27 Jun 2026 14:58:15
Does anyone know the truth behind Trent being overlooked by Tuchel as once Livramento got injured Trent was the obvious choice to come in & now James is out we are short of options apart from Spence… My view is it’s not football related but more that Tuchel just doesn’t like him?
27 Jun 2026 15:25:13
Who??
27 Jun 2026 15:45:59
Tuchel doesn't rate his defensive work, I would say, would be the answer without knowing. He seems to prefer full backs who can defend.
27 Jun 2026 15:26:20
ED01 posted the reason a couple of weeks ago.. going by that there's no way Trent is playing for England whilst TT is in charge.
27 Jun 2026 15:53:05
Isn't it a personal issue due to Tuchel dating Trent's ex or something?
27 Jun 2026 16:07:51
Tuchel doesn't like him because Iris Law said Trent's got a bigger one than him.
27 Jun 2026 16:12:00
Trent ended up with Iris's sister, Coles...
27 Jun 2026 16:13:25
I'm made up he isn't with England, only our fans think he is a good defender, he can pass a good ball but used to get regularly roasted or leaves tons of space behind him, in other words a defensive liability. Fair play to Tuchel for not being blinded by this.
27 Jun 2026 16:37:50
Jurgan Klopp, a much more respected manager than Tuchel or Southgate, had him down as his starting right back for years.
27 Jun 2026 16:47:58
Strom, I don't Trent personally, but this throw away comment he's decent at passing the ball is laughable. He's world class at doing that, broke records doing it, and should be picked. As for his defending, he's had many lapses where he's been beat, but Klopp played him there for years, and he was good.
TT is a seasoned manager but I imagine he's a manager who does things for effect and statements.
27 Jun 2026 16:34:58
Strimsgotset
I'm so glad you apparently know more than one of the best managers of this generation (Klopp) and have decided trent isn't good enough even though Klopp had years to replace trent and never did.
You stick to your armchair nonsense and let the actual intelligent coaches make decisions eh.
Oh and if you don't like how I've spoken about you then suck it up it's how you spoke about trent!
27 Jun 2026 16:49:21
Clearly Tuchel doesn't rate his defence, which we all know is absolutely rubbish, the chap has no idea how to track his man and has a serious aversion to looking over his shoulder. The truth is that Trent's a very good footballer, but he's an awful RB. Hence why he fell out of favour with the Madrid fans. He also missed half the season due to injury, so he's unreliable; in the last 2 years he's missed 170 days and 33 games due to injury.
Tuchel doesn't want an injury-prone defender who can't defend, and rightly so.
The story of Trent's ex dating Tuchel is absolute nonsense, which was started as a joke on Twitter. Somehow it gained ground despite the fact that the 'photographic evidence' was clearly photoshopped to give Tuchel's actual girlfriend a similar haircut to Iris Law (Trent's ex).
27 Jun 2026 16:56:12
No Liverpool fans think Trent is a good defender, but they recognize the attacking ability outweighs the defensive deficiencies.
27 Jun 2026 17:51:20
From a reckless rumour to it being repeated as if it's true.
Tuchel is not dating Trent's "ex".
27 Jun 2026 18:25:16
Trent's unreliable, chewy? But James isn't?
27 Jun 2026 18:33:15
James is a better defender than Trent, when fit.
27 Jun 2026 18:37:31
Having Trent only works in a team where you can protect his limitations, like we did for years, having Hendon, Milly, Fabs and Szob in front of him and covering for him. Take that away, and there's no way his qualities outweigh the defensive frailties. England don't play that way, so he's not going to get picked until he actually gets good at defending.
27 Jun 2026 18:41:53
James is injured as much as Jack Wiltshire.
27 Jun 2026 18:43:23
Trent offers so much in certain games for England, the same can be said for Palmer. A mistake not to take both of them unless they're bad eggs behind the scenes. ?♂️
27 Jun 2026 19:00:00
Fatwallet, when did I say James' fitness was reliable? James is a better defender. So he's at least got that going for him. Trent is both unreliable and a poor defender; James is the obvious choice if your concerns weigh on the defensive side. Trent was out injured for almost twice the amount of time as James this season.
Absolutely spot on, Westwood666, that's exactly why it's not working out in Madrid.
