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31 May 2022 12:43:15
Ed002, just seen a rumour that PSG might be interested in Keita, any legs to it or would his past indiscretions rule out a move anyway?

WYred

{Ed002's Note - It seems unlikely to me but their new DoF is working hard to refine their targets.}


1.) 31 May 2022 13:39:27
Is that new DoF Mbappe, Ed002?


2.) 31 May 2022 13:53:07
Please be true. He is ideal for the French league.


3.) 31 May 2022 14:05:43
The new DoF will probably have to run it past Mbappe first lol 😂.


4.) 31 May 2022 14:12:20
Plz be true.

{Ed0666's Note - 2 hopes Bob & no…


 

 

21 May 2022 15:39:27
Ed002, sorry if this has been asked already today. It looks like mbappe is staying in Paris, with Haaland at City could this open the door for Salah to get his wish and be back of interest for real?

WYred

{Ed002's Note - It is possible but right now it seems unlikely. Real Madrid have other options they have been working on but they have to deal with a balancing act that sees departing wide players and bringing in younger players as they work to keep wages down. They could keep just two of their wingers, add replacements and improve on their striking options and some will argue that might be money better spent.


1.) 21 May 2022 18:01:41
When Real get Edwards and change their MO, it is going to be tough to ever be first choice for any player.


2.) 22 May 2022 01:20:54
I agree Edwards leaving is going to be a huge loss, let's hope his successor learn from him well.

{Ed001's Note - why do people rave about Edwards? What has he done that is so special? He doesn't pick transfer targets, he has ended up having to overpay on every target due to the terms we could offer. The wage bill has risen massively under him and he struggled to offload surplus players due to our wages for fringe players being so high. Not sure what is so special about him that has made Liverpool fans rave so much about him.}


3.) 22 May 2022 08:51:04
Never looked at edwards like that ed1 it doesn’t make him look good at all.

{Ed001's Note - it is not all his fault. He had to overpay for targets as the club was hamstrung with a lack of upfront cash to pay, so had to agree to pay more over the term of payment to get the deals done. But that then meant we had even less cash for the next deal. Hence why we are left paying off lots of deals that are already done, such as for Jota.}


4.) 22 May 2022 12:16:13
Cheers ed1 great answer as always.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate. It is a difficult one, he was working with one hand sort of tied behind his back, so difficult to judge him, but what he did was hardly earth shattering. He seems to have rode the Klopp-bandwagon, rather than being a key component of it, imo.}


5.) 22 May 2022 19:10:47
Ed001, I think a lot of people are impressed with the amounts he got for the sale of some of our players - Coutinho, Brad Smith, Jordon Ibe, Dominic Solanke, Rhian Brewster, Mamadou Sakho and others. I agree that some of the purchases from the view of amounts, terms and agents' fees have been quite high.


 

 

20 Jul 2021 16:50:50
No space in the 22 for Harry Wilson or Neco, I'm guessing both are nearing moves. No nat either so he may be closer to the door.

WYred

1.) 20 Jul 2021 16:59:18
Neither Wilson nor Williams have unpacked their suitcases yet.


2.) 20 Jul 2021 17:21:49
Wilson and Williams only arrived yesterday. Kelleher and Phillips not involved either so are both out the door?


3.) 20 Jul 2021 17:42:26
Karius playing so he's our number 1 now.


4.) 20 Jul 2021 18:40:05
I forgot that they were at the euros so came back late. Its been a long day! Either way I'd still expect wilson to be gone by season start.


5.) 20 Jul 2021 18:01:04
Waste of time even starting the season. 1-1 with weed wacker fc and losing to Stuttgart. If we don't sign Oblak, Pavard, Kante, Mbappe and Haaland among others then we'll never get top 4.


6.) 20 Jul 2021 21:07:25
The sad thing is OMM is that there are probably fans posting pretty much that on Tw@tter and won't be joking either.


7.) 20 Jul 2021 21:43:45
I think you mean ‘people’ rather than ‘fans’ Flash.


8.) 20 Jul 2021 22:05:22
100% Flash. I'd call them idiots though not fans.


9.) 20 Jul 2021 18:01:04
Waste of time even starting the season. 1-1 with weed wacker fc and losing to Stuttgart. If we don't sign Oblak, Pavard, Kante, Mbappe and Haaland among others then we'll never get top 4.


 

 

01 Feb 2021 21:32:05
Anything in the minimino to saints rumour ed002?

WYred

{Ed002's Note - H was offered to a number of sides.}


 

 

16 Sep 2020 11:25:36
So apparently Brewster is off to Shef United, I think this is a great deal for all parties personally.

The lad needs to be playing week in week out for a couple of seasons if he is to hit his potential. We get money in now to invest in players that Klopp feels can help now rather than helping in 3-4 years time.

If it works out we will likely have first refusal, the player may be willing to come back as we have allowed him to leave for his benefit. If it doesn’t we have pocketed some cash for someone that hasn’t developed as hoped at the height of his value.

It is smart business all round in my opinion and if there is a buy back figure it will likely be lower than his perceived value in a few years time. And he is working under wilder who will keep him on the straight and narrow.

I am a huge fan of his but if he stuck around is he even going to make the bench? And that just isn’t good for his development.

WYred

{Ed025's Note - your spot on WYred mate..


1.) 16 Sep 2020 11:40:37
Do we have any idea what kind of fee we may be likely to get? What was Liverpools valuation of him?

{Ed025's Note - not at the moment snoots, it will be getting thrashed out as we speak mate..


