14 Aug 2023 10:23:12
We've agreed a deal with saints for lavia I was hoping it was all over this madness ???.

1.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 10:29:47
Here we go again. who will the player choose.

2.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 10:31:13
Imagine if he rejects us too after all that happened I do not exclude that.

3.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 10:48:05
Also seen a report where its stats we've agreed to pay £60mill. If true then what a farce.

4.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 10:54:00
Bonkers money plus reports the player wants Chelsea. Let them have him I say TBH, he's not a magic bullet for this team at his age and experience level - huge gamble.

5.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 10:54:48
If true, and then he does end up picking chelsea, it would be an awful look for the negotiating team.

Caicedo was worth a shot, and we would have got the go ahead from the agent (at least I expect so) to go after that deal. Imo, that's just football and you move on.

However, if you wanted a player for £45m, moved on to someone over twice as much, to move back to the oringal player for 15m more, and still don't secure the player because he prefers Chelsea. It would definitley leave a sour taste in the mouth and really put the pressure on the powers that be.

Alternativley, we get the player for £60m and still look a bit foolish for not just paying the £50m they originally asked for.

As I have said in a previous post, there is a scenario where both Liverpool and Chelsea overpay on their targets by about 15m because they each got involved in the other deal instead of just biting the bullet and accepting the selling clubs terms. I. e. 50m for lavia or 100m for Caicedo.

6.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 10:55:02
Holy crap. just pay little more and get florentino luis only.

7.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:02:04
we wanted the player
If the opportunity is still and we have the cash then we should lick our wounds and make the deal.

8.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:10:17
I can't believe how few suitable, top level DCM's there are available. We can't take another Naby sized risk.
FSG's MO is going to come under pressure with the ridiculous state of the market, and Jurgen already looked and sounded a bit stressed in his presser.

9.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:15:34
Indecision, poor "negotiating instincts" or whatever you want to call it, or maybe just the inability to close a deal for whatever reason is proving to be very expensive for Liverpool. I'm a fan of Lavia, but after Fabinho's departure I'm unsure he's the type of player that's a top priority right now. Definitely seems to be a reaction to Caicedo going to Chelsea. Not sure I'm keen on LFC getting into an arms race with a club that has better resources than them either. Liverpool were better off when they followed a model and stuck to it in a disciplined manner.

10.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:16:05
So embarrassing.

11.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:19:10
I know we don't get on to finances here, but if it's anywhere near true that we could have wrapped Lavia up for 48m/ 50m with no other offers and now he's costing 60m, someone needs reprimanding because it's farcical

Only way that's stomachable is if the payment terms are more favourable based on more money but a longer term.

12.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:28:19
One of the strangest transfer windows we've seen for a while from us.

Mac and Szobo looked like shrewd additions but it's been bad, public business since.

13.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:31:33
Where’s all the people defending the club and their apparent logic for not thinking he was worth £50 mill so being justified in walking away?! I repeat, we are a mess and this last few weeks has been a shambles with us aimlessly trying to get a DM in and now paying over the odds for one we could have got weeks ago with proper planning and diligence.

14.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:31:38
If he's going to Chelsea to get an 8yr deal on good money like MC then let Chelsea have him. He must know he's not going to be first choice. However if he still wants a decent wage and will play regularly then surely he'll be advised to join us. I only want the latter kind of player at LFC, not just money motivated ones.

{Ed002's Note - Why would he not play regularly for Chelsea?}

15.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:32:49
Feel sorry for Lavia. It's been a long saga with us chasing him and then we drop the interest overnight and go for someone else at over twice the price. Wouldn't blame Lavia for walking away from LFC now if Southampton have accepted the offer.

16.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:40:09
Prices are insane. Definitely seems like an overpayment where we are paying for his potential.

However I do like the player and think he has the potential to be a top class player. Potentially world class.


I'm just going to have to ignore prices. I'm definitely hoping we get him now.

17.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:49:40
If we’d bid £50m we wouldn’t have got Lavia because Chelsea have shown they also want him so would’ve bid higher.

Honestly, people are just losing their minds over nothing here it’s transfer negotiations and sometimes you win, sometimes you don’t.

Get a grip.

18.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:31:19
The trolls are out in force today. Its worse than the 13th.

19.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:49:19
Chill - we get someone else.

20.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 14:45:24
Club needs a proper set up, with a director of football with a vision and authority.

Not some retired guy in Germany on 3 a month summer job. Amateur hour.

Absentee owners sitting in Boston watching baseball doesn't help.

21.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 15:12:50
I agree with you, Red67. I always thought Mike Gordon did a really good job running the entire operation. He was able to keep JK in check. Since he's stepped back and Billy Hogan took charge things have been a bit of a mess. A club once a leader in research and analytics no longer how to put that incredible competitive advantage into practice. JK seems to have won a power struggle too and different sectors of the operation just feel out of sync. These are the fruits that weak leadership bears.

22.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 15:49:35
I feel like I have to note too that I like JK, but I don't believe he's perfect. He's brilliant and has completely transformed Liverpool, but still needs a good boss above him. like most of us do.

23.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 21:28:52
If teams stop including release clauses in player contracts, we will never sign a first-team level player again.