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31 May 2022 12:43:15
Ed002, just seen a rumour that PSG might be interested in Keita, any legs to it or would his past indiscretions rule out a move anyway?
{Ed002's Note - It seems unlikely to me but their new DoF is working hard to refine their targets.}
1.) 31 May 2022 13:39:27
Is that new DoF Mbappe, Ed002?
2.) 31 May 2022 13:53:07
Please be true. He is ideal for the French league.
3.) 31 May 2022 14:05:43
The new DoF will probably have to run it past Mbappe first lol 😂.
4.) 31 May 2022 14:12:20
Plz be true.
{Ed0666's Note - 2 hopes Bob & no…
21 May 2022 15:39:27
Ed002, sorry if this has been asked already today. It looks like mbappe is staying in Paris, with Haaland at City could this open the door for Salah to get his wish and be back of interest for real?
{Ed002's Note - It is possible but right now it seems unlikely. Real Madrid have other options they have been working on but they have to deal with a balancing act that sees departing wide players and bringing in younger players as they work to keep wages down. They could keep just two of their wingers, add replacements and improve on their striking options and some will argue that might be money better spent.
1.) 21 May 2022 18:01:41
When Real get Edwards and change their MO, it is going to be tough to ever be first choice for any player.
2.) 22 May 2022 01:20:54
I agree Edwards leaving is going to be a huge loss, let's hope his successor learn from him well.
{Ed001's Note - why do people rave about Edwards? What has he done that is so special? He doesn't pick transfer targets, he has ended up having to overpay on every target due to the terms we could offer. The wage bill has risen massively under him and he struggled to offload surplus players due to our wages for fringe players being so high. Not sure what is so special about him that has made Liverpool fans rave so much about him.}
3.) 22 May 2022 08:51:04
Never looked at edwards like that ed1 it doesn’t make him look good at all.
{Ed001's Note - it is not all his fault. He had to overpay for targets as the club was hamstrung with a lack of upfront cash to pay, so had to agree to pay more over the term of payment to get the deals done. But that then meant we had even less cash for the next deal. Hence why we are left paying off lots of deals that are already done, such as for Jota.}
4.) 22 May 2022 12:16:13
Cheers ed1 great answer as always.
{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate. It is a difficult one, he was working with one hand sort of tied behind his back, so difficult to judge him, but what he did was hardly earth shattering. He seems to have rode the Klopp-bandwagon, rather than being a key component of it, imo.}
5.) 22 May 2022 19:10:47
Ed001, I think a lot of people are impressed with the amounts he got for the sale of some of our players - Coutinho, Brad Smith, Jordon Ibe, Dominic Solanke, Rhian Brewster, Mamadou Sakho and others. I agree that some of the purchases from the view of amounts, terms and agents' fees have been quite high.
20 Jul 2021 16:50:50
No space in the 22 for Harry Wilson or Neco, I'm guessing both are nearing moves. No nat either so he may be closer to the door.
1.) 20 Jul 2021 16:59:18
Neither Wilson nor Williams have unpacked their suitcases yet.
2.) 20 Jul 2021 17:21:49
Wilson and Williams only arrived yesterday. Kelleher and Phillips not involved either so are both out the door?
3.) 20 Jul 2021 17:42:26
Karius playing so he's our number 1 now.
4.) 20 Jul 2021 18:40:05
I forgot that they were at the euros so came back late. Its been a long day! Either way I'd still expect wilson to be gone by season start.
5.) 20 Jul 2021 18:01:04
Waste of time even starting the season. 1-1 with weed wacker fc and losing to Stuttgart. If we don't sign Oblak, Pavard, Kante, Mbappe and Haaland among others then we'll never get top 4.
6.) 20 Jul 2021 21:07:25
The sad thing is OMM is that there are probably fans posting pretty much that on Tw@tter and won't be joking either.
7.) 20 Jul 2021 21:43:45
I think you mean ‘people’ rather than ‘fans’ Flash.
8.) 20 Jul 2021 22:05:22
100% Flash. I'd call them idiots though not fans.
9.) 20 Jul 2021 18:01:04
Waste of time even starting the season. 1-1 with weed wacker fc and losing to Stuttgart. If we don't sign Oblak, Pavard, Kante, Mbappe and Haaland among others then we'll never get top 4.
01 Feb 2021 21:32:05
Anything in the minimino to saints rumour ed002?
