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18 Mar 2024 09:48:06
Bad day at the office yesterday, it happens and you just have to take it on the chin. One thing I will say though is some of the players looked lethargic yesterday, which begs the question, why did klopp go full strength on Thursday when we were already 5-1 up?

18 Mar 2024 10:11:45
Thursday was a cake walk, the players barely broke a sweat.
We allowed United to get back in that game by not shutting up shop and not taking advantage when we were on top. Poor game management.

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18 Mar 2024 10:53:44
Liverpool were lack lustre from the start, no urgency at all. I thought they were complacent but saying that they also looked tired, obviously the Thursday game played a part of it . Thing what bothers me though is that is the worst United team we've seen in a decade and we should always be up for these games, the game was there for the taking. but let's dust ourselves down n more forward.

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18 Mar 2024 11:00:07
I think we have to give Utd some credit too Mikey. We should’ve finished them off in the second half the game almost became too easy but they took some risks and got a lot of players forward.

They got a couple of lucky bounces of the ball and it was a good finish from Antony.

They then took advantage of 2 tired mistakes in extra time.

It’s a game where we’ll be kicking ourselves as it was there for the winning but fair play to Utd they kept going, threw players forward and got their reward.

On to the next one.

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18 Mar 2024 11:09:22
No intensity killed us, we had poor game management by the team as well, no urgency to get the third until ET, we should of walked that game if we turned up the press.

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18 Mar 2024 11:36:58
We win some we lose some. I’m over the defeat and said we have to bounce back against Brighton.

As for you Beckers and that high horse of yours. I have been on this site for probably 15 years. Who knows maybe longer so the holy than thou act don’t really wash with me nor impress me. In your reply below you say me and Mango. But then go onto specifically address Mango about turning up when defeats occur. Maybe don’t lump people in the same box? I’m here win lose or draw. Stick to one argument when directly countered. So address this statement first. Actually, don’t as I can’t be bothered going back and forth with you to be honest.

As for last season, Klopp’s sub choices were poor. What do you want me to say, jump onboard with your line of thinking? As fans we are entitled to have a difference of opinions. Btw im here every week. Mainly in the live chat, which I assume is below you and I have maintained both here and the live chat - that Klopp is a great manager. Given me the best times as a Liverpool fan. But his one weakness is sub choices (for me) . And in a number of games it’s cost us. Is that being a terrible fan or less than a fan than you, your Lordship. The players have done well but I won’t be a fan that just says yeah everything was okay and hey things happen. If you want that then you have to look elsewhere because you won’t be getting it from me.

The funny thing is if an Ed said Klopp is a great manager. I want him to have the a great send off. But for me, his sub choices have killed our momentum in a number of games. I can almost guarantee you wouldn’t have this energy. Anyways, I’m done responding to you, your Lordship Mr Beckers. I’ll continue to support the club, win and yes lose or draw. Starting with Brighton. And if I see something I feel I don’t like. I will continue to have my own opinion and will voice it. Cheers 👍.

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18 Mar 2024 11:41:31
Typical FA cup game should’ve won but faded badly in last ten minutes and the underdogs came through that’s all that happened. Rather we take three points of em in premier league later this season
Up the pool.

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18 Mar 2024 12:14:07
We can turn it into a positive by not making those mistakes again. Wrong Subs, not taking chances, full strength in Europe 3 days before….

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18 Mar 2024 13:02:05
Poor game management and poor substitutions by Klopp, im afraid. Its got to be called out. He deserves all the praise and admiration when he gets things right but it was a shocker to play a full strength side against Sparta. Especially as we scored 4 goals in the first 15 min.
Id take this result in exchange for tonking Utd in the league any day but can't help wondering if the passion might be notched up a level once TAA and Curtis are back?

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18 Mar 2024 12:50:45
Spot on LiverpoolFC8. Those 3 points are exactly what I have being saying that played a part in the result. But the game is gone and we must move on. We still have the league and Europa Cup to win.

If Arsenal draw or lose against City and we win our remaining 10 games and the league is ours. We have all witnessed City pulling 15 game winning streaks over 7 years now. So we have to treat every match like a cup final from here on out, starting with Brighton. Nothing would be better than seeing Klopp off with the league and Europa to add to the Carabao Cup. Followed by FSG announcing Alonso as the man to take over the reigns.

