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27 Aug 2024 14:49:16
Afternoon ed002 I've not been on much son has been in the icu. So I am well out of what's been going on. From the out goings am very happy I think are squad is in a very good place think a couple additions would be nice for long term future, can you tell me kind of player varela is a ball winner number 6 or more of a footballing one. Thanks Ed.
{Ed002's Note - Firstly I hope your sone is OK. Varela is very much a traditional Defensive Midfield player rather than a more versatile player who is comfortable in CM. He would be a good addition, but expensive.
Alan Varela (DM) Barcelona may offer a profit to Porto and a player in exchange. PSG interest went when Neves moved. An option for Manchester City to replace Phillips, but not first choice although they have spoken with Porto. Bayern Munich consider him an option to replace Kimmich. Liverpool are following up on several scouting missions to see if something can be done. Chelsea sent scouts but no more. Dortmund will not match his buy out clause. Don't rule out Arsenal. Porto has no interest in selling the player who only joined them in the summer of 2023 unless someone offered his buy out clause in a single payment, then the player will be consulted.}
1.) 27 Aug 2024 15:44:05
Best wishes grino, varela would be a lovely asset to the team, hope we can get it done. What is his buy out clause anyway?
2.) 27 Aug 2024 15:19:12
Is he THAT much better than Endo?
{Ed002's Note - I have no way of measuring that but he is younger.}
3.) 27 Aug 2024 16:13:52
Grino hope your son recovers well YNWA.
4.) 27 Aug 2024 16:20:12
Best wishes to your son @Grino.
5.) 27 Aug 2024 16:30:57
I thought Slot was adamant that he didn't want an out and out DM?
6.) 27 Aug 2024 16:31:30
All the best Grino.
7.) 27 Aug 2024 16:35:18
Hope he gets better soon. Ynwa mate.
8.) 27 Aug 2024 18:12:23
Thanks Ed and everybody else for the the kind words.
9.) 27 Aug 2024 20:01:34
Just watching the Sky Sports transfer coverage, neither contributor thinks LFC will make any signings before the deadline.
I really don’t see the benefit of Chiesa unless either Diaz or Salah are going to leave, and both looked in top form/ happy when playing this weekend.
If there aren’t any signings, and both MC and Arsenal look well placed to kick on this year, personally I think it is an underwhelming return for Edwards et al.
10.) 27 Aug 2024 20:53:10
Grino well wishes to you and your son mate.
11.) 27 Aug 2024 21:01:07
Stay strong, Grino. Praying for your son.
12.) 27 Aug 2024 21:02:29
All the best to you and your family, Grino. You'll never walk alone.
13.) 27 Aug 2024 22:04:59
All the best for your son Grino.
06 Jan 2024 12:40:12
Ed002 any truth in us making an opening bid for goncalo inacio seen a few things on the internet. Think I it's just click bait seems very unlikely with the amount being mentioned as only £26m.
{Ed002's Note - No, but an offer has been made by Arsenal but I expect it to be rejected.}
14 Sep 2023 07:34:35
ed002 any truth in the rumours of Thiago making a move to turkey before there transfer window closes.
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach to LIverpool.}
1.) 14 Sep 2023 11:29:26
I doubt it will happen mainly because I don't think the player would be willing to take a significant enough wage cut to make it happen and also clearly still has eyes on a return to Barcelona as a free agent by the sounds of things.
From Liverpools point of view I think it would have to be considered even for minimal or no fee.
You are talking a saving of 10-15 mill on wages and healthcare! I think we would be in a healthy situation moving forward financially with the reduction in wage budget this summer especially if things did accept a move. also if there was a move on the table so all a moot point I guess!
2.) 14 Sep 2023 11:45:24
I am wondering if Trent is going to sign a new deal, or intends to leave on a free in 2025.
3.) 14 Sep 2023 12:48:49
PickleRick I'm pretty sure the a few of the turkish teams could afford decent wages.
4.) 14 Sep 2023 13:53:49
I'd rather keep Thiago for the season and lose him for free in the summer. He is still quality but he's had to play too many games the past few seasons because of injuries, then he picks up his own injuries because of that. I think he has a lot to offer this season if his minutes are managed better.
5.) 14 Sep 2023 14:02:39
You should email the club @Centrepoint, they might have an idea.
6.) 14 Sep 2023 14:43:53
I don't see Trent going anywhere. There is plenty of time to get a deal worked out.
7.) 14 Sep 2023 16:16:07
Liverpools club doctor and physios are in for a long, boring season aren’t they. ?
Ox, Naby and now Thiago!
8.) 14 Sep 2023 16:45:46
Centerpoint keeps asking the same question about Trent's contract, he's desperate for him to not sign one.
9.) 14 Sep 2023 20:13:24
Barca just signed Cancelo, that solves their Right back imbalance, Balde plays the left side, so I don’t see Trent being looked at.
Tell you what tho, Barcelona RW Yamal looks a prospect tho, full Spanish cap and goal to boot, left footed, see if he continues.
10.) 14 Sep 2023 23:03:50
Cancelo is average at best from what I’ve seen of him.
11.) 15 Sep 2023 07:11:56
WDW, it’s all good, we didn’t sign him.
12.) 15 Sep 2023 08:35:30
The point being that Barcelona might actually want a useful rb in a season or two.
{Ed002's Note - Barcelona know exactly who the long-term solution for them at RB is and have shown no interest at all in TAA.}
13.) 15 Sep 2023 18:31:16
Is Cancelo average? Always looked very good to me.
14.) 15 Sep 2023 23:36:10
Thanks Ed02.
15.) 17 Sep 2023 21:29:21
Personally I see Trent moving on next summer if an extension to his contract is not agreed, he’s too valuable to let leave on a free, but I don’t see him getting the assurance that’s he will be played in midfield which is clearly where he sees his future, I don’t see him playing midfield for us anytime soon on a regular basis.
29 Aug 2023 11:57:08
Ed002 with us after Lavia before Fabinho left and with no plan to sell this summer now he has gone do you think the club will look to add another Dm in the future. I can't see Endo as much of a long term plan but if we do add another he could be like Milner for the squad with being able to fill in a few places.
I do think the prices this summer have been a little over the top especially for players with premier league experience. The price quoted for andre trindade seem a bargain compared to doucoure.
