05 Apr 2026 22:06:40
Been reflecting on the last few weeks and players' attitudes culminating with Szob at the weekend. Won’t talk about Slot as enough has been said about him and sooner he goes the better.
If we missed out on champs and had an exodus of players wanting to leave personally I wouldn’t be fussed. With Salah, Virg and Ali coming to the end I don’t think there is a single world class player left in the team who couldn’t be replaced.
My view is have a massive clear out in the summer and anyone who wants to go let them. There is not a single player other than maybe Szob who has shown any desire when the chips are down so as talented as some others may be they are not indispensable.
Lastly Wirtz, should be the difference maker in our team but I don’t think I’ve seen a player more suited to City or a Barcelona tiki taka style of play. Prefer pretty patterns and making the right pass over taking a risk and doing something decisive. Not a match winner and needs a fully functioning team around him to perform. We need some serious pace and power in the middle of the park to compensate having him as a 10 or it will never work.
For all the money spent the team needs a total revamp in terms of energy but most importantly attitude. If we don’t get it right this summer I don’t think we will see success any time soon no matter who the coach is.
05 Apr 2026 22:34:16
Agree with all of that.
05 Apr 2026 22:38:51
Going into a season with a slow squad perfect to line up as a 4/4/2 diamond, compact midfield, overlapping wide fullbacks.
And then try operating a 4/3/3 without replacing any speed. Didn't replace Diaz, didn't use Rio whatsoever.
Then get to January, knowing the right back area was a serious problem, seeing mostly midfielders playing there, and refusing to go into the market.
It was set up to fail. From day one. And not once have we tried to change anything. Not the tempo, the fitness, the style, the formation, the players, or the manager.
And now, all the excuses have been used up. They've started to blame the Liverpool fans.
Disgrace, mate. FSG need to wake up.
05 Apr 2026 23:05:49
We have some good players who will have great careers.
Isak is class. He just needs a pre-season and to play in the right tactical set up.
Wirtz has ability in abundance. He will step up next season.
Hugo has shown a lot of promise.
Kerkez is looking good now.
Leoni and Jacquet are very highly rated.
There's plenty of players to feel positive about.
06 Apr 2026 02:02:41
You're missing out on a vital point, a mass exodus of players puts us in an extraordinarily difficult position. It's irrelevant as to whether you think players can be replaced or not. In fact, no player is irreplaceable, the real issue is the inconvenience and difficulty in replacing them, and that will be amplified x100 if we miss out on CL and our best players start looking for moves. We will be a far less attractive project, making it extremely difficult to replace outgoings adequately. It's not like the old days when scouts could find gems for pittance, nowadays we don't go near players unless "computer says yes". This makes us far too slow to secure signings that could have been had for half the price had we moved at the right time instead of waiting for the data men to gather enough stats. Look at Olise and Semenyo, could have had the pair of them for less than 100 mill had we moved on our initial interest, you wouldn't get either of them for 100 mil now.
Konate has 1 foot out the door, probably Macca too, Salah's gone, so is Robbo, that's 4.
Dom still hasn't renewed, and he's on everybody's radar, he's clearly fed up and would likely jump at a move to Madrid if we continue to drown. If PSG or similar came knocking for Hugo, are you confident he wouldn't down tools? I'm sure many teams would jump at a cut price Isak after his nightmare season and I'm guessing the idea of a fresh start in sunny Barcelona is very appealing to him right now. Virgil's probably contemplating Saudi, and Alisson would likely be gone this summer if we didn't have that extension up our sleeve.
Whether or not you'd be bothered by any of the above looking for moves, based on your own perceived notion of a lack of quality or desire, is completely irrelevant, you should be bothered because of how it affects the club and the difficulties it presents.
We already have considerable moves to make in the market this summer, we really don't need to add to that headache.
Florian, not a peep out of you for 2 days. Nice of you to rear your head and tentatively chime in on a post that shoots down the players.
06 Apr 2026 04:35:12
What Ron said.
I will caveat that by saying there isn't an outfield player who I'd lose sleep over if they left. Wind back a few years, the thought of losing Bobby, Sadio, Mo, Virgil, Ali would have been unthinkable. When Coutinho left it felt like a big loss.
