at home.

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13 Feb 2018 19:45:21
Isn't this a Liverpool page. For £500m spent it's laughable how far behind City, Utd are.

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28 Jan 2018 11:58:38
I think Klopp will be under the microscope as realistically it's a third season under him with no silverware and very little progress. Defensively we are still a shambles and hardly been resolved.

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28 Jan 2018 11:55:44
Totally and utterly agree with Ed002. Unless Klopp adapts we will continue to play well and flatter to deceive. We will also continue to lose games we really should win. It's just a continuation of the last 20-25 years.

It's obvious we need a better anchoring role in midfield. Maybe Keita will offer this. I also think we need an alternative to Firmino at times when things don't go our way. We also need a decent centre back of a Terry or Carragher who can read the game well and boot the ball out when necessary.

We also need an additional spark from somewhere. I'm not a fan of Widjnaldum. He just disappears a lot of the time and we need a domineering figure in that role.

To counter some of the negativity I understand there has been a lot of illness in the Liverpool camp so maybe that's had a bit of a part to play in the last couple of games.

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21 Jan 2018 23:12:22
I think Top 4, FA Cup win and Champions League Semi-Final would constitute a good season for us.

Klopp needs to start delivering.

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21 Jan 2018 17:41:58
How many Champions league finals have we reached since Rafa left? How many times have we matched his 86 points tally in 2009.

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