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31 Jan 2024 09:19:16
Man I hate the media in this country.

VVD says he doesn’t know what will happen after Klopp as it depends what the club does and which direction they want to go and they report it as he wants to leave!

To the point where Klopp has to tell people to calm down and VVD has to confirm he’s committed to the club.

I don’t know what’s worse, the fact that the media twist people’s words to form false headlines or the fact that people actually believe them.

Beckers pecker

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what you are referring to but his agent has said there have been a couple of general enquiries this week.}

1.) 31 Jan 2024 10:35:33
Only natural some clubs may want to capitalise on the uncertainty - we have done it on the past. Big difference receiving enquiries and courting them. The other side of this may be that the new manager no wants Virgil and they may seek to move him on (although I would hope that was unlikely) .

2.) 31 Jan 2024 13:02:14
Bloke knows he's going to be negotiating a new contract soon. Was never going to say"being here is a dream come true and i want to stay here forever and ever and ever"now was he? a nothing story.

3.) 31 Jan 2024 13:37:28
Agree with Jude Nkunku. He really doesn't have any idea what's going to happen. It's a long time until his contract is up. Anything can happen.

No issue with the comments.

4.) 31 Jan 2024 15:18:14
Wouldnt worry about clubs approaching the agent- Id be shocked if there wasnt. Even coming up to 33, he would be an immense addition to any side still. All about how he feels and he seems committed.

5.) 31 Jan 2024 17:42:34
I personally think at least one big name leaves in the summer. This doesn't include the players that will not have their contract renewed.

6.) 31 Jan 2024 18:46:36
If the Edwards approach is true. That says to me we’re panicking a little about life after Klopp.
It’s only natural our best players will be wary of all this and want reassurances we plan to stay successful.

7.) 31 Jan 2024 18:52:07
Too many people worrying about the future ! Embrace the rest of the season, klopp has earned our support not our questions.

8.) 31 Jan 2024 21:53:27
lol, does anyone believe that we don't plan to be successful? lol what kind of statement is that?

We're worrying a bit too much about things we can't control and then making factual statements about things that we don't really know about lol.

9.) 01 Feb 2024 09:35:27
Ally McCoist summed it up perfectly last night when his co-commentator tried to make a big deal out of VVDs comments. He hit back immediately saying that Virg is just saying that a new manager will have his own players and he doesn't know what the new manager and the club will want to do. At no point had he said that he wanted to leave and it was just the media twisting his words.

Obviously I'm paraphrasing but it was nice to hear an 'expert' finally talking some sense rather than trying to make drama.




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Respect Your Team's Football Players

09 May 2024 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Beckers pecker has posted a new article entitled, Respect Your Team's Football Players

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1.) 09 May 2024 12:38:05
Agree wholeheartedly with your post Beckers with the exception that Darwin's finishing issues can be solely put on pressure caused by some clowns comments. I definitely itely agree with the sentiment, that the pressure of the media and fanbases putting every missed chance by him under the microscope has an affect from a mental perspective. I also think his lack of composure is something he needs to work on personally.

2.) 10 May 2024 10:03:41
Don’t forget he was signed at the same time City signed Haaland so was instantly being compared to him and put under the media microscope.

Then he gets sent off for a ridiculous headbutt in his second game so the pressure was ramped up even further and it took him ages to settle after that.

This season he’s shown at times his composure is not an issue with some lovely finishing in the middle of the season but he has caught the bug from the rest of the squad towards the end of the campaign. Then the media, rival fans and even his own fans jump on every miss like he’s the only one missing chances.

Carragher doesn’t help either. The guy is an absolute buffoon but unfortunately his opinions, however wrong are seen and taken on by so many fans who can’t actually think for themselves.



08 May 2024 09:01:48
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1.) 08 May 2024 10:10:03
Agree with your sentiments, Beckers. Although, I think that criticism is necessary to improve, the issue is when that criticism becomes personal. I have not seen any of that kind on this forum on our players thankfully, maybe thanks to the Eds filtering out the excessive posts, but social media is rife with it. Even Quansah when he made that mistake in the Utd game was abused by our "fans" on social media. And that is not considering the messages that they get in the DMs as well, where I am sure it is viler. They may not be able to see all the comments and messages but it only takes a few for them to be emotionally and mentally affected by it.

I'm still unsure if abuse on social media is the reason for Nunez's actions or if it something going on with the club but nonetheless, we should still be careful of what we say to others online. If it is not something we would say to them in person, then don't say it at all.

2.) 08 May 2024 09:52:18
Agree with all of this, the problem I have is why the he'll are we having to explain to people how they should behave!

Firstly, I really want Darwin to stay and succeed as he looks like he cares and will always put a shift in. New manager, new ideas. I'm hoping this is exactly what he'll need going forward.

Secondly, in response to all the "he can't moan, he gets paid xyz etc" who has any right to start making personal attacks on him and his family because of what he's paid or because of poor performances. there's absolutely nothing wrong with being critical if he's had a bad game or something, that's something that all footballers need to accept. Criticism will always be there. Whether it's on TV, in the papers or on social media.
It's down to how you choose to.

