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27 May 2014 16:39:19
Hey eds,

Just wanted to know whether the club are interested in getting both xherdan shaqiri and adam lallana

Kman92

{Ed002's Note - I don't know but there is interest in both.}


 

 

 

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20 Sep 2020 18:58:31
I don’t want to see anymore questions about the Thiago transfer. That is why we bought him, and in the same game we saw why Klopp might have been willing to let wiji go to bring him in, in the first place. Great result and firmly shut the door on franks Chelsea being on our level.

Kman92

1.) 20 Sep 2020 19:00:35
Boom, what a result. I didn't get to see the game unfortunately but well chuffed!

{Ed0666's Note - You missed a Fabhino & Thiago clinic mate.


2.) 20 Sep 2020 19:00:52
Half-time substitute Thiago completed more passes (75) than any Chelsea player managed in the entire match. Since full passing data is available for the Premier League (2003-04), his 75 successful passes are the most by a player who played a maximum of 45 minutes. Control.

{Ed0666's Note - oh mate Im already drooling over Thiago don’t make it worse with stats like that. When he came on I stopped watching the game and concentrated on Thiago. He gave the ball away once I think possibly twice and his positioning was just exemplary. If he stays healthy he’s gonna be soccer porn.


3.) 20 Sep 2020 19:04:22
What have we just signed?! 😂 Did you all see that? We’re about to enter a new level with Thiago.

{Ed0666's Note - I cannot keep eulogizing about Thiago I’ve run out of words and tissues


4.) 20 Sep 2020 19:13:25
Kman2, my thoughts exactly Thiago was class, is class and will be class the guy is just class. No more talk of “not sure if we need him”.


5.) 20 Sep 2020 19:37:24
Ed people will feel us as arrogant now😂😂😂we are going to keep going on and on and on about thiago haha.

{Ed0666's Note - I stopped caring what people thought about me ions ago mate. My life is much more enjoyable for it.


6.) 20 Sep 2020 20:39:08
I had serious reservations about his age, injury record and if he’d be too lightweight. Well, in 45 minutes he answered that. He looked a world class midfielder, always found space, knew where his team mates would be, played simple passes and difficult passes easily, snapped into some tackles and showed his strength belies his frame. I’m fully converted, tremendous signing. As for Fabinho, he’s clearly Baressi’s long lost twin!

{Ed025's Note - oh come 6 times for christs sake!!, he played ok for 45 minutes and gave away a pen and thats world class???, come on mate get a grip, im not saying hes not by the way but lets have some perspective ffs mate..


7.) 20 Sep 2020 20:37:13
Was that really a Thiago clinic ed666? I think your favoritism is clouding your judgement. He was decent (verging towards good) but it was clear to see he arrived just 2 days ago. The signs are promising and he looks like he will easily fit into the team but come on he wasnt that great.


BTW is it just me who thought that wasnt a penalty. A very soft penalty. If Bruno had won a pen like that you guys would be shouting out your lungs imo.

{Ed0666's Note - I’m sorry if you didn’t see anything but a clinic of passing, positioning and all round how to pay in midfield. He’s had one training session with us and completes more passes In 45 mins than any Chelsea player on the pitch and since the inception of opta stats in 2003 has completed the most passes of any player in opta history whose been on the pitch for 45 mins. It was a clinic mate.


8.) 20 Sep 2020 21:24:11
6Times, I was also not sure about Thiago due to his age and injury record and if it was worth the wages to sign such a guy even tho his talent, is undeniable BUT hey, what do I knew?

Ed25, Thiago is world class and we all know that, including you. Him giving away a penalty does not remove from that fact. On the game today, I thought he was very good for a guy who just arrived 2 days ago. No more. No less.

Also, what's your prob? If we want to gas ourselves over with a truly phenomenal talent then, what's your beef? Allow us to go crazy just as your lot are allowed to go crazy over James, Allan and the rest. You are top of the league. Awesome. Go crazy. And allow us to feel awesome and go crazy over Thiago. Peace and Love.

{Ed025's Note - i have said hes excellent RM, but some are eulogising today like he played a blinder!, he done ok, and you know me better than to think i laud everton players who dont deserve it my friend..