2.) 16 Sep 2020 11:49:28
Ah, well we Usualy get decent fees, I know it's random but if we could get enough together to bid for patson daka, he looks a good prospect could take game time off our front three I think.

{Ed025's Note - i think if money is available snoots then thiago will be one to be coming in mate..


3.) 16 Sep 2020 11:52:54
We would never buy him back. we need to take that myth away. Let's wish the kid has a stellar career at Sheffield or beyond. At least we aren't making any fake promises to the lad.


4.) 16 Sep 2020 12:08:33
Harry, why wouldn't we buy him back if he proved good enough and there was a position available for him? Truth is none of know what the future holds but do dismiss that we could potentially buy him back seems crazy to me.


5.) 16 Sep 2020 12:08:45
Stop leading us down the garden path ed, I am at me whits end with the thiago buisness.

{Ed025's Note - hes the one jurgen wants mate, i would have thought cover for the front 3 myself but its hard to argue with mr klopp..


6.) 16 Sep 2020 12:28:27
The Lad is good today But he is a proper center forward, something we don't play with. Brewster like Danny Ings is a very good striker. This sale has nothing to do with him needs to prove a thing.


7.) 16 Sep 2020 12:43:44
It’s kinda strange that we let a homegrown out to get Thiago where we are well stocked in midfield unless we are pushing Fab as backup for CB and Gini as CDM.

However, with Brewster going, the cards will be shifting around for movements.


8.) 16 Sep 2020 12:43:53
But harry that's how we play today, in 3-4 years we may have an entirely different system.


9.) 16 Sep 2020 12:54:45
WYred

Sheffield might sell him next summer or maybe in two years, we don't know. Not sure what the clauses are but if there are clauses then the price also decreases. We are not looking at 3-4 years for sure.


10.) 16 Sep 2020 13:30:21
Whilst I wish he stayed, fair enough. If he isn't getting game time and playing every few games for at least 45 mins and starting cup games, I don't blame him. I do think it's a weird transfer as he's HG and looked an absolute baller, played very well for Swansea. I just hope we have a buy back clause in, because if he ends up scoring double digits for SU this season, I'd love him back, we definitely need cover for the front 3, and Ox/ Shaq/ Origi haven't been doing it for me. I would have preferred selling Origi to Villa and keep Brewster, mainly for HG benefit. Oh well, hope he has a great career at SU! Wilder is a good coach and I'm sure he'll do well there.


11.) 16 Sep 2020 19:53:32
Don’t forget about our Japanese pocket rocket! I’d say we are doing well if Brewster leaves and Thiago comes in. Cover for the front three looks like Minamino - ox- Origi- Shaq. That doesn’t look too bad does it? It’s looking possible that Sarr could be added to the mix. That would make a pretty decent window for us!

{Ed025's Note - that cover for the front 3 looks very very weak to me redman, the only one who looks half decent to me would be minamino mate, the other 3 would do well to get a game for rochdale..


12.) 17 Sep 2020 04:22:51
If a deal includes any sort of a buy back that would make him a valuable future option and we get 20 or 25mil income now it can only make sense as it's a risk with very little chance of causing us regret. If you asked me would I prefer thiago in our team for next 2 or 3 years or Brewster I'd 100% say thiago. If the buy back option looks good value compared to his future progression then we could nab a potential bargain when Firmino is no longer our no.9. To receive 20+ for a player yet to play in premier league and only 6months first team involvement at championship level would be silly to turn down. He could either be a solanke or an ings. We would love to have a situation where ings could be re signed at a good price or else be satisfied that we got paid well for solanke and never seek to bring back. Sheffield Utd will know that they can't guarantee to be in a position of strenght in a few years where they could expect to demand much higher fees for him than maybe 30 or 40mil potential buy back fee. The likes of pogba and sancho going on to become so valuable when let go for so little must have frustrated United and city but negotiating with those top clubs made it unlikely they would agree to a buy back where as with sheff Utd it could work out for both parties. Ed are you aware if the likes of iheanacho or moise kean for example were let move with something similar in their contracts as big clubs letting hot prospects leave must want to consider the possibility of future success. Madrid have done this with carvajal, morata and recently hakimi all becoming twice their value over 12 months. Didn't bayern bring gnabry from Bremen at cut price? I'm not 100% sure on that one. Are there many notable big players who were used in that way?

{Ed0666's Note - What I want for Xmas is for you to start using paragraphs in you’re posts.


 

 

 

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17 Jun 2022 20:14:32
There’s been a bit of fallout regarding mane and the fee but there are a few caveats for me.

By the sound of it, Bayern were the ones he wanted and the only club that wanted him this year so Bayern had a strong hand.

He only had a year left on his contract so if we didn’t take it we would of had him for an extra year. Pair that with the fact he would then go on a free and he would have another years of wages meant a deal had to be done.

This scenario wouldn’t of made any sense as we have already replaced him. Would of left us further out of pocket and likely annoyed a player who has probably given us his best years.

So yes not the greatest transfer fee but overall makes complete sense for both us and him.

WYred

{Ed001's Note - you also have to remember he has a long history of going on strike when a move he wants has not been made. So you are not going into the game with a good hand at all and it is just a case of getting what you can in the end.}


1.) 18 Jun 2022 05:31:23
Ed001 all so he should have been knocking the door down for a pay rise years ago £100k a week is peanuts for what he has done for the club must have been the lowest paid player of his Quality at a top club challenging for trouble in the big leagues.