3.) 08 May 2024 09:54:49
Didn't finish last post, sorry.

I was going to go on saying its not his fault what he's paid and we need to try and get behind him rather than give personal attacks.

I really hope he stays and is on fire next season and shuts a load of people up.

Again, a few of said it but if we find the right system to play to his strengths he could bang 40 or 50 goals in.

Let's hope going forward he either ignores the media attention or just deletes all his accounts so that he can concentrate on his football.

4.) 08 May 2024 10:11:11
I agree that supporters shouldn't be verbally abusing players and their families but when he was missing these chances last season was it those fans fault as well? It's a bit of a stretch to blame it all on those fans for Darwin's shortcomings.

5.) 08 May 2024 10:43:24
I find it astounding that some people need to be taught the difference between abuse and criticism but that appears to be world we live in now, this isn't isolated to football it’s in every aspect of our society…whilst public figures can be paid a lot and are out in the public domain people seem to think that it’s an open door to be abusive and rotten! If people can’t draw the line between criticism and abuse then frankly there just a moron with a keyboard, and most likely a moron who is completely unqualified to comment on the topic! As for those who abuse there own players I mean honestly perhaps they should buy a dictionary and look up the meaning of the word ‘supporter’.

6.) 08 May 2024 10:44:45
Beckers, you and I have had multiple debates on many LFC-related topics. We may agree to disagree on some while we agree on others and that's fine and the actual essence of debate. Most importantly, we have always kept it respectful. Now this article right here, is arguably your best work. Bravo, sir.

For me if Darwin and his lovely wife are getting harrassed and abused on SM then, my gloves are off with these people. At this point, we can't have actual substantive debates about Darwin, what he does well and what he can improve on and how. Nope, that's gone extinct now. This is now the era of slagging players off you don't want/ like and making their lives a living hell on SM and they justify such conduct with "he makes a ton of cash so he should be able to handle it". Pathetic and Darwin's fed up with these people and ALL power to him.

Mate, I have seen our own fans online run blatant/ despicable hit pieces on Darwin just to get clicks and likes on youtube cos Darwin attracts interest especially abuse and there is a money interest in doing it. Imagine people saying "Darwin's misses cost us points that could have won us the title". Really? That's the depths of depravity we are sealing with here proving how wretched some in our fan base can be with players they don't rate or think should NEVER have been signed.

It's fine to not rate a player when he signed BUT don't go around slagging him off at every turn like he was less than human. I did not want Oxelaide-Chamberland here when he came BUT I rooted for him even in his difficult times back then cos he is one of us and if he did well, LFC does well. Is that not what matters? Again, not to these people. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. If we quit on this kid, we will regret it.

7.) 08 May 2024 10:54:01
I've now read it and had to check it wasn't April 1st.

Beckers you've clearly never been in Anfield watching Nunez play.

The home crowd absolutely adore him and he gets the loudest Nunez chants whether he hits the back of the net or the corner flag with a shot.

Perhaps he checks the internet at half time to see what people are posting and that ruins his confidence.

If i wanted someone who doesn't go to games to tell me how to be a supporter ill ask the Mrs.

8.) 08 May 2024 10:54:04
Ultimately, this has all been exacerbated by the increased emotion and desperation to win since Klopp's departure was announced. Darwin is an emotional player, playing for an emotional manager and emotional fans in an emotional season.

Hopefully everything will calm down once the season ends and we can start to face up to the Klopp departure and when ready, the prospect of a new beginning.

That is not excusing any online idiots of course.

9.) 08 May 2024 10:58:14
I always think that there’s a certain lack of empathy on the part of the critics - and I would hasten to add that I’m as guilty as the next person. My way of trying to make it constructive criticism rather than just emotive abuse is to imagine 60,000 people sitting in the office behind me offering their thoughts on how well I’m (not) doing my job and another couple of million people watching on-line with access to social media to offer their “thoughts”.

To be honest I’ve never met anybody who is perfect although there are increasing numbers on social media who think they are and who usually make the mistake of thinking their opinions are facts.

10.) 08 May 2024 12:26:07
West Derby Wanderer3, exactly. I have said it on here that there is no grace anymore when it comes to assessing footballers and their conduct and Darwin is the biggest example. When Darwin does something that does not come off, his haters will say "Oh, he should have done this". Then, when he does what they say and still doesn't come off, "Oh, he should have done that" like, that thing thing the slated him for doing in the first place. Gary Neville is the absolute worst at this when doing our games, btw.

People in our fan base (not arsed about rival fans) who do that are just haters and agenda-driven who do NOT want the best for Darwin cos if they did and have empathy and grace esp. if you have played football at all or the CF position, you would say like, "I see what he tried to do there but it did not come off" or "Darwin did well there BUT the GK made a great save" like it happened with Vicario vs Spurs.

Nope, none of that. I think a player is crap cos I did not want him here and if he makes a mistake then, he must be crap and even when he does well, he is STILL crap. I have seen this with our online fans who have had it in with Darwin, Tsimikas or any player they don't like. Again, some of our fans are the absolute worst and with fans like these, who needs rival fans, any damn way?