 

 

07 Aug 2020 13:59:12
Looks like there might be an improved offer for Jamal Lewis, I do rate his potential and I do think he could improve playing under study to Robertson and under Klopp coaching. Konstantinos Tsimikas Does look a more established player at this stage and if we were going for a first choice left back, he would be quite high on the list for me, since he would probably cost less than Jamal. This home grown quota that needs to be met though is a big factor it seems. I understand city have the same problem but they’re still investing in foreign talent thus far, let’s hope some rules still apply to them. I like the look of Ben white, but not as a second choice CB, more like a replacement for Lovren and not matip, if he was to leave. Not sure if we’re seriously interested in him or not though, and if it meant not being able to pursue Diego Carlos, then I wouldn’t go for it.

Kman92

1.) 07 Aug 2020 14:24:42
With the second cb I don't necessarily think lovren was 4th choice (or third for 2nd place) with klopp it seems when a cb gets a game, if he plays well he keeps his place. Dejan played a lot at the beginning of the season. I've never thought white was amazing whdn i've watched Brighton, but if klopp likes him I trust him. Ed01 rates him too and I respect his opinion. Forgot about the hg quota.

{Ed001's Note - when have you seen him play for Brighton? He spent last season on loan with Leeds mate.}


2.) 07 Aug 2020 14:35:36
I like what Baraclough said about Lewis. Sounds like he has the right attitude to improve under better coaches alongside better teammates.

“You’ll find him in the gym before training and after training and he’s probably one of those kids, having worked with him for a little bit of time, you have to keep the reins on a bit so he doesn’t do too much. "

“He wants to question you about how he can improve and I love players like that. I love players who invest time in themselves and don’t just settle for what they’ve got. "

I think maybe Liverpool scouts look into this stuff in a lot more detail nowadays. Our team have such a brilliant attitude and high level of professionalism. Sounds promising anyway. The transfer is growing on me.


3.) 07 Aug 2020 14:54:37
IMO if LFC is in for you, just know that they have been scouting you for at least 2 years. If we are in for Lewis and if an improved offer is on the way then I know he is sound.

I have watched him play as well and like I said before, he is two footed, has good pace and has the dribbling ability of a winger with both feet with step-overs to boot.

Defensively, not sure but you can coach that with time. The kid wants the move as well so hopefully, we can get it done.


4.) 07 Aug 2020 14:57:48
Diego Carlos is a pipe dream. He was superb yet again against Roma. Sevilla could win the Europa League and the whole of football would finally see what all the fuss is about. I’ve no doubt he’d be amazing in our team but with the competition for his signature I can’t see it happening, sadly.


5.) 07 Aug 2020 15:46:50
From what I saw of Jamal, I think he would be a very good second choice left back, and I think that’s important to note when deciding between him and Konstantinos, as much as I would love the latter to come through and really push Robertson for the starting birth, I think Jamal is the better choice for a second choice LB.

I think the only way Diego Carlos becomes a real possibility is if we were to sell the likes of matip, Grujic, Wilson, origi, Shaqiri possibly even wiji, those types of sales should fund the likes of Diego Carlos and possibly Thiago, if we’re actually genuinely interested in them.


6.) 07 Aug 2020 16:12:21
So we don’t bid for any players that we have been scouting for 8 months or 15 months or even 23 months. Has to be a minimum of 24 months before we actually bid 🤦🏻‍♂️
On the subject of Lewis I like the lad but from a non biased point of view is a move to Liverpool a good career choice. Robbo is arguably one of the best LB’s in world football and although Klopp likes to mix the midfield up the front 3 and full back positions are occupied by our 5 most of the time. Norwich want 20 mill for him which is a lot of money for us considering we are skint and this lad might only start 10 games next season unless Robbo is injured.


7.) 07 Aug 2020 16:40:42
He's young though jk23, so we're getting a player with potentially 10 years+ in him. And as has been said - I don't think many people on the planet thought Robbo was arguably the best lb in world football when he was in orange and black mate. I thought 20mil sounded high, but is that just because we know we're skint?
He's young so there's re sale value.

And Robbo didn't miss many games last season but there were a few eh. And a few games where Robbo looked leggy. If Lewis proves capable, he can play against Brentford, leaving Robbo fresh for when we play juventus 3 days later.


