11 Dec 2025 23:22:45
Cannot believe the amount of reds on here baying for Slot's blood.
Folks so ready to chalk his success down to Klopp have short memories. He revolutionised our side last year - made us much harder to beat - spotted something in Gravenberch nobody else had. To name but a few great decisions. And we won the league at a canter.
I would maybe understand the noise if there was a new wave Jurgen Klopp available to take over. But Xabi Alonso? Careful what you wish for. Yes, Alonso ran away with a title early in his career at Leverkusen (remind you of anyone? ) But since then, he's struggled. If he wasn't an ex-Red there would be nowhere near this level of noise. And as for Fabregas or Gerrard. I think we'd be crazy.
3 points off fourth. Going to qualify in UCL. Not where we want to be, but some would do well to remember the chopping and changing of the pre Klopp era. We are at the end of a cycle. A new one is beginning. It is a bumpy ride, but could be so, so much worse.
I really hope Slot proves the doubters wrong and turns it around.
Up The Reds
TBR.
11 Dec 2025 23:40:43
I kind of get where you’re coming from BootRoom and I thought the same until we conceded 10 goals in 3 games, 2 of which were teams we should beating comfortably.
That caused me to totally lose confidence in Slot. He might be slowly clawing that back. I’m glad he dropped Salah and faced the repercussions because that tells me he will make the tough decisions if necessary and I was starting to wonder.
As for Alonso he was brilliant all 3 seasons he was at Leverkusen. Punching well above his weight and taking over when they were languishing at the bottom of the table he finished 6th, 1st and 2nd. That’s quite an incredible record especially when you consider Bayern basically own that league.
He’s struggling at Madrid but I have no doubt that if they back him against the egos and give him time he will do something similar to what Enrique has done at PSG.
Right now I would take Alonso over Slot all day long but if Alonso isn’t available I’ll back Slot and hope he gets himself back to where he was last season because last season he was nothing short of sensational.
11 Dec 2025 23:45:27
Does the man instill faith and confidence in you that he can?
I see a typicl Dutch manager in the prem, trying to do Dutch things.
12 Dec 2025 01:52:48
Fair play, Sean Dundee. Maybe I’m a bit harsh on Alonso there, I suppose I just don’t agree with those who seem to think it would be all plain sailing were he to come in. As it never is with any manager.
We’re all so quick to crisis or to thinking we’re on top of the world is more my point.
How many of those 10 goals are down to Slot’s tactics directly, would be my question? The buck stops with him, I get it, but what can be done when Konate is having a dip in form and your M Guehi solution was fumbled on a business level.
Many new players to bed in. Many of the old guard moved on or struggling with form.
I have a lot of time for Slot and always will. PL winner. He’s a cracking manager, and whatever happens I reckon he’ll go on to have an incredible career. I just hope the next chapter of that career continues at Anfield.
YNWA.
12 Dec 2025 04:33:23
BootRoom, you also have to consider that he has led us into our worst run of form in over 70 years. There was a period where we lost nine out of 12 matches across all competitions, which is the most defeats we’ve had over any 12-game stretch since the early 1950s. We also lost three games in a row by a margin of three goals or more, something that hasn’t happened at the club since 1953.
These aren’t stats I made up to make Slot look bad, you can look them up and verify them yourself. All of this happened while he had the likes of Alisson, VVD, Szoboszlai, Salah, Isak, and Wirtz - to name just a few - in his squad. And this isn’t a case of a weakened or transitional squad. This is a team stacked with internationals, title-winners, and players at or near their prime. The expectations were naturally higher, and falling so dramatically below them can’t just be brushed aside as a “bumpy ride. ”
It’s especially telling considering we once had Roy Hodgson as our manager, and he had Paul Konchesky, Danny Wilson, Christian Poulsen, and Milan Jovanovic in his squad.
12 Dec 2025 04:39:44
We can pin the 10 goals down to slot though, although not fully. No one can account for Konate's brainfart in giving away the pen against Leeds. But it was Slot's instructions to drop deep and defend the lead when we look much better attacking. It happened last season too but the only difference is that the chances that the opponents create this time lead to goals instead of just chances. It was also his choice to continue playing Konate despite having a fit Gomez on the bench. It was also Slot's choice to drop an in-form Ekitike for an unfit Isak. I could go on and on about his tactics and team selection but I think most of it has already been discussed here.