11.) 08 May 2024 12:53:47
Oli perhaps you should practice what you preach.

I’ve seen you slate players on here specifically Jota and Matip.

You seem to have a superior complex as a supporter (I say that in the loosest term possible) you openly admit you don’t go to games, you don’t watch games live, you free stream them (twice apparently despite us playing dreadfully slow and the tactics and inverted full backs system is crap) and you don’t purchase any kits.

And despite this you criticised the modern day fan the other day. So the opposite this must be fans that go to games, pay to watch them live on tv and buy kits.

Perhaps you should worry about yourself as a supporter before you talk waffle from your high horse on other fans.

12.) 08 May 2024 13:49:57
Sorry beckets but I disagree.

If I think Nunez needs to be more clinical, which I think most agree with, that isn’t abuse. It is a criticism of a player that I spend 90 minutes of my life a week to watch and pay through tv subs, tickets and club subscriptions then I think I’m allowed that opinion.

However, if I turned around and said the guy is a moron and should head back where he comes from then that’s personal and crossing a line. (Just to clarify obviously not my view just wanted to illustrate the difference) .

Nunez is one player that you can never question his commitment. I think he causes chaos and I love watching him play. Frustrating at times but compelling too.

As for linking the abuse to his performances, that’s one hell of a stretch, for all we know he could of deleted the images as he’s decided Liverpool isn’t for him. No where does it say from Nunez it’s deleted due to abuse, it’s just guesswork.

As a final note, you can be critical and still want the lad to do well and support him on the pitch. Imagine, if we didn’t and said everything is fine, you don’t need to improve. We’d soon get complacent and someone else who has taken the criticism on board would soon take our place.

13.) 08 May 2024 13:51:33
The general rule is absolutely fine, there are however exceptions to this, Balotelli and Diouf.

14.) 08 May 2024 14:01:13
Jk23 as always has to mention that he goes to anfield. Well done.

15.) 08 May 2024 14:27:45
Nunez gets a lot of support at matches, was a bit quiet on Sunday though - maybe just in my area of the ground?

16.) 08 May 2024 14:38:28
JK23, now I know for a fact that you have no idea of what you are reading or whether you read anything at all. Ed01 called you on it the other day and now I know he was right. So let's unpack this. I have criticised players not only Jota and Matip but Naby and whoever else for not pulling their weight. Shoot, I didn't want Ox here to begin with for heaven's sake and I made it known at the time. I criticise Klopp as well, btw.

What I have NEVER done is to abuse them and their families. What I do is criticise their actual play and how they may or may not be good enuff or how they can improve. NEVER have I said they are terrible human beings and want them gone. Also, you saying that I have criticised fans for going to games or buying kits (cos I don't) is patently false cos I have NO time nor the money for such things (and I said so) so how is that an insult to those who do these things? More proof that you have NO idea what you are reading and you being a liar. Absolute rubbish.

Me? A sense of superiority? You NEVER miss a chance to tell anyone on here that you go to games all the time lauding that over everyone as if that makes your opinion more valid. Even on this thread, Beckers is talking about those who abuse Darwin and his family online and you responded by talking about the support Darwin gets from people who go to games just to make it about you. News flash: Beckers was NOT talking about ANY of that nor is this topic about you so try to keep up and once again, read what people write. Yeah, maybe it is you who needs to take your own advice, Einstein.

And mate, only heaven knows where you got the idea that cos I don't watch games live (cos I can't), I stream them off dodgy streams and all this rubbish. Your projection (something you are notorious for) is only matched by your shambolic false accusations. Do better.

17.) 08 May 2024 14:46:13
Turn off the internet for a while and give everyone a break from it.

18.) 08 May 2024 14:58:53
That’s a good idea and all that Mcgoveb, but how would back bench Tory MP’s be able to look at pictures of tractors.

19.) 08 May 2024 15:22:33
Walkon do you not go to Anfield then?

Well done.

Non going match day Super fans are like buses on here.

20.) 08 May 2024 15:23:32
oli i didn't even bother to read that reply.

Save your internet data mate, you have 2 games left to stream (well 4 technically Mr i watch every game twice)

21.) 08 May 2024 17:04:34
I won't be told how to behave by JK23 who piles into other posters after having half read, or perhaps fully read and not quite grasped, their posts. He sets up straw men so he can knock them down which is so easy to do.

I've been going to Anfield since the mid sixties and have criticised players from Peter Thompson and Ian Callaghan to Darwin Nunez and Luis Diaz without resorting to abuse and hope I would have the courage to repeat that criticisms to the players' faces if I was fortunate enough to meet them unlike the keyboard cowards that Beckers was talking about.

22.) 08 May 2024 17:31:20
Kemlyn where have I told how to behave?

23.) 08 May 2024 18:43:27
JK23 I think you're fully in defensive mode! The point is that keyboard warriors who make things personal to any player or a member of their family on SM or at the ground are not the sort of people we need in society. I personally agree with this.