Fast forward to now, I'd keep Ali, Virgil, Kerkez, Dom, Wirtz, Hugo, Isak of our first XI. I'd be rid of Konate, MacAllister and Gravenberch stat. All lazy and don't give a toss. Not Liverpool players.
06 Apr 2026 08:16:51
Guys, look at Carrick. He has turned that club around with the same players Amorim had. Why can't a new manager do the same and then get rid of a few rotten eggs in the summer?
06 Apr 2026 08:24:20
Look process of re building starts with having a conscience and understanding where you went wrong and then reacting and rectifying the mistakes.
I don't see hughes and edwards capable enough to realise the mistakes with their ego and its almost like players have given up too.
So now we have to first change Edward Hughes and slot. Then add a couple of players - a solid CB and a RW and then see where we are. There is no immediate solution and throwing money at players very rarely has ever worked for majority of clubs in our situation.
Here is my step by step
1. Sack Edwards and get Jorg back
2. Sack Hughes and identify a new business guy
3. Get a coach in - someone like Alonso or better
4. Bid farewell for vvd but get some money for him
5. Bid farewell to Salah. But keep him close so he can visit matches and keep the spirits around the club.
6. Sell macca for 100m ( only to get the funds parked in case we loose out on CL next season)
7. Get a new CB - experienced lad like Lacroix schloterback
8. Get a RW - olise will be impossible without CL so wait a season.
9. Sort out pricing of tickets
10. Sort out academy - revamp entire structure around kiddies and invest in grass roots level.
11. Get a new branding deal that can cover some costs of the losses we are bound to make with no CL
12. Sort out every impending contract renewal, if players are not willing to sign, they are not are for sale.
06 Apr 2026 09:15:59
Exactly, RedTom, Utd players all playing well and looking happy and in the top 3. Those same players were being slaughtered by their fans who also thought all should be sold. And that team of players hadn't won the PL last season.
06 Apr 2026 09:25:02
Agree with the thread of what you're saying, Cafu. Need to be a miracle worker to get above £60m for Macca though!
06 Apr 2026 09:56:37
Brummy, with all due respect, I have to assume you've never seen Wirtz play for Leverkusen or Germany before. He took full ownership of making things happen when he was given the freedom and license to express himself and take risks. He regularly used to beat players and take on shots from range. Now he seems like he is under instruction to keep possession rather than try to play with cutting edge or directness.
It is no coincidence that Kerkez went from a flying wing back who was constantly overlapping and whipping in crosses, to someone who plays more passes to Van Dijk than anyone else in the side. It is no coincidence that Szoboszlai and Gravenberch have stopped carrying the ball through the lines.
Everything is disjointed, and nobody is trying to make things happen because they're obsessed with their horseshoe passing pattern. LW, to LB, to CB, to the other CB, to RB, to RW, to RB, to CB, to the other CB, to LB, and back to LW. Rinse and repeat until Gakpo or Salah have had enough and lose possession trying to dribble past a full back or shoot through a crowd. It's so predictable. Watch out for it next time you watch one of our games, we follow this exact pattern repeatedly. Sometimes, with the odd CM dropping in with the CB's to try and get a touch of the ball. It's abysmal, and I'm not sure what Wirtz is supposed to do in such a slow and turgid set up.
06 Apr 2026 09:57:16
I agree on Gakpo being dropped, but what has Rio done other than step overs? The goal at Newcastle is the only thing he's really done. Yes, he brings speed, but if there's no end product, it's just speed and tricks, and before anyone has a go, I know he's a kid.
06 Apr 2026 10:01:13
You paint an exaggerated picture, Chewy.
06 Apr 2026 11:37:04
I agree with pretty much all of that, Cafu, except you won't get anywhere near 100m for Macca after this season. I think we need LW, RW, RB, CDM, CB asap.
Irish Rover, if we don't get Champions League and Slot stays on, do you really think the possibility of players leaving will not massively increase? As I said, Konate has one foot out the door, Macca too if rumours are true, Robbo and Salah are already gone, VVD and Alisson are in the last year and won't be getting a renewal.
So there's minimum 4 massive losses in the next 12 months set in stone right there and 2 more that seem likely this summer. Isak downed tools to come play for a better team, currently we are not that team, why wouldn't he look elsewhere? Dom is very clearly at his wits' end with the situation and on everyone's radar, tell me why he wouldn't entertain an offer from Madrid?