{Ed001's Note - no player should need to knock the door down. If they deserve a rise, the club should be giving them a rise. I would question whether he simply indicated he didn't want to talk about a new deal or whether the club made a mistake? I am not sure which it was right now. It might simply have been that he was always looking to move on as he doesn't seem to be entirely money-driven as a man, and so made it known he would not agree a new deal.}


2.) 18 Jun 2022 06:48:57
Whatever has happened behind closed doors, Mane is leaving with his honour and the club’s intact. I could be mistaken but haven’t heard him or his reps throw the club under the bus like Salah has.

Anyways I will miss Mane and wish him well in Germany.

{Ed001's Note - not so sure about that, his actions recently were not good, especially the comments just before the Champions League final. Then the 'joke' about wanting to leave because of Senegalese social media comments. Let's be honest he was throwing the club under the bus personally, rather than allowing his agent to do the dirty work, just the same. I love Mane and I will always be grateful for what he did for the club as a player, but let's not pretend he is innocent here.}


3.) 18 Jun 2022 08:27:47
At the end of the day he has signed for a new team. We have arguably had the best years of him, recouped what we paid in terms of signing him from Southampton and he scored a hatful of goals. We now have a new era with talented and hungry players in Diaz and Nunez. Hopefully we won’t be talking about Mane come the new season. Great player but nothing lasts forever.


4.) 18 Jun 2022 08:44:02
Don't know where this bullsh*t about Mane making 100k a week. He was on 200 000 £ a week before taxes.


5.) 18 Jun 2022 08:52:07
100% agree Ed001, the thing is was it even necessary? Keep your mouth shut for the champions league, especially when he dismissed Mo's revenge mission comments.
I don't think we were ever going to stand in his way as the finances make sense from our view and it was inevitable we had a refresh up front over recent seasons.
Could have all ended better however for once I don't know much else we could have done apart from renew earlier, which clearly wasn't in the plans.


6.) 18 Jun 2022 08:54:50
Exactly, a great player but he's moved for the same reason Gini did and what it looks like Salah might for. money! Nothing particularly wrong with that, but let's get real if Lfc and Bayern were offering identical wGes he'd be going nowhere. Something tells me he wouldn't be leaving one of the two best sides in europe, the best league for a "new career challenge"in germany.

{Ed077's Note - he was massively underpaid by the club if the reported wages are correct. He should have gotten a new mega deal 2_3 yrs ago, IMO.

Also he has won all he could with LFC so maybe its not as ridiculous as some make it seem that he simply wanted a fresh start and a new challenge.


7.) 18 Jun 2022 09:43:31
Klopp – for all his strengths – is too loyal to players who are no longer at their best (or who never were at their best in the case of Keita) .

Had Mane signed a new contract, Klopp would have fielded him all the time next season despite the fact he's well past his prime. It's a blessing in disguise imo.

I think Salah will preserve his prime for longer, so it's a shame he won't sign.


8.) 18 Jun 2022 10:11:11
I don't care what the context of the debate is, £100k a week is never peanuts ? some people barely earn that across 5 years, and have to use food banks so their kids don't starve. Let's let's put a pin in the bleeding hearts please.

Besides, he was reportedly on £200k a week.


9.) 18 Jun 2022 10:19:52
23 goals and 6 assists from half a season on the wing and 3 months at centre forward. I cannot wait for the rest of our players to go through that decline.


10.) 18 Jun 2022 10:48:23
Well past his prime. don't be soft.

He'll be smashing goals in for the next 3 seasons minimum.


11.) 18 Jun 2022 11:18:56
Oh he'll bang them in for Bayern and probably will be up for ballon dor nominations like Lewandowski. German league is pretty pants.


12.) 18 Jun 2022 09:13:45
@Ed077, for a start there’s no guarantee that what was reported is accurate. Secondly he chose to sign his contract and if he thought he was being underpaid at any time surely he should have had his agent approach the club to discuss the matter.

There is a lot of drama being generated around a player wanting to leave for whatever reason, be it money, the challenge of a new environment or a desire to play for a team in a sub-standard league that will almost certainly guarantee winning trophies. Thanks for the memories Sadio, enjoy the next chapter.

{Ed077's Note - but you also don't know if the rumoured figures are wrong. Apparently Mane was still on the same financial package that he was on when signing from Southampton. My point being unlike many other players who move on in search of more money, his case might be a lot more justifiable. Lest we forget, this is likely his last chance of a big paycheck.

And I agree with your very last line. But some people seem to be calling him a mercenary because he wants a move (for whatever reason). Its not like people weren't calling/open for him to be sold last summer when he had a down season.


13.) 18 Jun 2022 09:28:47
Not buying that Ed077,he's moving on that's his perogative but despite what people will say he has gone fôr exactly the same reason Gini did and he got slated for it even the Eds were saying he went for the money at the time. Also we don't know how long a new contract offer was offered to Mane, could be a coupla weeks but could also be last summer we just don't know.

{Ed077's Note - i dont think Mane was offered a new contract last summer. I think its a bit oversensitive from the LFC supporters. Its normal for players to make transfers.


14.) 18 Jun 2022 12:04:52
Mane is a mercenary and has moved for more money. Simple as.

Every player we have signed under Klopp moved to us because they have loved the club since the day they were born. Nothing to do with us offering them more money and them being mercenaries ?.

Players move all the time it’s football. Not sure why so many people are getting their knickers in a twist over wages. It’s hardly like we pay them from our own pockets.