Do you agree with this? Or do you think it is ok to threaten, mock, ridicule players and there families?

DISCLAIMER - your seat at Anfield is not under threat of you answer this.

24.) 08 May 2024 19:39:19
SzSz8, JK doesn't need me to fight his battles, but he's not advocating mocking or abusing our players. He's picked me up in the past when i've had a pop about one of ours, particularly Gravenberch.

Ive not been going to games as long as Kemlyn, but he's right, supporters have always had a go at certain players, it doesn't make them any less of a supporter. What's obviously changed since Kemlyn and me started going is the advent of social media. I 100% agree that when things get personal, then that is way over the line, but giving one's view point on a player, so long as it's not abusive is perfectly acceptable. For the record, I don't think Nunez will ever cut it with us. However, I will always sing his name as loud as the next man or woman. I'm not sure if that makes me an hypocrite; I will take it on the chin if it does.

25.) 08 May 2024 20:08:25
Szsz8, keyboard warriors have always been in society it’s just social media has provided a tool for them to be heard.

The concept of social media was to help contact friends or people you lost contact with. Not type abuse at people (not just footballers) that you’ll never meet.

Add to all that that ‘hate’ creates impressions and comments from people calling it out and it really isn’t great for humanity. Hopefully it proves to be a fad we all laugh at in 20 years but I fear it’s here to stay.

As for JK, I’m sure he can defend himself but most of his comments I read are sarcasm or tounge in cheek but some take it seriously. Too seriously at times!

26.) 08 May 2024 20:23:01
Criticise the player's ability or their attitude, if it's bad, but don't abuse them personally (unless it's Diouf or Owen) .

27.) 08 May 2024 20:35:44
Szsz thank god my seat isn't under threat last thing you need is more people trying to pinch your streams bandwidth.

I’m not sure where I’ve said or hinted it’s ok to threaten or abuse players but to answer your question absolutely not.

For me fans who threaten or abuse players aren’t real supporters but I also can’t get my head around Darwin sat in the house at night reading the thousands upon thousands of messages or comments he would probably get daily.

Especially seems as he cannot speak English.

Nunez is a massive fan favourite and the support he gets in the ground or any away ground (sorry to mention that again as I know that triggers some) is second to none.

28.) 08 May 2024 20:56:43
WYred thanks for the education, not needed but if it made you feel good I'm happy.

As for sarcasm did you miss it in my post?

Anyway it was a simple question, why the tangent?

29.) 08 May 2024 21:03:02
Rome 1977! I was just asking a question, JK23 loves to change the narrative to suit his 'SARCASM' (that's for you WYred) so why is it so bad that I do it?

Seriously only joined in because of the constant I got a ticket at Anfield constant blabber, if it was just now and then but it's all the time! I will be quite now, ??.

30.) 08 May 2024 21:23:38
How many here abused Keita and Suarez or can you choose who it's OK to abuse?

31.) 08 May 2024 21:34:53
JK23 you used the same joke twice in the same thread, I expected better.

I asked you a question, you answered, that's great. I never said anything about anything else.

Pleased you managed to get the away games bit in aswell, glad I could help with your triggering of others ?

Can you hold a sign up on Monday night saying SzSz8 is my favourite poster please, I just hope my stream doesn't buffer ?.

32.) 08 May 2024 21:40:53
Szsz you’re always welcome to join me at Anfield. I’ll even get the beers in.

No hard feelings here and I love the sarcasm back as much as I like to give it after all it’s a banter page.

Amazing how this started as we shouldn’t be hurting people’s feelings on the internet bandwagon and turned into a slanging match ?.

I’ll also keep QUITE as well. I’ll probably stay quiet also ?.

33.) 08 May 2024 21:58:22
JK23 I struggle to be QUIET, in fairness more than I do to spell it ?

Free beer, now that's an offer but I'd rather have your seat as I only get tickets for 4/ 5 games a year ?

I was serious about the sign then, DARE YOU! ?.

34.) 08 May 2024 22:23:13
Glad we've all made up, chaps!

35.) 08 May 2024 22:54:57
JK for your information I do go to games, not as many as when I had a season ticket as I’ve now moved out of Liverpool but that is totally irrelevant to what I was saying. Very presumptuous of you though and as per usual, totally incorrect.

I know Nunez gets support in the ground but there are also dissenting voices too. I’ve heard a guy in front of me screaming and swearing about how he feels Nunez isn’t good enough (using language I can’t use on here) to the point where a few of us had to tell him to shut up.

It’s funny how people like you think that paying for a ticket gives you some kind of power to say what you like. Like you have some kind of ownership of the club because you go to games?

Let me tell you what your role actually is when you go to a game because you clearly don’t understand. Just support the team as a whole and the players individually. Honestly I promise you the players will play much better knowing they have 60,000 people fighting their corner rather than moaning at every misplaced pass or missed chance.

I first started going to Anfield in 1983 at the age of 6 and I can tell you that the way fans act at games today is totally different to how it was then. We used to shout, cheer, encourage, support. These days there’s too many entitled, immature morons who think supporting a football team means winning every week and when it doesn’t happen they want to shout about how hard done by they are and how everyone should be sacked for not giving them what they want.