Klopp tailored our system specifically to play to Trent's strengths, but what people often fail to realise was that it was also to hide his weaknesses. He's an excellent player, if you know how to use him. If you just throw him into a system and expect him to perform as a bog-standard RB you will end up disappointed.
27 Jun 2026 19:15:18
I have seen Reece James make loads of mistakes, but the commentators never highlight them. He made one that cost a goal against Croatia. If Trent had made that mistake, it would have been the main topic of discussion. I watched one England game last season, and James's first 3 crosses all hit the first man. As for those who say Trent left big spaces in behind, he was told by Klopp to get forward.
How do you think he got around 60 assists? If he goes forward as asked and the move breaks down, how can he be expected to get back straight away? Klopp knew the benefits outweighed the negatives. Liverpool's creativity and beating the press was nonexistent last season because Trent wasn't there. Tuchel will regret not taking Trent when they are struggling in the knockouts. It is definitely personal.
27 Jun 2026 17:00:12
Chewy, you do talk some nonsense at times! Tuchel doesn't want injury prone defenders but he took Reece James?! Give your head a wobble la
27 Jun 2026 19:03:22
Frode, I never rated him, for me being a defender you had to be a good at defending which he wasn't, no denying he could pass a ball but he was a liability at the back maybe he could have played higher up the pitch, when Madrid beat us we all knew Vini Jr would score against him n he proved me right, switched off n let him in to score
Paul H what a lemon you are, getting upset because I called trent out hahah.as for the armchair comment, I go the games n have for 40 years, home n abroad, In other words a proper fan not like you in your armchair or on a website spouting nonsense
27 Jun 2026 19:42:40
Flange, my main point, clearly, was that Trent is a poor defender. The fact that he's injury-prone is secondary. Trent spent twice as much time out injured as James did this season, so, atm, he's more injury-prone and a worse defender. Wibble wobble.
27 Jun 2026 20:27:57
Chewy, my point remains, you are chatting rubbish.
27 Jun 2026 20:36:18
I don't think Tuchel has thought much about injury-prone players at all. Stones, James and Livramento aren't the most reliable players. Trent even played in more league games this season than Livramento.
For all the things that Trent does well, if teams not set up to support him, he's a liability.
27 Jun 2026 20:38:33
My personal view is that Arnold Rat is a below way below average right back with a way above average right foot.
27 Jun 2026 20:38:39
Trent got roasted once early on in his career by Rashford, and the myth was born that he was a poor defender. From tbmhen on forward, every lapse or error was highlighted to death by the southern media who wanted their Chelsea darling in the team. Trent has his defensive lapses like everyone else, but he is not as bad at defending as most make out, including by some of his own supporters on here, mainly because they have Michael Owen syndrome and are too childish to accept someone might want to leave 'their' club for a rival.
Trent was part of a defence that conceded less goals than any other team in one season, and were always close to conceding less than others in most seasons he was there. Not bad when he was also his team's most creative player. PS/ Anyone who thinks Bradley is a better defender doesn't understand football.
27 Jun 2026 20:29:43
.tell ed1 that chewy..he told us all the other day it was why he's not picking him. Said "banging he's ex bird" or something like that!?!?! Think he was trolling hahaha! Na not ed1 hahaha?
27 Jun 2026 20:53:32
Sanctimonious self righteous rubbish Kemlyn. Arnold was consistently poor as a defender, there are countless examples of his brain farts and mistakes costing goals, the European Cup final against Madrid, the game against United in the season we won the 20th title when he casually passed the ball to a United player and jogged around ball watching rather than trying to win it back or closing space which led to a goal, I could go on.
He's a poor defender with an exceptional right foot who stuck two fingers up at this club and supporters. To me he's a no mark and nothing more than a footnote in the clubs history.
27 Jun 2026 21:26:04
Vv, did that comment rattle you a bit? Haha.
I agree with you though.
27 Jun 2026 22:50:49
There's a lot of bitterness about Trent. If he'd rejected Madrid and signed for us again, all this negativity would be pretty much gone.
He's a wingback rather than a defender, and I think it's a bit unfair to label him so. Roberto Carlos was a similar kind of wingback, zero defensive ability, but his attacking output was the reason he played for Brazil and Madrid, yet he got skinned left, right and centre by some of the worst attackers of his era. Nobody cared.
Klopp played Trent as a wingback who moved up to the wing.