15.) 18 Jun 2022 12:07:17
People calling Mane of all people a mercenary, are not serious people. Just a bunch of haters and petulant children who think the world or Mane owes them stuff. Mane doesn’t owe anyone darn thing. Prolly the same people spouting rubbish about how we should have kept Gini, are prolly the same people calling Mane a mercenary for leaving for on of the same reasons Gini left: Money.

If he wants a fresh start with higher wages elsewhere then, what’s the problem with that? He’s earned the right to decide what trajectory his career should go esp after winning the lot with LFC. Mane is a club legend who gave us the best part of his football youth and he leaves with all my best wishes. YNWA!


16.) 18 Jun 2022 12:08:26
Its actually not, not with me anyway. I don't mind Sadio going he's been good for us. I only bring the point up to point out the hypocracy of supporters with their best of luck Sadio messages while the likes of Gini/ Salah are mercenarys for basically doing the exact same thing.


17.) 18 Jun 2022 12:16:20
@ Mr. T

I'm sure he'll score lots, in the German league. I don't think he would have been prolific for another three years in the Prem. It's good business.


18.) 18 Jun 2022 12:05:38
@Ed - fair comments mate. To be honest I have no problem whatsoever with him moving for money. He has every right to do so if he wishes - it is probably his last ‘big’ contract as a player and I wouldn’t begrudge anybody. Trying to maximise their earnings in whatever line of business they work. People treating him as a mercenary are probably those people who refuse the offer of pay rises and who go to work for live of their jobs.

{Ed001's Note - I am just grateful for what he did give us.}


19.) 18 Jun 2022 12:38:21
How many of us have missed a Liverpool game because of work commitments?


20.) 18 Jun 2022 18:31:35
I love that people point to Manes stats and claim he wasn’t diminishing when likely those same people say Jota’s numbers don’t matter because he bring nothing to the rest of the game. Mane is nowhere near as dynamic, direct or pacy as he used to be something I didn’t even realise myself until Diaz arrived. Same can be said for Salah. This doesn’t mean he was rubbish far from it, I am sure he will continue to score goals, but it was starting to effect the way we play. If Jota is rubbish then so was Mane. If Mane was awesome then so was Jota. Can’t take a narrative and apply it only to players it’s popular to sh£&e on these days for some reason.


21.) 19 Jun 2022 05:11:17
@Rigsby, give in mate, what’s the answer?


 

 

11 Jun 2022 08:31:14
Ed014 you little wind up, ? you reeled in a few big ones over on the united site.

Personally not bothered in the whole who's bigger argument as you'll always think it's your own team.

But some of the arguments over why they are bigger did make me laugh.

We all know how they feel is the best bit about it, we had it for 30 years whilst they had their time in the sun. But now they need to get used to being top four candidates for a few years yet.

I have no doubt that one day they will be back fighting and winning titles, however its fun watching their fan base that mocked for 30 years about us looking to history now slowing morphing into that cycle of spiel.

WYred

{Ed014's Note - who me ?…some of them are utterly pathetic though and are exactly like you say, gave it large but can’t hack it back.

In my opinion Liverpool are the better club and Paisley is the best of them all.

I really couldn’t give a toss what they think as 90% is deluded red tinted shite.?

Some think I hate United and it’s just because I don’t suck up to the garbage they peddle on there! ?‍♂️


1.) 11 Jun 2022 13:26:12
Glad you didn't hold back Ed ??. Nothing like saying it as you see it, very refreshing ?.

{Ed014's Note - never one for waffling bollox! ?


2.) 11 Jun 2022 14:01:05
Was funny reading their responses, but have to say, a bit odd you don't consider Busby a managerial great. ??.

{Ed014's Note - he’s a quality manager, won 5 titles and a Champions league, does that or the Munich disaster make him great rather than a top manager.

I’m not saying he was rubbish by any stretch.


3.) 11 Jun 2022 14:07:01
Ed014 stop waffling bollox.

No way are 10% of Utd fans not rubbish ?.

{Ed014's Note - ok ok so i may have exaggerated! By about 10%! ??


4.) 11 Jun 2022 16:01:32
They are a bigger club than us in many respects. I can live with that.
I know a load of United lads and some of them are reasonable and knowledgeable. Funnily enough they are the ones that do actually go to games. A good mate from school's grandad was assistant manager to Busby. I believe a statue of him is on the offing.


5.) 11 Jun 2022 16:12:32
*in* the offing.


6.) 11 Jun 2022 14:15:22
Ed014 ??? love it.

{Ed014's Note - ???


7.) 11 Jun 2022 15:06:33
"Does it make you feel better poppet"Love it Ed014?.

{Ed014's Note - sorry Barry, couldn’t help myself, again!, he was such a drip! ?‍♂️?


8.) 11 Jun 2022 19:10:56
From the United page not looking a row. But on any given day you can argue United or liverpool are bigger than the other. They’re two of the biggest clubs in the world, who have come through tragedy, down periods and ruled at the top.

I often think the fans have great respect for each other apart from the small minority who mock each other’s respective tragedies.

Also, final point Busby was probably our finest manager. My grandfather witnessed his era first hand and I’ve never seen him speak about a manager in any other way. Thought I’d throw that in here because I can’t be arsed going back through the thread on our page, some muck posted ?.

Have a good summer lads, think yous have a cracking player on your hands in Nunez.


9.) 11 Jun 2022 20:36:54
Rigsby, Jimmy Murphy statue is on it’s a way indeed!