It baffles me. Why support a team if losing affects you like that? Losing is part of the game, missing chances is part of the game, mistakes are part of the game. If you want to resort to abuse and blaming every time it happens then you simply can’t call yourself a supporter.

36.) 08 May 2024 23:13:44
It's not ok to abuse Diouf, Keita, Suarez or anyone. If you do is your behaviour any better than theirs?

Could this Nunez thing not be being exaggerated? I don't know and I'm not clued up on SM but I know the media are always looking for stories. Like the Salah and Klopp, Guardiola and Haaland and Haaland and Keane disagreements being fed to us, we react and then they become newsworthy.
It only becomes a scandal if enough people think it's scandalous and we are led to believe it is.

{Ed002's Note - One would hope that nobody is using this as an excuse to try and influence a transfer. Nunez has not worked out as well as hoped but I am not aware of plans to sell him.}

37.) 08 May 2024 23:39:13
Here’s a supporter wishing for the chance to go to Anfield weekly!
I’ve only ever saw them once in person and that’s during pre season tour. Absolutely crazy ticket prices but we saved up, got the one we could afford and that was the only in person game we ever had
Wished we had the privilege of attending games at Anfield weekly, hope that we’ll at least get to a game at Anfield at least once in our life time

But guess I’m now a non Anfield attending super fan by some standards here.

38.) 09 May 2024 01:15:21
Rigsby is correct, abuse is abuse and the same is true for opposition players.

None of it is “OK” but it is part of the game and has been ever thus.

39.) 09 May 2024 02:25:20
Out of curiosity @JK, when did you first go to a match at Anfield? For me it was 1960, apparently (so my dad said) and I went regularly to home matches and frequently to away matches unti 189 when I went off to see the big wide world. It’s a bit difficult getting to matches from Sydney these days but it is a source of constant joy and reassurance that you confirm you are there week in and week out. Keep up the good work.

40.) 09 May 2024 07:11:59
Like loose women on here.

First of all I'd like to hold my hands up and apologise to Walkon.

That was a rubbish comment on my behalf and I've fired from the hip. Same for Sgynwa, i actually enjoy reading your posts and i my rubbish comment brought you to the conclusion that i was calling all non match going fans super fans which wasn't the case so again apology.

SZSZ because you've dared me ill have to now. I'll spend a few hours this weekend on a sign. Any particular font or colour.

Beckers, the old i used to have a season ticket but i gave it up is a great story, its a very popular story but a great one albeit. Reminds me of the time i had to give up going to the playboy mansion every week as i also moved.

I hope your campaign to stop online abuse goes well and i'm sure using the terminology nuckledraggers and morons will really counter act the online abuse we see.

WDW some innings that is fair play.

41.) 09 May 2024 07:59:24
JK23 just put SzSz8 in block capitals, obviously in red letters and I recommend a white A0 card so it can hold sturdy in all weather conditions.

42.) 09 May 2024 08:24:07
Ed002, that's a point. I should imagine that some agents are as bad as the media with their 'creativity'. Some players and club officials, too.

43.) 09 May 2024 08:41:55
'Like loose women on here'

Love it JK.

44.) 09 May 2024 11:10:11
What are you on about JK?

You are just sounding foolish now but that certainly isn’t the first time.

I’m sure we can all rest easy knowing the club is in good hands with people like you going to the games.



29 Apr 2024 09:03:59
Not enough has been made of Anthony Taylor preventing Gakpo sticking the ball in the net.

What’s worse is he realised his mistake and covered it up by called the trainer on for the keeper when he wasn’t even asking for it!

It was absolutely scandalous and Taylor should be held accountable why is nobody talking about it?

Beckers pecker

1.) 29 Apr 2024 09:43:39
Because it make no real difference. Maybe more should have been said but nobody really cares.

2.) 29 Apr 2024 10:03:18
Because every level headed person has already accepted that our season is dead mate. The life has been sucked out of the season to such and extent most of us are not even getting angry anymore when horrible decisions go against us. Paqueta should've been sent off as well for a leg breaking challenge very early in the game, and he wasn't even booked. This is what happens when the manager and the players stop caring; the fans do to.

3.) 29 Apr 2024 10:04:57
It's more worrying that the ref was waving play on if he had concerns about a head injury.
But he was more bothered about how he'd come out of the situation than he was about Areola. Areola was ok and made the mistake but Taylor didn't want the fallout from that.
There was another in the Arsenal v Bayern CL game at the Emirates.
You can't just stop the game because a player thinks that the game has been stopped.

4.) 29 Apr 2024 10:11:42
That would be possible 9 points lost through incompetence of certain referees and var throughout this season. I wonder how many decisions gone against man city or Arsenal?

5.) 29 Apr 2024 11:34:28
In fairness our end of season Jonestown impersonation has made the refereeing disasters irrelevant at this point. For every Spurs or Arsenal game there’s a Crystal Palace or Everton where we pressed the self destruct on our own without any need for interference from the ref. No one but ourselves to blame at this point. That said, there isn’t one competent ref among the current shower, you could sack the lot tomorrow and give it to sone randoms out the job centre and no one could tell a difference.