{Ed002's Note - H was offered to a number of sides.}
16 Sep 2020 11:25:36
So apparently Brewster is off to Shef United, I think this is a great deal for all parties personally.
The lad needs to be playing week in week out for a couple of seasons if he is to hit his potential. We get money in now to invest in players that Klopp feels can help now rather than helping in 3-4 years time.
If it works out we will likely have first refusal, the player may be willing to come back as we have allowed him to leave for his benefit. If it doesn’t we have pocketed some cash for someone that hasn’t developed as hoped at the height of his value.
It is smart business all round in my opinion and if there is a buy back figure it will likely be lower than his perceived value in a few years time. And he is working under wilder who will keep him on the straight and narrow.
I am a huge fan of his but if he stuck around is he even going to make the bench? And that just isn’t good for his development.
{Ed025's Note - your spot on WYred mate..
1.) 16 Sep 2020 11:40:37
Do we have any idea what kind of fee we may be likely to get? What was Liverpools valuation of him?
{Ed025's Note - not at the moment snoots, it will be getting thrashed out as we speak mate..
2.) 16 Sep 2020 11:49:28
Ah, well we Usualy get decent fees, I know it's random but if we could get enough together to bid for patson daka, he looks a good prospect could take game time off our front three I think.
{Ed025's Note - i think if money is available snoots then thiago will be one to be coming in mate..
3.) 16 Sep 2020 11:52:54
We would never buy him back. we need to take that myth away. Let's wish the kid has a stellar career at Sheffield or beyond. At least we aren't making any fake promises to the lad.
4.) 16 Sep 2020 12:08:33
Harry, why wouldn't we buy him back if he proved good enough and there was a position available for him? Truth is none of know what the future holds but do dismiss that we could potentially buy him back seems crazy to me.
5.) 16 Sep 2020 12:08:45
Stop leading us down the garden path ed, I am at me whits end with the thiago buisness.
{Ed025's Note - hes the one jurgen wants mate, i would have thought cover for the front 3 myself but its hard to argue with mr klopp..
6.) 16 Sep 2020 12:28:27
The Lad is good today But he is a proper center forward, something we don't play with. Brewster like Danny Ings is a very good striker. This sale has nothing to do with him needs to prove a thing.
7.) 16 Sep 2020 12:43:44
It’s kinda strange that we let a homegrown out to get Thiago where we are well stocked in midfield unless we are pushing Fab as backup for CB and Gini as CDM.
However, with Brewster going, the cards will be shifting around for movements.
8.) 16 Sep 2020 12:43:53
But harry that's how we play today, in 3-4 years we may have an entirely different system.
9.) 16 Sep 2020 12:54:45
WYred
Sheffield might sell him next summer or maybe in two years, we don't know. Not sure what the clauses are but if there are clauses then the price also decreases. We are not looking at 3-4 years for sure.
10.) 16 Sep 2020 13:30:21
Whilst I wish he stayed, fair enough. If he isn't getting game time and playing every few games for at least 45 mins and starting cup games, I don't blame him. I do think it's a weird transfer as he's HG and looked an absolute baller, played very well for Swansea. I just hope we have a buy back clause in, because if he ends up scoring double digits for SU this season, I'd love him back, we definitely need cover for the front 3, and Ox/ Shaq/ Origi haven't been doing it for me. I would have preferred selling Origi to Villa and keep Brewster, mainly for HG benefit. Oh well, hope he has a great career at SU! Wilder is a good coach and I'm sure he'll do well there.
11.) 16 Sep 2020 19:53:32
Don’t forget about our Japanese pocket rocket! I’d say we are doing well if Brewster leaves and Thiago comes in. Cover for the front three looks like Minamino - ox- Origi- Shaq. That doesn’t look too bad does it? It’s looking possible that Sarr could be added to the mix. That would make a pretty decent window for us!
{Ed025's Note - that cover for the front 3 looks very very weak to me redman, the only one who looks half decent to me would be minamino mate, the other 3 would do well to get a game for rochdale..