8.) 07 Aug 2020 17:02:48
I’d much rather be buying young, hungry players that can grow into the role while being a backup, than mid table players in their late 20’s who are unlikely to grow much more as players. We should be looking at Robertsons, not Klavans. Lewis fits that mould.


9.) 07 Aug 2020 17:06:05
Robbie agree mate. I should have added at the end of my comment that I actually want us to sign him. My point was from an unbiased view regarding the player. We don’t have a lot in the budget so if we do pay 20 mill for him then that could be the window done unless we sell more.


10.) 07 Aug 2020 18:54:27
@Robbiesline. What are you talking about mate. Ben White, while a Brighton player, has never played for Brighton, only Newport County, Peterborough and Leeds.


11.) 07 Aug 2020 18:57:04
JK23, what I posted about LFC scouting players for at least 2 years is a fact, based on an interview given by David Maddock I watched on Redmen TV on youtube. LFC had Minamino scouted for 4 years before he signed him, per David Maddock. You are free to prove him wrong with you own valid points. Peace and Love.


12.) 07 Aug 2020 19:19:02
Rm nice to see you have quoted someone else instead of Ed2. You really are the football oracle, I bow down to you being a superior fan.


13.) 07 Aug 2020 19:12:56
We've put a bid in for Lewis so that's definitely genuine, and lovren is gone so surely we will sign a cb too. And then the thiago signing seems to have legs? When it's said we are skint, maybe that means we don't have 80mil for this player and another 50mil for that player. But there must be some eh.

Ed02, if you're about mate, I come on near every day. I understand you're fed up with questions regarding our finances and the transfer kitty. But I haven't seen this question asked yet; is it common for signings to be paid for in installments? And is this an option for us with players like thiago and Carlos? Or are deals with installments more likely to be applied to teams perhaps more desperate for money, like Norwich.

{Ed002's Note - Sure but clubs cannot survive that type of approach for long going forward as the budget will have been spent in previous seasons. I have explained the situation - and the CEO came out and said the same. The business needs to be sustainable and the owners cannot throw money at transfers this year when they have major financial issues. Players can be sold to cover purchases and a little money can be found perhaps, but they cannot run wild and if the dip in to the financial facility available from Natwest for transfers, then they are looking at trouble.}


14.) 07 Aug 2020 21:51:48
Yes epic, ed01 has reminded me of that. What I said is he's never stood out for me with Brighton. But that's hardly surprising as, like you say, he's not played for Brighton! I don't know where I got that from dude. I thought he was some random cb who barely gets a game for Brighton and I was wondering why we were even looking at someone who is so anonymous in games!

But okay, he's played for Leeds this season gone. I've seen bits and pieces of Leeds on the efl show I guess, but the lad doesn't come to mind. I will take everyone's word for it if you guys think he's good enough. The HG factor is appealing. But if he's a Leeds player (and I'm assuming he's their top cb if we're keen) surely they're really going to want and need him in the premier league?

To answer your question "what am I chatting about? " I was spouting ignorant nonsense. RTPs, it's what I do quite a lot. I wrote a fascinating post a few days ago when I'd had no sleep the night before where I worked out how we could sign koulibaly by sending out van djike as a kiss-o-gram. But sometimes I make the odd interesting and valid point. Peace out amazing spud!

{Ed001's Note - he was on loan to Leeds mate, he is not a Leeds player.}


15.) 07 Aug 2020 22:19:31
Lol, cheers ed02. I'm glad the owners are sensible and are being honest, rather than throwing money we don't have around and putting us in more serious trouble later on.

People are stressing coz Chelsea and utd are spending and city too. But we don't have an ageing squad, and the lads we have have won 3 major trophies on the last 2 years, been in two champions league finals in the last 3 years. I don't feel like we are being left behind, just the others are getting closer.


16.) 07 Aug 2020 22:41:20
Ah, okay thanks ed01. And he was on loan from? Brighton? For the love of God please say yes!

{Ed001's Note - yes mate.}


17.) 08 Aug 2020 01:04:55
Lol ed01! Omg, I would have jumped from a v high bridge had you said no mate.

If the lad is decent, then why did Brighton loan him to a championship club? . Or has he come a long way this last season? Because if he's not good enough for brighton's squad then surely he's not good enough for ours. I know klopp and his team are amazing at improving players. D'you know what? I'm done questioning klopp choice of player. And I think I've proved I'm singularly unqualified to comment on this player.