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18 Mar 2024 13:53:24
Alonso, you have been around for plenty of wins this season, (as has Mango), so I don't think you've been saving up a little hit piece for weeks, you have to admit it's pretty bloody hard to maintain that Klopp's sub choices have killed our momentum in games this season. You've suggested it's a general, worsening issue. I've only seen it yesterday, and the PL game away to Arsenal.

We've outscored literally every other top-flight team in the country in second halves and I think in the last 20 minutes too. That surely suggests that Klopp's subs have generally been on point, doesn't it? Which is what I've seen with my own eyes too.

I find people here generally can get very precious about the sanctity of their opinions when someone disagrees. Opinions have to have a basis in reality, or else they're open to challenge.

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18 Mar 2024 14:41:30
Says he's over it then continues to rant like a 5 year old child who didn't have things his own way.
Learn to let it go, you can't change it no matter how much you vent on here.

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18 Mar 2024 14:41:57
@Something Red. Thank you backing up that I don’t just turn up when we lose. And I actually respect all opinions. This is what makes the forum what it has grown into. We are allowed to disagree without being disagreeable. Thing is I weren’t being challenged. In fact I got called embarrassing and accused of being a poster that only turns up when we lose and enjoying when we lose (I mean seriously) so I can run some sinister agenda. Which is an absolutely misguided, a strange observation, absurd and not to mention straight up incorrect!

I don’t mind others not agreeing with me, because we can’t all think the same. For example not everyone will agree on what players they like in the squad. That goes for any fanbase. Some fans will say they really like player X and they bring a lot to the team. And others will say player X brings nothing to the table and hinders their play. It’s all opinions at the end of the day and I’m not the all seeing and knowing and can also be wrong in my opinions.

In what I have seen over a few years as I have watched every single one of our games win, lose of draw mind. And I have been left baffled at Klopp’s sub choices quite a few times. On a side note, it was good to get an outside perspective from someone who doesn’t support Liverpool. And when I brought up the fact that Klopp’s subs killed our momentum the City game, Ed25 jumped in and said he also noticed that after watching the game. City were there for the taking but our subs left us playing for a draw towards the end of the game. Again, the team have been superb and so has Klopp. But he ain’t perfect and for me subs are his one weakness if you zoom out of just this season and take last season into account or can even go back further. That’s all I’m saying.

Just want to reiterate that Klopp weren’t solely to blame for the result against City. End product played a major part and Klopp weren’t solely responsible for the result against United, because if our end product was better we would have comfortably won that game. But playing a full strength team 3 days before in essentially a dead rubber game falls on him. And sub choices for me in the United game killed our momentum and that falls on him.

Anyways appreciate the open and respectful discussion even if we don’t agree on some things. Which is how things should be….

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18 Mar 2024 14:55:47
Looks like I touched a nerve Alonso. It’s fine, you’re entitled to your opinion but it’s hard to accept when literally all of the evidence points to the opposite. You’re typical of someone with confirmation bias. You have criticised the sub choices so often that you were desperate for a game where the subs didn’t work so you could say ‘I told you so’. That just doesn’t wash with me.

This whole holier than thou and superfan nonsense is just a red herring. You’re trying to criticise me because in your eyes I’m trying to say I’m above you when that is simply not the case. I just understand that in football, as in any sport things don’t always go your way.

As fans our job is to support the team on the pitch. I understand the frustrations I really do as nobody likes to lose a game especially away at one of your biggest rivals but if you can’t hack it and have to make up bogus reasons as to why it happened then you’re better off not bothering. The team is better off without you.

How can you possibly ask these players and this manager to give you everything when at the first sign of trouble you want to say how rubbish they are and how you could’ve done better?

If you’re a Liverpool fan then own it, win lose or draw. I think the main problem with people nowadays is they can’t handle the gloating of rival fans on social media and so they lash out when things don’t work out exactly as they wanted. They are way too quick to criticise their own team as it allows them to save face, as if to say ‘well it’s not my fault, Klopp’s subs are rubbish’.

Just own it mate, take it on the chin and accept that supporting a football team doesn’t mean winning every week and winning every trophy. We have one trophy in the bag, are joint top of the league and are in the quarter final of the Europa League. I think that’s pretty good for a manager who is limited and makes poor substitutions every week.

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18 Mar 2024 15:42:05
Beckers. It appears we misunderstand each other which is fine. Same way the holy then thou is a red herring, the sub choices so often that you were desperate for a game where the subs didn’t work so you could say ‘I told you so’ is a red herring and don’t wash with me. Im here cheering the team come rain or shine, win or lose and will say you know what, no excuse we got beaten by the better side on the day. Any of the long standing posters who are in the live chat every week can attest to that. And as you’re not in the live chat every week I can see why you have that perception of me, which again is fine.