12.) 17 Sep 2020 04:22:51
If a deal includes any sort of a buy back that would make him a valuable future option and we get 20 or 25mil income now it can only make sense as it's a risk with very little chance of causing us regret. If you asked me would I prefer thiago in our team for next 2 or 3 years or Brewster I'd 100% say thiago. If the buy back option looks good value compared to his future progression then we could nab a potential bargain when Firmino is no longer our no.9. To receive 20+ for a player yet to play in premier league and only 6months first team involvement at championship level would be silly to turn down. He could either be a solanke or an ings. We would love to have a situation where ings could be re signed at a good price or else be satisfied that we got paid well for solanke and never seek to bring back. Sheffield Utd will know that they can't guarantee to be in a position of strenght in a few years where they could expect to demand much higher fees for him than maybe 30 or 40mil potential buy back fee. The likes of pogba and sancho going on to become so valuable when let go for so little must have frustrated United and city but negotiating with those top clubs made it unlikely they would agree to a buy back where as with sheff Utd it could work out for both parties. Ed are you aware if the likes of iheanacho or moise kean for example were let move with something similar in their contracts as big clubs letting hot prospects leave must want to consider the possibility of future success. Madrid have done this with carvajal, morata and recently hakimi all becoming twice their value over 12 months. Didn't bayern bring gnabry from Bremen at cut price? I'm not 100% sure on that one. Are there many notable big players who were used in that way?
{Ed0666's Note - What I want for Xmas is for you to start using paragraphs in you’re posts.
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05 May 2025 19:27:48
Apologies to add yet another Trent post but wanted to throw in my two pence worth.
I think Trent made his decision last season or after Klopp went. Klopp seemed hugely influential on him and with him going it must have thrown up more questions than answers. No one expected us to be winning no.20 this season, we all hoped but didn’t think we’d challenge Arsenal or City.
This then left the club with a choice, sell trent and add a layer of uncertainty to the club. imagine the noise if Trent left last summer with Slot coming in. We needed stability and that has proved monumental in how the season has panned out. We then had the option of 20m in Jan, but again I’d switch 20m for the league any day of the week!
I do think the club need to hold a lot of responsibility for him going, especially for free as his contract shouldn’t have been sorted at
Least 18 months ago. I think they were complacent because he was a local lad.
However, more and more of the top players are going to see out their contracts as they know there is a huge payment to be had. That’s completely within their right to do so.
As for Trent, we can all say we would never leave the club but we will never be in that position. Personally I feel the goal from a young age was to win the league with the club, he grew up when we were top 4 at best and winning the PL rather than build a dynasty was probably the aim.
He’s had 20 years at the club and I can’t blame someone for wanting a change. I can’t compare it to Gerard’s situation as if he left us I think we’d probably have been in a relegation battle! Trent leaves us in the best position and hopefully with Bradley who can make the role his.
I, like many, are not Reals biggest fan but I hope he doesn’t live to regret the decision. I hope he gets the farewell his success deserves and leave as a Liverpool great but falls short of being a club legend for me.
1.) 05 May 2025 20:11:47
Trent signed a 4 year deal at 22. Robbo and others integral in that eras success signed 5/ 6 year deals. Klopp has nothing to do with what's happened. It seems obvious how it's been navigated for years, not 18 months.
Also the "20 years" pr spin is clever. He played first team football at 18. The kiddie academy is irrelevant. Every spin possible to distract from what it is.
Trent wants a club what matches his ego and makes his brand bigger. The 15 plus million signing on bonus doesn't hurt either does it? He'll enjoy his alone time with jude in the sun aswell which was also very integral. Very close mates them too.
As for Liverpool fc and it's players, I hope we win the champions league next season and destroy them again.
27 Apr 2025 01:28:42
So tomorrow, or today for you at home, is the day I have waited for ever since Liverpool chose me almost 30 years ago. But I won't be experiencing it live as it's the Mrs birthday and we are eating breakfast at Disney instead ? pre-arranged and thought I dodged a bullet after we lost to Fulham and it looked like it'd push into May.
I hope everyone has an unbelievable party and soaks every single second in providing we actually see the job through. Looking forward to see all the reaction and toast (hopefully) with a drink, or two! In Epcot.
People can try to diminish the achievement but you can't fluke a league. We are deserving champions and I pray we confirm that tomorrow.
But for those of a younger generation do not take this for granted, in a blink we could go back to being also rans, or worse the hodgson era. So soak it up, and party on through all the way to the parade and beyond!
1.) 27 Apr 2025 06:38:20
Nicely put WY enjoy Disney.
2.) 27 Apr 2025 09:52:38
Safe to say he's slotted in nicely.
3.) 27 Apr 2025 11:12:16
It's fitting, that, WYred, because most of us will be celebrating winning what has been a Micky Mouse league this season ?.