{Ed002's Note - I think prioritising another strictly DM player now would be a mistake. The priority should be elsewhere. Perhaps if Bajcetic were to not be given a chance and leave Liverpool could look to another - that depends on Klopp of course. Find a versatile CM player like Gravenberch or Amrabat etc. then perhaps that would suit.}
1.) 29 Aug 2023 12:54:56
Would Bajcetic be that versatile CM player? He do play a lot alongside Fab last season and look better than playing as a lone DM. Then perhaps we could look to a more proven 1st choice DM and Endo could become a squad player instead like Milner being able to cover few positions.
{Ed002's Note - He is a youngster - they won't know.}
2.) 29 Aug 2023 13:11:23
Ed002 do you the Bajcetic is a Dm seems he played as an 8 a lot last season when he looked at his best.
{Ed002's Note - He is a youngster who the club will be hoping is adaptable.}
3.) 29 Aug 2023 13:18:26
Bajcetic has the potential to be our best midfielder so he has to have game time. Endo takes the Milner role.
4.) 29 Aug 2023 13:55:24
I adore the kid. I really hope he kicks on this season.
5.) 29 Aug 2023 14:01:13
Why do you think recruting a pure DM would be a mistake, Ed002? You don't see the use for him, or you just think the time and money can be better utilzed?
Kind regards
Smedegaard.
{Ed002's Note - There are others who can play there and the need is CM.}
6.) 29 Aug 2023 15:09:43
Bajcetic is not a DM. I view him as part of a double pivot with a destroyer alongside to give the ball to him and let him play. He is more an alonso/ Thiago player and we need a mascherano type alongside him. Would view him as the CM cover we need and should be going for another primary DM who can cover CM if needed not the other way round.
{Ed002's Note - You need a "Klopp Out" sign, perhaps with "Bajcetic Out" on the other side.}
7.) 29 Aug 2023 15:13:03
Any update on negotiations etc eds? Is Gravenberch likely? Seems a hard one to get over line and he prefers united?
{Ed002's Note - I have no interest whatsoever of trying to give blow-by-blow updates.}
8.) 29 Aug 2023 15:56:06
Just because Bajectic has the vision to see a pas, ability to perform that pass and good in tight spaces doesn’t mean he’s not a DM. He played his entire youth career as a CB and having those abilities probably makes him the best suited player we have at being a DM, based on my not knowing much about Endo just yet. I remember him ‘destroying’ plenty during his short run in the team last year before his injury.
Alisson scored a blinder of a header a couple of seasons ago but he’s not a striker is he?
9.) 29 Aug 2023 16:04:20
Bajcetic in my opinion looked ready to be a regular in the team. I’m not sure there’s need to panic buy Elliot came on against Newcastle and looked good endo needs a bit of time with the team the new lads look good and it’s only been 3 games. Thiago I know has had a lot of criticism on here but if he’s fit he is world class. Gomez looked good and is still only 26 I believe so in summary macca szobo endo Elliot Jones bajcetic thiago 7 players 3 places. Up top looks good just imo light at right back. Gomez and Trent but I’d prefer to see gomez as cb vvd konate matip quansah I like seeing youth coming through with the experience of vvd Thiago Salah on the field. Also if we had another right back Trent can be a cm option. My opinion squad looks good matip who I think is great needs replacing and we need a rb maybe dm cover maybe. But I think that’s greedy. Also I think early days but szobo looks like a special player.
10.) 29 Aug 2023 16:56:38
Far too sensible Harrhy.
That’s a grown up response to a realistic appraisal of our squad.
We have, and always have had, a blend of our and our specialists and a mix of multi-use players.
We have a good mix right now.
11.) 29 Aug 2023 19:50:05
I'm really surprised some fans don't see Bajetic as a DM, and someone said he was 'no 8'.
He's a pure DM through and through in my eyes, and that's where he'll play this season. I'm excited for him, Szobo, and Mac to play together.
Elsewhere, thanks for all the input and interactions over the summer Ed002!
12.) 29 Aug 2023 21:15:38
Bajcetic is a kid learning his trade, klopp will play him in different positions until one fits both the team and the player long term. It's far too early to place a label on him as either a 6 or an 8.
Take trent for example, he was a midfielder then broke into the first team due to a shortage of quality in the right back position. Elliot was predominantly a winger in his Fulham days and again predominantly at rovers.
These are just kids who need time to develop without the pressure of being labelled one way or the other. Baj will at some point have a dip in form so to put the pressure on him as being a first teamer it will just knock his confidence. He, along with Tyler morton, quansah, Gordon Doak and all the other kids with potential need to be given the time by the fans and in turn the media who let's be honest, after a handful of good games start with the call up to the international squads.
There's so little patience these days. I remember Wayne Harrison signing for us from Oldham and he was going to be the next Ian rush, too much pressure on the kid from the off and it ended up a terribly sad story for that lad. who else remembers him?
13.) 29 Aug 2023 21:23:16
Bajcetic. when i was 18. I hadn't had a beer. Wasn't comfortable in my own skin. My mum was my hero. Acne, fashion. the right words, standing normally. back off people, give the guy a break. let him grow! . I am probably over sensitive about allowing kids to be kids and find their own mojo.
14.) 29 Aug 2023 21:48:22
once Baj gets a few games under his belt, I really think that he will be a fans favorite .
15.) 30 Aug 2023 05:33:09
So no pressure on the lad then.
16.) 30 Aug 2023 06:30:32
I’d love for us to get a top top CDM given how much pressure we put on that position with our style of play, and then we can let Endo be our Milner/ Super sub.
As for Bajcetic, he’s a fantastic talent, but he’s still a young kid so we should ease him in, just like Man City did Foden. Bajcetic should still be able to get plenty of time, as he’s very capable at either 6 or 8, and playing him slightly further forward is a far better option than using Gakpo there (who is an out and out forward IMO) .
22 Aug 2023 13:51:45
Ed002 could you see us bidding for Andre this window for him to come in January would cut out the risk of other side that are not interested coming in for him if things change for them by January.
{Ed002's Note - I am not sure Flumimemse would be interested in that unless paying over the odds now.}
1.) 22 Aug 2023 14:29:12
Just a thought - Andre seems to be our preferred 'younger' CDM and it looks like we could save money by pushing for him in Jan (maybe getting a deal done in the next couple of months with Fluminese for a Jan transfer) .
Would a loan for the year give him the opportunity to arrive and settle in whilst providing cover for Endo and Baj?