6.) 29 Apr 2024 13:01:36
To follow on from a few of the comments above - think of it this way. At the start of the season if somebody would have said Klopp was going we would all (mostly) have been horrified.

Now - it is almost a relief that this season is ending and there’s a fresh start coming.

7.) 29 Apr 2024 16:56:51
Rigsby, Taylor had to make up that stunt in real time cos he knew he screwed up and had Gakpo scored, what would have been his excuse esp. with the howler of a game he had in the Forrest v Everton game with 3 blatant pens not given.

Can you imagine what would have happened had we still had a fair shot at the title and that happened? Trust me, PGMOL would have nowhere to hide and trust me, the lawsuits would be flying out the shelves from the AXA Center.

{Ed025's Note - but tell me this Oli, why the hell did Gakpo not just put the ball in the net anyway?..

8.) 29 Apr 2024 20:19:44
Ed25, Gakpo was going to do that BUT Taylor panicked (why? I have no idea) and then inexplicably blows the whistle and Gakpo had to stop, which tells you that Taylor knew he screwed up.

That's why Gakpo did not score. Worse thing is that had Gakpo scored and Taylor awarded the goal, he would have been right to do so cos that is applying the letter of the law. Areola would have looked a right dunce, for sure.

{Ed025's Note - it was a strange one Oli thats for sure, just another in a long line of refereeing cock ups that we have come to expect i suppose mate..

9.) 29 Apr 2024 22:04:42
Jonestown comparison to a few games of football - classy.



17 Mar 2024 23:48:24
I see the same old posters are back now we’ve lost a game.

Don’t hear a peep from them for weeks then when we lose it’s like all of their negative criticism is vindicated.

See, I told you Klopp’s subs were rubbish! Completely ignoring the fact that our subs have been involved in more goals than anyone else’s this season.

Or see, I told you Klopp has lost it. Completely ignoring the fact that he’s got us in a title race, already won a trophy and to the quarter final of 2 others.

Honestly, how arrogant and entitled do you have to be to expect a team you ‘support’ to win every single game? Then when they don’t you want to criticise everyone involved and say how poor they’ve been all along ignoring all of the great things they’ve been doing all season.

It’s football, sometimes you lose if you can’t handle that then watch something else.

A quadruple has never been done because it’s incredibly hard to do. Almost impossible to do in fact. We are amazingly lucky that we support a team that even talks about it.

I’m sick of fans that just want to be critical and pray for the day we lose so they can somehow confirm their criticism was justified.

Beckers pecker

1.) 18 Mar 2024 02:26:00
Beckers. Maybe as I don’t pay attention to when others post but I’m here win lose or draw. So if you’re aiming that at me, you may need to get your facts straight before typing.

I’ll just speak for myself here and not the others you seem to be addressing. All I want is to be the best team and win everything like any other fan. So let’s quit the holier than thou fan stuff. Because one things for sure. You ain’t above me in terms of supporting this club. Same way I ain’t above you.

I want Klopp to get the send off he deserves. I have stated that from when the quadruple was a reality, all the way through that period and still maintain that (now treble) until the end of the season. But this not allowed to criticise Klopp thing some have I will simply not abide by. Simple as that!

2.) 18 Mar 2024 02:40:30
Very well said mate, a loss today wasn't what any of us wanted but it happens. We move on, we're very lucky overall to be in the position we are in. I for one am very grateful for the position the club has put us in, long may it continue and we must enjoy it while it lasts because although I see us doing very well for many years to come, nothing lasts forever.

The doom and gloom merchants need to wake up and see exactly what is going on at the moment. One loss vs a rival, I think most aren't even bothered about the FA cup, they're more fussed that we lost to Utd. We move on, these things happen. Fair play to them, they won it and we didn't, it is what it is, we can't change it we learn from it. Plenty more to play for.

Just enjoy the rest of the season, Klopps last. We're doing incredibly well and nobody would've imagined us to do this well this season, we're already exceeding expectations. Enjoy the moment and look forward to the next few months because it's going to be one hell of a ride.

3.) 18 Mar 2024 02:41:32
It was a proper cup game that we didn’t manage very well
Could be tired bodies out there but we surely had enough quality and chances to win it, thereby the frustrations

But I agree there is no need for over the top criticism l.
The very Nunez and Elliot that made the mistakes that arguably cost us the game were also the ones who made the chances or scored to keep us in it

The subs that were made did blunt us but I’m unsure if we did be any happier if Salah and Szoboslai stayed on and got injured

We just need to get things right and win at OT in the PL

Somehow how they have been crap but we haven’t beaten them this season! Feels abit like role reversal where we were not winning anything but always showed up to nick pts off utd to affect their title races in the 2000s.

4.) 18 Mar 2024 03:17:24
I’ve not seen anyone slate the team to any unjustifiable extent.
The subs killed us. That’s about all we can say.