It'll be fantastic though ?.
4.) 27 Apr 2025 11:46:36
Lol Rigsby.
5.) 27 Apr 2025 11:54:55
Nice one, @WYred. Happy B day to your better half, first off and hopefully Disney makes all your breakfast dreams come true. Personally, off to my local LFC bar where the owner is from Kossovo and who has met Klopp in the flesh with the selfie to prove it so it's going to be a big party should we clinch today v Spurs.
And like you said, "You can't fluke a league title" esp. with City in this league. You simply can't.
Have fun where you are and make it a good B day celebration.
Peace and Love, bro.
12 Apr 2025 20:17:25
9s the new number, hopefully 6 by the end of the weekend. Arsenal have obviously turned their attention to the CL but it doesn't take any shine off what these are about to achieve. Fingers crossed we box it off in April and can celebrate through to seasons end and beyond.
1.) 12 Apr 2025 21:35:44
Could be 6 should we win our next 2 games and they drop points in their next game. First tho, let's take care of bus. at home v WH.
2.) 12 Apr 2025 21:40:47
We should have been in the CL mix only if our incompetent board had signed a midfielder and left back in January. Gave up 3 competitions simply due to lack of squad depth.
3.) 12 Apr 2025 23:12:38
I just want too see us win tomorrow.
One game at a time.
No point getting away from that now so close to the end.
4.) 12 Apr 2025 23:55:10
To be fair Amitabh, there's players there that are in good form that are being underused in my opinion.
When going through a spell like this, I think it's a good time to bring one or two in to remind the team that it's performance that gets you picked in the starting 11.
I'm surprised that Elliott and Endo who have shown really well when they come on don't get more looks.
Listen, Slot has been amazing. Winning the league in his first season is sensational if we go on to do it.
But that's not to say there's no improvements to make. And trusting your squad a little more is one for me.
Playing the same 11 week after week regardless of their performance the week before is in my opinion not the right approach. Especially when I think some players are absolutely chomping at the bit to have a say in this premier league title run in.
I would certainly start Harvey tomorrow personally.
Let's see if Slot does give someone a chance to step in and perhaps give the team a lift out of the mini slump.
5.) 13 Apr 2025 00:14:52
What a first season for Slot. Young manager, a bit inexperienced, new league, and no signings (bar Chiesa and Marmadashvili), and yet we are few games away for a league title.
Perhaps those are the reasons too that Slot didn't rotate much - he is still learning. He look and sound like a smart guy. I'm sure he has learnt lots, and hopefully we will see more changes and new stuffs from him in the next season.
6.) 13 Apr 2025 00:17:04
Harry is never happy, Davey, you should know that.
Obviously his main team is faltering, hence is back haunting us here.
7.) 13 Apr 2025 00:18:37
Klopp rotated last season a hell of a lot and we still fell off a cliff around this point and failed to win the league went out of the Europa and fa cup.
8.) 13 Apr 2025 00:43:28
Amitabh Bachhan, how easy is it to sign quality players in January?
9.) 13 Apr 2025 02:29:09
Arsenal won't win the CL. They haven't got a centre forward. They tried to buy a 29 year old one in January and got knocked back.
If our incompetent board was the same we'd be up in arms.
Then again, Amitabh thought Gattuso and Ancelotti were at Milan in the 90's.
I wonder who he/ she/ they was watching when the Miracle of Istanbul happened.
I'll never forget Gattuso touching the trophy as he walked past it, the angry little tosser.
10.) 13 Apr 2025 02:32:57
JK23, things should be looked at contextually instead of in silos and rotation of squads is not the sole reason for a team to win as there are many other factors as well. Last season, rotation was the issue with us and we fell away for different reasons. This season, it is evident that rotation was our weakness as Slot kept playing the same group of players despite them having to play 5 games in 15days, resulting in them looking leggy at the end of that period. Substitutions also came late, mostly after the 75min mark so the main players didn't have time to rest while the back ups barely had time to warm up. Last seasons fall away was entirely different from this seasons one as the contexts for the two are different.
11.) 13 Apr 2025 02:38:51
Harry’s team signed a bunch of players in January and they are currently 4th and went out of the champions league ?.
12.) 13 Apr 2025 05:08:07
Drac good reply that and on one hand I do agree with you and on the other it can be debated with also.
Which of the 5 games in 15 days are you referring too mate as there’s been a few heavy fixture periods.
