Liverpool banter 8

04 Dec 2025 18:15:11
Sunderland manager - we were surprised we had so much time and space to play.

If that's not an embarrassment for these players I don't know what is .

Stuck that comment on the dressing room wall make them read it every game.

04 Dec 2025 18:19:33
I’m not sure it would bother slot though.

04 Dec 2025 18:19:38
From watching the game it looks like that's how the team was set up to play.

04 Dec 2025 18:23:36
I missed the match last night but watched the first half today. The players must be able to feel the frustrated energy of the crowd.

Watching the big Sunderland number 5 get the ball in his own half and run unchallenged to the corner of our box is unbelievable. It's happening a lot this season.

This was supposed to be a run of "winnable" games but so far 1W 1D 2L by an aggregate score of 4-8.

Not looking forward to Saturday I think Leeds will want it a lot more than us. I don't recall looking at upcoming games and wondering where the next win comes from. Maybe Wolves at home. Not felt this negative since pre-Klopp days.

04 Dec 2025 18:28:27
Whats more embarrasing is Slot coming out saying teams are not fearing us at Anfield anymore. that's not good enough. Anfield should be a fortress! I still hope Slot sorts this out but time is running out.

04 Dec 2025 18:37:19
Have to say tho I don't recall seeing a team spend so much time on the ground. Watched the last two Sunderland matches so clearly it's coached into them to waste as much time as possible.

04 Dec 2025 18:44:00
kss it's quite the fall from grace. He doesn't seem to be getting the memos. It's maddeningly baffling. I think we need more shadow boxing and rugby passing with the football in training. Clearly not doing enough of either.

04 Dec 2025 20:38:03
That comment from the Sunderland manager is so accurate and cutting it should be enough to send Slot packing. Sunderland a newly promoted side played out from the back from minute one with the freedom of Anfield, that first half was honestly one of the worse half’s of football we have ever played! I can almost understand a mistimed press or a team playing through you with good play but to just allow them stroll out from the back and pop the ball about while we passively ran around was embarrassing truely embarrassing.

This wasn’t an effort or fitness issue this was tactics!

04 Dec 2025 22:21:11
Downey, do you know that the Sunderland manager is about the 3rd manager (Maresca and on other one) in addition to Utd and Forrest players who have come out with the same type of comments after playing us this season? Essentially, calling us soft? Trust me, there will be more. Embarrassing.

04 Dec 2025 18:06:13
It’s been a miserable few weeks being an LFC fan, i fully understand the club execs wanting to give Arne time to coach out of this mess. The problems though are growing each week which suggests either the tactics are terrible and won’t work, or the players are not being coached correctly in terms of what they are meant to be doing.

Confidence is through the floor and we are making so many mistakes leading to goals it’s unbelievable.

With the players slot has it really is mind blowing why we are seeing this kind of form.

So my take on it is, the tactics clearly are not suited to the players nor the league, if Slot can’t see that or is choosing not to that is clearly weak management. He should be very much involved with the training and tactics with the players. We can’t blame the new assistant etc as he shouldn’t be left to oversea everything when slot is the head coach.

As for the execs, I fully understand that slot was their man, but sometimes you have to be strong and realise you have made a mistake. At the very least they should be looking into the coaching, speaking to the players etc to find out what the issues are and either having slot address them or replace him. Maybe as some have stated they are waiting to see what happens with Alonso at Madrid or the Bournemouth manager who’s in the final year of his contract, but risking champions league qualification in the process seems like a very big risk, while we have the squad to compete for the titles, we don’t have a manager with either the hunger to be a mutiple winner or desire to change, the execs need to be strong and while showing resilience to sack I guess in some eyes shows this, to me it shows they are not ruthless enough to succeed. We need ruthless leaders were second is not good enough and a manager who has the burning desire to keep winning, not allow arrogance to settle in as he won the league in his first season. Either way it’s going to be an interesting few weeks, the run up to Xmas is going to be painful bet let’s hope one way or another someone has the brass to make a decision and make the right decision on how things need to change soon.