{Ed001's Note - he is young so they loaned him out to get experience.}


18.) 08 Aug 2020 09:58:08
just means you were making stuff up about him. I'm sure we all do it on here talking about players like we watch their team as avidly as we watch liverpool hahaha.


19.) 08 Aug 2020 17:18:04
You're right faith, I was going on reputation, of which I knew nothing so I acted like the lad can't be that good. I hold my hands up.

The only thing I know about him, thanks to ed01, is that he's young and well thought of. I think if we are cash strapped a young cb makes a lot of sense. Someone with an eye on the future.


20.) 09 Aug 2020 11:30:52
JK23, it is not about being a superior fan or an oracle as that seems to be what you want to believe. It is about trying to know stuff and doing research about stuff you are interested in things you like as in, Liverpool. Hence, I quote people cos they said it and and are reliable sources on the topic like Ed02 or David Maddock is. Nothing more BUT I am sure you already knew all of this.


 

 

11 Jul 2020 17:41:01
I’m so delighted we have become PL champions and we have broken some impressive records but I don’t really think we should be compared to likes of the greatest PL United, Arsenal, Chelsea and city sides. I think we’re just shy of them, the one I think we come closest to is the best Chelsea side but that’s it for me. We haven’t been great post lockdown and it’s been an expected anticlimax but I’ve seen a lot of comparisons against the greatest PL sides and I think we’re behind at least 4 teams. Still PL champions though and if we get things right in the summer we can go back to back which would be a very impressive feat. Let’s just try finish the season strong and stop all these hype comparisons, changes definitely need to be made during the transfer window otherwise we run the risk of becoming stale.

Kman92

1.) 11 Jul 2020 17:54:03
Have a day off k man! We are champions! Some people love to moan for the sake of moaning.


2.) 11 Jul 2020 17:59:33
Tbh everyone else can think we're crap an the worst champions for all I care, fact us we've still whooped what's in front of us over the course of 38 games.

Plus I know we're a special team an every other Liverpool fan who isn't reactionary knows this too.

Burnley's game plan worked, Pope made some great saves. Well done to them for achieving something no one else has this season.


3.) 11 Jul 2020 18:02:39
Tbh, I don’t think it matters.

We have been unbelievably resilient when required, if we needed the three points today I think we would of gone up a gear. But with a lack of competition around us in terms of points we didn’t need the win today and I think that showed towards the end. Just look what last season did for both teams.

Arsenal are the invincibles but if your team aren’t doing it on the pitch you can’t really brag about it.

Is Leicester’s title win any less then ours for instance? The trophy is all that counts and everything else is purely for debate.

Plus I think everyone can look back on history with a tainted view. United are seen as great due to the treble but arguably had better teams, notably with Ronaldo. Chelsea had the best defence, Arsenal went unbeaten but drew a huge amount of games and city had a team that blew everyone away 3,4,5-0 weekly. Whereas we won the league in the quickest time and which feat is best is subjective.


4.) 11 Jul 2020 18:05:01
Your joking right
We have lost something like 3 or 4 games in 70 odd in the league and your think we don’t compare
This for me is so far off the mark
Respect your opinion mate. But totally totally disagree
So wise of the mark it is untrue
I’m starting to think only when this side is long gone then only will people appreciate it and klopp as well.


5.) 11 Jul 2020 18:23:08
You're spot on there WYred. It's completely subjective, every team will have their tainted biased way of claiming their achievement is the greatest.


6.) 11 Jul 2020 18:35:11
I think even if we break the 100 point mark and set that record most of the media will still wet themselves over man City than us. Our numbers this season is actually on football manager levels.


7.) 11 Jul 2020 21:51:24
OP, why should we be measuring or trying to measure up to these teams, exactly? I don't give two flips what these teams have achieved nor will I compare our team to theirs cos what they achieved is great and unique as is what we have achieved so why bother comparing?

We are Champions of England. Not arsed what other teams achieved neither will I do this team the injustice of comparing them with other champions. Have a nice summer.


8.) 12 Jul 2020 12:53:26
Absolute drivle. We are up there with the very best champions. Hence the gap of 34 points between us and 5th place. 20 points from us to 2nd. these are unprecedented tallys.