I would definitely have liked to have seen us rotate more but the 2 games we did heavily rotate we lost to Plymouth and PSV (which resulted in us drawing PSG) .
I was as disappointed as the next fan with the Newcastle final but if Slot keeping his best team on the pitch for most of the league game minutes results in us winning our 2nd league title in over 30 years then I’m good with that.
I do believe Slot will want to go for the CL and title defence next season though so I envisage him bringing in players to build his squad to rotate more.
What do you believe last seasons fall away was. I personally don’t think it was a reaction to Klopps decision to leave which took 10 weeks for the players to react too if that’s the case.
13.) 13 Apr 2025 05:41:00
PSG or Barcelona for the champs league and either would deserve it for the football they are playing. We seem to be moving away from the pep era of playing slow possession based football and I am all here for it!
14.) 13 Apr 2025 07:51:59
Well it looks like a lot of fans are not really upset of missing out on CL or other competitions. Hmmmm…
Honestly @Rigsby since I am not “old enough” to recollect players from the 60’s and 70’s. I just shared a player name I loved watching play. Gattusso. A proper midfielder.
“I'm surprised that Elliott and Endo who have shown really well when they come on don't get more looks. ”
Why are you surprised @Davey? Slot doesn’t rate them. It is that simple. He made it absolutely clear by not playing Endo and Quansah.
If they are here next season he won’t play them!
15.) 13 Apr 2025 08:43:52
I enjoyed reading those comments.
Just to be very clear, I love Slot.
Think he is immensely talented and winning the league in first season would be an absolutely remarkable achievement. I'm so so happy with him and excited by our future under him.
I just personally think the right move, in this time where performances have not been great last 3 games would be to freshen the side very slightly.
Bradley will of course also help a tonne.
No coincidence either that those three games where performances dropped we had no recognized RB. I don't think anyone we tried played very well there. But with a few more games, I think slot would have found the answer. I had originally suggested Jones myself when Quansah failed there but must admit it didn't really work. Better than Quansah but still didn't work.
My next thought would have been to play Szobo there and put Elliott Am but thankfully now Bradley is back, he is the obvious answer.
Also, I don't solely blame Slot either for this small season blip. Lots of individual errors out there last few games.
Rambling a bit here.
Ultimately, love Slot, Love the players. Hope we take a giant step towards number 20 today and whoever is in the starting eleven today plays a great game and a great team performance.
16.) 13 Apr 2025 09:31:02
The Everton win was in amongst those games Davey.
PSG home the performance was good but PSG are also a very good side. We went out on pens.
Newcastle we were awful but it did come after 120 mins of football.
Last week most of the players had, had 10-14 days international break rest and recuperation.
I’m all for Slot mixing the team up but Im not sure that a completely different team would have overcome PSG, Newcastle and Fulham when our squad players couldn’t beat Plymouth and PSV.
17.) 13 Apr 2025 10:06:33
I didn't count Psg JK23. Thought we did well in that game too against a very very good team.
Newcastle and Fulham we were pretty bad.
Everton was ok. Not brilliant but decent.
Just feel we re not fully firing right now.
Could all change today with a big performance.
18.) 13 Apr 2025 10:17:37
Enjoy the game, JK. I've not got a ticket, which I'm gutted about.
19.) 13 Apr 2025 10:45:08
I agree, JK.
PSG are a better team than us; it's the simple, for me.
Newcastle outplayed us on the day. Their midfield is stronger than ours and they dominated us. They have a quality CF, too.
We have been the most consistent team in the PL this season, though.
I praised Slot early on the season for quickly working out his best team and sticking with it. We'd all do things differently but you can't avoid the fact that his way has worked in the League over the season, so far.
I don't like the way we line up sometimes but he's often proved me wrong and over the season there are bound to be times when I/ we could say 'what if? '
It's his first season, too, and he's using someone else's players some of which he clearly doesn't fancy or is willing to risk playing. I expected a drop off from Klopp not an improvement so that also tempers my criticism of him and his team.
20.) 13 Apr 2025 11:14:17
Cheers for the reply Davey and I fully agree mate. We not firing on all cylinders and we are struggling more in recent weeks. I think quite a few of the teams are blowing hot and cold though and throw in the fact it was the euros in the summer the top players have been going almost straight for 2 years (maybe even more)
Gutted Rome. Would have been good for a catch up. I got these ones in the ballot and in and around the ground looks far more family orientated today. Pubs are empty and club shop is rammed at the moment.