04 Dec 2025 18:31:29
We all know what it's like having a good boss and a bad one. The players are professional athletes but if they don't believe in what they are being tasked to do then they are simply not going to perform to the levels that they are capable of. Human nature and not a function at all of how much money they make. Belief is belief and confidence is everything in life. Clearly they are low on both.

As for Slot's ongoing tenure, I think a top 4 finish and a run in the CL have to be the priorities to pay the bills. Once that is looking in peril (already is for most of us on here) then I think the hammer falls. My guess would be lose Saturday with no progress in the performance and it's over for Slot.

04 Dec 2025 22:22:54
Outstanding post, @Flyer. Fully agree with everything you've said.

05 Dec 2025 02:25:43
Cheers Ol. I try! 🤣.

04 Dec 2025 16:44:21
Diogo would have been 29 today. A tragic loss and thoughts are clearly with everyone that was close to him including family and friends. A time for reflection. Forever our Number 20. RIP Diogo. YNWA.

04 Dec 2025 15:54:29
Watching a bit of leeds and Chelsea last night and if we go there with the same game plan I can see a bit of a hiding coming our way - and Chelsea were in decent form!

04 Dec 2025 22:25:02
I think that huge effort vs Arsenal playing with 10 men took it's toll on them mentally. As for us, we will get embarrassed if we approach them with the same attitude and tactics we have been playing.

In fact, had it not been the dexterity from Chiesa, Sunderland would have already done the job.

04 Dec 2025 15:51:49
Hi Ed001

Do you happen to know how much time Arne Slot actually spends at/ in Liverpool? As he seems to be jetting off to Holland and Dubai at every available opportunity.

{Ed001's Note - no, sorry, I don't keep that close tabs on him. It is clearly not enough though when things are going wrong. You have to be a leader and show that you are putting in the work if you are going to ask others to do so.}

04 Dec 2025 15:24:45
If only Pleasure Rooms was still there 🕺.

04 Dec 2025 16:35:55
Weak leadership from Slot all round sadly.

04 Dec 2025 16:47:06
He’s down Beefa being a final boss and havin’ it havin’ it havin’ it.

04 Dec 2025 18:20:55
Where is the proof he's jetting off at every opportunity?

04 Dec 2025 18:24:39
There isn’t any Rome but that really matter.

04 Dec 2025 18:50:42
So now we're at the stage of suggesting the Slot doesn't even turn up for work?

Lads, there are plenty of good reasons to be unhappy with Slot without needing to invent stuff.

04 Dec 2025 21:40:04
Rome . he's making a fortune on the duty free.

04 Dec 2025 14:09:05
Hiya Ed's and Reds I hope everyone is doing well 😊 Going by what Ed001 has stated earlier looks like ain't leaving us anytime soon. Hughes and Edwards are backing him for better or worse but he's their man so they really have to back him no choice I suppose.

So where does that leave us as fan's? Probably in a rubber room with some sort of breakdown. Who'd be a Liverpool fan eh 🤷‍♂️.

04 Dec 2025 14:15:42
They'll pull the trigger Barry or else they'll find themselves in an even more embarrassing situation. I cannot see any other way forward myself. It's already a fall from grace for everyone! Have a good day BIL!

04 Dec 2025 14:20:44
Yeah it’s tough winning 2 league titles in 6 seasons. Sheffield Wednesday supporters don’t know what suffering is.

04 Dec 2025 14:25:45
Barry, they will replace Slot as soon as all their ducks are in a row i. e get the right guy in place and ready to go. Not before.

And if it takes all the way to the end of the season for that to happen then, I propose we all get ready for that.

04 Dec 2025 14:44:14
You could very well be right Oli.

04 Dec 2025 14:56:42
Slot will get until January.

04 Dec 2025 16:00:58
If the new coach decides to throw the entire playing philosophy of the recent decade in the bin, he needs to come up with an adequate alternative.
Slot is now in his second year, and I still can’t see any signature style from the coach — not even remotely.