Could that loan be *cough* Kalvin Phillips *cough*
*runs away under a hail of rotten tomatoes*.
2.) 22 Aug 2023 15:40:36
I believe the 2 main problems are that Fluminense only own 80% of him and they want to keep him whilst they are still in the Copa Libertadores.
The second leg of the quarter final finishes at 1:30pm uk time on transfer deadline day. If they lose we would have 19.5 hours to finalise the deal. It would mean no defender though unless they are homegrown or young enough not to count!
{Ed002's Note - The transfer window is shut so they cannot replace him.}
3.) 22 Aug 2023 15:24:56
Zed, I am a man with a very particular set of skills. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you retract that statement now that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you, but if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you and I will kill you.
4.) 22 Aug 2023 16:04:47
Davey, I can't stop imagining Seth Macfarlane as Kermit the Frog saying those exact lines and giggling! Google it, it's hilarious!
5.) 22 Aug 2023 16:18:31
We seem to be making a real mess of getting a DM on the door don’t we. Bidding for players who agreed to go elsewhere or players that with complications.
6.) 22 Aug 2023 16:24:40
Zed, this is what happens to your brain when you don't medicate that nasty cough you seem to have. Take some syrup immediately. And watch such thoughts (loaning in Philips) disappear as if they were never ever there. ?.
7.) 22 Aug 2023 16:26:38
Davey, I'm with you if you need a person to play "lookout" for you if it's needed.
8.) 22 Aug 2023 18:27:12
God the doubters are back in force!
Get behind your team I say!
YNWA.
9.) 22 Aug 2023 20:57:06
Daretodream, you mean like Endo, the player we got in just 5 days ago?
10.) 22 Aug 2023 20:58:38
Zeddicus, I bet you wouldn't find those quotes hilarious had Miss Piggy made them. I promise you that, lol.
11.) 22 Aug 2023 21:26:49
You’re dead right there Oli, if Miss Piggy had said them they would be even more chilling than Liam Neeson saying them!
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11 Jan 2025 21:26:49
Hope we pull one out of the bag with Kvaratskhelia think we are missing a massive opportunity here to sign a truly world class player. Surely he would choose us over psg much better chance to win big honours here and with his international team mate joining in the summer. And with all the talk about Diaz not agreeing terms and hoping to move to Barcelona think it makes sense to plan for the future as well.
1.) 11 Jan 2025 21:37:30
We would be pumping a lot of money on a position we have a lot of great players already.
I prefer we target the gaps in the squad.
We need competition for Gravenberch.
We need a LB.
We need a CB.
I'd like to see movements and money put towards these positions.
2.) 11 Jan 2025 21:58:36
Don’t hold your breath Davey.
3.) 11 Jan 2025 21:59:37
Agreed Davey mate.
4.) 11 Jan 2025 22:26:43
Davey he is an upgrade on Diaz and younger so if we could bring him in and sell Diaz in the summer because after this summer his value will only decrease. And with only two years on his contract I think is a prime time to do this.
5.) 11 Jan 2025 22:53:20
He's going to PSG.
6.) 12 Jan 2025 00:06:47
100% Davey.
7.) 12 Jan 2025 00:42:17
With Hughes tracking record we will by him and lend him to PSG for two years while paying his wages.
8.) 12 Jan 2025 01:37:40
How many attackers can we have though? Of course i’d like us to sign top quality players but we don’t have a limitless budget and there is at least 4 positions that could use strengthening first (LB, CB, Mid, Striker) .
9.) 12 Jan 2025 05:56:04
Barca don’t need Diaz is the problem. I would swap them but can’t see Diaz being anywhere near first choice for them and they have enough attacking talent. They like us probs need a CF.
10.) 12 Jan 2025 11:21:07
Can Barcelona even register a player though? I thought they can't even register Olmo or Pau because of their bloated wage bill.
11.) 12 Jan 2025 12:59:48
Davey, these were the same positions many of us were speaking about even in the summer and that has not changed as of right now apart from getting the type of cover Slot wants for Grav cos we all know hos he does not rate Endo DESPITE how good and experienced Endo is at that position.
Now come this summer, things may change based on who is available and who stays/ leaves but basically, those 3 positions are the ones we need and frankly, I don't see all of them getting sorted this Jan. One position, perhaps.
11 Jan 2025 11:40:31
What is going on with Federico Chiesa surely he should be starting this game. If there is something going where he is leaving this January why have him on the bench for the last two games. I find this one very strange think if we get his match fitness up he can offer a lot in the second half of the season.
1.) 11 Jan 2025 11:55:41
long term injury, built on glass foundations. needs a bit more time to get his body ready.
But in saying that, it's not a good look or offering much hope if a child is starting ahead of him at home in a cup gave vs League 2 opponents.
2.) 11 Jan 2025 11:58:58
He's never making it at Liverpool mate. 150k per week on what? he's done nothing. How long does it take to get match fit? Ward buggering about with the contracts and goes and gives this lad 150k a week lol you can't make this stuff up.
3.) 11 Jan 2025 12:02:12
I asked on the live chat. and will ask here as well, how did Chiesa pass our medical?
4.) 11 Jan 2025 12:07:16
The injury prone player that we signed injured, been injured all season, is injured.
5.) 11 Jan 2025 12:11:12
I see him basically being another Arthur. It's hard to see a situation where it works out if he's not fit enough to play against a league two side.
6.) 11 Jan 2025 12:13:42
Slot is taking revenge on the board and I can’t love him more. The fans are p. poor anyways so slot has taken the charge.
7.) 11 Jan 2025 12:14:00
Probably off to Napoli so psg can sign Kvaratskhelia . Another masterclass by hughes.
8.) 11 Jan 2025 12:15:03
Chiesa has been ill this week otherwise he would have started.
9.) 11 Jan 2025 12:15:28
It can take Chiesa the full season and next pre-season to get himself ready.
10.) 11 Jan 2025 12:22:50
JLC, that question looms large at this time, sadly.
11.) 11 Jan 2025 12:39:52
Exactly JLC.
12.) 11 Jan 2025 12:40:51
I thought he looked ok in that last cup game he started. I would rather him have started today ahead of Nunez.
13.) 11 Jan 2025 13:18:12
We should saved the money gave it to Trent and alls good in the world.
14.) 11 Jan 2025 13:24:03
loving all the conjecture based evidence lol.
15.) 11 Jan 2025 13:27:55
Sell him before he becomes unsellable.