10.) 12 Jun 2022 02:37:38
Glad to hear it, Caolan. I went on holiday as a young lad with Jimmy Murphy's son, daughter-in-law and grandson and they are lovely people.
Jimmy was less easy going, from what I've heard, but he deserves a lot of respect for what he did at United after Munich when the club- Matt Busby included- was recovering from the disaster. Had it not been for his job with Wales, Mr. Murphy would have been on the flight, too.
Nice chatting to you, Caolan. As I've already said, I know loads of sound United lads. Like with Busby, Shankly, Ferguson and Paisley, we may have different teams but we share a love of football and our political views are very much the same.
Keep posting here, Comrade.


11.) 12 Jun 2022 07:29:01
Cheers rigsby.

Yeah I believe he was a strict man and very strict with his players, but there was something special about how he got through to them.

Probably could have been a very good number 1, but from my reading it seems like he never fancied the spotlight. I’m glad the club are honouring as he kept the doors open after Munich, and served the club so well. It should have been done earlier, but better late than never as they say.


 

 

08 Jun 2022 08:29:09
So to get us away from the transfer talk, I can't stand the transfer window. I thought we could have a thread on people's favourite moments from the season.

Mine is the comeback against Leicester in the cup, their lot were giving it the big un for 90 minutes with the usual Scouser tripe, they even sang champions of England you'll never sing that which tbh, I found hilarious for how wrong they were. But seeing taki score in the 90th minute and then jota telling them to do one after his pen will always be a highlight!

WYred

1.) 08 Jun 2022 09:09:18
Favourite moment has to be kellacher scoring and then kepa missing in the cup final, that penalty shootout was pure drama.


2.) 08 Jun 2022 09:56:11
4-0 up at halftime at Old Trafford.


3.) 08 Jun 2022 09:58:37
Probably Tsimikas winning penalty or Kellehers winning penalty where the best moments.

I would also throw in the week where Salah scored after that ridiculous run past City and then did it the next game against Watford. Not many Liverpool goals have made me put my hands on my head in disbelief but i'd throw those 2 in with Gerrard's late equaliser in the 2006 FA Cup Final and Alisson's header last season.


4.) 08 Jun 2022 10:17:28
Fave moment is Liverpool fans chanting Ole's at the wheel at Old Trafford with LFC being 5 - 0 up (and it could have been more if we wanted it to be)


5.) 08 Jun 2022 10:35:44
Agree gents. My favourite moment was the Kelleher penalty as it was technically the winning penalty and that made 2 of our most important goals in the last 10 months were scored by our keepers.

One helped us into the CL and the other a Domestic trophy.


6.) 08 Jun 2022 11:02:35
Robertson telling his team mates to keep going when 5-0 up at OT, unfortunately we took our foot off the pedal though.


7.) 08 Jun 2022 11:08:24
I agree with all of these. The two winning pens, the United spankings, Salah's two worldies - just brilliant.

Taki's late equaliser was probably the start of the fun for the season given how Leicester fans were giving it large.

Also enjoyed the feeling of winning the 2nd leg of the Carabao semi-final against Arsenal who acted as if they had won the champions league after holding us with 10 men in the first leg. Ben White's face in each leg was classic.

Klopp signing his new deal was pretty special and seeing Virg back on the pitch after his long spell out was emotional.

Performance-wise, I really enjoyed the two games vs United, the home game against Gooners (when Arteta's tantrum kicked us into gear) and the away game at Goodison.

Whilst maybe not as obvious, I think the first 40 mins at Palace was the most exceptional football I have seen from us in a long time - and that was without our AFCON boys. The counterpressing was off the scale.


8.) 08 Jun 2022 12:21:54
Logically the two penalty shots that won us two trophies should be my favourite moments. But I was so tensed that I couldn't watch it live. I was hovering around in the garden waiting to hear a clap from the Mrs. assuming something good had happened. In real time, I think Minamino's equaliser against Leicester would probably me by favourite moment of the season.


9.) 08 Jun 2022 12:25:16
WYred. But why? The transfer window is absolutely fantastic for me. Great fun to watch and read. The loonies come out from the forests. The geniuses expound on their limitless knowledge. And everyone else in between is caught up in the chaos by laughing, screaming and protesting endlessly. And of course, there's the classic "let's see how many times we can ask about the same player in one day". I love it. 😂.


10.) 08 Jun 2022 12:36:16
24th October was my birthday we hammered United 5-0,19th May me mother's birthday we hammered United 4-0,need I say anything more, some games stand the test of time.


11.) 08 Jun 2022 13:19:34
Hearing Jurgen had signed his contract extension.


12.) 08 Jun 2022 15:00:31
United away has go to be the greatest day of my life.


13.) 08 Jun 2022 16:21:22
The LFC fans singing "Olie at the wheel" at OT during the 5-0 drubbing at Utd. Absolutely Priceless!


14.) 08 Jun 2022 16:48:37
Alisson taking the p*ss out of Pickford.


15.) 08 Jun 2022 19:55:27
Van Dijk Penalty vs Kepa.


16.) 08 Jun 2022 21:13:18
So many brilliant moments here.
Just a shame Everton had to take the shine off it by staying up!


 

 

02 Jun 2022 10:30:07
I don’t get the hype around this latest story about Salah, from what I can tell it’s come from James Pearce, who isn’t as reliable as he was years back when he was effectively the clubs mouth piece.