As for you can’t win every game, being here win, lose or draw I’ll let you settle down as you seem amped up as if you have been storing this up for a while. Then you can read back over everything I have said. You will actually find we are aligned on that. But if you want to point score and be the one that has “won” the argument. Then fine, so be it.

Anyways, I’ll keep it respectful going forward and will leave the holy than thou stuff out and you keep it respectful your end. Plus we both support the same team and even if in your mind you think I want my own team that I have supported since early childhood memory to lose (which I unsure if I find funny or absurd) . So going against each other in not really an open and respectful way serves no purpose. So let’s end by agreeing to disagree and leave the forum to other discussions.

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18 Mar 2024 16:53:18
Nice one, lads. For me, the subs have been great from the off this season so for the one time it does not go well (esp. with the injuries and fatigue we are dealing with right now), not sure it's that big of an effect. As I have said before and I was peeved we lost BUT at the end of the day, the fatigue told at the end on these players minds and bodies after the past weeks playing every 3 days and essentially winning all our games including a Cup at Wembley. Can't cheat nature, Im afraid. It's undefeated for a reason.

That being said, we play Utd again in the PL and that is the game I would have lost my crap had we lost it this way with all the collective and individual mistakes. so not arsed cos well, again, Klopp did not promise me a Quad so ain't arsed about what I was not promised.

Onto Brighton and trust me, that is the BIGGER than this game Utd won even tho, I never want to lose to that wretched lot who are STILL useless regardless of these "big" result.

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18 Mar 2024 18:17:11
Took us time to adjust to United's man marking first half. They were first to every second ball and wouldn't let us settle. Once we did we should have seen the game out. But credit to United they battled on and won the day. Hopefully the boys learned some things yesterday and will put it right in 3 weeks time. I'll take the league win over a cup win.

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18 Mar 2024 21:17:26
It’s fine Alonso, maybe I misread the tone of your post which is always possible with the written word without body language for context.

You posted something above about Gakpo that I whole heartedly agree with so we are not completely on a different page.

I just get frustrated when people don’t realise how good they have it being a Liverpool fan. We are the best club in the world in my opinion and what makes us that is the undying loyalty of our fan base. We are a family and we should always support each other come rain or shine not throw our toys out of the pram when a result doesn’t go the way we wanted.

No problem though mate, I’ve got no problem with you personally and I’m sure we’ll agree on more than we disagree on.

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18 Mar 2024 22:18:45
@Beckers. It’s all good mate. No hard feelings on my side. And you’re right, we do have it good. I just hope we give Klopp the send off he deserves. Here’s to us hopefully winning the treble 🍻.

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19 Mar 2024 00:47:51
Lack of execution.
When you have so much possession in the opponents final third you have to make it count.

Liverpool were too comfortable in the second half, coasting along.

You can do that when you’re 3-0 up, not 2-1 away from home.

We need better options up front. Sorry Darwin, love your energy but you’re too wasteful. Should be replaced in summer by a new manager with fresh eyes.

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19 Mar 2024 03:45:08
Sorry Ron, I have to disagree with your last statement there. Nunez brings so much more to the team than just goals. He unsettles the opposition defense, which helps our other attackers find the time and space they need. If we want someone who just scores goals, we can go for someone like Haaland. Bangs them in for fun but completely ineffective when he does not get the service he needs.

I believe that getting rid of Nunez would be a major mistake, especially since I just can't see anyone out there who would be an improvement on Nunez.

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19 Mar 2024 08:15:13
Nunez has the ability to be the best striker in the world and is improving all the time.

Selling him now would be absolutely crazy. When Salah goes there’s your 20-30 goal a season man, I’d much rather him be doing that for us than for someone else.

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{Ed025's Note - wow that is some statement BP, bulls arses and banjo,s come to mind when i think of him mate.. :)

19 Mar 2024 09:09:50
He already has 17 goals and 14 assists this season across all competitions Ed, and he must have hit the frame of the goal half as many times. So Beckers' prediction of him being a 20-30 goal striker isn't that far off ;)

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{Ed025's Note - i happen to rate him Drac, but "has the ability to be the best striker in the world"....come on!!, talk about over egging mate..