Rigsby agree there mate and although i am defending Slot slightly here I do agree that he’s been brilliant for his first season but if I want to be a petulant spoilt child I’ll go as far as saying I’m loving the fact that we’re likely going to win the league but I’m not enjoying (not saying I don’t enjoy) the football as much under Slot as I did Jurgen.
And what I mean is under Klopp I was on the edge of my seat beit in the ground, pub or house watching us and with Slots more controlled play not so much.
But if we lift the league trophy in a few weeks then I won’t even remember saying this.
21.) 13 Apr 2025 11:15:52
Good points raised in this thread. I have to say that I didn't consider the lack of an RB too, which in hindsight, did definitely affected the way we played and affected our results adversely.
To answer your question JK, I don't think it was a delayed reaction to Klopp's announcement but I am inclined to think that it was the FA Cup result against Man Utd. We were flying high until that point but to play decently well and still get knocked out, I think affected the players. I believe they all wanted to send Klopp off on a high and win it all for him but went that went poof, the players let it get to their psyche and we ended the season on a whimper. Added to that the injuries we had too and that made it difficult for the players to recover.
And the PSV and Plymouth game saw wholesale changes which rarely works. There was no synergy in that team at all, with many coming in cold against a team who knew what each other was doing. Rotation for me would be to make small changes in personnel and to get their match fitness up so that when they are called on, they can seamlessly fit into the team. Chiesa, Endo, and Elliott were not given that opportunity at all and it showed. Throwing them in against a bunch of kids they've never played with before and expecting them to perform like the first team is a bit much, I feel.
22.) 13 Apr 2025 11:21:39
Best team over 38 games wins the league. Whether you peak early, or late or just unbelievably consistent throughout the season it doesn’t matter, cos the cream will always rise to the top.
Also, hope it works out that we secure the league by beating Spurs at Anfield. Be nice fans to have that moment.
23.) 13 Apr 2025 11:43:43
Drac as I said mate I agree with your first post and I for one would have been more than happy to see Endo and Harvey etc get more minutes.
Not saying you’re saying it but I can’t agree with we would have beaten the teams we lost too with them starting in their place but I’m probably having that debate with myself lol.
Good thread this with some great posts to read.
24.) 13 Apr 2025 11:43:56
You and your lad sing your hearts out, JK. Savour it all.
25.) 13 Apr 2025 12:50:12
Say it loud, Thunderbird 2. Say it loud.
26.) 13 Apr 2025 14:13:22
With 3 wins to take premier league tiredness should not be an issue the players should be chomping at tbe bit to get out and win the games even more so with Arsenal unable to hold a lead and dropping points every game it seems. YNWA.
11 Apr 2025 09:53:37
Just had it pointed out that if you stick VVDs and Salahs numbers together you get today's date. They couldn't announce both on the same day, could they? It'd break the internet ?.
1.) 11 Apr 2025 10:03:24
12pm today for VVD.
2.) 11 Apr 2025 10:04:00
That’s so much better than my 4th May idea for VVD and Something Red for the 6th June for Trent!
3.) 11 Apr 2025 10:06:52
Salah Signs/ Virgil Signs/ Jota is sold, Gomez is sold, Ibou Signs
11/ 04/ 2025
Not a bad days, would feel a little sorry for the Jota fans though ?.
4.) 11 Apr 2025 10:37:14
Should have done Salah at 11am and VVD at 4pm. Amateurs.
5.) 11 Apr 2025 13:52:38
Are you not a Jota fan when he plays then Sofa?
6.) 12 Apr 2025 11:51:15
I support everyone who plays in the LFC badge mate - like other I have my favourites and the ones I want to do well but not fussed if we sold them - Jota is probably in that camp for me - I’ve said in the lives on many occasions I’m just not excited when he is starting, I’m not a fan of his body language at times, and think he is easily upgradable - I think the whole he is the most natural finisher we have is poor as he misses quiet a lot of the time it’s just that there aren’t as many chances as another player in his position so the other player get more wrap for it - so to summarise I think we can replace with a better player ??.
27 Mar 2025 09:21:44
The thing is we will never know the full truth about Trent leaving.
Did he make his mind up last summer?
Is it all to do with the captaincy or lack of?
Has the club taken the fact he’s a scouser for granted?
Could klopp have dealt with it before he announced he was leaving?