I would say though that I was impressed by Slot last year. He made micro changes throughout games to make sure that we're always ahead tactically and he improved on the fitness of the players by getting them to do yoga and mobility exercises. But this season is just the complete opposite. Players look undercooked and unfit, and he is persisting with the same tactics despite it not working. The one time he changed and it worked, he quickly reverted back to what didn't.
At the end of the day, we want Liverpool to do well, whether it is with Slot at the helm or not. If he can turn this around then I'll be happy and pleased too. But as it stands, with how things are going, it does look like he's holding us back and we need to drop him if we want to progress.
12 Dec 2025 06:36:35
3 points of 4th, just take that statement in. Premier League Champions and £450 million of new toys and we are fighting for forth spot? and that’s not a given may I add. Pretty sure, with the money spent was to strengthen our position at the top and not be in contention with the also rans.
12 Dec 2025 06:45:52
The form has been shocking, you’re right. But then again, he started the season with 5 wins on the bounce. Maybe if the bad results had been less concentrated he wouldn’t have been given such a hard time.
I suppose I am just surprised to see so many fans so hungry to bin him when I really don’t think any of the alternatives are sure things. Far from it. I see a lot of sideways steps or downgrades.
Big questions ahead for Slot and the players, but I’ll be hoping he can answer them and turn this around.
TBR.
12 Dec 2025 07:04:31
A lot of good points there bootroom and I would've agreed with a lot until the forest+ psv matches that's when I felt slot should go as I couldn't see him turning it around. i would love to be proven wrong on that and he does turn it around . as u say there doesn't seem to be that overly many options out there, I do like ireaola but again it's big gamble to see can he move to a club the size of lfc, alonso I'm not sure on 2 b honest. We played his teams twice in last 2 champion league campaigns and I thought they v poor.
Slot has money in bank from last season as I thought he outstanding but he's got something badly wrong this season, there's no way we should be as bad as we have been for quality of player we have.
our press is probably worst in the league, totally uncoordinated, we worst at set pieces both attacking + defending and we don't look fit compared to our opponents in prem league. Them is the responsibility of management to have basics right, they can't always legislate for big drop off in form of certain players and changing over from old guard to new isn't simple but they should have them basics right.
12 Dec 2025 07:04:43
@Sean, why do you think we have a right to beat teams in our league ‘comfortably’?
12 Dec 2025 07:19:08
TBR, people are not happy with Slot for a number of reasons. Firstly, I do beleive he won the league based on a Klopp team, who were fit, well rounded and didn't need much input from Slot to know their game and tactics. All Slot had to do was steer a auto piloted ship with little input needed to maintain course, direction and trajectory.
That said, I do see what he did in terms of Grav and made him a wonderful player that wasnt previously spotted. But this for me is where it ends. On winning the league, Slot tried to implement his own stamp and tactics on the squad and its been down hill not just this season, but the end of last season. He doesn't seem know how to make changes when required and does a very like for like sub when we need to get a grip of a game. He has decided that the players don't need to be as fit as when Klopp was here and that shows us running out of puff and then cannot change the game and lose. Slot doesn't seem to have the knowledge or experience to revert back to what made us great, hard to play against and our game play is readable and boring. Slot has more excuses that a politician caught on cocaine in a whore house on public funds.
Baz.
12 Dec 2025 07:27:26
We started the season with 5 wins bootroom but they was all lucky or was more to the point that teams where at our fitness levels as the season had just started. Now then season has got into full throttle Slots training methods are showing our fitness levels are not up to it and if teams play at a high intensity we can’t compete. This is not a new issue this started in February when Klopps fitness standards were driven out of our players.
Also because of his methods he can only play the same players because the back ups are nowhere near fit enough to come in.
As for Alonso troubles at Madrid that is not an Alonso issue that’s there squad being full of players that feel they have the right to do what ever they want and the manager is there to facilitate that.
12 Dec 2025 07:57:48
TBR
YNWA!
ISG.
12 Dec 2025 09:09:04
WDW we have absolutely no right to beat anyone as has been proven and I’m not so entitled to believe we do.
However you have to admit that losing 0-3 to Forest and 1-4 to PSV in consecutive matches at Anfield is cause for concern and brings the manager into question.
Anfield has always been our saviour, our 12th man so to lose 2 games so convincingly in quick succession points to something being seriously wrong.