19 Mar 2024 12:14:10
Ron Keague, oh miss me with the Nunez slander cos it is getting tedious to read now. Seems when we don't win, he is the or one of the scapegoats whereas we all know he is key to the way we attack. Did I also mention that it was his assist that led to the equalizer and it was his shot that got Parried onto Salah for him to score and give us the lead? Absolute tosh, man.

And what chances did he get today that he was wasteful? Seriously, were you watching the game with your eyes wide shut or did you just see the highlight?

Oh and a guy with 17 goals and 13 assists in all comps. is "all energy" and "wasteful". Man, go take a nap cos you sound like a MOTD pundit parroting the same schtick of "Darwin was wasteful" whereas he never was based on the actual game. Pfffftt!

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19 Mar 2024 10:54:23
Watching Suarez in his first 2 years you’d say the same Ed. You’re say the same about Kane in his many loans and early in his Spurs career. Soldado was ahead of him for a season and a half.

Nunez is only in his 4th season of top level football, his rise has been meteoric so it’s inevitable he would need time to adjust.

He’s shown me enough for me to be extremely confident we have a proper player on our hands. I thought it when he was at Benfica and nothing I’ve seen of him at Liverpool changes my mind.

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{Ed025's Note - i think hes a very good player BP and frightens the life out of defenders mate, but "has the ability to be the best in the world"....high accolade that for someone who misses so many chances imo..

19 Mar 2024 14:52:11
We’ll see Ed. I seem to remember you saying something similar about DCL only a few years ago.

I do think Nunez is the real deal though.

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{Ed025's Note - time will tell as you say BP. But at the moment he is probably the 3rd best forward at Liverpool mate never mind the world..

20 Mar 2024 22:06:44
OliRed - just collecting receipts 👍.

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18 Mar 2024 08:55:07
For me, Klopp has recently and most of the season got team selection and substitutions more or less spot on. But Bradley should have started and to substitute Salah was wrong. We handed them 3 goals by not being strong enough in the challenge. It felt like we offered it on a plate. Obviously, Fernandes should have had a second yellow and the ref was poor, but bad day at the office at the worst time really. Good game can’t win 'em all.

18 Mar 2024 10:48:46
We missed 5 on 2 and 4 on 2 chances, nothing Klopp can do there.

Only thing I don't know is what is role of Gapko and Gravenbach for that matter.
I hope next managers can make better use of them.

Also Gomez should have been subbed and not robbo. u need players like robbo on pitch.

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18 Mar 2024 12:27:25
Brav. I agree. Our end product played a major part in us not killing the game off, which is not down to Klopp. A mix of end product and subs contributed to the result.

I’m also struggling to see what Gakpo brings to the team. Hopefully it’s just a horrible period he is going through and he gets out of it. One things for sure it’s we need to bounce back in the league. Good performance and victory against them is a must.

Agree3

18 Mar 2024 13:17:19
Everyone knows more than Klopp with hindsight.
If you know so much more than him then why not apply for the vacancy?

Agree5

18 Mar 2024 14:31:50
For me, we did not start the game well at all and we allowed Utd to bully us in the early goings. That an happen due to the accumulation of games over the past 6 weeks where essentially we have been playing every 3 days over all comps. The fact that we won 4 games in 11 days recently, is astounding and Klopp and all the players need to get all the credit. No questions about it, period. No here's the back end.

Even tho we did not start well, we got back in the game, equalised, took the lead and absolutely battered Utd till the 85th min after we fluffed all our chances and decided to see the game out. That may have been a conscious decision since we were lethargic in front of goal, which was prolly down to fatigue which leads to mental fatigue hence, bad decision-making. That part is NOT on Klopp, IMO.

I was peeved at the loss for sure BUT with time, I realise now that we were knackered and even tho we gave our all, fatigue led to bad decisions individually and collectively and hey, Utd weren't going to take things lying low either esp. at OT. Keep in mind that the FA Cup is a comp. Klopp wanted to ditch at Arsenal when injuries hit the squad and and he threw in the kids BUT we won so we forgot that. We move.

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18 Mar 2024 08:48:18
This was the game where the big names missing came back to haunt us. It was only a matter of time before Gomez would have a bad game. Same with Kelleher. Alisson would have done better with at least 2 of the goals. Diaz never stops but has no end product. How we missed Jota today.

Salah nowhere near match fit and Nunez had a poor game, compounded by the stupid pass to give away the 3rd goal. City went a goal down at Old Trafford but, as soon as they equalised, they were always going to win. That is the difference. If we’re lucky, and we don’t have a performance like this in Europe, we might add the Europa League trophy to the Carabao Cup. Meanwhile, City will win the same treble they won last year.