But if he moves on a free good luck to him wherever he goes. If he stays in the prem it’ll be Chelsea or city I guess so of course the money will tempt him. But there is no guarantee the level of salah they will get. Look how devastated we were when Torres went and he didn’t exactly light it up after he moved.

If he stays next season, we will get the best salah imo, one that needs to bust a gut to get his last big pay day and hopefully it’s enough to see us over the line.

I think players leaving on a free will be much more common now, players existing clubs will be reluctant to give them huge fees and wages. And other clubs can give them a ‘big’ sign on fee and it’ll still be a fraction of their true market value.

We can all agree that transfer fees have been insane and maybe this is the markets way of giving players a bit more power.

End of the day, contracts are there to end and protect both the player and the club. If any of us could earn the sign on fees the players are offered we would all do it.

WYred

1.) 02 Jun 2022 11:39:59
I would like to think we have already indentified a player in case salah goes.

As awesome as has been, i would sooner get a fee for him rather than let him see his contract out.

As ed2 said, do we really want a player who has eyes on a move. It won't be easy but the fee we would get would certainly help us get almost anyone we wanted.


2.) 02 Jun 2022 11:51:16
WYred, I think there’s a bit of wishful thinking going on to think Salah will be busting a gut in the second half of next season if he intends leaving on a free.

McManaman, Can, Wijnaldum, all tailed off in their performances as they were (in all likelihood) concerned that their big payday would be compromised if they injured themselves.

Also, given how much a top class attacker costs, replacing him isn’t going to be cheap and getting nothing for him severely compromises our ability to replace him, as well as affecting other plans for squad improvements.

The club needs to make a decision right now, make a final offer, and if it’s declined, then sell no room for sentimental nonsense. He’s really no use to us if he sees his future elsewhere and if he refuses to leave then he can occupy the bench and others who do see their future here can start ahead of him.

Personally, I think it’s time to say “Thank you for your efforts Mo, you are a legend, but it’s time to move on. ”.


3.) 02 Jun 2022 12:04:19
Salah has a winning mentality many few possess. There is no way he's write off 6 months of his career. He will want medals, golden boots and to compete for the Balon D'or.

I think it's almost disrespectful to imply he'd give anything less than 100%. I don't believe his contract was the issue this season. I personally think losing the AFCON final without taking a penalty and then missing the a penalty for WC Qualification was the issue. I think his confidence and his dreams were shattered and he struggled to get over it. Kane started the season poorly after England lost the Euro final. It's tough to take if you love playing for your country.


4.) 02 Jun 2022 12:50:10
I’m a massive Salah fan and I’d love him to stay and sign a new contract and be apart of our trophy hunt for the next 3-4 years but if we take our red tinted glasses off I think it could go anyway next season for him.

He’s already showing that it’s more about him than the club or fans with the negotiations already and if he is moving on a free next summer I’d imagine the clubs in for him won’t really care too much how his last season at LFC plays out and whether he’s putting his all into the cause or not.

He is a massive player for us but as far as big games go I believe he has zero goals in open play or assists in 14 finals now in his career.

One of the reasons against signing him to a new contract is he’s getting old and his legs are going so I don’t know how that ties in with we’ll see the best Salah next season when he is 4 years older than the Salah we saw in his first season here when he broke all kinds of goal scoring records.

Another one I can’t understand is we aren’t willing to lose so much money on giving him a new contract but we are happy to lose that money or more by letting him leave the club on a free.

It pains me to say it but as much as I want him to stay I think the best option is to sell in the window and use the money to replace with a top quality forward.


5.) 02 Jun 2022 12:50:45
Who do we sell to and what use is Salah on the bench if he refuses to leave?


6.) 02 Jun 2022 12:59:25
MK Scouser. No doubt England losing in the Euro finals had some part to play. But missing out on a move away from Spurs was the main reason for his drop in form earlier on in the season. Not to mention Spurs we’re absolutely hopeless under Nuno. I tend to agree with both you and Viktor though. Salah is driven by individual awards, so would want as many goals as possible. However, it is normal for a player to taper their performance somewhat towards the end of the season. This is to avoid any injuries that would scupper their free transfer, along with that ‘healthy’ signing on bonus. Personally, if he is not going to sign this summer I would look to selling him and would thank him for 5 wonderful seasons.


7.) 02 Jun 2022 13:14:37
Nunez in please. I think we should sell Salah. Heads gone and we want players who bleed red. He bleeds pound notes these days.


8.) 02 Jun 2022 13:41:46
Dont think we can afford to lose mane and Salah in the same summer, that would 55 goals from last season to make up straight away. As good as our recruitment is it will be very hard to replace them. don't think it's a chance we can take.


9.) 02 Jun 2022 13:42:19
I feel pretty relaxed about it all to be honest. The biggest signing we could have made happened a couple of weeks ago - Klopp staying for 4 more years.

We have a great track record of signing forwards so that is the position I am least worried about to be honest. And I am not even bothered about the fees we fetch. These days the financials are as much about salaries and bonuses as they are transfer fees.

My wishlist is (i) more athleticism in midfield, (ii) be more clinical and (iii) add more direct set-piece threats and goals from midfield.

Time for Big Jurg and team to evolve the squad and system again.


10.) 02 Jun 2022 14:25:32
Would need to have his replacement lined up before we'd sell - Bowen perhaps? But to lose both Mane and Salah in the same transfer window would just be folly would it not?