5.) 18 Mar 2024 07:11:12
Take your point Beckers. I think it’s just frustration cos we had our foot on their throat and let them escape. And it’s them.
As i said, fair play to Utd, they gambled and we weren’t clinical enough to take advantage. The day when Jota’s absence finally bit.
Fingers crossed we don’t pick up any more injuries and we take all that frustration out on Brighton at the end of the month.

6.) 18 Mar 2024 07:15:39
Said it before and I’ll say it again - forums like this are a hive of activity when we don’t win and then tumbleweed when we do win.

7.) 18 Mar 2024 07:30:52
Your first sentence sums it up perfectly for me. We didn’t manage the game very well. It is what it is?‍♂️

Reminds me of the years when Liverpool were crap and hung onto the odd cup win to somehow stay relevant. That’s United today.

8.) 18 Mar 2024 07:40:29
Anyone thinking that losing such a tight game at a place like Old Trafford has wrecked our season or made Klopp a failure is simply following the wrong sport.
And if you're going to criticise Klopp and the players on here after yesterday and the immense effort they've put in this season then you can expect to be called out on it.
And rightly so.
If you can't handle it back, don't dish it out in the first place.

9.) 18 Mar 2024 08:45:42
There are things to be critical about yesterdays game. But something i keep reminding people about. How many first choice players were still unavailable? Jota, Trent, Konate, Jones, Alisson. I thinl all oif us, myself included, need to remember the terriblke injury list we've had, and still get to where we are. A full squad and maybe the quad was on, but its asking a hell of a lot without that number of players and the knock on effect on others who are playing more than they would. The premier league is the big one. UP THE REDS.

10.) 18 Mar 2024 08:49:44
As long as everyone learns from it then we can achieve great things. Win the next PL game is all that matters and is more important.

11.) 18 Mar 2024 10:16:21
It’s absolutely aimed at you Alonso and posters like Mango too.

You were all over these pages last season and at the start of this telling anyone who would listen about how poor Klopp’s substitutions are but then the unthinkable happened, his subs have made a real difference all season.

Did I see you posting about how wrong you were? You might have done but I certainly didn’t see it.

Then in one game when his subs didn’t work months later you pipe up saying you were right all along?

Klopp’s not perfect mate but then nor should he be. No human being is ever perfect but if you’re going to criticise it has to be based on actual real evidence. The evidence this season far outweighs your argument but you just couldn’t wait to feel relevant again could you?

Same with Mango. Last season he was full of how Klopp is finished but then we’re top of the league and chasing a quad so we don’t hear from him.

We lose one game and he’s back telling us how ‘limited’ Klopp is and how a new manager is needed. Again the evidence far outweighs his argument but a defeat makes him feel relevant again so he’s loving it.

But then you expect these players and the manager to run through brick walls and give you everything when you can’t even give them your support when things don’t go their way.

It’s shocking mate there’s no other word for it.

12.) 18 Mar 2024 11:16:25
steviep62 I wouldn't use the Injuries as an excuse, United had them yesterday. United were missing a few starters and backup options. as well as Hoijland and Bissaka first game back in a few weeks/ months. Liverpool were poor.

13.) 18 Mar 2024 14:02:23
Dio1989 I wasn’t using injuries as a excuse and not about yesterday. Other teams have had injuries of course they have. Utd have played 6 games less than us since Xmas we have had 7 first 11 players out together for weeks. I was talking about us, lfc fans and our expectations. Nothing to do with the Scum.



04 Feb 2024 00:07:26
Football is a funny old game that moves at such a fast pace.

A few weeks ago if we’d have been going into a game away at Arsenal with 20 year old Connor Bradley having to deputise for Trent we would be in a spin and expecting the worst.

Now, with the sad news of Connor’s father passing away we are gutted about Trent having to deputise for Connor! lol.

In the words of Ferris Bueller, Life moves pretty fast, if you don’t stop and look around once in a while you could miss it.

Beckers pecker

1.) 04 Feb 2024 08:44:02
Wise words BP!

2.) 04 Feb 2024 10:01:39
I’ve got a feeling it’ll be Gomez at RB and Robinson back in at LB.

3.) 04 Feb 2024 19:49:40
Nice one, BP.




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04 Jul 2024 00:34:45
I want a night with Margot Robbie but if Scarlett Johannson came along I wouldn’t say no.

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03 Jul 2024 14:53:06
I read that Nico Williams is a target Ed and that he would be agreeable to the move. What makes you think he’s a hard ‘No’?

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11 Jun 2024 00:47:47
My best mate is a head teacher in a secondary school and I can tell you the whole ‘you can be whatever gender or sexuality you want’ is screwing up our kids. He’s told me stories of kids regularly switching genders and sexualities because they are being conditioned by society to think that if they don’t feel comfortable or accepted they can just become the opposite gender or change sexualities and it will solve their problems. Guess what? It doesn’t.

Of course it’s ok to be gay or transsexual but we have to be very careful about what we are telling kids of a very impressionable age because it is destroying their mental health. They don’t know who they are, what they want to be or what they are supposed to be.