18 Mar 2024 09:03:39
Nunez is not a LW, Klopp needs to stop neutering him for the pedestrian Gakpo up top. Nunez should have just been sat on the last man all extra time running in behind and Gakpo LW, his actual position.

Gakpo hasn't got the brains, or skill to be a CF and this has been obvious for a while now, not against the top teams anyway.

Also Elliot needs to know there's nothing behind him, you're winning the ball and you're taking the man, you can't half effort a challenge there like that.

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18 Mar 2024 10:18:49
The title is not in city’s hands atm even if they win all the games
I’m not sure they are certain to win anything yet at this stage of the season.

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18 Mar 2024 10:41:10
For me, after Salah, and only based on his limited game time, Danns looks like our most clinical striker.

He may be young but so are Garnacho, Mainoo and Diallo . Gakpo is not the answer as a striker. Nunez is not clinical enough and Diaz is not clinical at all. With Salah just coming back from injury, Danns should be given more game time during our busy run-in.

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18 Mar 2024 12:00:09
@stetiiene
“Gakpo is not the answer as a striker. Nunez is not clinical enough”

This is actually the main reason I DON’T want Danns to get more games. If we’re already saying that Gakpo and Nunez aren’t up to it then what are your reactions going to be when Danns misses a few chances or has a few bad games? Will he be written off too?

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18 Mar 2024 12:54:55
Navy, already saying? Nunez has been here almost two seasons and it is no secret that he is NOT clinical enough. He causes chaos and is a brilliant addition to our squad but he is not a clinical striker.

Gakpo has been here over a year and he is not prolific either.

These are not knee jerk reactions based on one game.

Danns looks like he has that uncannot knack of being in the right place at the right time and during the limited minutes he has had has scored two goals that indicate a proper strikers instinct.

I am just saying give the lad a chance, at least until Jota comes back. Danns came on and did a job, scored two goals in 27 minutes, was unlucky not to score against Chelsea in the Carabao final and has been benched since then. We have been profligate in front of goal in two of the three games he has sat out recently.

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18 Mar 2024 14:36:39
And Danns is clinical? Where is the proof? Seriously, where is all this foolishness coming from, exactly? Danns has only played 60 mins and suddenly he is the answer and needs to get more games over Darwin? Pls, miss me with this stuff. Darwin is way more clinical and a way better CF than he was last season and the only way for him right now is UP.

Gakpo? He is in a very sticky patch and his head is not right at the moment and that happens, just like it did with Darwin when he did not score a single goal in 14 games. Now, he has scored 9 in 12. Not clinical? Take a day off.

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18 Mar 2024 14:50:15
@Oli, watch the U18's and you will see how clinical he is.

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18 Mar 2024 12:54:55
Navy, already saying? Nunez has been here almost two seasons and it is no secret that he is NOT clinical enough. He causes chaos and is a brilliant addition to our squad but he is not a clinical striker.

Gakpo has been here over a year and he is not prolific either.

These are not knee jerk reactions based on one game.

Danns looks like he has that uncannot knack of being in the right place at the right time and during the limited minutes he has had has scored two goals that indicate a proper strikers instinct.

I am just saying give the lad a chance, at least until Jota comes back. Danns came on and did a job, scored two goals in 27 minutes, was unlucky not to score against Chelsea in the Carabao final and has been benched since then. We have been profligate in front of goal in two of the three games he has sat out recently.

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18 Mar 2024 15:29:01
Oil, I am not for be second suggesting we play Danns instead of Nunez. My observation is that he appears to be a more clinical finisher, which Nunez most definitely is not. Clinical means fewer chances per goal and Danns has had 27 minutes in an FA Cup tie and scored a brace. Both strikers finishes.

And he has been doing it all season for the youth team.

We cannot play Nunez for 90 minutes game after game and expect him to be at 100%. Gakpo is going through a horrible spell and Diaz conversion rate is worse than Nunez.

Danns is fresh, hungry and took his chance when given it. I think he needs to be utilised better. Not in place of Nunez.

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18 Mar 2024 16:55:19
@FSGfleecingus, you must be off your rocker if you think I would compare Big Boy footie vs grown men at OT in the FA up to a kick-about in the U-18's. Come back when you have an actual argument to make rather than the utter stuff I just read in your response.