I like the idea of busting a gut to get Nunez, with Salah and Diaz either side of him - be a quality attack next season I'd think

If Salah leaves then so be it, I think he'll still give his all, he always strives to win things and I think other posters are right and his form tailed off because of losing with Egypt. Let's not forget all the football and mins he played, I'd say he was exhausted too but with a rest over the summer he could start this next season with a bang

That would be my thoughts for life after Mane, Nunez could cost about 70m or so, so a big investment but could definitely be worth it.


11.) 02 Jun 2022 14:33:50
Just get nunez done early and then concentrate on midfield reinforcements. We need to be unbeatable next season.

{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath.}


12.) 02 Jun 2022 15:19:05
Rigsby that's not how transfers work. Like Salah the club easily can make him available and see what's he's market is and how many clubs are interested. Like Salah the club can tell him if he doesn't sign then He's not in the club plans for next season etc. depends on how much the club is ready to deal with him in next coming days.


13.) 02 Jun 2022 15:41:19
There's a lot of disrespect for Salah on here. No shame some of you, Reds.
So for arguments sake- who do we sell Salah to and for how much? And how much do we pay for Nunez?
A little background to the deals would be appreciated, too, please.


14.) 02 Jun 2022 16:04:47
I would guess that Kane's issue was more being still at Spurs and not getting the move he wanted. Maybe he was sulking a touch? There was a squad of England players that didn't win the Euros, pretty easy to pick one to try and make a case unless all the England players went into a slump?


15.) 02 Jun 2022 16:05:05
kopforever, why would the club tell Salah he's not in their plans for next season? What has he done to deserve that. We've just won trophies, were very close to the other two and he was top scorer!
Why on earth would he not be part of our plans next season?


16.) 02 Jun 2022 16:07:47
Spot on, MKS. Salah is a true mentality monster. You don't get to where he has gotten to by not giving your best every time you the on the pitch. It is what has literally gotten him where he currently is as in, a PL and LFC legend. The guy does not take ANY games off. It is now part of his mental make up that I'm not sure he could mail it in even if he tried to.


17.) 02 Jun 2022 16:27:51
Coz he's not in the future plans that's how transfers work at the highest level.

In the next coming days the club will try everything in their power to resolve the matter.

As I said the club can easily tell MO they're making him available in the transfer market to see who's interested and what's he's value coz the club wouldn't want to let him go for Free that's not in the club's interest.


18.) 02 Jun 2022 17:14:59
Rigsby, it's not disrespect at all. I loved salah but he's the one showing disrespect with agent hawking him around etc.


19.) 02 Jun 2022 17:15:41
Rigsby personally i would keep Salah this year and if he doesn't sign a new contract then fair enough but I think to lose Mane and Salah in the same window would be folly

I like the idea of Nunez, but to replace Mane in the centre with Diaz and Salah either side, be a quality attack

Like Adam said I think Salah is too focused and goal orientated to drop off cos his contract is running down - he still wants golden boot and the club to do as well as possible but if he won't sign then we let him go, hopefully on a real high and we win loads

Nunez has been mentioned, but a quality goal scorer in the middle is what we need. Wings are covered with Salah and Diaz so when Mane goes we need to replace him there.


20.) 02 Jun 2022 17:13:16
So who we going 4 then ed2?


21.) 02 Jun 2022 18:42:25
So we're saying sell Salah to an unnamed club for unknown fee and replace him with an unknown player because Salah's head has gone and he bleeds pound notes?
I know it's only a banter site but bloody hell!


22.) 02 Jun 2022 19:00:54
Calm down Rigsby. its all about opinions. I'm fed up of hearing about salah. He's been a king for us but things always come to an end. I think he's been pretty disrespectful to the club. you clearly don't and that's cool. I just want it sorted. All we are going to hear now is salah this and salah that. Its pure greed.


23.) 02 Jun 2022 19:18:33
The best possible outcome for Salah and the best possible outcome for Jurgen (and us the fans), is that this "impasse is resolved as soon as possible", then we move on as it is only going to leave a "Smell" that will linger all through the summer transfer window.

A speedy resolution is the best for both parties.


24.) 02 Jun 2022 19:30:31
Salah's agent and advisors are merely doing their job. Gettibg the best deals for their client. People meed to deal with reality. Salah doesn't owe us anything after 5 years of stellar service and likewise. Posters keep harping on having to sell Salah for big money but u need willing buyers for that. This site has been sadder in recent days compared to losing the final led by uber fan VVV. Almost like transfers matter more than legit games. Just like MU these days.


25.) 02 Jun 2022 20:07:33
Rambo who’s forcing you to come on here?


26.) 02 Jun 2022 20:20:06
Rigsby Mate I respect your opinion but your post are coming More of a Salah fan boy then the reality of the situation.

There's no way the club can afford to keep Salah both financially and sporting wise unless he keeps digging and ready to face Anfield wrath

Coz if he stays then he's going to be biggest distraction for Klopp and the players.

He's agent will hawk him agressively around Europe and we as fans players and manager will have to bear which I don't think it's going to go well with players manager and fans.

The last thing the club wants to be involved in ramy abbas circle as you've already seen him how easily he stirs up the place purposely including having a go at Klopp couple of times.


27.) 02 Jun 2022 20:48:42
Rambo8. talking rubbish mate. People are just discussing it, if you are a bit precious then keep scrolling love.


28.) 03 Jun 2022 07:29:28
@Marty, your assertion that it is all about opinions is just you rationalising what we chose to believe based on little actual knowledge of a situation and / or a mis-understanding of dis/ mis-information and a lack of awareness of contextual understanding for any little snippets of real information

There’s fun to be had in trading opinions but it is very, very naive to imagine that the overwhelming majority of opinions on this forum and social media in general have anything to do with reality.