The midfield in particular is a dreadful sight.
What did Slot do during the preseason? What are they doing in training?

04 Dec 2025 13:04:31
I could deal with a rough patch of results and get behind the manager if the performances was there but we are so bad right now its actually depressing! Hope the suits just don't prelong the enivatable for too long 💔.

04 Dec 2025 14:10:44
The performances go hand in hand with the results. Liverpool have world class players - if the performances were as they should be, we’d win 30 games a season in the league. This isn’t a team that gets unlucky despite playing well - if they played well, they’d win nearly every game.

04 Dec 2025 14:16:48
I’m sure that if we get beat at Elland Rd, then Arne will be on the next EasyJet back to the Dam.

04 Dec 2025 16:46:51
That’ll be handy shughes55 as he lives by the airport apparently.

04 Dec 2025 13:10:45


ShipleyKopite has written an article entitled, Liverpool's Passive Display Raises Concerns Under Slot

04 Dec 2025 13:31:31
Up until 2 weeks ago I was all for giving Slot more time but it is quite clear he will not change tactics.
It is time for him to go.
The Premier League has changed dramatically over the last 18 months.
Teams are far more physical and direct, we have gone the exact opposite.
He has bought players to try and pick the lock of the low block while other teams are just smashing it off with a sledgehammer.


It is OK having Wirtz and Isak but the rest of the team needs to be made up of energy and physicality.
As Shanks said " You only need one person to play the piano but you need 10 to carry it".

04 Dec 2025 15:03:33
Isak is woeful. I wasn’t quite as harsh before we signed him but I didn’t want him either.

Woeful is being kind.

04 Dec 2025 16:17:45
He is getting absolutely no service. We need our wingers to be getting to the byline and cutting the ball back between the six yard box and penalty spot.
Ours cannot beat a man and are always looking to cut inside.
Again tactics are all wrong!

04 Dec 2025 16:27:33
His work rate is poor, that needs improving. He isn’t a woeful player, but looks like a loose part in our set up.

04 Dec 2025 16:47:53
The fact Isak destroyed Liverpool every time he played for Newcastle shows he’s not woeful. But it is clear Slot has zero clues how to get the most from him.

04 Dec 2025 17:15:37
It wasn't that long ago that we were mocking Arsenal and comparing them to Stoke 🙄.

04 Dec 2025 12:26:39
The run of defeats are horrible and so different to what we’ve become used to over the past few years but it’s the lack of effort, desire or even ambition that has me feeling most sick. I’ve never wanted a manager to go (except hodgson) but I’m really fed up of slot. I’m sick and tired of his interviews after games. Every opposition goal is down to their good luck and every chance we miss is down to our bad luck. I can’t get my head around paying £150m for a striker and then not playing to his strengths or at least involving him. Btw the way I’m not saying none of it’s down to him, he’s been terrible but tell the wingers to provide for him or they’re coming off and stick to the threat. Gakpo has scored quite a few goals I accept but surely a pro footballer has to have more to his game than everytime cutting inside and shooting (sometimes scoring) but rarely passing.

Kerkez doesn’t even bother to over lap him anymore as he’s NEVER getting the ball and he’s just going to leave himself out of position again. He’s been terrible but why buy a fb that was brilliant last season and then make him play a totally different role. McAllister definitely has to have inappropriate pictures of slot with an animal. He was just unreal last season but he’s just been (no other way to describe it) so so so bad so far this season. No point in even talking about van dijk or konate. We are wasting Ali’s final years and I’m not convinced mamardashvilli is good enough. I don’t blame anyone for not reading this far (I probably wouldn’t) and sorry for the essay but I needed to vent.

{Ed025's Note - im a massive fan of Ali DH but i dont think he was great yesterday either mate, the infection seems to be spreading..

