03 Apr 2025 20:10:35
ED001 If your about . all refs can make mistakes like yday for the attack on Macallister, but then it goes to VAR with all the cameras n angles n they blatantly get it wrong. but how can they. do you think it's either corruption or a ref like Tieney who everyone's knows dislikes us, does it out of spite because that was one of the easiest designs to make.
{Ed001's Note - only he knows whether it is spite, but his bias is clear and has been for years. A Mancunian should not be officiating Liverpool matches anyway. But to be so poor on the big money these guys get (I saw a claim on BeIn Sports that they are on £240k a year!) is unacceptable. The whole of PGMOL needs tearing down and rebuilding, with VAR taken out of their grubby coke stained hands.}
03 Apr 2025 20:47:35
I’m a Pepsi man myself….
03 Apr 2025 21:05:33
Is there any other league where football refereeing is as bad as ours? Other sports like rugby are definitely better, even though the game is slower and perhaps slightly easier to referee.
It all points to something bigger unfortunately. The failure to take any accountability and sort the mess out is bad enough and raises doubts about PGMOL, the fact no one is taking PGMOL to task raises other questions as well though. They’re bringing the game into disrepute and no one above the referee body is doing anything.
{Ed025's Note - maybe its because they are only on £240,000 a year JS?.. :)
03 Apr 2025 21:16:28
I see it as unconscious bias, I'd like to think it isn't corruption but understand why people make that jump.
I can accept mistakes from officials on the pitch but when someone has the benefit of replays, I'm sorry there is no excuse to miss something so blatant. On field is impulsive, but they have time to review the footage so I don't buy the whole 'people make mistakes' narrative.
The sooner it becomes independent and can stop the boys club the better for the game.
03 Apr 2025 21:37:34
The lack of transparency is what damages the game so much, I can accept incorrect calls if it’s the onfield ref genuinely missing something, the game is so fast and players are always simulating so you can’t even trust your own eyes at times however VAR officials having 3 or 4 minutes, slow motion and multiple camera angles getting decisions like last nights wrong is truely shocking. If Tierney can’t identify a red card from that tackle while watching it on a replay then surely that brings into question his ability to ref a game at normal speed? Don’t get me wrong there are times when VAR makes decisions that I don’t 100% agree with or like because they are subjective in nature and genuinely 50/ 50 decisions but getting textbook decisions wrong when in the VAR hub is incompetence at best and suspicious at worst.
03 Apr 2025 21:56:29
They always hide behind, we stuck with the infield decision. The time has come for a manger to have two challenges per half, mind you they will probably stick to the infield decision…… there are no consequences for poor officiating imo….
03 Apr 2025 21:58:13
Ps the only silver lining re JT not getting a red card is he can play against Arsenal at the weekend!
03 Apr 2025 22:18:13
ED001 definitely agree on the taking the vAR away from the boys club refs, didn't know they were on that much money by the way. who could or should be doing it, any suggestions like ex players or foreign referees.
04 Apr 2025 00:07:08
*Hops in with my usual diatribe like an irritating broken record* every top european league has been done for corruption apart from the premier league (so far) Maybe they are doing a bang up job keeping it clean? I think WE as fans should rage against the dreadful decisions across the board. Not just be aggrieved when it hurts us. Dare I say, when rival clubs like man utd get obviously screwed over- call shenanigans loudly on forums and such. Yes yes- its always lovely to see them screwed over but for the benefit of the game we should be vocal. Anyone with me? Anyone? Anyone? Maybe its just me. Oh well, whatever. Nevermind. I’ll get back in me hole.
04 Apr 2025 07:02:17
Aoe you are bang on and it's exactly what needs to happen, the Diaz offside was a perfect example of how fans don't care as long as it isn't against them.
The partisan nature of football is perfect for PGMOL as only a small portion kick up a fuss at the same time before it gets kicked under the rug and we move on.
The only way football changes is if all fans come together but continue being split (much like in politics) and nothing will change. In fact it'll most likely get worse.
04 Apr 2025 07:28:34
Wyred I’d say clubs as well mate.
Other managers only pipe up if their head or team is on the chopping block.
04 Apr 2025 09:27:30
Rugby has had video assistance for as long as I can remember and on the most part they get it right and if you’ve ever seen a game, some of them calls are harder to judge than footy decisions. It’s always good how your kept in the loop, can hear the ref and assistants speaking about the decision. You see very little if any violence at all before or after the game. It’s not a comparison of the game we love but there are things in rugby I feel are better than football for sure.
04 Apr 2025 10:25:17
Easy money, if you can get it, isn't it, Ed? Cos if these refs are on 240k a year then, what is Webb on per year? got to ask that question, as well.
{Ed001's Note - good question that.}
04 Apr 2025 10:39:33
I hear Paul Tierney got "rewarded" for being crap at VAR with being selected to officiate the Manchester derby.
Totally normal stuff.
04 Apr 2025 11:44:47
I guess it's just another day that ends in "y" for the PGMOL, isn't it Pelican?