That said, apologies for the interruption, crack on lads.


29.) 03 Jun 2022 08:55:43
That may be the case WDW but nevertheless they remain opinions my friend. I'm done with talking about Salah, it's almost as boring as my wife.


30.) 03 Jun 2022 12:50:30
@Marty, spot on my friend and mostly they have absolutely no value to anyone.


31.) 03 Jun 2022 14:10:09
I know mate, but people love to have one. Tbf, it's all tittle tattle really and we all know that whatever we think or say, ultimately something different usually happens. Have a good Bank Holiday mate. Love 2 all the eds and thanks for all your input.


32.) 04 Jun 2022 02:17:08
Nice one Marty 👍.


 

 

29 May 2022 06:48:07
Unfortunately yesterday wasn't meant to be, again the game between us two was decided by a keeper. Again in their favour but this time theirs being a wall!

First half I thought we managed and handled it well baring 2-3 minutes towards the end 2nd half though we just couldn't get a grip of it.

I don't care what any one on the outside says this has been a fantastic season, especially since the turn of the year. Yes it end in dissapointment but if anyone got offered this scenario after last season I am sure they'd take it.

Other then the result, yesterday was an incredible experience and still got allez allez ringing in my ears. However it feels those match going fans had their experience spoilt. But by the sounds of it UEFA say its us and the fans say numerous gates weren't open. From what I heard from others he latter seems to ring true.

WYred

1.) 29 May 2022 07:36:40
Maybe it’s just me but I would rather blame poor finishing than Courtois being absolutely sensational.


2.) 29 May 2022 08:04:26
Mane save was decent, rest were close to his body so expected to make them imo. We need a striker who can finish or trust Jota to start. Diaz is good player but won’t be a finisher.


3.) 29 May 2022 08:39:52
A bit of both. Their keeper had a good game, but we just weren't clinical enough. Maybe if we had the Salah of 6 months ago we would have prevailed, but it wasn't to be.
Has anyone heard what Mane's post game decision is yet?


4.) 29 May 2022 08:58:36
Apparently he thanked the fans and the players and wished them all success in the future flash.


5.) 29 May 2022 09:31:26
So is he looking at leaving? Did it have that kind of tone to it?


 

 

 

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25 Jun 2022 13:21:09
I actually think Werner would be some player under Klopp. I don't think for a second it'll happen but there is a reason he was interested all those moons back.

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11 Jun 2022 21:51:02
Ed002 do you think bayern will walk away from the deal or is it more we won't get as much we wanted?

WYred

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I heard its Yerdäs Selzavön, unbelievable talent and ideal for the box to box player, the lad puts in some miles.

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19 May 2022 09:11:23
I best get thinking on who will replace him as a cult hero. He has provided us many memorable moments and I think he will do very well in Milan. I reckon he grabs one against Wolves, hopefully we have the game well wrapped up so he can get 30 mins and enjoy the reception he deserves.

WYred

 

 

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05 Apr 2022 12:21:58
Part of me thinks they will get tonight out of the way and then announce it in the build up to the city game. It may be wishful thinking but it would add a shot in the arm for the remainder of our season.

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26 Jun 2022 05:32:01
I still reckon ox will get a move later in the window, somewhere like Newcastle when they are rejected by a few others. Plus I think his Mrs is from those parts so could be a good family move. Add to that any sort of re-coup on our original fee would be better then letting him walk out the door for nothing!

I also think we will get one more midfielder but it may be a case of making space before we commit.

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25 Jun 2022 22:13:38
I get how on the face of it it would benefit big clubs but I think it can benefit all.

The smaller clubs can try youngsters with less pressure and it could save them millions. Or generate millions in sales. Plus It means they can rotate their smaller squads more and hopefully avoid injuries from having to play too much.

Yes the bigger clubs can bring on some greater and better depth but that's the same with 3 subs anyway. It's just the nature of clubs having bigger resources then others.

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25 Jun 2022 13:31:17
The point of contracts is to protect the player and club but you cannot force a player to sign (my impressionis a lot more player will go for free as its a huge pay day potentially) . Personally if it wasn't for C.V. I think mane would of gone last year. If I remember correctly there wasn't a lot of movement or money floating around. Plus I'd imagine there was a fair amount of confidence Salah would accept our offer. So maybe you can accuse the club of being a little naive.

but the club have offered him a contract, one he doesn't think is suitable. So now we have a choice, let him go for nothing or take an offer. If RM offer 60m I'd snap their hand off.

Not because I don't rate Salah, but I think he's made his mind up. And if madrid want to pay 60m to take him a year early get it done and re-use it for the future.

Itll be a shame to see one of the best go, but Liverpool will always be bigger than an individual.

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24 Jun 2022 17:08:59
Don't find it hypocritical at all. If the first 11 played in all these games for 90 minutes I'd agree. But these are all heavily rotated training matches to get them back up to speed after a break. If there weren't pre season games they'd just have them behind closed doors and make no money off them.

What I disagree with is uefa making another tournament in the nations league that really wasn't needed imo.

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24 Jun 2022 07:43:56
Beckers I disagree that is what cost us the league. Us not beating the likes of Brighton and losing to West ham cost us.

IF that penalty was given, there was no guarantee it would be scored and also, there is no guarantee they would then go on to drop the points they did.

City won it as they were, overall, 1 point better then us unfortunately.

WYred