16.) 11 Jan 2025 14:06:18
This thread hasn't aged well. Chiesa has been really good since coming on.
Clearly there was a plan to get minutes in Slobz legs today.
17.) 11 Jan 2025 14:07:38
Good goal.
18.) 11 Jan 2025 14:11:14
Played and scored. Another 2 or 3 goals and he’ll be ahead of young Darwin in the goal scoring chart.
19.) 11 Jan 2025 14:13:10
Well he scored today and I do really hope he proves me wrong lol.
20.) 11 Jan 2025 14:16:52
Good goal, Federico Chiesa. Solid half from him, plenty of endeavour and his name on the scoresheet.
Now, who’s the next player to be cut to ribbons on here?
21.) 11 Jan 2025 14:17:47
I honestly think he will be a great signing for us. Give the fella time, he’s on a four five year contract, not a six month one.
22.) 11 Jan 2025 14:24:18
Hey Salah, you feel any differently after that display? He looked great to me, could have had a hat trick, admittedly poor opposition, but his reading of the game and the space he found was great. Personally I think it’s just a very long time to get him fit and firing, if he can stay fit I think he’ll fly in the coming months.
23.) 11 Jan 2025 14:38:11
Great goal ????.
24.) 11 Jan 2025 14:42:28
I thought he looked good today when he came on and took his goal well.
At least wait until the end of the match before hammering him lads?
25.) 11 Jan 2025 14:55:12
Hoody, no I don't feel any different mate because it was against Accrington. I hope you are right mate but I just can't see it.
26.) 11 Jan 2025 15:09:12
Heard the commentator say chiesa had fever this week.
27.) 11 Jan 2025 15:27:20
Enrico is an experienced pro who is anything but flustered on the pitch. When fit he is as good as it gets for a football player he has everything absolutely everything except for the ability to avoid injury and stay fit. If he could stay fit he is a 50 million plus player and would be a great asset in the team starting or from the bench. I was happier for his goal than Jayden’s but at the same time elated for them both. Could both push for a first team place if the stars align.
28.) 11 Jan 2025 15:32:03
Livebird031, Slot said last week already that Chiesa was struggling with illness during the same time Szobo was out sick.
As for the game itself, got the job done, got minutes in the legs and no injuries. On to Forrest.
29.) 11 Jan 2025 15:32:35
Ah shoot I called Federico his father’s name Enrico but have been on the Heineken and I used to buy his dad on champ manager back in the day. My bad. Really hoping he stays and stays fit. A proper baller!
30.) 11 Jan 2025 17:00:18
Sorry olired. I didn't read that presser. Actually that euro chiesa was so good, and with ed01 also saying he wanted him to replace mo (before his acl) and ed01 is almost always spot on in tactics, identifying who would work best for us, and me personally liking him was so happy when he signed for us. I definitely want to see him more and giving rest for our forward line when 60+ mins are done for example. Also Danns has to get game time. He's been amazing for us so far. If im not wrong 3 goals in under 100 mins or so is very mo like ?.
31.) 11 Jan 2025 19:10:06
Oh, no prob. Liverbird1. Just adding more info to the one you posted. On Federico (or his dad Enrico, lol), I have followed that kid's progression since I knew he was Enrico's son. I wanted him back then even tho, I knew it would never happen due to how much he would cost. Like you, I thought he was special.
In fact, he was rated a 100M player before he tore his ACL. I don't know how someone who tore his ACL can be injury prone or made of glass BUT that is the nonsense we have to deal with some of our fans. Is VVD made of class now cos he tore his ACL? Yeah, me neither.
Like you, I was happy he signed for us if only to see him play for us which was my pet dream at the time. Whatever happens, we will all be fere to see it BUT still chuffed to bits he played well today and scored. Immense footballer, with great mentality, determination and desire to succeed. You know, just like Enrico, lol.
32.) 11 Jan 2025 19:10:56
Oh, and I love Danns, too. I love all our young players regardless of whatever they become with us or elsewhere.
10 Jan 2025 12:35:19
Ed001 what's your view on Kvaratskhelia, his age for me makes him a great signing and if the £70m asking price is the starting point think it would be a great signing. I think we should maybe cash in on Diaz in the summer with only 2 years left and at 28 would be perfect time.
{Ed001's Note - I think he is a great player and would love him in the squad.}
1.) 10 Jan 2025 12:49:29
He would take us up a level, just find it impossible to believe.
2.) 10 Jan 2025 12:57:30
Yeah me too I can remember talking to you about him before we played them that year and saying he frightened out of me as to what he was going to do to us and he never proved my nerves wrong. I see a lot of people saying we don’t need another left attacker but I don’t think anyone thought we needed another keeper in the summer. I also think he is massive upgrade on our left attackers and would be like a trine Mane replacement for quality.
3.) 10 Jan 2025 13:14:15
Anybody who get's compared to Maradona (and the comparison isn't met with laughter or mockery) is one hell of a player. He's probably the most powerful runner with the ball in world football and unlike other players who are lauded as superb ball carriers (like Hazard or Grealish for example) Kvaradona actually has consistent end product to his game. He'd be one of the most exciting signings in Liverpool FC history. It doesn't matter that we have players in his position already. He's going to be one of the top 5 players of his generation in my opinion. If we have a chance to sign him, we have to at least try.
4.) 10 Jan 2025 14:01:35
Diaz is one of best players I have no idea why anyone would want to get rid of him he is a nightmare for defenders unlike the one trick pony Gakpo. We need reinforcements all over the pitch but I doubt the club is smart enough to realise this.
5.) 10 Jan 2025 14:11:35
The transfer window really draws the stupidity out of some people. Gakpo a one trick pony? What a load of nonsense.
6.) 10 Jan 2025 14:27:21
If a contract renewel cannot be agreed with Diaz then the summer is the ideal time to sell him, we wouldn't want a key asset running into the last 12 months of his contract would we? Kvaratskhelia would not only be a good replacement but probably an up-grade. If he becomes available we should at least give it a go.
7.) 10 Jan 2025 14:34:24
I reckon the Maradona comparison is because they both played for Napoli.
If he's a fifth as good as Maradona he is good.
I don't know anything about the Georgian and the comparisons but Maradona was the best ever, for me.
It was like he had complete control over the ball. I still love to watch clips of him now.
A genius.