{Ed001's Note - this I agree with you on totally. This is one of the best teams ever.}


9.) 12 Jul 2020 13:44:21
three losses in two years is all you need to know about how special this side is.


 

 

27 Dec 2019 21:57:19
What a team wolves are, top 5, into the knockout stages of the Europa league, they’ve been incredible the last couple seasons. Top manager and some top players imo, if teams like Leicester and Sheffield United are getting props then these guys deserve some too. I am wary of our game against them on Sunday, although we’ve had a days more rest so that may be a big factor in getting a win against them. I think if we get through our next 3-4 games relatively not phased then I’ll say we’re definitely winning it. 13 points with 1 game in hand, I mean, we’re dominating it and the second/ third teams this season are much better than the ones in cities 100point season. Currently, this is far more impressive than that.

Kman92

1.) 27 Dec 2019 22:38:10
Well done Wolves. That Traore is some beast, he could be a top player because at 23 he’s improving almost as quickly as he Runs at Defenders. We need to watch him at Anfield.


2.) 27 Dec 2019 22:38:58
They struggled at the start to get the mix of Europa League and Premier League right but they have really stepped it up since then. I hope they get one of the Champions league places. If Lovern or Matip were to leave next Summer Conor Coady would be the ideal replacement!
Matt Doherty has been a joy to watch and the system Wolves play suits him perfectly.
The fixtures in January are definitely going to be tricky but if we are still 14 points ahead at the end of that month the league is pretty much done.
January has always been a struggle for Liverpool but hopefully with the addition of Minamino and Phillips it will create more competition and a desire to win!


3.) 28 Dec 2019 00:15:40
I really like them. I have for a while now. They play good football. I think we will be just too strong for them.


4.) 28 Dec 2019 10:51:27
Robbo needs to push up and I'd have gini on that side of midfield to push traore back.


5.) 28 Dec 2019 11:53:43
Traore would surely be Up for premier league most improved player were there such an award. I remember mentioning him a few seasons back after watching him play live for Boro v Swansea. Ed001 you were correct in what you replied at the time saying something along the lines of has talent but end product and footballing brain not there and is not consistent enough. What’s your thoughts on him now please mate and what would you put his improvement down to?

{Ed001's Note - his end product has improved significantly but he still lacks intelligence. He makes the wrong choices far too often for my liking. When he does get them right though, he almost completely makes up for it.}


6.) 28 Dec 2019 12:23:46
OP, the success of the likes of Nuno at Wolves and Wilder at Sheffield, show that a tactically astute manager can get results at the highest levels and does not need large investments to do it even tho, it helps. Sheffield and Wolves also have great team spirit which can only help a manager deploy his system and tactics.

As for Traore, he has improved over the years and is trending up at the moment. I do agree with Ed that even yesterday, his decision-making is still sketchy cos there were a few moments where he could have chosen a better oprion on the counter instead, he just ran into a cul dde sac. If he can put it altogethe esp. with the Usain Bolt-type speed he possesses, look out.


7.) 28 Dec 2019 14:47:19
Cheers for the reply Ed001. Perhaps the saying fortune favours the brave is correct. He’s chancing his arm and luck is on his side.


 

 

12 Dec 2019 15:15:39
Also I saw a really clever song for Minamino on the bbc sport website to the tune of scobby doo:

Minaminooo, where are you?
We got some goals to make now

😂 cheesy but clever even though you have to change how the first name sounds.

Kman92

1.) 12 Dec 2019 18:25:10
Ole ole ole ole minamino o o o o!

{Ed025's Note - andrew lloyd webber must be quaking in his boots hailstones.. :)


2.) 12 Dec 2019 19:06:20
Mina mina mina mino

In the tune of ruby ruby ruby ruby.


3.) 12 Dec 2019 19:12:56
minamino.

to that rubbish despasito juston beaber song.


4.) 12 Dec 2019 20:11:12
Oh mimomina (to the white stripes seven nation army) not very original but would give me a buzz if I was minomina.


5.) 12 Dec 2019 20:37:35
Surely the Bees A Minha Menina.


6.) 12 Dec 2019 20:46:47
I must say I am very creative move, over Beethoven.


7.) 12 Dec 2019 21:07:33
I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese
MINAMINO!

{Ed025's Note - thats actually not bad L8..