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18 Mar 2024 17:00:07
StEtienneAmen, Im not saying you did that specifically. All Im saying is that such a comparison should not even be made in jest or in truth cos the imbalance within such a comparison is not even worth debating, IMO.

Am not bothered one bit if Danns has been doing all that in the youth team cos the last time I checked, the FA Cup game we played at OT vs Utd was not the Youth FA Cup so again, the comparison is flawed.

Gakpo is better physically, technically and more experienced than Danns and even Danns would tell you that, IMO. Him being the new kid on the block will NOT change that any time soon. Gakpo is a very good player and vey talented BUT going thru a rough patch. Clearly, he is the first player in history to go thru that. So is it too much to ask to leave it like that rather than engage in false, unbalanced comparisons? Just asking for a friend.

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19 Mar 2024 12:22:22
So the cup final was pure luck from the young lads, you are about as worthy of taking any opinion on the kids as Alan Hansen was. You hate someone having a differing opinion to you. Big boy footy? The stand out players this season at many clubs have been under 20 years of age, embarrassing ageism from youself, have a think before ranting.

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18 Mar 2024 08:12:55
Liverpool + Man United Logos

Seano_ has written an article entitled, Man United vs Liverpool: A review

18 Mar 2024 11:23:27
I think you’ve captured most of it, Seano, but honestly what is there to analyse? We lost the game despite the gulf in quality being painfully obvious the whole time, and we did so because we rely too much on spontaneous, individual quality to score goals rather than sustained, planned attacking patterns. We mess up counter attacks more than any other team because we simply don’t know what to do when we get them.
Added to the above, all the shooting practice we do pre-game, where the likes of Diaz etc score 49/ 50 total shots past a hapless practice goalie, seems to be a complete waste of time. None of our attackers, other than Nunez at times, can consistently strike a ball with power and accuracy such that it’s not straight at the keeper. Atrocious.

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18 Mar 2024 15:28:05
RR, Believe me, I do know our shortcomings, doesn't help with "Referee's" like him mate.
I always wanted Liverpool to beat United, untill 2 weeks ago.
We would have still been out of the relegation zone if that was quite rightly a draw, also we should have had a stonewaller at Newcastle, Brighton should have had a player sent off, and don't start me on Toney.
Yes I get We have shot ourselves in the foot, however the officials have been quite simply appalling.

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18 Mar 2024 07:20:06
Personally, the only disappointment out getting knocked out of the FA cup is that it was at the hands of Manchester United.

Obviously would be all in on the cup had we made it through but at the end of the day it’s a knockout comp. And if we don’t take our chances against any team, let alone average ones, then we are prone to not win those games.

I’m sure there will be decisions made to reflect on but the time for an inquisition isn’t now lol The self doubt creeping in is for those who are still stuck in 2015 lol

Last 10 plus maybe a few more European games to enjoy with Klopp at the helm. The time to get someone better because he couldn’t beat Manu will come at the end of the season 💪🏽.

18 Mar 2024 07:38:19
Personally I will hold my judgement on the game until the league game in a few weeks.

If we use this loss as a wake up call that we can't take them lightly and win, then the loss will be worth it. However lose or draw that league game and my attitude might be different.

Both sides had chances to win it, our 5 on 2 should of lead to shot on target at the very least. And rashford should of won it in the 90.

The theme of the round was last minute winners so I had a feeling one was likely. It just didn't fall for us yesterday. We have beaten enough teams late on and it was our turn to take one.

Yes it's frustraitng but we still have the big one to go for and also the Europa league so two more chances to finish on a high!

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18 Mar 2024 08:20:37
Gutted we lost yesterday as it’s probably the hardest team to take losing too.

For me the priority trophy to win is the Premier league title and yesterdays result has zero affect on that.

It’s all about regrouping over the next 2 weeks now and Then getting back to winning ways against Brighton and Sheff Utd before we are back to Old Trafford.

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18 Mar 2024 08:35:04
Forest fan here, now you know what it's like to be heartbroken at the death!
Justice served!
Karma is a wonderful thing!

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18 Mar 2024 08:44:56
Rogie Red - yeah but I think most sensible Liverpool fans will recognise we were the architects of our own downfall yesterday, accept the disappointing defeat and move on to the remaining part of the season; unlike Forest fans who are evidently incapable of recognising their team's shortcomings and just want to blame everyone and anyone else.

Not good enough yesterday. Sloppy right from the start. Not finishing United off in that 30 minute spell in the second half where they had almost given up came back to bite us. The shambles we made of that 5 v 2 break summed it up best. A break like that should be 100% conversion rate.