8.) 10 Jan 2025 14:40:08
Sadly its said the club will not sign him. Nobody wants rid of Diaz Lucas, but contract negotiations with him are going nowhere and he wants Barcelona.
9.) 10 Jan 2025 15:00:42
Kvara is my favorite player to watch and I have said about 20 times on here that I would love to see him in a red shirt, but this was before cody showed us the player that he can be on the left flank. The thing is that cody has been superb on both sides of the ball and his overall game has just gone up by a few levels this year.
Kvara is a very unique player in that he can, as can cody for that matter, carry and create all by himself, a lot of his goals and goal involvements just involve him picking the ball up from deep, driving at the defense or tearing defenders up one on one all on his own. Basically he is like a one person battering ram on the left flank, you give him the ball and he surges up the field. That being said I don’t know how he would adapt to our sort of game, defensively as well, would be interesting to see, and he likes to have speculative pops from distance that can half the time end up in the stands.
10.) 10 Jan 2025 15:15:08
I don't mind if Diaz goes.
A replacement shouldn't be too hard to find. Filling Mane's boots was always going to be hard but even he had to go at the end.
11.) 10 Jan 2025 15:46:57
Kvaratskhelia isn’t joining us. He’s in talks with PSG, as are Napoli. If we sell Diaz or Nunez there won’t be a replacement this window. Same if Chiesa goes back to Italy. Any money coming in is balancing the books and not being used. It’ll be freebies and cheap transfers if at all we’d anything next summer.
12.) 10 Jan 2025 15:55:54
I don't mind if Diaz goes either. He's a good player but I wouldn't call him much more than that and I've been fed up for a long time about hearing him wanting out to a Spanish club. He's let his dad rule the roost for far too long but part of him must also want out otherwise he'd of put it to bed last year so yeah, for me he can go.
13.) 10 Jan 2025 16:02:06
Diaz really frustrates out of me. He flatters to deceive, his running at defenders is terrifying and his effort when he is on his game is staggering but how many times does he deliver a killer final ball? And how predictable is he with cut inside and if he cannot shoot from the edge of the box, he lays off a 5 yard pass sideways or backwards. Somehow he gets a pass from criticism.
Plus his representatives are constantly flirting with Barca. That is a definitely no-no for me and yet he gets nowhere near the flack Trent is getting at the moment.
14.) 10 Jan 2025 16:32:31
I just want to make it clear I think Gakpo is a good player no doubt. I do get tired of him constantly cutting inside and blazing the football out of the stadium 5 times in each game. He is also majorly predictable and not a great dribbler when trying to beat his man.
15.) 10 Jan 2025 17:04:38
Come on, all wingers do that, and gakpo has scored some crackers doing that this year, clearly he has been given the license to do so by slot. He also isn’t the dribbling in tight spaces type, he has other qualities that have been utilised to great effect.
And is there any way I can hide viktor’s posts? I’m sure when we signed Mac allister and szoboszlai he was saying the exact same thing.
16.) 10 Jan 2025 21:12:26
So in quick summary, virtually all our forward players are crap and need replacing. Meanwhle back here on Planet Earth we're top of the league and Europe. Still.
Slot's a genius carrying all this deadweight.
17.) 11 Jan 2025 01:10:42
Not a patch on Maradona.
I actually think this lad is overrated.
He’s OK but he’s not that great. I don’t think he improves us that much.
We need a striker, not another dribbler.
07 Jan 2025 13:40:54
See the report from elon musk father that he does want to buy the club. Stating family ties to the city.
1.) 07 Jan 2025 13:54:00
His dad being told by Talkrubbish that talking about LFC generates clicks.
2.) 07 Jan 2025 14:04:52
If he put in a lot of money for transfers people would soon forget how much of a strange and sometimes offensive person he is. He would not be a good owner in my opinion though. He makes frequent rash and risky financial decisions which have seen him come very close to bankruptcy in the past. I'm also not entirely sure that his personality is in line with the ethics and morals that Liverpool FC try to uphold as an institution.
Much as the modern day dopamine addict might not like FSG and their love of stability, they've ultimately ran our club superbly. We went from a mid-table team haemorrhaging debt whilst failing to improve the infrastructure and winning very little, to a top 4 team with zero financial concerns that's got state of the art facilities and has won every major trophy at club level in the past 5 seasons. They've also overseen arguably the smoothest transition of a departing legendary manager in the Premier League era.
Musk is not needed, and nor should he be wanted.
3.) 07 Jan 2025 14:27:13
Well put mk.
4.) 07 Jan 2025 15:40:54
Not sure you can question him financially. Even if one business went bankrupt he would still make a massive fortune from other ventures. He is a business genius and in 5 years he will be worth twice as much.
5.) 07 Jan 2025 15:41:43
Can't wait for an X poll:
Should we sanction £_______ a week for __________? ?
Big fan of Musk in many ways but for the love of god, please stay away from Liverpool FC.
6.) 07 Jan 2025 14:46:47
MK's nailed it.
Even if you don't care about his politics (I believe his latest one is running a poll asking if the US should 'liberate the people of Britain from their tyrannical government'. I'm sure that's just fine though cos something something Jess Phillips bad. Or it's just a joke bro. lol) he's too unpredictable to own a football club. No amount of money makes it a good idea. Maybe 10 years ago before he completely disappeared up his own backside, it might have been viable. But now? Nah. Believes his own hype too much.
7.) 07 Jan 2025 14:46:49
And increased our capacity to over 60k, MK.
8.) 07 Jan 2025 15:13:45
Yet people will still scream they want FSG gone for reasons that don't even make sense. We really need to make an Ed002 sticker for the site which says "This is why we do not talk about finances"
9.) 07 Jan 2025 15:22:36
Okay, just to clarify: You have no problem with Saudi owners or other states in the Middle East that oppress women, fail to uphold human rights, or freedom of speech, but when it comes to Musk, everything is turned upside down because he occasionally writes mean things. The lestist represent the worst of visible opinions, and if you don't see the double standards, take a step back and reflect.
10.) 07 Jan 2025 15:26:57
We're a well run club, now, eh?
What about the shambolic transfer committee and lack of shiny new toys, Salah?
11.) 07 Jan 2025 15:33:06
Isn't Elon Musks mother or grandma a Scouser . People complaining about who might buy us . tell me a billionaire who hasn't got a bit of an iffy background.
