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31 Jan 2024 09:19:16
Man I hate the media in this country.

VVD says he doesn’t know what will happen after Klopp as it depends what the club does and which direction they want to go and they report it as he wants to leave!

To the point where Klopp has to tell people to calm down and VVD has to confirm he’s committed to the club.

I don’t know what’s worse, the fact that the media twist people’s words to form false headlines or the fact that people actually believe them.

Beckers pecker

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what you are referring to but his agent has said there have been a couple of general enquiries this week.}


1.) 31 Jan 2024 10:35:33
Only natural some clubs may want to capitalise on the uncertainty - we have done it on the past. Big difference receiving enquiries and courting them. The other side of this may be that the new manager no wants Virgil and they may seek to move him on (although I would hope that was unlikely) .


2.) 31 Jan 2024 13:02:14
Bloke knows he's going to be negotiating a new contract soon. Was never going to say"being here is a dream come true and i want to stay here forever and ever and ever"now was he? a nothing story.


3.) 31 Jan 2024 13:37:28
Agree with Jude Nkunku. He really doesn't have any idea what's going to happen. It's a long time until his contract is up. Anything can happen.

No issue with the comments.


4.) 31 Jan 2024 15:18:14
Wouldnt worry about clubs approaching the agent- Id be shocked if there wasnt. Even coming up to 33, he would be an immense addition to any side still. All about how he feels and he seems committed.


5.) 31 Jan 2024 17:42:34
I personally think at least one big name leaves in the summer. This doesn't include the players that will not have their contract renewed.


6.) 31 Jan 2024 18:46:36
If the Edwards approach is true. That says to me we’re panicking a little about life after Klopp.
It’s only natural our best players will be wary of all this and want reassurances we plan to stay successful.


7.) 31 Jan 2024 18:52:07
Too many people worrying about the future ! Embrace the rest of the season, klopp has earned our support not our questions.


8.) 31 Jan 2024 21:53:27
lol, does anyone believe that we don't plan to be successful? lol what kind of statement is that?

We're worrying a bit too much about things we can't control and then making factual statements about things that we don't really know about lol.


9.) 01 Feb 2024 09:35:27
Ally McCoist summed it up perfectly last night when his co-commentator tried to make a big deal out of VVDs comments. He hit back immediately saying that Virg is just saying that a new manager will have his own players and he doesn't know what the new manager and the club will want to do. At no point had he said that he wanted to leave and it was just the media twisting his words.

Obviously I'm paraphrasing but it was nice to hear an 'expert' finally talking some sense rather than trying to make drama.


 

 

 

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04 Feb 2024 00:07:26
Football is a funny old game that moves at such a fast pace.

A few weeks ago if we’d have been going into a game away at Arsenal with 20 year old Connor Bradley having to deputise for Trent we would be in a spin and expecting the worst.

Now, with the sad news of Connor’s father passing away we are gutted about Trent having to deputise for Connor! lol.

In the words of Ferris Bueller, Life moves pretty fast, if you don’t stop and look around once in a while you could miss it.

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1.) 04 Feb 2024 08:44:02
Wise words BP!


2.) 04 Feb 2024 10:01:39
I’ve got a feeling it’ll be Gomez at RB and Robinson back in at LB.


3.) 04 Feb 2024 19:49:40
Nice one, BP.


 

 

20 Jan 2024 22:28:27
Anyone who expected us to be any lower than 3rd hasn’t watched football for the last 8 years.

Last season was very much the same as the season after we won the league. Long term injuries in key areas and a hangover from the quadruple effort made us look worse than we really were.

I fully expected us to be City’s closest challengers this season, it was pretty obvious we’d be back to normal. You could see it at the end of last season after Jota and Diaz came back and we got a more settled midfield we went on a winning run.

Klopp’s systems are risky but effective. It enables him to compete with teams like City when financially he has no right to. The downside is that if you have injuries to key players you become vulnerable.

We were always coming back strong this season though.

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1.) 20 Jan 2024 23:58:21
Opir squad has more depth than City.


2.) 21 Jan 2024 03:56:58
As an arsenal fan I agree, I had you as winners from before a ball was kicked.


3.) 21 Jan 2024 08:31:50
I would've been delighted with 3rd before started. We doing far better than I thought we would've at start of season to tell the truth.


4.) 21 Jan 2024 09:55:40
Really @SirWenger, you did? Nice one, man. Can you tell me what you saw in our team in the summer and at the start of the season that made you think that cos certainly a large majority of LFC fans definitely did not see this coming at this stage of the season? At least, I didn't see it. Cheers, man.