04 Dec 2025 13:39:21
Thought ali poor last nite as well, his worst game in a long time. He got lucky with 1 that hit crossbar as well.
Probably rustiness after injury, no doubt he be back to normal shortly.

{Ed025's Note - hopefully Digger, his kicking was poor as well for him mate..

04 Dec 2025 13:54:14
The only way I can describe it is the slow play is like a poison. Doing things slow doesn't sharpen the mind, and it then breeds complacency throughout the team.

I am all for drawing out the opposition but it feels like we never do anything quick. I remember one scenario with Wirtz where we did to get in the box and then he pulled it into the danger area. I feel very Clarkson in saying this, but speed is the answer. Doing things quick means the opposition has less time to react. Right now we are just playing in front of opponents, make a mistake, get broken through and it leads to a good chance for the opposition.

Then add to that the 4-3-3 doesn't suit the players we bought and it leaves us vulnerable constantly with very little threat.

I thought he stumbled on the way forward against West Ham, but after that woeful 45mins yesterday he reverted back to the system that hasn't been working for the season. Which leaves me drawing the only conclusion that he is stuck in his ways and something needs to give.

I grew up in Leeds, so not particularly looking forward to Saturday as I have an awful feeling we are going to lose and I will not hear the end of it!

04 Dec 2025 12:56:23
100% agree. I’m just saying he’s proven himself to be absolutely brilliant but even he’s looking bad/ less good. The whole buzz/ confidence is gone from the team and the fans. Last year I honestly thought it was wrong at the time. As soon as we had won the league he stopped demanding standards. He let the players fly here, there and everywhere, as did he. That would never have been allowed under klopp, Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho, Pep or possibly even Arteta.

They would’ve all gone for the jugular and won the league by as many points as possible. I know a 1 point win is enough but winning is a habit as is playing well. Out from the very odd occasion I’d argue that we haven’t played at all well since we clinched the league last season.

04 Dec 2025 12:57:43
It’s not like we have a whole lot of quality in depth in midfield though, particularly midfielders who can actually defend, and even then, Slot clearly has a pathological dislike of defensive midfielders. Was hoping West Ham was a corner, but it feels like a fluke result and an outlier.

04 Dec 2025 11:58:37
I agree with that 25. Spreading. Szobo been decent all season and he was also Miles off it last night.

04 Dec 2025 17:41:14
How is McConnell doing at Ajax? I was disappointed to see him go out on loan, as he’s always looked class - and we look a little light in midfield options.

04 Dec 2025 11:56:59
ED001, surely its time for Slot to be gone, heard a few people on here saying the fans are behind him . i know a few sang his name when we beat West ham but majority can see its more than not working this season .

so why do you think the reason he is still here . is it that there isn't any credible alternatives at this moment, if not a interim has got to come in, it can't be any worse than what's on offer.

{Ed001's Note - Edwards and Hughes personally chose him, he is their man, they believe in him and so are giving him as much time as possible to turn things round.}

04 Dec 2025 12:07:17
This is why I said Hughes should be held to account yesterday. Not saying we shouldn’t sack slot definitely should, but saying his position should be looked at as well.

04 Dec 2025 12:27:30
To me it looks obvious that Slot's vision for how the team should play is completely inappropriate for the premier league, almost like a fantasy that he concocted.
Thinking he could solve two of the issues under Klopp (end of season fatigue and injuries) by changing training to rondo's and banishing the lactate test without considering the consequences is amateur and egotistical.

I appreciate that Diogo's passing may be hanging heavy around the place, and we can't really quantify the effect this has had, but it seems obvious to me that Slot lacks certain leadership qualities and is a bit of a legend in his own mind.

We have gone from heavy metal football to supermarket music in the space of 18 months. The Athletic called this last summer - Slot's tactical set up provides diminishing returns after season 1.

I get that Eddie and Rich have to stick their choice, but how far can this go? We play awful football and are easy to play against.

Slot's vision is not working and he has no solutions. He didn't even sound sincere when he finally accepted the blame.