12.) 07 Jan 2025 15:52:34
Like buying Twitter and changing its name. That didn't work out. It's worth 80-90% less than when he took over. Plus other mistakes. That said, he is still worth £275 billion. Personally, hate him and his behaviour, politics, weirdness and would seriously question my loyalties to LFC if he owned us. Hi shaping of Global politics is not going to end well, so at least footie would be the least of my worries.
13.) 07 Jan 2025 15:55:53
Spot on, MKS. Elon Musk? And we thought the Saudis and Qataris were bad.
14.) 07 Jan 2025 15:57:57
C0ffan who's "you"? I think quite a few people on here have been consistent about disliking state run clubs, you'll find. Possibly because it's other clubs having loadsamoney rather than moral reasons, but nonetheless.
Feel free to dig out my views on Jordan Henderson after he went to Saudi Arabia if you like. I'm sure it's searchable on here.
15.) 07 Jan 2025 16:01:01
It’s never going to happen. Don’t even need to debate it.
16.) 07 Jan 2025 16:02:11
I couldn’t imagine FSG selling to Musk for billions of pounds more than what they paid for.
Main reason being quite a few posters said they would no longer support the club so I don’t think John Henry’s conscience could take it ?.
17.) 07 Jan 2025 16:20:50
I wouldn't fancy looking too much into Musk's family line, you only need to look at his dad and step daughters relationship!
18.) 07 Jan 2025 16:22:02
'And we thought the Saudis and Qataris were bad. '
I think some people have lost perspective. I'm no fan of Musk but, as far as I know, he hasn't ordered the execution of political opponents, ordered women to be stoned to death in public, handed out 10 year prison sentence along with 50 lashes a week for setting up a political debate website and so on and so on.
19.) 07 Jan 2025 16:22:44
JK ? I couldn't believe some of the reactions the other day saying they'd stop supporting us lol. Personally I don't get that. I obviously understand the Elon hate but to stop supporting Liverpool? Impossible for me even if I wanted to I couldn't.
20.) 07 Jan 2025 16:27:42
Old Man Musky reckons they knew a few of The Beatles, how can we say no? Remind me again how many were in The Fab Four ?
If Errol or Elon show us their collection of Cilla Black albums and can do a good Stan Boardman impression I reckon it's a done deal.
It's must be quiet time for real news.
21.) 07 Jan 2025 16:56:29
I'd expect spirit of Shankly and any other supporters group to push against this. I've seen many fans saying they would turn their back on the club if this happened.
He's like a child in toys r us with his parents credit card, thinks he can just buy what ever he likes.
People who think him saying "mean things" is his main problem may want to look into his deplorable history.
He should never be allowed anywhere near the club, regardless of if his grandma is a scouser or not. Disgusting human being and I hope they march to prevent any attempt at buying the club. If it actually happens that is.
22.) 07 Jan 2025 17:02:25
Well said Adam. Brilliant Rigsby?.
23.) 07 Jan 2025 17:11:17
To be honest I would take Saudi owners any day of the week over Musk.
24.) 07 Jan 2025 17:21:48
I’d take musk over the Saudis.
25.) 07 Jan 2025 17:24:26
Newcastle have the richest ( Saudi ) owners in world yet can’t just buy, in fact, they will be restricted until June 30th.
As the great ed002 often said, football finances and the football fan don’t mix….
26.) 07 Jan 2025 17:43:17
Certainly not in your case Drogie! Only joking ?.
27.) 07 Jan 2025 17:44:04
Made me chuckle, Rigsby.
28.) 07 Jan 2025 18:01:53
What if we could get the Saudi's and Musk to buy us, then everyone can have a meltdown but we'd be loaded.
29.) 07 Jan 2025 18:07:01
Apparently Musk's Nan is from Mossley Hill, so Rigsby may get his wish about that stack of Cilla records! ?.
30.) 07 Jan 2025 18:08:40
David Morres was a nice man, but the club was known for dodgy manager and player signings, plus getting fleeced over sales for much of his time.
Who is an ideal ownership? The only way, long term, going forward would be to follow the German Model.
31.) 07 Jan 2025 18:20:10
We could always ask Mother Theresa if she fancies buying us.
{Ed001's Note - she was not a nice person either. You might want to look up what she did to those under her 'care'.}
32.) 07 Jan 2025 18:36:30
Anyone who thinks Musk is more dangerous than the Saudis I have a challenge for you.
Go to the biggest Republican state in the USA with a sign abusing Musk to the hilt for 8hrs, you will walk away untouched because police will be called to protect your freedom of speech. Then go to anywhere in Saudi and do the same thing about the Saudi royal family for 15 mins, you will not walk away. Please think before commenting with ridiculous comparisons.
Why not do it in both places with a rainbow flag in your other hand.
33.) 07 Jan 2025 18:45:23
I own a car. Someone might want to buy the car. If we reach an agreement Ion price then as long as I’m happy and the person buying the car is happy what do we care what anybody else thinks. it’s a business transaction.
Say the car was Liverpool FC, I am FSG and Musk wants the car. By and large the same rule that nobody else’s opinion matters. Of course, there are watchdogs to ensure that there is nothing underhand afoot (see what I did there) but I’d be a bit surprised if the FA didn’t find Musk suitable.
That said, from my perspective, I would really love the owners of the club to be genuine fans of the club and of the game. ideally I’d like them to be driven by a desire to see the team be the best football team in the world playing the best football anyone has ever seen (and I think that is true if the vast majority of people who contribute to this forum) but I think we all know (and regret) that this particular ship has sailed. For owners these days it is about P and L, no matter how much they may protest or obfuscate.
Again, from my perspective, it’s fair to say that I am not unhappy with what FSG has done for the club - saved us from almost certain administration, modernisation of the ground, creation of the new training centre, all of which are too our benefit in a long term strategic sense and the employment of Klopp and Slot which have been very beneficial in a short term tactical sense. That said I’m not quite ‘happy’ with FSG as my opinion is that they would be willing to sell in a heartbeat if they received an offer they thought was good enough. In summary, they are probably amongst the best of an increasingly unpleasant (for want of a better word) choices) .
For me the discussions about the flavour of vile creatures who could take over, ranging from vile, hateful human rights abusers to megalomaniac head cases is pointless. Obviously none of us in our right minds would support these humans as somebody to run our club but as fans / spectators we have, in real terms, sadly no effective way that I can see of effecting any business decision. Besides, I’m an everyday, normal sort of hypocrite and if an owner did take over and enable the best football team ever to play the best football ever seen at Liverpool FC, I’d probably stream the matches to watch and not give the ownership a thought, at least whilst the match was on.