@BP, I hear all you are saying. For me, I keep taking it one game at a time and clearly that is how Klopp and the boys are taking it. After all, we cannot be in 4 comps. (the only English team in this position BUT the media will never tell you that) if that was not the case, IMO. We are in a healthy position and if for me CL was the goal so 3rd would have been great at the start, for sure. Things could still change and if we make it to March in this position (or better) in the table, the gloves should definitely come off, IMO. Wait and see.


5.) 21 Jan 2024 09:56:59
It’s very cliche almost barring on fence sitting but before we kicked off I thought top 4 minimum with a good cup run possible a trophy and maybe next year with a more settled squad would be the title charge and back in the champions league .

As I look back at our season I think we’ve had games we look very good in (villa at home and Newcastle come to mind) and we’ve had games were we could easily have dropped more points (palace and Luton) but on a whole I think we’ve done enough to be sat at the top and hopefully the best football for this team is yet to come .

Tricky test today need 100% concentration my guess is a Liverpool favourite scoreline 3-1 with big virg getting in on the action ????.


6.) 21 Jan 2024 10:17:33
As a Liverpool fan, I’m surprised you didn’t tell us last July @BP. If you hadn’t kept it to yourself until the end of January but had let on back in July last year we could have all relaxed about the transfer window and what was going to happen this season. You’d certainly have saved poor old @Oh2b, for one, wasting all that angst and worry.

On a separate topic, you don’t happen to have the winning numbers for next week’s Lottery do you?


7.) 21 Jan 2024 11:55:29
I’ve only seen Walter on here say that he believes we wouldn't compete for top 4 this season but o don’t understand how that means he's not watched football for 8 years.

As far as we know he's at every Liverpool game home and away.


8.) 21 Jan 2024 12:26:55
@becker

Watch out mate you may be hung drawn and quartered for posting on here unless everyone 100% agrees with you .

Let’s all put our predictions in before the season so we can score them precious brownie points ?.


9.) 21 Jan 2024 13:02:28
Harry said we would finish midtable and he has never denied it whenever it was mentioned to him so there's that.


10.) 21 Jan 2024 13:37:13
"We'll lose to Bournemouth today, then the wheels will fall off and we'll finish mid table and be out of the cups".


11.) 21 Jan 2024 18:52:33
I did say it in July WDW. I always believed it because I could see what the issues last season were and knew we’d got the players back and were firing again.

It baffles me why people keep doubting this team and this manager in particular. If you can’t get behind this manager then you need to follow a different team or maybe even a different sport.

Klopp’s not perfect by any means but he’s the closest manager out there to it.


 

 

07 Jan 2024 22:24:45
I know it’s been said on here before but this rhetoric around Trent’s defending is as ridiculous as it is lazy.

We had Lineker picking out the 2 times Martinelli (an apparent elite winger) went past him and used that as proof that Trent is weak defensively.

They don’t do that for any other fullback in the league, only Trent.

I don’t know any defender in the world that doesn’t get beat by a winger sometimes. It’s just so lazy from the media to keep pushing this agenda.

They completely ignore any of his good defensive work, of which there was plenty today. It just winds me right up.

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1.) 07 Jan 2024 22:43:36
Today the commentary from the bbc was shocking, Shearer i could of sworn he was an arsenal fan definitely has it in for us.


2.) 07 Jan 2024 23:10:41
‘Arsenal should be 4 or 5 up’ Alan Shearer
When they had only 5 shots on target and Alisson hardly troubled from what I recall.


3.) 08 Jan 2024 00:36:53
I said that on another thread sgynwa it was the most one sided commentary I’ve ever heard.

The possession was fairly even and they had 5 on target to our 3 but apparently it should’ve been 4 or 5-0 by half time.

They started fast and could/ should’ve scored from a straight ball from the keeper and then could/ should’ve scored when they dispossessed Gomez. Other than that it was half chances.

We also hit the bar in the first half but that is conveniently forgotten.

I think Shearer is still sore that we handed Newcastle’s @rses to them last week. The disappointment in his voice when we scored and he actually had to give us some credit through gritted teeth!


4.) 08 Jan 2024 07:12:53
I'd love to know why the commentators seem to be so biased against us lately. I know they always have been anti-LFC, but it just seems so deliberate lately.


5.) 08 Jan 2024 07:19:54
Commentary was ridiculous. Shearer should be no where near the commentary box. It was obvious he was still bitter from the spanking we gave Newcastle.

The second time trent got beat by martinelli, you could see just prior to that, trent was clearly limping and shaking off a knock.