Has Bradley being back helped trent feel he isn’t leaving us in the deep end?
It’s all guesswork but one thing I think we all agree on is this should have been dealt with last summer when there was still a fee to be had.
My personal opinion is they didn’t want a star leaving with Slot just walking in the door, they wanted some sense of status quo. And it may have helped (hopefully) getting number 20. But I think it may hamper us in the longer term.
I have no qualms him leaving or wanting to try something new. But allowing someone at 26 with at least 3-4 years at the top to leave for nothing is not the wisest business decision in the world.
1.) 27 Mar 2025 09:45:25
Mbappe left for nothing.
2.) 27 Mar 2025 09:54:40
PSG are also state-owned and are playing in a much less competitive league.
3.) 27 Mar 2025 10:12:49
My guess on the situation is that trent was ready to sign extension in 23 but club trying to be smart put it off thinking he would sign anyway and save some wages on whatever increase he would be getting.
Trent grew frustrated with this coupled with his friendship with Bellingham and klopp leaving has made the perfect storm for him to leave. club panicked towards end and offered him massive wage (probably good bit more than would've clinched deal in 23) but all too little too late.
Trent not totally innocent either as not great way he leaving and if we do win league this season I don't think his reception will be great.
4.) 27 Mar 2025 10:29:43
WYred, the question you have to ask yourself is was the money we were going to get for TAA in say Jan like the 20m RM were reportedly proposing, would have been worth a potential league title coming home? Cos for me at 20m, it ain't worth it. No way on this earth so him leaving for nothing if it means no. 20 incoming then, I can live with that. Mbappe left for nothing, as someone said and PSG have been better for it, as we can see.
Now If we really wanted to get a fee for TAA then, we should have sold him after 22/ 23 for 80m let's say or after last season for say, 50m, IMO but I can see your point in not letting a club icon go with a new manager coming in. The optics are terrible.
Also keep in mind that TAA wanted to stay BUT there is only so long that was going to last cos at the end of the day, you want what you want esp. if the other side wasn't doing a lot to get you early on and that is the club's loss here. They're going to have to take the L here for their part.
5.) 27 Mar 2025 10:33:33
It could be worse.
Pogba left Man U on a free.
Then Man U resigned Pogba for £90M.
Then Pogba left Man U on a free.
6.) 27 Mar 2025 10:37:01
The power rests with the player. Maybe Trent didn't want to leave 2 seasons back and was happy to run his contract down, which is his right to do so, as much as it narks a lot of people.
7.) 27 Mar 2025 10:46:04
Oli Jan was too late, this had to be dealt with last summer. I know the feeling on here was he wanted to stay but I see no evidence of that.
Personally I think his head was turned when Klopp went out the door and the club, probably thought they could change his mind with him being a scouser so ran the gauntlet.
When Trent is on that bus with at least 500,000 in the streets he may realise the error of his ways. As surely nothing tops that as a local lad, but then again all he’ll be thinking about is the sunnier climate of Madrid.
I think Klopp, the club and Trent all take some responsibility for this situation but regardless the club will move on as it always does.
8.) 27 Mar 2025 11:12:27
Still don’t see the value of selling Trent last summer or the previous. Well except for money, but I Rekon we got more things to achieve than the bottom line. Given we were heading towards a making a loss, surely our profit driven owners would have sanctioned his sale before this season? ?.
9.) 27 Mar 2025 11:19:50
Lots of guesswork, but unless we offered him a 50% pay cut then the player would have signed if he actually wanted to. It should be clear now that he probably didn’t want to. I don’t think for one minute that the money he has been offered is uncompetitive.
10.) 27 Mar 2025 11:36:02
Does it matter? He’s going, great player, helped us become a genuine force in the toughest (possibly) league in the world and now seems to want a new challenge. Thanks and good luck Trent.
11.) 27 Mar 2025 12:05:15
Who would have paid 80m for Trent in 22/ 23 though Oli? Just like Real wouldn't pay it now. they see him as an "opportunistic"signing to quote Hughes. Same as Juve have with any free agent midfielder going for the last decade. I just hope he realises that because there's no coming back, once he leaves he will never pull on the liverpool jersey again. Who do people think would start if Real were playing Barcelona in a Cup final tomorrow, a fit Carvajal or Trent? would be very close.
