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19 Apr 2024 09:15:25
My humble opinion is when Klopp announced his departure we were still in 4 competitions. But realistically with our squad at that time you would expect us to be still in those competitions. I think we have been carried away with the potential of a fairy tale ending to a glorious period for our club, unfortunately fairy tales are just that. That said at the beginning of the season with the summer squad turnover, if you had said come April we would still have an albeit stuttering chance to win the league, would be pretty much looking at a return to the champions league next season and would win a cup, whilst considerably reducing the average age of the squad and seeing the emergence of some real quality prospects emerging from the academy we would of not of been that disappointed. So whilst a fairy tale ending to a memorable chapter is fading fast, the chapter was special and that's set in stone. so having a pretty fully fit squad and 6 games left, let's get back to the reality of trying to win a football match at a time 6 times and see where we end up. and then a new chapter begins and we are in pretty good shape to start it. ynwa Klopp is leaving but so did Shankly, Paisley and Dalglish before.
1.) 19 Apr 2024 09:34:20
He shouldn't have been allowed to record a 10 minute video of his departure. doubt any manager would be allowed to do it today. the club failed there. Amirom would move in the summer but the man has put an end to all speculations and want everyone to cherish and focus on the remainder of the season.
2.) 19 Apr 2024 09:52:13
Usually I'd be in full agreement mate and good post by the way - one I wish I could be onboard with but the way I see it at the moment is you can't sugarcoat sh*t mate. The way we're playing is utterly shocking, we're embarrassing ourselves at this point and it's really getting on my nerves. They clearly aren't thinking about the fans who attend the matches, paying good money (I'm not one of them) . Klopp I love to death but for gods sake man, sort this sh*t show out. It's almost like he's given up, knowing he's off. No matter what he'll always be a legend in my eyes but this last period of his is doing him no favours. We all wish it was a fairytale ending but it's turning out to be a nightmare.
3.) 19 Apr 2024 10:32:07
But the point is, I think, winning the league wasn't a fairy tale ending; it was very much a realistic ending. We were top of the league with eight matches to go. Could have gone top again with six matches to go if we'd been capable of beating Palace (who hadn't won in almost two months) at home. No fairy tale needed; just some half-decent football would have done it.
For similar reasons, I can't take consolation from the "if we'd been offered this at the start of the season" point of view. It may well be true; I don't think many expected us to get back into a title challenge so quickly after last year but we did and because of that, and because we were top so late in the season with our destiny in our own hands, the expectation has to be redrawn.
Regardless of what we might have been willing to accept at the start of the season, when we got to April top of the league, my expectation was that we would go on to win the league from there.
If we don't pull this out of the fire in the last six matches, it will, for me, be a huge disappointment and an undeniable damp squib ending to Klopp's time at Liverpool.
The way that there is almost always one team that falls apart in a title race fascinates me. The lazy conclusion is to put it down to tiredness or say the players are exhausted. I've never bought that. Why would that only effect one team? And it can't be that the players just aren't good enough; they wouldn't have got so far into the season at the top of the league if they weren't. So is it physchological? That seems most likely to me, but again unpicking that is fascinating. Experienced professionals who have played at the very top of the sport and suddenly they are all overtaken by the same malaise, not one of them can break out of it and drag the team forward.
4.) 19 Apr 2024 10:34:35
I don’t think it was a fairytale it was possible to win everything this season. The reason it’s never been done before is because it’s extremely hard and you need a huge amount of luck to go with the talent and hard work.
We did well to stay in all 4 as long as we did with all the bad luck with injuries and some really poor refereeing decisions. Eventually we lost a few games. Not the end of the world and certainly no reason for us to turn on the manager or any of the players. They are human and they are fallible like all of us.
For me the recent form has been down to the players coming back from injury. It happens more often than you think. We’ve had loads of injuries to key players so everyone knuckles down to get through that period then when the players return, psychologically they think it’s job done and take their eye off the ball. It’s not intentional it’s just human nature.
Hopefully we’ve now had our wobble and we can now refocus for the run in, starting on Sunday.
5.) 19 Apr 2024 10:37:49
Only a few weeks ago people were waxing lyrical about the spirit in the group who were fighting for Klopp’s last season. Now the results have changed it’s because of Klopp leaving.
People have a real issue with displacing anger and emotion on here lol.
6.) 19 Apr 2024 11:31:08
RR it’s 100% psychological and it happens in all walks of life every single day.
It’s much easier to chase the dream when it’s in the distance but as it looms large you start to picture it in your mind and you tense up. Then you start to doubt whether you can get there. You start to fear not getting there and that then makes you even more tense and before you know it it’s gone.
The best way to get through it is through experience. Experience gives you perspective as you know you’ve been there before and even though it went wrong the world didn’t cave in and the sun still came up the next day. That then helps you stay calm and see it through.
We have players who haven’t been in this situation before and it only takes 3 or 4 of them to tense up and have a muddled mind and that feeds through the team.
I said earlier I think the players coming back has actually had a negative impact too as other players who have taken on the mantle in recent months like Macca and Endo for example, have now stepped off the pace a little thinking the others will pick up the batten. It’s not a conscious decision it’s just human nature.
One thing I do know for certain is that we as fans have a huge job to do in keeping the players positive. If we moan and whinge and criticise every time they do something wrong they become fearful and tense up even more. They need to know we are behind them regardless as that gives them the best platform to succeed.
7.) 19 Apr 2024 12:42:36
@Faithinworks, exactly. Same old hindsight crap. Im over it.
8.) 19 Apr 2024 13:02:13
There’s only so long you can keep repeating the same mantra to players. After a while the impact of your comments lose effect.
I think Klopp’s reached that moment.
We’re literally treading water as a team now, we need to secure top 4 and then hope for the best.
Either way, a reset with Champions League is what is needed.
9.) 19 Apr 2024 13:29:31
Has the season finished?
10.) 19 Apr 2024 22:52:29
Why is the team treading water? We won last night you know?
11.) 20 Apr 2024 00:05:15
Arsenal and City lost their last match, we won ours. I’m pretty sure that if you score more goals than the opposition it means you won, even if some of the fans don’t like the way it happened. For all those wishing for the season to end, just be careful what you wish for.
12.) 20 Apr 2024 06:24:12
Scouse John - if you think we were winners in Atalanta, look at the players at the end of the game.
Treading water is kind to LFC right now.
We’re certainly NOT improving
We could easily be described as sinking
Treading water is being generous.
13.) 20 Apr 2024 07:23:52
It's down to emotions, WDW.
I remember we won the CL in 2005, everyone was celebrating but I sat down and thought 'yeah, but we're fifth in the League and the second best team in Liverpool' ?.