6.) 08 Jan 2024 07:35:53
Martinelli Came on as a sub with fresh legs and has very good pace so obviously Trent will struggle against him.


7.) 08 Jan 2024 07:43:53
I love Trent as a player, but I can also objectively assess his defending. It's a pretty poor standard for a top prem side. He steps in and tries to nick the ball and gets beaten often this way. He rarely jockies and goes with the player, steering him where he wants him. Just look at when he stepped up to Gordon in the Newcastle game, awful decision and judgement.
Sorry, like I said, love the player from a passing and attacking point of view, also his scouse swagger, just giving my honest opinion which I hope is fair.


8.) 08 Jan 2024 09:04:56
Then Bradley came on and shut Martenelli down wuth Trent moving into midfield and we looked even better.


9.) 08 Jan 2024 09:53:59
@BP, I don't care for that stuff anymore cos it is as disingenuous a rhetoric as you will ever find so anyone saying Trent "can't defend" is not to be listened to.

Indeed as someone said, Trent was a bit gassed and Martinelli has fresh legs so of course Trent would struggle. Notice when Bradley (fresh legs) came on, Martinelli didn't get a sniff. I guess if Trent had come on, he would have shut Martinelli down as well. Rubbish rhetoric.


 

 

27 Dec 2023 21:42:28
So once again I’d like to thank the refs for confirming, when it comes to handball in the penalty box the proximity rule only applies unless it’s Man City.

If you’re playing Man City it doesn’t matter how close you are when the ball is smashed at your hand. They get the penalty.

Thanks for clearing that up.

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1.) 27 Dec 2023 21:52:45
Appalling decision. City only get those ones. Wonder how much cash they paid for it.


2.) 27 Dec 2023 21:57:54
Can’t stand anything about City horrible team, horrible players horrible manager.


3.) 27 Dec 2023 22:12:19
It’s sickening when you look at the pens we don’t get compared to the ones they do.

That being said Pickford has let Everton down tonight. Woefully out of position for the first, should’ve saved the pen and the third goal was comedy Pickford at its finest.


4.) 27 Dec 2023 22:28:42
City leave me cold. Horrible, soulless, plastic club - the footballing equivalent of fake tan.


5.) 27 Dec 2023 22:30:55
Shocker! VAR couldn't find a basis to penalise a blatant City handball against Everton couple of years ago, but today, right in your face, that was given as a handball! What happened last week when Odegaard impersonated LeBron James?
Thank you, PGMOL!


6.) 27 Dec 2023 22:53:52
Calm down lads, refs need pocket change too, cost of living crisis and all that.


7.) 27 Dec 2023 23:18:32
Not sure how the cost of living crisis affects Paul Tierney, he only spends his money on pot noodles, Tescos value lager, Kleenex and one handed reading material.


8.) 27 Dec 2023 23:30:04
Chill everyone
I’m sure a reasonable explanation is in store

Perhaps the movement of the hand was in the ‘wrong’ direction, the distance between hand and body was ‘too far away’, the hands were not in a ‘natural’ position or maybe the brown envelops were slipped into the ‘right’ pockets

Choose any of the above and live on until the next incident when a new rule will be invented again.


9.) 28 Dec 2023 00:24:09
The powers-that-be are going to need to be a little more subtle about helping City win the title again. These kinds of decisions are making the underlying plan a bit too obvious.


10.) 28 Dec 2023 00:38:48
They pick and choose who gets what decisions, that’s what VAR has brought.


11.) 28 Dec 2023 01:03:17
Even as a kid I had respect for Fergie's Man United, almost jealousy of Wengers Arsenal, Jose's Chelsea were a ruthless winning machine. Ranieri's Foxes became so many peoples second team, even Mancini's City were a hell of a group. But this Guardiola City side are so hollow and empty.

I get that sportswashing is killing football and City with PSG are the forefront of it, which unfortunately has made the Premier League become the French League, this season Liverpool and Arsenal are playing for second place.

Don't get me wrong City have bought some fantastic players and have a top manager, but the help from the refs is getting too much. I've always put it down to sheer incompetence, but the past two seasons are starting to show there are shenanigans going on.


12.) 28 Dec 2023 01:11:26
@VV who knew that Paul Tierney had such a sophisticated pallet, I thought he settled for the blood of young virgins.


13.) 28 Dec 2023 08:48:49
IMO, It is the lack of consistency that is the problem here and the PGMOL does not help itself at all cos they are too busy trying to shift the goalposts in a bid to protect it's refs whenever they make mistakes regardless of the situation.