12.) 27 Mar 2025 15:37:25
"Personally I think his head was turned when Klopp went out the door and the club, probably thought they could change his mind with him being a scouser so ran the gauntlet. "
Indeed, man. Remember how much he was crying after the final game of last season? Yeah, that prolly impacted him esp. with the announcement that he was leaving prior to that farewell party at Anfield.
Now what will happen on the open top bus (should we win the title), I have no idea what Trent will think and neither do you or anyone else so let's put the such statements to the side. Trent is leaving and that is what we all know. All that other stuff is guesswork, for real.
13.) 27 Mar 2025 15:38:10
@Musiala, relax. It was just an example and if you read my post, you would realise that. It ain't that deep. We're all guessing here, btw.
11 Apr 2025 11:38:24
In negotiations the last thing you want to do is make it clear you are staying. You lose all negotation power.
I worked with a guy in his 50's who made it clear he was staying until retirment but then complained they never listened to his attempts at a pay increase.
Maybe there is a final twist in the tale, but 2 out of 3 is a lot better then 0 out of 3 so if trent does stay. That'll be the cherry on the top!
11 Apr 2025 11:00:11
When the news broke, I'll admit I fell for the noise of him leaving but now I am not so sure.
Was it just the real madrid PR machine in over drive hoping to put some pressure on? Trent has said nothing and I don't think he will until its confirmed either way.
09 Apr 2025 17:34:11
Hate when people speak in the third person, just tell us your staying and getting it over with!
01 Apr 2025 13:06:06
More chance of crouchy starting then Chiesa!
01 Apr 2025 07:14:32
Could he not be on another bus with the likes of Milly and lallana as guests? They weren't able to experience it so a nod to their achievement would be fair imo.
16 May 2025 12:33:42
I've said before I have no issue with it, as long as they hit the ground runnin next season.
Life is for living and they won the title with time to spare, don't forget after the parade the majority of the players go off for internationals etc. So the oppurtunity to do this just isn't there.
And if they beat Brighton on Monday, this whole conversation is irrelevant anyway.
14 May 2025 12:55:30
No issues with it as long as it doesn't drag into next season which I doubt it will.
You are not champions often, and at the end of the season you all go your seperate ways for internationals etc so time to celebrate is limited if you win it on the last day or a game to spare. So the occasions to celebrate like this are few and far between.
I know people get hooked up on points, but in 3-4 years no one is going to remember that figure but they will remember making it 20 so why not enjoy it! As long as we hit the ground running in August, the boys can party away. Hopefully it fuels the fire for the next one.
{Ed025's Note - im with you WYred..
12 May 2025 07:46:55
Ed025 I get that view, but this is someone that is supposedly a red for life, leaving at the peak of his career for nothing and to a club that always seems to have our number.
I’m not saying booing him is right, but I do completely understand why some may have seems it as an appropriate reaction.
To many Liverpool is their life or maybe their 90 minute escape from it. It’s many’s dream to pull on that red shirt and walk out to 60,000 fans. So to see it thrown away will wind some up the wrong way.
Personally, I have no issue with him wanting to try something new. But could he not have had an honest conversation with the club last year, signed a contract similar to coutinho but had a modest release clause inserted into it? He gets his new lifestyle and we pocket something to reinvest.
{Ed025's Note - but we are not privvy to what went on at these talks WYred, what was offered, what playing time was guaranteed or even if he would be first choice in the future?, but lets be honest the reason he is leaving is because the club failed to secure his services by either telling him to sign or put him on the transfer list 18 months ago mate...and thats why you are getting no money for him, as we all know there is always another side to story,s like this..
11 May 2025 21:22:15
AJH, we haven't had the next game maybe we will do the same. Far too early to judge.
Football is an emotional sport and rational goes out the window in the microcosm of a game. Added to that herd mentality and you'll get odd reactions.
I wouldn't of booed, but having some fans feel hurt by his decision and booing. I can understand why they felt like that was an appropriate reaction.
Liverpool is our club and our dream to play for them, to see someone have it all in our eyes and decide the grass is greener, especially Madrid who have our number will sting. Add to that some of his celebrations, his talking gesture in particular could be read it was aimed at us.
This isn't a case of black and white, right and wrong. For some, its complex and they are right to an opinion. But what is wrong is to make out the whole fan base are classless over the actions of some.
11 May 2025 21:15:06
If Madrid pay up, let him go. He's off regardless so take the cash imo. What is the benefit of us keeping him for a few extra days?