I really didn’t want to get involved in this but it’s something I feel extremely strongly about. You lot who want to push this agenda of being whatever you want are seriously doing more harm than good. Let the kids be kids and work out who they are before encouraging them to make these kind of life changing decisions.

Anyway I’ve said my piece, now back to football.

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01 Jun 2024 16:44:29
We bought him because of his potential not because of the player his is today.

There’s this ridiculous idea with fans now that a player is what he is and he can’t improve. Grav is young but has bags of ability. Let’s see how he develops it would just be ridiculous to give him the game time we have to help his development and then let another team reap the the benefits of that.

I think in time he can be a top player but we have to show patience.

Same goes for Curtis Jones in the thread above but everyone seems to want to see these young players play then bin them off after a season because they’re not the finished article. Small minded XBOX thinking in my opinion.

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08 May 2024 22:26:55
Ron it makes perfect sense it’s just that you don’t want to see it.

You can take criticism from rival fans, after all they are rival fans and aren’t supposed to like you but you’re own fans should be sticking up for you and giving you encouragement.

It’s very hard to ignore the criticism when it’s not only the rival fans giving it but your own fans too!

You’re right though it is difficult to verify who someone supports on social media. You for example cannot be a Liverpool fan with some of the rubbish you spout about Liverpool players.

You’re exactly the type of fan the players should be ignoring.

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09 Jul 2024 10:27:29
Loved Mane. So aggressive with the pace and technique to back it up. He must’ve been a nightmare to play against.

I met him once just after he’d scored against City in the 4-3 win and I congratulated him on his goal. He was so humble and thankful and really seemed like a genuinely nice bloke.

Players like him don’t come around very often we were fortunate to have him.

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08 Jul 2024 19:44:09
FSGfleecingus sounds like a tin hat wearing conspiracy nut.

I bet he thinks the earth is flat and we never landed on the moon too.

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08 Jul 2024 15:20:50
I get all of that Ed but as a creative player he should’ve contributed more going forward. With his ability he should be assisting Salah and Mane from deep positions and not just recycling or generally losing the ball.

Perhaps that’s what he was told to do but still his attacking stats were woeful for someone with his ability.

As a person I have no idea. He seems like a nice bloke I really have nothing against him at all. You can think you’re the dog’s doodahs on the pitch and still be a humble man off the pitch. I would never criticise someone’s character as a person when I’ve never even met them.

On the pitch though his attitude struck me as someone who was overconfident in his ability with very little substance to back that up. Cocky is great if you are running games and making a huge positive impact on the team. He wasn’t so his over confidence wasn’t merited.

That’s all I was saying.

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08 Jul 2024 10:31:24
Ok fair enough Ed.

I wasn’t criticising the man at all and in a previous post I said I wish him well. I was criticising his overall contribution to our team as I do believe he did nothing to improve us.

I’ve always maintained he’s a very talented footballer who, in the right team can do wonderful things. He just wasn’t a good fit for us.

Anyway, we’ll have to agree to disagree on our respective knowledge of football matters.

Beckers pecker

{Ed001's Note - you were heavily criticising the man when you said that he believed his own hype. That is so far from true of Thiago, who is someone who is far from that type. If you had said it of Zlatan, then it is spot on, he has become a caricature because of it. But Thiago is just not that type at all. Didn't fit the Prem, didn't fit the team and couldn't stay fit, which makes him probably the second worst signing of the Klopp era, only saved by Keita being so catastrophically bad on and off the pitch. However, as a person he is just a quiet family man with no real airs and graces. He was always wandering around town with his missus and kids.

What annoyed me is your shallow abuse of one particular stat to try and prove he was useless. I hate the way people misuse stats to try and support an argument. My point wasn't that Silva didn't get many assists, my point was that he was being attacked by pundits at one point for not getting many as proof he was not very good. Just like it annoys me when those same pundits would claim Ozil was useless and lazy while totally ignoring the stats that said the opposite. Without context, stats are just meaningless.

If Thiago was playing in and around the box, then assists become more important as an indicator of his performance. But he was playing much deeper, so it is not really any indicator of his ability to be a playmaker. There is more to it. Added to the fact he was brought in to provide 'control' as Lijnders was obsessed with that. That means he is not going to be put into a position to play a final ball most of the time as he is there to keep the ball, not play the risky pass which creates chances.}



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08 Jul 2024 10:09:09
Klopp had 6 years to play Trent in midfield and never did Ed. I’m sure they experimented with it because a guy with his skill set in midfield should on paper, be a success.

Unfortunately it has just never worked so Klopp (and Lijnders) came up with a formation that allowed him to come into midfield as a spare man in space.

If Klopp saw Trent as a midfield player he would’ve played him there when the midfield was badly struggling in the 22-23 season.

He didn’t because Trent isn’t effective as a midfield player.

Beckers pecker

{Ed001's Note - why do I bother? You are lying. Outright making stuff up. There was never a fullback good enough to challenge him until last season. But Bradley got injured and so there was no option to play him in midfield as there was no right back to replace him. It is nothing to do with effectiveness or otherwise. Please don't waste my time replying.}



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