For me, both the Onana and Odegaard penalties are actually penalties under the rules in each situation. The problem is that whenever they screw up like the Odegaard one, they will create an interpretation within the law to explain the absurd. However the next week in the same situation, a pen will be given and when people complain about as to why one was not given for the same situation or slightly different one, they will then create another interpretation within that law to protect the ref again with their allies in the media giving them cover. Rinse, Repeat.

That is why people don't know what the handball rule is cos they keep changing on a weekly basis to survive the weekend, IMO.


14.) 28 Dec 2023 11:47:16
I still it down to utter incompetence. Especially those operating VAR and the complete lack of understanding in the game.
Unfortunately, each decision is mildly different from another and therefore too many variables come in to play.
What it has made me do though is to accept the ref's decision more often. They've got a hard job keeping up with play and seeing things in real time. Don't get me wrong, some of their decisions are still wrong, I just have learned to accept it. Football in the lower leagues is so much more fun (ie the EFL) without VAR and players/ fans just get on with it without anywhere near as much moaning after games.


15.) 28 Dec 2023 16:14:24
How can a lines man be called an assistant ref when they only give throw ins and corners and off sides ( then that goes to var) How many time has a lines man been right next to a foul and not put up his flag to indicate the foul. When I played the lines men that's what they were called (no sexual equality rules then ) they were part of making decisions on the game and it made the game easy for all involved now var does that so why do we need lines men. I feel it is like watching play station football not the game i grew up with and loved .


16.) 28 Dec 2023 18:48:34
Ref pointed for a corner and then was told by the linesman that it was a penalty, Coote in VAR with the quickest VAR check in history! No checking the screen for the ref which I thought was protocol for handballs but hey we can’t have City dropping points! If that’s a handball then you have to question some of the ones not given.


17.) 28 Dec 2023 17:13:58
Tell me that there is corruption in football without telling me that there is corruption in football!


18.) 28 Dec 2023 18:00:09
100% agree Oli, both were penalties and you would be fuming if your team wasn’t awarded either! You’ve nailed it with regard to PGMOL and there bull brigade trying to convince fans black is white when they make a gaff and so nobody knows what way the rules are going to be interpreted. Everyone keeps coming out with the rules are the problem for everything and the refs hands are tied but it’s clearly the application of VAR which is the problem and not VAR itself! Let’s not forget that VAR was brought in from the start to help refs make better decisions because they were making howlers and sending off wrong players etc…why anyone is surprised that having the same clowns operating VaR is no better is beyond me!


 

 

24 Dec 2023 02:39:09
With each game that goes by and we don’t lose I get a strong sense of foreboding that we are going to go through the rest of the season unbeaten.

That would mean the only reason we won’t be called invincibles is because of THAT game at Spurs.

I don’t honestly see that happening but just imagine.

Beckers pecker

1.) 24 Dec 2023 11:00:17
BP, I don't even count that game where we played against the PGMOL directly, not Spurs cos we were better than them in large parts of the game even with 10 men. For me, we are still undefeated.


 

 

 

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25 Feb 2024 22:25:52
VVD was asked about his contract after Klopp’s announcement and he said he wasn’t sure as it depends who comes in and what direction the club wants to go. Basically saying they might not offer him a contract if they decide to replace him or the new manager doesn’t want him.

That was then twisted by the media as ‘Van Dijk unsure if he’ll stay after Klopp leaves’. That’s not what he said at all.

Van Dijk then came out with a statement saying his words had been taken out of context and he’s very happy where he is.

Nothing to see, just the media doing their usual nonsense.

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06 Feb 2024 00:58:29
It doesn’t really matter does it? The fact is he’s going and we will have to move on. As much as we don’t want to we will just have to.

The king is dead, long live the king.

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03 Feb 2024 19:13:27
I agree with that ArAy. I remember people saying Suarez wasn’t a natural finisher and that he was trying to be too precise with his finishing so hitting the woodwork a lot. Nunez is the same, it will come.

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24 Jan 2024 00:04:56
Dracred the Saudi league as it was before is not what they are going for. They want the Saudi league to be one of the biggest leagues in the world, there’s even been talk of teams from their league entering the champions league.

At this moment in time there is just simply not enough interest in the league for that to happen. When they can’t even fill stadiums to a quarter of their capacity their plans are dead in the water.

It was exactly the same in golf but they’ve just thrown ridiculous amounts of money at it until they have now caused a seismic shift in the game and PGA Tour has had to sit up and listen or see their brand get swallowed up.