I’d say that whilst I’m a Liverpool fan I suspect there are a lot of fans at a lot of clubs who might be in the same boat as me.
34.) 07 Jan 2025 18:49:02
Funny reading some of the things on here concerning Elon . I won't support Liverpool if he takes over is the funniest though. n not far behind is I'd rather have the Saudis or Qatar money.
35.) 07 Jan 2025 18:52:07
Hi Ed001, I am with you on this. Finally someone told truth about her.
36.) 07 Jan 2025 19:03:16
The comparison between Musk and any Middle East petro state ownership is ridiculous. Musk, for all his faults, hasn’t decapitated anyone or mutilated anyone, or executed a journalist and disposed of the body in acid at an embassy. All things that Mohammed Bin Salman has done, btw, and that’s not even mentioning the human rights abuses of workers. As for John W Henry, the man is a vulture capitalist who, like other vulture capitalists. Made his fortune shafting companies for as much money as possible before walking away with a nice tidy profit, lots of redundancies and hollowed out companies. Is that in tune with the so called values of the club? As some of the comments on the thread come across as a bit sanctimonious. Or are those values interchangeable depending on who the person is, to paraphrase Groucho Marx, you don’t like these values? I have others.
37.) 07 Jan 2025 19:07:28
I think that people don’t really understand how much Musk and the oil states have in common. Both don’t like democracy, are homophobic, misogynistic, racist and wouldn’t hesitate to kill someone if it suits them. They are also both rich beyond comprehension. Neither would suit me as owners and either would stop me from supporting the club, since those are not values that I can relate to and yes my values are more important than my support of the club. I don’t mind if people have other opinions on this, this is my choice and my choice only and contrary to Musk and oil states I don’t mind people having other opinions than myself. Everyone is allowed to be wrong.
38.) 07 Jan 2025 19:11:13
Heidi Klum or Claudia Schiffer, Vango?
This Musk thing is a non-story and he's not worthy of the attention, for me.
39.) 07 Jan 2025 19:29:34
Are either of them left footed Rigsby, we could do with a solid option to rotate with Robbo.
40.) 07 Jan 2025 19:30:37
Slightly disappointed that there are some apologists for Musk here. Just because other clubs have dubious owners, it doesn’t make the idea of him ok.
I am loathe to take a moral judgement on anyone, but I find his support for the German far right along with Tommy Robinson here deeply troubling - he is showing delusions of grandeur as a potential world leader.
If you combine that with his mood swings as expressed in deranged tweets (the ones that devalued Twitter, along with the appalling accusations made against one of the divers who saved the Thai football team) - he is clearly troubled, and on a very dangerous path.
Plus he is clearly thin skinned and vindictive. What would he do if the fans turned on him? Plus - I don’t entirely understand the FFP rules, but from looking at Newcastle it seems clear that having a sugar daddy has no impact now upon a club’s spending power (amen to that) .
In terms of his business acumen: he’s a superb self-publicist and ruthless. But since PayPal (which I think he got kicked out of? ), I don’t see a single company that has improved once he has become involved. Twitter has been destroyed - financially, and editorially.
So, from an entirely practical perspective I think he has nothing positive to offer, and would drive many life-long obsessives like me to step away from supporting the club.
41.) 07 Jan 2025 19:31:18
Ed001 ised to drive me mad my kids school had a house named after mother Theresa.
{Ed001's Note - my primary school did as well.}
42.) 07 Jan 2025 19:52:36
I like him ( musk) I don’t believe he will buy us, imagine if he did and we was the first club to have our own satellite in space or flying a rocket over the world with a YNWA banner. Streaming all our games for pennies instead of being bled dry.
43.) 07 Jan 2025 20:03:28
Ed001, are you really saying that someone who got proclaimed to be a saint be the catholic church wasn’t a saint, surely years of covered up child abuse would prove you wrong.
{Ed001's Note - hard to believe the cafflick Church would ever get involved in something like that. Apart from helping Nazis escape justice at the end of the war and attempts at ethnic cleansing of Native Americans in the USA and Canada, when have they ever done anything wrong? Well, other than covering up child abuse. But apart from that?}
44.) 07 Jan 2025 20:09:47
I am sorry nobody runs a business as well as elon does and as efficiently as elon does.
The person might be downright offensive and rash as they come but he runs all his businesses enviably well.
For half the world against him he doubled is net worth from 170b to 350b in two years.
Even his ardent haters accept that. He is business and innovation personified and they dream at running on his levels.
Hate the guy or don't like him but that guy achieves the pinnacle of everything he has got into.
Turned X into mordern civil warfare battlefield.
Has half the europe rubbishting their pants.
45.) 07 Jan 2025 20:16:56
Ed001, I could add genocide in Brazil to that, but surely there’s no need for nitpicking.
{Ed001's Note - the way they milk the poorest people in places like the Philippines is sickening as well, but like you I didn't want to nitpick.}
46.) 07 Jan 2025 20:25:54
@akira, all while receiving a ridiculous amount of subsidies by the state, which he is now part of, I bet I, a simple woodworker, could do it.
47.) 07 Jan 2025 20:58:09
What happened to the banter page?
The Catholic Church, genocide, ethnic cleansing, Adolf Hitler, Fred West etc?
Blimey ?.
48.) 07 Jan 2025 21:05:19
Outside sources trying to distract the best club in Europe currently. It's disgusting.
49.) 07 Jan 2025 21:43:07
Ed01, don't forget colonisation in the Southern hemisphere esp. in Africa.
50.) 07 Jan 2025 22:34:07
Musk is currently funding a genocide and people are saying that he isn't as bad as Middle East countries. Well, I'd argue that he's worse than them.
51.) 07 Jan 2025 23:10:21
Are you talking about The British Empire, Oli? Or Belgian colonisation?
52.) 08 Jan 2025 00:04:54
That wa**er Musk is a crypto nazi.
The grandfathers of all you techbro wannabes are rolling in their graves.
53.) 08 Jan 2025 00:10:50
Musk has disowned his father.
His father is a drugged up lunatic who fathered a child with his step-daughter and honestly believes “Tommy Robinson will be the next UK PM”.
Ignore him, he’s as reliable as John McAfee was.