If we come back and win our next two league matches at Anfield and then set the record straight at Old Trafford in the league, I'll get over yesterday I think.

Agree4

18 Mar 2024 08:46:46
I wouldn’t day it has zero effect on the league game JK. We should have beat the 4-1 then the PL game was as good as won. Now they will be right up for it. We couldn’t handle them in the first 25 minutes, they will try that again.

Agree1

18 Mar 2024 09:01:34
Well Rogie, given your staring a points deduction and a one way ticket back to the championship in the face I would possibly hold off the “justice served” and “karma” statements for the moment as there are teams who will be throwing that in your face in a few weeks time.

Agree8

18 Mar 2024 11:58:53
Enjoy Championship, Rogie.

Agree3

18 Mar 2024 14:39:03
Rogie, I have no idea where or how you have come to compare whatever it is that happened to you with what happened to us last night BUT whatever, bro. You'd better focus on your own team and hope you get out of the hole you're currently in. Just my take.

Agree0

19 Mar 2024 02:15:42
Hahahahaha the Liverpool fans who have crawled out of their cave for the first time in months are on the same par as Rogie the forest fan who is here to troll lol.

Agree0

18 Mar 2024 06:45:17
For a neutral that was a great game, a proper old fashioned Cup tie - gutted we lost, especially given we had so many chances

See a few posts about taking Salah off - in fairness, apart from his goal, he was poor. Nunez looked dead on his feet at times and our finishing was way off, and we had lots of chances

Hopefully they are all back fit and firing for our next game.

18 Mar 2024 10:23:42
Forest are dross. Go back to the Championship where you belong.

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18 Mar 2024 14:40:57
Bill, Salah was not fit enuff to play 90. It was normal that he would come off. had we taken ou chances, this would not be an issue. We didn't and we got done. That said, we looked knackered and extra time was the last thing we needed cos our legs (hence, our minds) were gone. We needed the rest. the Quad? Klopp did not promise me any of that so Im good.

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17 Mar 2024 23:48:24
I see the same old posters are back now we’ve lost a game.

Don’t hear a peep from them for weeks then when we lose it’s like all of their negative criticism is vindicated.

See, I told you Klopp’s subs were rubbish! Completely ignoring the fact that our subs have been involved in more goals than anyone else’s this season.

Or see, I told you Klopp has lost it. Completely ignoring the fact that he’s got us in a title race, already won a trophy and to the quarter final of 2 others.

Honestly, how arrogant and entitled do you have to be to expect a team you ‘support’ to win every single game? Then when they don’t you want to criticise everyone involved and say how poor they’ve been all along ignoring all of the great things they’ve been doing all season.

It’s football, sometimes you lose if you can’t handle that then watch something else.

A quadruple has never been done because it’s incredibly hard to do. Almost impossible to do in fact. We are amazingly lucky that we support a team that even talks about it.

I’m sick of fans that just want to be critical and pray for the day we lose so they can somehow confirm their criticism was justified.

18 Mar 2024 02:26:00
Beckers. Maybe as I don’t pay attention to when others post but I’m here win lose or draw. So if you’re aiming that at me, you may need to get your facts straight before typing.

I’ll just speak for myself here and not the others you seem to be addressing. All I want is to be the best team and win everything like any other fan. So let’s quit the holier than thou fan stuff. Because one things for sure. You ain’t above me in terms of supporting this club. Same way I ain’t above you.

I want Klopp to get the send off he deserves. I have stated that from when the quadruple was a reality, all the way through that period and still maintain that (now treble) until the end of the season. But this not allowed to criticise Klopp thing some have I will simply not abide by. Simple as that!

Agree4

18 Mar 2024 02:40:30
Very well said mate, a loss today wasn't what any of us wanted but it happens. We move on, we're very lucky overall to be in the position we are in. I for one am very grateful for the position the club has put us in, long may it continue and we must enjoy it while it lasts because although I see us doing very well for many years to come, nothing lasts forever.

The doom and gloom merchants need to wake up and see exactly what is going on at the moment. One loss vs a rival, I think most aren't even bothered about the FA cup, they're more fussed that we lost to Utd. We move on, these things happen. Fair play to them, they won it and we didn't, it is what it is, we can't change it we learn from it. Plenty more to play for.