What Klopp wanted from that position, he got in abundance from Trent. Klopp was an attacking coach.
Tuchel is the German Southgate. Defence first, that's why he's left most of the flair players home. He knows England have mid table mentality, and need to be the underdog to put in a performance, so he's picked players who reflect his Rafa style, defence first mentality.
Is it successful? Sure. But it's awful to watch.
27 Jun 2026 22:38:30
Kemlyn, so your saying Trent only got roasted once? , every week every winger skipped past him, only that we had Alisson n VVD in their prime that they cut out most of the crosses or shots, otherwise it would have been plenty of goals conceded, all the teams targeted our right side.
Delusional to say he was a good defender, as for if we think Bradley is a better defender than him, its obvious that he is, the crowd were glad when he was getting games, remember Trent walking after the United players just waltzed past him. red tinted glasses you wear or Stevie Wonder ones
27 Jun 2026 23:05:46
ViktorVaughan, you quoted two incidents in a 9-year career. Klopp and Slot both know more about football than you, and they both picked him as first choice. Trent leaving was the biggest factor in the drop off last season, especially the service to Salah.
As I said, you are just one of those with a mentality who conveniently forget what players did for the club because they have the temerity to leave the club you support. You are so bitter, you should be watching your football at the Hill Dickinson.
28 Jun 2026 00:21:40
Strongodset, didn't we beat you 11-0 once? Conor Bradley is not a good defender, and if he was playing every week, he would be found out good style. His awareness and positional sense is poor. That's why you see him throwing himself into last minute tackles. Because of that, he is a yellow card waiting to happen every game, not to mention why he picks up so many injuries.
He made one great tackle on Mbappe and that's all everyone can remember. But if it had been even slightly mistimed, it would have been a red. The right back position has been a disaster since Trent left. Bradley, Frimpong, Jones, Szobozlai, Gomez, Endo have all played there without much success. I'd have Trent back tomorrow and I'd fancy us for the title.
28 Jun 2026 01:18:39
Kemlyn, do you think I support Stromsgotset or from there? Hahaha. By the way, tackling is what defenders do, not stroll round like the he already won 5 Balon Do'rs. Bradley has been very unlucky with injuries, we all know Trent couldn't defend to save his life. You must have went to the toilet or gone for a sausage roll when he was regularly getting roasted.
28 Jun 2026 04:05:02
Flange, everything I said was factual information; you're just rubbishing opinions without a shred of evidence because you haven't got any. You can't argue with facts. You need to make a point first in order for it to stand mate. But go on, give it a shot, I'll wait, I'll even give you a hand if you're struggling.
KemlynRoad, if Trent was so crucial to Salahs success how come he only ever assisted Mo 13 times in his whole career? And I'd argue Vik knows more about football than Slot. ?
28 Jun 2026 04:07:23
Rsanchez69, you must be trolling, mate. Ed001 didn't know about the source of the rumour, as he explained himself.
28 Jun 2026 13:25:42
Chewy, you are on your high horse as usual, saying what you are saying is fact, when it's just an opinion really and usually a poor one! You constantly try to put your views across as facts, and don't seem capable of a debate. Have a go at being a little more accepting of others' views, it's what adults do, mate!
28 Jun 2026 16:19:02
Flange, I presented information that's backed up by facts. I even gave stats. You're the one who rubbished my argument without making a single point, and you've done the same here again. Trent is a poor defender; that's a fact. It's been a major talking point throughout his career; he's been criticised for it by countless fans, pundits and ex-pros. It's not even up for debate. Trent missed half the season due to injury and almost twice the number of games James did, for which I gave factual numbers you can look up yourself.
Trent has a bit of an attitude problem, ok, you could argue that one's somewhat speculative, but we've seen enough to reasonably assume it's true. Again, fans and pundits have criticised him over the years with former pros even labelling him lazy, careless, indifferent, etc. Even Slot openly criticised Trent's work rate, focus and concentration on the training ground.
28 Jun 2026 17:29:15
Per game performance this season, Trent in La Liga vs James in PL:
TAA: 0.7 tackles, 0.7 interceptions, 0.1 blocks, 0.5 clearances.
James: 1.7 tackles, 1.1 interceptions, 0.2 blocks, 1.4 clearances.
And, as I said before, Trent missed 22 games due to injury whilst James missed 12.