13 Oct 2026 15:35:06
After watching the city game and the terrible card issues, and subsequently listening to the explanations both for and against,
Apparently the feeling among refs is that the standard for a second yellow should be higher, as a sending off dramatically alters a game giving one side a large advantage.( it can even things up if it numerically helps the weaker tireder team)
Imo sin bin system would be fairer as it gives the offending team a chance to get back in the game.
Currently multiple yellows to a player benefits a different team in the future.
Seems to work in many other sports.
As a side note personally I'd sack the current crop of refs and replace them with Rugby refs as they seem to be able to read and implement the rules whilst commanding respect.
13 Oct 2026 16:36:31
There is nothing wrong with the card system the problem is the rules and or the application of the rules.
A red charge should be for repeat offences
Denying a goal scoring opportunity
Serious foul play / violent conduct.
It isn't hard, the problem is the threshold for getting bookings is too easy and the application of the law is too inconsistent.
13 Oct 2026 17:25:53
Roy Keane on Ryan Gravenberch's Red Card Against Manchester City;
"Listen, I'm sitting here absolutely flabbergasted by what I've just witnessed. We are talking about Liverpool versus Manchester City at Anfield. This isn't a pre-season kick-around, this isn't a mid-table dead-rubber—this is as big as it gets in world football. You've got millions watching around the globe, two top-class teams going toe-to-toe, and the entire match gets ruined because the officials want to be the main event.
Look at the match context! Ryan Gravenberch was having one of his absolute best games in a Liverpool shirt. He's driving through the midfield, he's testing Gianluigi Donnarumma with a cracking strike from range, and then literally seconds later, he makes a recovery challenge in the City half on Jérémy Doku. Was it a foul? Yeah, fine, give a free-kick. But to whip out a second yellow card in the 62nd minute for that? It is an absolute disgrace.
13 Oct 2026 17:50:30
Gravenberch red was an awful decision and it ruined the game. What's going under the radar is that's 2 games in a row they've had these decisions go their way and played 10 men after Fernades was sent off at old Trafford for that nothing event with Foden.
13 Oct 2026 17:59:09
Wasn't it Foden who got sent off, JK?
13 Oct 2026 18:12:56
Foreign referees at the end of this season must be tried, get rid of the Coward Webb poisonous "clicks" PGMOL for ever.
Sin Bins for red cards and the system what's in place for Rugby Union where five independent experts decide during the game, if it is a fair red card dismissal, or just a time out in a sin bin, the game may indeed be over, but at least he is not suspended for the next game. Coward Webb has not apologised on behalf of the ref, so he must agree with the referees overall performance, i. e. imaginary red cards etc
Roy Keane failed to mention football is in fact a "contact sport" i. e. Van de Ven tackle on Isak resulting in a broken leg, no card issued?
Roy Keane also failed to mention man United have played against ten men in their last two matches, one point from 6, which is par for them with Car wreck at the wheel? city got the rub of the green also in the mancheaty derby fernandez not interfering with play, when attempting a diving header?
YNWA Andoni
YNWA Andoni.
13 Oct 2026 18:14:25
JK experiencing the Mandela Effect.
13 Oct 2026 18:39:45
Surely not Rome that would go against the narrative.
And if City were reduced to 10 men why didn't they capitulate.
13 Oct 2026 19:08:48
It's them pesky cheating b******* at it again, JK.
13 Oct 2026 21:11:08
The sooner that they replace human refs with robots the better.
As long as they are all programmed the same, at least we will get consistent decisions.
14 Oct 2026 09:26:46
Until we have a serious conversation about the corruption within PGMOL we'll be sat here being nonplussed by decisions and arguing about interpretations of the rules every week until Dermot Gallagher grows his hair back.
14 Oct 2026 13:12:45
Mcgoveb, Roy Keane is literally all of us. or all of us who care about actual justice and fairness. The man said everything many of us were saying and seeing.
Anderson got MOTM. The guy was eating Grav's dust all game. Enzo went missing and Grav was the best player on the pitch by a mile. And suddenly, you give a yellow card for a challenge like that 70 yards from goal? It just looked so unfair that Grav got the second yellow because City were not in the game at all up until then.
It felt like the ref did that just to "even things out" which he should not be doing. It was awful and mad annoying and unjust.