A drugged up hippie who forgot to grow up.
54.) 08 Jan 2025 01:24:30
Speaking as somebody who went to the ‘Eddies’ and was educated by the Christian Brothers, for those of you familiar with West Derby you’d be familiar with the purple blazers, there is not a single thing to recommend the Catholic Church. In the good old days the only language used in the written word was Latin, and the only people who understood the language were the Catholics. They had a monopoly on ‘knowledge’ as they were the only ones with access to what God said. A nice little earner if you could get a job.
Look up William Tyndale, if you don’t already know his story.
55.) 08 Jan 2025 02:44:24
Ed 1, we are getting into sticky territory once religion comes up. I think I support Liverpool because as an Irish Catholic in the UK, it’s a club that seemed like a natural home - which is weird as I think, back in the day, Everton was the Catholic club?
For what it’s worth, I still think LFC is the club of choice for non-conformist religions? And no matter what your religion, how about this from a German nun I met during the Bosnian conflict: never condemn the sinner, just the sin.
56.) 08 Jan 2025 07:34:51
We're already well into sticky territory, Monstersouness.
57.) 08 Jan 2025 07:41:04
Musk's father is a wife beating psychopath don't trust anything he says.
04 Jan 2025 14:03:04
Anyone know how Bajcetic has done in his loan?
1.) 04 Jan 2025 15:56:55
It has been a very average loan so far, under Pep he was in and out of the team and never cemented a starting place. He was fined for being late to training. Pep has since been fired and there's a winter break over there now so we'll see how the 2nd half of the season goes for him.
2.) 04 Jan 2025 16:17:00
Sounds like he might be cutting the loan short.
3.) 04 Jan 2025 16:34:39
He's not going to make it at Liverpool, guaranteed. The lack of self discipline shines through often. He was late to training with us, how many times? And then again with these. The lads a fool.
4.) 04 Jan 2025 17:39:17
He was our best player during that awful season.
He has time, and if not, part Ex for Zubi.
5.) 04 Jan 2025 17:42:48
Looks like he could be moving to betis on loan.
6.) 04 Jan 2025 17:45:52
Salah I remember Ed001 saying that he was late for training and that in it's self is a very bad sign. Yes a foolish young man.
7.) 04 Jan 2025 18:06:35
Crazy how Bajetic was our best player over a season where he started 6 league games and 1 CL game.
Yes the lad impressed over the 2 month period the majority of those starts came but I can’t remember him picking up any player of the season awards that year.
8.) 04 Jan 2025 18:36:53
Vango, Zubimendi is not joining us. Let him be with his mountain frotteurism.
9.) 04 Jan 2025 18:58:00
Not good, and he won’t be making it with us. Pity we can’t get him to a team that we want to buy from but at least he’s off the wage bill.
10.) 04 Jan 2025 19:03:20
It's good business moving the Bajjer on then, isn't it?
Credit to those involved ?.
11.) 04 Jan 2025 19:32:55
On a side note well done brighton can't wait until I hear the drivel coming out of artetas mouth. Also a thought it came out at the start of the season mobbing was to be punished by a yellow card only the captain would speak to the referee but yet still goes un punished?
12.) 04 Jan 2025 19:58:13
Hunter64 agree boils my pi** that teams get away with it time and again.
13.) 04 Jan 2025 20:06:49
Bajetics agent/ family need to have a word get him to pull his socks up and apply himself. Maybe getting moved from team to team with no takers may open his eyes. He is probably as close to obscurity as he is stardom.
14 Jan 2025 07:46:15
I would not let him go anyway think he is a great squad player who is happy at the club. Feel he deserves more minutes than he has got this season though.
13 Jan 2025 21:06:25
Yeah I keep seeing things about wanting him for club World Cup.
13 Jan 2025 20:23:39
Ed001 you know if the Saudi rumours on Nunez are true. I do feel he will turn out to be a very good striker but I don’t think a club like ours suits him the in and out of the team think it’s hard for any striker. So wanted it to work out with him love his work rate and it the days of 442 with an Owen or fowler people’s views would have been different on him. Don’t think he has started to many games for us this season and him and jota’s goals are not that different and they have started about the same amount of games.
{Ed001's Note - all I know is that Slot would like to replace him and Sauds are interested.}
13 Jan 2025 09:28:51
Ed001 The biggest problem with Nunez is he seems to be getting worse with his scoring record. I still think he could turn out to be a class forward when he scores a few goals you hope it’s the start of him turning the corner but he just doesn’t and maybe it is coming to a point where maybe he might need to move on and am sure if he does he will turn into a very good striker but sometimes things just don’t work out and maybe he needs to play week in week out somewhere. He is very frustrating at times but he always puts a shift in and we normally appreciate that here but he seems to get more stick than most players but we always have to have one player here is seems may it be him Gomez Mac Jota or Jones where do have a group that seem to jump from one to another. Maybe it’s because recently we have been spoiled.
12 Jan 2025 21:37:01
Monster Salah had a bad end to last season because of his hamstring injury and the season before he played in a team with a midfield with no legs. Yet he still scored goals and you are assuming he is going to drop of a cliff this season. Salah is one of the very best professional footballers to play the game ever the way he looks after his self there is no telling how long he will stay at this level. Normally players let them selfs go over the summer then at a certain age when they come back there legs have just gone but Salah keeps his self super fit all year round.
All I can say about Salah is show him the money he wants to break records and he will if we keep him.
11 Jan 2025 22:26:43
Davey he is an upgrade on Diaz and younger so if we could bring him in and sell Diaz in the summer because after this summer his value will only decrease. And with only two years on his contract I think is a prime time to do this.
11 Jan 2025 13:04:44
Yeah I don’t get why we gone to a 424.
11 Jan 2025 12:43:54
At the moment I think Trey is nowhere near Elliott’s level and I have no idea how he has not played more. Slot needs to use more players otherwise we are going to burn out bad by the end of the season.
11 Jan 2025 12:40:51
I thought he looked ok in that last cup game he started. I would rather him have started today ahead of Nunez.
10 Jan 2025 12:57:30
Yeah me too I can remember talking to you about him before we played them that year and saying he frightened out of me as to what he was going to do to us and he never proved my nerves wrong. I see a lot of people saying we don’t need another left attacker but I don’t think anyone thought we needed another keeper in the summer. I also think he is massive upgrade on our left attackers and would be like a trine Mane replacement for quality.