Eds, what can be done? Iraola would have L4 bouncing in no time, in my opinion. The crowd loves to see fight in the players. Under Slot its like everyone had a fat joint before the game.

04 Dec 2025 12:42:35
You would honestly think a loss at Leeds and it's curtains. Get Stevie G and Gary Mcallister in for a bit of a bounce over Xmas and work on a permanent replacement.

04 Dec 2025 12:49:06
It's only a matter of time now.

The players are defeated. The fans are flat. He looks dejected.

I assume the suits are actively lining up the next man as there's been nothing to suggest it can turned around. We started last night's game like we didn't want to be there.

It's just sad isn't it?

04 Dec 2025 13:41:59
Heavy metal football left in 2020 after our league title under Klopp. So I don't get why people keep saying that we should return to it. We've not played it for at least 5 years now. What we do need is intensity and purpose to our play.

It's so slow and disorganised. Even last seasons football, even though it wasn't high octane was better as we could see what the plan was. There isn't one this season.

04 Dec 2025 13:52:21
The only thing I will say in Slots defence is that the transition away from the aggressive Klopp style wasn't just him. We were heading that way under Pep Ljinders for two seasons before Slot came in anyway. Difference being then we had peak Ali, VVD, a hard working defensively focused midfield and Salah on fire to cover the deficits to the style of play. For me this coalesced into the best version of what this could be last season with the PL win, and whilst it was great, I put this down more to other top teams being off the pace rather than us being brilliant. Fast forward to now and Slots refusal to play a DM, lack of a physical game plan, other teams getting back to high standards and VVD and Salah falling off a cliff have all coalesced into the worst version of what this style could be.


Just my take, but for my part I have been saying the standard of footy has been poor for at least 3 years, relying more on individual moments of pure class rather than being a good 'team'. Weird as it sounds, the current situation doesn't really suprise me that much.
We need to transition to something that makes the most of the future of this team, without Salah, without VVD, and based on his inability to make it happen, without Slot either.

04 Dec 2025 12:59:57
With respect to Gerrard and McAllister, given their managerial CV’s, neither of them should be even thought about for this as they’re proven failures.

04 Dec 2025 14:04:10
If hughes and edwards are backing him, which is fine, but slot is taking the p. by not even improving 1 aspect of the game.

04 Dec 2025 14:44:24
I get that VV but surely just to fire these players up for a few weeks whilst someone suitable is found couldn't be any worse than what were seeing?

04 Dec 2025 15:54:00
Thing is Ernest, being diplomatic about this, Gerrard is a complete and utter personality vacuum and I can’t see him remotely being able to motivate anyone let alone a bunch of underperforming millionaires, he certainly couldn’t do it at Villa or out in Saudi. To call him a dullard is an understatement. He really should not be in contention or the discussion.

Let’s just remember what happened at United with Solskaer and Chelsea with Lampard as that’s the most likely outcome with Gerrard. Great players, but all the personality of a weekend in Slough.

04 Dec 2025 18:42:45
100% with you Viktor. Regards to Macallister, the players wouldn't even know who he was.

04 Dec 2025 21:29:25
Cheers for the reply ED001.hopefully something will be sorted sooner rather than later.

04 Dec 2025 11:10:44
We have now become doubters from believers!

04 Dec 2025 11:53:57
That’s what a run of awful defeats and even worse performances does to you.

04 Dec 2025 13:31:17
This is what happens when a manager does not have the psychological make up required to lead elite sports players.
There is a reason that Jurgen was 'rented out' by FSG to leadership conferences.
Slot is a decent coach for a tier 2 league side. Admitting that teams come to L4 expecting to get something is the final curtain.

Beef Curtains to Slot!

04 Dec 2025 13:49:17
Totally agree Rover.

04 Dec 2025 14:26:58
Ya think, Clarkkent?

04 Dec 2025 16:31:54
Slot has just ruined all the hard work built up from the Klopp reign in a matter of months!