31 Oct 2025 10:31:53
To paraphrase Slots press conference fitness is the issue rather than the system. Gravenburch might play, Jones and Isak are out.
31 Oct 2025 11:36:11
I think Ed001.allused to this previously.
If fitness is an issue across the squad then it proves the fitness training is lacking.
Is the fitness the reason we are playing thr slow paced easy to figure out football or is it Arnes favoured system.
31 Oct 2025 10:50:41
This season is going to be a rough one
The reasons or excuses don’t match the performances. So looks like qualifying for the top 4 is the actual goal and I believe that to be quite embarrassing after winning the title
Business wise …. Going far backwards to me means someone needs to be sacked.
31 Oct 2025 10:57:09
Yeah this is were he's lost me now. Im in the slot out camp.
31 Oct 2025 11:05:59
I’m tired of all the excuses with Slot. There is always a reason instead of fixing the problems it seems to me like he is doubling down on them.
31 Oct 2025 11:09:52
Well then play a different system until they are.
31 Oct 2025 11:10:03
Well even if it is, it’s the coaching teams responsibility that the team is fit.
31 Oct 2025 11:23:49
Pretty much and it’s what I’ve been saying all along. The team don’t look fit.
I’ve offered reasons why they might not be fit but it’s always just batted back and called an excuse.
At this level a few percent drop off can be the different between a convincing win and a tight defeat and that’s what we are seeing.
31 Oct 2025 12:02:17
Great leaders thrive on the razors edge, rather than whine.
Why is fitness suddenly an issue after a decent pre-season and no international tourney in the summer?
I've heard that high dose caffine has been used for years in football (and other sports) and that it has to be cycled on and off season to season. Apparently City and Liverpool have opposite cycles.
Look it up before shouting BS. It came from Italy, who were the first to use it. Leicester / vardy were open about this.
31 Oct 2025 12:05:52
How can we have an unfit team at this stage of the season?
31 Oct 2025 12:11:15
Yes, one of the excuses you gave was that the players 2-3 weeks pre season which was completely inaccurate when in actual fact it was a matter of days.
31 Oct 2025 12:25:56
Struggle to see how the squad can be unfit as we come into November.
Perhaps playing 3 games a week isn't enough game time after all and that excuse a few days ago was wrong.
31 Oct 2025 12:31:04
I don't remember him saying that? He simply said they had better luck with injuries last year, and isak didn't have a preseason and that he has to play him to fitness somehow. He also said that he wasn't using this as an excuse, as other teams might have similar, if not exactly identical issues, just that those were factually the problems he had to deal with.
He also said that when he was asked about difficulties that they faced in games we lost, he gave an honest answer, but then the press made it seem like he was scrambling for excuses, which has made him apprehensive about giving an answer.
31 Oct 2025 12:31:52
I’m surprised he hasn’t used the clocks going back yet.
31 Oct 2025 12:34:12
I think Slot has suggested fitness for a few players, rather than a general fitness issue. Isak was late and there's something they are not telling us about Macca fitness. We already know about Bradley and Curtis injury records.
The only surprising one was Jeremie Frimpong but I saw both injuries as they happened. In both cases he was sprinting very low with resistance from the opposition player being applied. That combination will get you hamstring injuries. He would have been better off going down on contact than apply the sprint under extra weight. The only player that survives that kind of action is Mo Salah - a physical freak.
Is there a general fitness issue. Difficult to say whether it is fitness or that the complexity of the system Slot is trying to implement is getting in the way of the more natural actions of intensity. You will get more intensity if they are not spending their time thinking about pressing patterns of the opposition.
So it could be general fitness of the squad but equally the complexity of the setup is eroding the intensity could be the actual issue.
31 Oct 2025 12:36:00
Redrebel. id snap ya hand off for top 4 now . atm we just look like a mid table team.
31 Oct 2025 13:12:43
True stroms, I've seen teams perform better in the championship than what we're looking like at the min mate.
Slot needs to go, I like the man but I don't think we'll win another game under him, we'll lose tomorrow and carry on losing. The sooner he's gone the better. We need a refresh and get these players playing exactly how they should be playing.
31 Oct 2025 14:05:38
We won't win another game under Slot? ?.
31 Oct 2025 14:14:36
Irish you really do talk an absolute load of waffle.
Do you really think they went straight into a full preseason program after what happened at the start of preseason?
You just have absolutely no idea do you? This isn’t a computer game you know they are living, breathing, feeling people. There is no way in the world they have all gone to Diogo and Andre’s funeral and then gone straight into an intense preseason program days later. No way at all.
I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of them had some kind of compassionate leave so for some it might have been weeks before they went into a full program. The club has a duty of care to all of the players after what happened there’s no way they are forcing players to train hard just days after.
31 Oct 2025 14:19:40
I don't think we will Rigsby, no. Hopefully I'm wrong but I just don't see him turning things around. Guess work I know but we will see.
31 Oct 2025 14:36:50
Diego sadly passed on the 3 July and his funeral was on the 5th. Players then started pre season training on the 8th in preparation for their first pre season friendly v Preston on the 13th July.
31 Oct 2025 14:54:44
Salah, I am as certain, as certain can be, that we will win another game under Slot. You've gone from being the most optimistic poster on here to making the most negative statement.
31 Oct 2025 14:57:24
Tbh, Salah, I thought you were being sarcastic at first.
It's a big call but I shouldn't laugh. It was more out of shock than ridicule so I'll apologise because you meant it.