12 Dec 2025 09:31:57
Boot room . you don't want Alonso or Fab for the manager but you want to stick with someone who team is playing a lot worse than their 2 teams because, you think it would be better to stick . have you been watching us for season we are absolutely terrible, we get out worked, out run n out played most games .
I agree with one point though he turned Grav into a great midfielder but this year he turned him back onto the midfielder he was under Klopp.
12 Dec 2025 10:23:11
"Folks so ready to chalk his success down to Klopp have short memories. "
What it this, @Bootroom? Pls, don't project that onto the whole part of the fan base who want Slot out. Many of us actually couldn't give a crap how he won the title or whose team it was. Slot won the title on HIS own merits and hats off to him, his staff and the players (RIP DJ20, btw) and for me, I will always be grateful for that.
Now, many of us want him out cos he has deliberately walked away from the system that made us great and replaced it with one that has led us to 10th in the league, one of the worst defences in the league, the most goals conceded from set-pieces, the most goals conceded from individual errors. Mate, you want more of this cos there's a lot more where all the above came from? As for the 5 wins, are you serious? Many of us sounded the alarm already that things weren't looking good so what are you on about?
I tried to support him, I really did. But after the Sun. game, I gave up cos he won't change. This is the hill (the system) he is going to perish on (football-wise) and from that moment, it shows that Slot don't give a crap about the club doing well provided he proves his point that this system will work. And from there, I was out hence, Slot out. He will go. Just a matter of time and I got patience for days, mate.
12 Dec 2025 10:26:00
Lots of valid points above which undoubtably brings the manager, the transfer committee and a number of players ability into question. But they deserve a chance to turn it around and there have been signs they can turn it around, so it’s still too early to be sacking the manager.
If Slot learns from this and my impression is he will and turns it around then it will make him a better manager and the club will be in a very good position for years to come.
12 Dec 2025 11:19:42
@Sean, I agree with you - the two losses you mention, as well as others along the way - were / are cause for concern but that’s a different matter.
@Drac, how’s it Slot’s fault that we conceded 10 goals in three games? His tactics didn’t help, but the 11 on the pitch with a collective mind boggling weekly wage as elite professional footballers could perhaps have done a little bit more to prevent the opposition from scoring?
12 Dec 2025 11:21:13
The 5 wins on the bounce, papered over a lot of cracks. I admit I was initially just sure it was teething problems and as the team gelled we'd start handing out some right hammering.
Just didn't happen we got slower and slower and worse and worse.
2 good performances playing with intensity, back to the dross. I fear the Milan game again papers over thing again. As the good and decent performances are far to far apart.
What we need to see is continuous improvement and consistency starting tomorrow.
I think too much harm has been done for Arne and his team to stay, the regression has been alarming. If he turns it around. well. good for him. I just don't see it being a big enough turn around.
Hughes, i am not sure of. he stepped up with the recruitment. But the continuous backing of the manager and the apparent behind the back negotiations to sell Mo don't sit right.
12 Dec 2025 01:15:53
This is actually even more reason he should be sacked, if a manager can get the squad so pumped in the first season then completely destroy it's identity and way of football the next season shows you that he can't be trusted with another season as you never know what you're going to get.
12 Dec 2025 11:37:58
Wdw . of course it was the managers fault we conceded 10 goals in 3 games . he picks the side, tactics makes the subs . even a blind man could see Konate was a total liability but who kept picking him.
12 Dec 2025 11:56:59
Karlos, I fully agree with you esp. with your first two paragraphs. Im not fooled. The Inter result ( very good result in isolation) does not prove a damn thing. The issues are still there except if people choose to ignore them and be "positive", which is fine.
Our CF's are way too isolated with NO service from the flanks, something you need to thrive in the PL. We play a diamond yet with NO width from the FB's? My eyes are still open and the Inter result (just like the WH result) will never pull the wool over my eyes.
Brighton is going to be a real problem cos they have the ability to exploit every single flaw we have in our system, which are not few.
12 Dec 2025 15:16:15
WDW, I should have phrased it better. I should have said that Slot had a part to play with us conceding those 10 goals in 3 games. He set the team up to play and chose the players to carry out his system. True there were individual errors but we also need to question whether the system placed the players under unnecessary pressure that caused those errors.
The slow build up play, the emptying of midfield, and the bunkering down to protect a one goal lead with plenty of time still to play for all played a part in us conceding goals. So yes, Slot had a hand to play in us conceding 10 goals on 3 games.