8.) 13 Dec 2019 00:13:07
LiverpoolFC8 You do know what that song is about, don't you!?


9.) 13 Dec 2019 05:37:36
Hahaha minamino to despacito would be great. Just start with Minamino. then everyone can freestyle their own words from there lol it'll sound like all the other mumbled chants!


10.) 13 Dec 2019 09:58:52
Potclay
It's about teenage angst and turning into something you don't want to, according to the songwriter.


 

 

 

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20 Sep 2020 13:57:46
Last season OX had a period where he was playing at a high level again and scoring every other game. He would be playing regularly if fully fit and starting a lot of games too. I do think at some point we have to look into moving him on just based on his injuries, him and Keita would be two midfielders I’d look to move on if the rest of them are playing at a high level come next summer. Keita has to prove something this season otherwise I’m done with him, he would have had enough chances to prove himself by then.

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20 Sep 2020 13:53:27
Hailstones, not sure if you’ve seen Carlos of late but he is reckless and gives away pens and fouls away at a high rate, it must be his long passing ability that catches Klopps eye because it can’t be his defending prowess, he’s not composed enough to be in this team in my opinion. I do agree that we need a CB to replace Gomez as a next priority if another player was to come in. Another forward would seem odd unless origi, Brewster and shaq were all to leave. I hope Wilson, Grujic and karius move along also because we need the funds and the space in the squad.

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18 Sep 2020 02:54:32
Can someone confirm to me that Sarr is actually any good and worth that sort of fee? The few times I saw him play for Watford, I must not have been impressed because I never noticed him. Also, we are full to the brim with afcon impacted players so I’m not sure why we keep jumping on that boat?

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14 Sep 2020 19:35:24
Honestly I think Gini has come to some type of agreement and will leave on a free to Barcelona next summer and I think that’s what we hope to achieve with Thiago. That’s all if Grujic is actually staying like it is being reported. The way things are going I think Gini and Grujic stay and Thiago if goes elsewhere this summer or comes to us on a free next. I don’t think we’re doing much else this summer and it will take its toll this season, my expectation is retaining top 4 and hopefully we win a cup competition.

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13 Sep 2020 14:12:15
If Bayern want anywhere near 40m for a player that’s going to be available to sign for free in jan (to join in the following summer) then they’re in over their head. Imagine we valued Gini at £30+mill, clubs would think we’re crazy and over pricing our players, but when other clubs do it, it’s just them trying to get the most value for money.

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25 Sep 2020 14:35:01
So let’s take a look at the forwards we currently have at the club. Salah, mane, Firmino, Jota, Minamino, Shaqiri, origi, Brewster, Elliot. That’s 9 forward players, and you think if we were to get rid of origi, we would need a like for like replacement? We would need to get rid of at least 3 of those players for it to be reasonable to bring in another attacking player like Sarr, who I’m not sure is even better than the fringe players we already have. If shaq wasn’t so out of favour, I’d have him over Sarr. Basically, shaq, origi and Brewster have to leave for anything to materialise otherwise we’re overly stacked in forwards and will have very upset players come the end of the season.

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23 Sep 2020 13:33:26
I hope so too, I think we should take the domestic cups seriously this year and try to win one.

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22 Sep 2020 18:40:04
I do think we need another CB, I still think Ben white would be a great addition but that looks far from happening now. I don’t see us getting one, especially since we still need the likes of Grujic, Wilson, karius etc all off the books and no outgoings look like happening soon other than Brewster. I think it’s risky relying on Gomez who has been shaky since the restart, matip who is an adequate partner for vvd but is a major sick note and fab as cover, who I personally rate really highly in midfield.

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18 Sep 2020 10:47:14
I’m still concerned about CB personally but it doesn’t seem like we’ve registered any concrete interest in any at this time, so maybe we have favoured going for a forward instead of a CB, because first choice CB cost more than 4th or 5th choice forwards. I just hope we manage to move on the fringe players that can bring in a decent fees (Wilson, Grujic, karius, potentially Shaqiri even though I’d like to keep him and see him used far more than he has been) .

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21 Aug 2020 19:14:13
I don’t think it’s based on luck Becker, the same thing injuring OX most likely wouldn’t injure less injury prone players, and I’d say that’s most football players. Unfortunate for him, but it’s hard not to get frustrated.

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