Just enjoy the rest of the season, Klopps last. We're doing incredibly well and nobody would've imagined us to do this well this season, we're already exceeding expectations. Enjoy the moment and look forward to the next few months because it's going to be one hell of a ride.

Agree5

18 Mar 2024 02:41:32
It was a proper cup game that we didn’t manage very well
Could be tired bodies out there but we surely had enough quality and chances to win it, thereby the frustrations

But I agree there is no need for over the top criticism l.
The very Nunez and Elliot that made the mistakes that arguably cost us the game were also the ones who made the chances or scored to keep us in it

The subs that were made did blunt us but I’m unsure if we did be any happier if Salah and Szoboslai stayed on and got injured

We just need to get things right and win at OT in the PL

Somehow how they have been crap but we haven’t beaten them this season! Feels abit like role reversal where we were not winning anything but always showed up to nick pts off utd to affect their title races in the 2000s.

Agree4

18 Mar 2024 03:17:24
I’ve not seen anyone slate the team to any unjustifiable extent.
The subs killed us. That’s about all we can say.

Agree4

18 Mar 2024 07:11:12
Take your point Beckers. I think it’s just frustration cos we had our foot on their throat and let them escape. And it’s them.
As i said, fair play to Utd, they gambled and we weren’t clinical enough to take advantage. The day when Jota’s absence finally bit.
Fingers crossed we don’t pick up any more injuries and we take all that frustration out on Brighton at the end of the month.

Agree1

18 Mar 2024 07:15:39
Said it before and I’ll say it again - forums like this are a hive of activity when we don’t win and then tumbleweed when we do win.

Agree2

18 Mar 2024 07:30:52
Sgynwa
Your first sentence sums it up perfectly for me. We didn’t manage the game very well. It is what it is🤷‍♂️

Reminds me of the years when Liverpool were crap and hung onto the odd cup win to somehow stay relevant. That’s United today.

Agree1

18 Mar 2024 07:40:29
Anyone thinking that losing such a tight game at a place like Old Trafford has wrecked our season or made Klopp a failure is simply following the wrong sport.
And if you're going to criticise Klopp and the players on here after yesterday and the immense effort they've put in this season then you can expect to be called out on it.
And rightly so.
If you can't handle it back, don't dish it out in the first place.

Agree1

18 Mar 2024 08:45:42
There are things to be critical about yesterdays game. But something i keep reminding people about. How many first choice players were still unavailable? Jota, Trent, Konate, Jones, Alisson. I thinl all oif us, myself included, need to remember the terriblke injury list we've had, and still get to where we are. A full squad and maybe the quad was on, but its asking a hell of a lot without that number of players and the knock on effect on others who are playing more than they would. The premier league is the big one. UP THE REDS.

Agree0

18 Mar 2024 08:49:44
As long as everyone learns from it then we can achieve great things. Win the next PL game is all that matters and is more important.

Agree2

18 Mar 2024 10:16:21
It’s absolutely aimed at you Alonso and posters like Mango too.

You were all over these pages last season and at the start of this telling anyone who would listen about how poor Klopp’s substitutions are but then the unthinkable happened, his subs have made a real difference all season.

Did I see you posting about how wrong you were? You might have done but I certainly didn’t see it.

Then in one game when his subs didn’t work months later you pipe up saying you were right all along?

Klopp’s not perfect mate but then nor should he be. No human being is ever perfect but if you’re going to criticise it has to be based on actual real evidence. The evidence this season far outweighs your argument but you just couldn’t wait to feel relevant again could you?

Same with Mango. Last season he was full of how Klopp is finished but then we’re top of the league and chasing a quad so we don’t hear from him.

We lose one game and he’s back telling us how ‘limited’ Klopp is and how a new manager is needed. Again the evidence far outweighs his argument but a defeat makes him feel relevant again so he’s loving it.

But then you expect these players and the manager to run through brick walls and give you everything when you can’t even give them your support when things don’t go their way.

It’s shocking mate there’s no other word for it.

Agree4

18 Mar 2024 11:16:25
steviep62 I wouldn't use the Injuries as an excuse, United had them yesterday. United were missing a few starters and backup options. as well as Hoijland and Bissaka first game back in a few weeks/ months. Liverpool were poor.

Agree0

18 Mar 2024 14:02:23
Dio1989 I wasn’t using injuries as a excuse and not about yesterday. Other teams have had injuries of course they have. Utd have played 6 games less than us since Xmas we have had 7 first 11 players out together for weeks. I was talking about us, lfc fans and our expectations. Nothing to do with the Scum.

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