Nobody else has the financial clout to compete with these guys so if they really want it done they will keep spending until they get what they want. The one thing that makes football difficult for them is that the players have to physically move there to be able to play there. In other sports where the competitions are international tours that is not so much of a problem.

End of the day if they really want Salah they will get Salah. If I was FSG I would definitely see how far they would be willing to go because this could be another Coutinho situation where we get enough to set us up for years of success.

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22 Jan 2024 20:17:51
I think people are missing the point when it comes to the Saudi league. Yes it looks rubbish right now with only a couple of thousand attending some games. That just makes them more dangerous.

They need headline acts that will put bums on seats and who is more headline in the Middle East than Salah? It really makes no difference how many years he has left at Premier League level, everyone has a price. Salah does and we do.

As the Saudi’s get more desperate they just throw more and more money at it. Look what’s happening in golf right now for example. For those that don’t follow it John Rahm was quoted less than a year ago saying that he would never join the Saudi league because he doesn’t play for money he plays for legacy. Fast forward 10 months and a £450m offer later and he’s signing on the dotted line and doing the Saudi lean.

I could quite conceivably see them offering us upwards of £200m for Salah as their league is faltering and needs someone like him to save it. The question is, if that money is offered could we afford to turn it down? Would he turn down a signing on bonus that runs into the hundreds of millions?

Don’t underestimate how far they would be willing to go, especially when their backs are against the wall.

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26 Feb 2024 10:04:49
Caicedo should’ve been sent off in the first half but not for that challenge. That was a yellow for me but he did enough fouls in one half of football to warrant 3 yellow cards!

However, if we are being consistent then the VAR should’ve called the ref over to the screen and showed him a freeze frame of the contact. Then the ref would’ve had no choice but to send him off.

That’s the frustration for most of us, the inconsistency.

It’s a clear tactic for a lot of PL teams to have players standing offside at free kicks and to block the defenders coming back. I’ve seen it dozens of times and I’ve never seen it called offside. All of a sudden it’s offside?

Where’s the consistency? It’s just so frustrating.

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26 Feb 2024 00:39:04
Sorry that wasn’t a dig at you JK I know you didn’t say that I was more adding a bit of context to your post. Just saying ‘both teams have a similar average age’ doesn’t tell anywhere near the full story.

I watch quite a bit of LFC TV and have seen the likes of Bobby Clarke, James McConnell and Jayden Danns playing for the youth teams in front of about 50 people. Playing at Wembley in front of 80,000 people in a major cup final is such a huge step up for these kids and for them to handle it in the way they did is nothing short of heroic.

Chelsea’s young players are seasoned professional footballers in comparison. They are used to playing in front of big crowds on the big stage week in, week out.

If we’d lost it still would’ve been heroic but for them to come away with the trophy is just insane.

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25 Feb 2024 23:57:39
Why would he not want to rewatch it? I’ve watched it again already! Another glorious piece of history being made and the future of the club already lifting a trophy! If you can’t enjoy that Negative then you really should find another pastime.

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25 Feb 2024 22:13:35
Yes JK the average age of the teams was similar but in reality there’s no comparison. They have bought young players that were already excelling in a first team of top level football.

Take Caicedo for example. 21 but already had a full season as first choice in a Premier League team. Enzo Fernandez is 23 but he’s won a World Cup!

We had young players both in the team and on the bench who have had very little or no first team experience. These are not youngsters that have done enough in professional football to be sold for £40, £50 or £100million. These are kids that have pretty much come straight from the U21s and into a League Cup final at Wembley.

It was astonishing what they did. Don’t let the average age comparison fool you.

Chelsea will also tell you that they have injuries too, which they do. But if you look at the quality of the players missing there’s simply no comparison. We have a potential CL winning team out injured. They have Thiago Silva and Reece James then it becomes a bunch of average players that probably wouldn’t play anyway.

They’ll try to detract from this achievement with their nonsensical comparisons. See it for what it is.

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25 Feb 2024 18:32:48
Absolutely monumental performance that. The kids were outstanding against one of the most expensively assembled squads in the world.

We also had to put up with some of the most woeful refereeing I think I’ve ever seen. Caicedo should’ve been sent off in the first half but ended up not getting booked in 120 minutes! How, I will never know.

And the disallowed goal was an absolute joke. You can chalk at least 10 of Arsenal’s goals off this season if you are disallowing that. It happens week in, week out but suddenly they decide it’s offside? Absolutely ridiculous.

Didn’t matter in the end, the boys got exactly what they deserved. Our kids sent a billion quids worth of players home with their tails between their legs and I am beyond proud of them. Get in!

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