I hope you are wrong and I'm saying we'll win tomorrow. I just think we are overdue getting something.
Early goals and late goals haven't gone our way recently but we haven't helped ourselves either. I'm hoping at least one of the stars we do have can get us going. That's what we paid the money for. Are you reading, Florian Wirtz?
I'm not sure about the two games after that though.
31 Oct 2025 15:08:11
Cheers Jk ?
I’ll stick to the facts and let BP stick to the waffle.
31 Oct 2025 15:17:50
Rigsby I’m with you on this. Really hoping for a win tomorrow night. Years gone by games against Villa and City would worry me but truth be told the way both play might actually be a good thing for us.
I want us to win but I wouldn’t put any big money on us winning currently.
{Ed025's Note - i think Villa will bear the brunt of all this turmoil JK and im going for a 3-0 win for the reds and it will be the start of the revival mate..
31 Oct 2025 15:29:22
I can't help but feel that there is a lot of hyperbole on here, despite us losing a string of games, looking tactically suspect and conceding naive goals, it's not like we are getting pumped week in week out, we are still creating lots of chances and not scoring them. The way people talk it's like every team is running us ragged and flooding through the gates of our open defense and making wirtz and kerkez wish that they were never born.
Yes we have made a mistake not having more physicality in the team, or at least trying to set the team up so we aren't caught out by one pass through the lines at least twice a game. There is still time to fix the shape, and time to fix the mistake we made in the transfer window.
But the way people talk, saying all the players we bought were wrong, this spell is worse than hodgson, whoever got kerkez should be sacked, slot doesn't have a clue how to coach in the prem, championship teams are superior to us, I can't make sense of it and I'm honestly in disbelief sometimes.
31 Oct 2025 15:41:23
No way am i calling for the head of a man who only gave us No.20 a few short months ago. Yes its terrible form, but far away from the chop for me.30 league wins tomorrow for Slot if Victorious in 48 games. Kenny currently holds the record in our history for 30 in his first 50.
31 Oct 2025 16:03:30
It shows you how bad we are when the current PL champions are hoping for a win at Anfield ?.
31 Oct 2025 15:57:35
Ed025 That is an unexpected, upbeat prediction from you.
My feeling is that there were many contributing factors which won us the league and that nowhere near as much as people (inc Slot) think was down to him. The Ego loves to run with the adulation and believe in its greatness, its part of the human condition.
Slot has earnt a bad season, although not qualifying for the CL and doing badly in this seasons at the same time is not an option. He will be gone before it gets to that. CL income is essential to our business model.
If Slot is as great as many people think he is, he will cease complaining and lead us out of this slump.
My gut feeling is that he is not the man to stabilise and lead us to prolonged glory, and i've felt this way since not long after the Spurs game. That doesn't mean that I do not want him to succeed, but that I believe someone like Iraola, a man with a defined system would be more likely to carry on in Klopps footsteps and be able to better utilise the players that we do have.
Moving beyond 2/ 3 of the greatest players that we've ever had in Virgil, Mo and Ali, which may have to happen over the next 2 years, needs to be overseen by a strong, dynamic manager who commands the respect of the players. I need more than last season to be convinced that Slot is that man, personally speaking.
{Ed025's Note - i dont believe he is as bad as what some are making out Dr B but whether that translates to him being the man to take you forward i dont know, you have some excellent players and are still creating chances to win games so if it does click the whole narrative can change, a good performance against Villa and its game back on but your defence and midfield need to up their game, i think they can mate and for me your next 3 results will be WDW, so lets see how much i actually know..
31 Oct 2025 16:26:16
You’re just proving my point there JK. You do remember the emotion of the Preston game don’t you? The wreaths, the songs before the game?
There is no way the players had been in a full preseason program prior to or straight after that game.
I say again, we are dealing with real people here not pixels on a screen. The coaching staff are simply not going to tell the players to just get over it and start running. It’s ridiculous to suggest they would.
31 Oct 2025 16:34:25
I really like Iraola, but he has nothing like the track record of Slot. Has also never managed a team even NEAR the scrutiny he would get managing us. Probably pretty similar to the way everyone wanted Kerkez last year and now that we have him he's not fit to wear our shirt apparently.
31 Oct 2025 16:59:54
I wasn’t trying to prove any point Robbo. I read your comment and was actually quite intrigued so looked into it and posted what I found.
31 Oct 2025 17:13:23
Risby, fingers crossed you're right mate - I'd be delighted if he managed to turn things around.
Rome, I'm still very positive about the team just not the management of it.
31 Oct 2025 18:50:03
Ed025 I could actually hug now mate. That's the best pep talk I've read on here in the last few days my friend ?.
{Ed025's Note - you have not become a bad team overnight Bazza and the quality you have is evident to me mate, a few tweaks here and there and the lads who have been under performing to get their act together and it could easily turn around and i firmly believe it will..
31 Oct 2025 19:11:40
Slot thinks he has a big enough squad, then he doesn’t, then he does. Think we are several light - CB, DM, Wide forward.
31 Oct 2025 19:10:40
If your proved right Ed025 all the beer is on me next time you visit Ireland ??.
{Ed025's Note - i will hold you to that Barry.. :)
31 Oct 2025 23:22:38
I agree with Salah and also think slot won’t get us out of the slump and I think he should be sacked I would like too get the psg manager Enrique in as he would make us a lot better again.
31 Oct 2025 22:57:41
That's a promise Ed025.
{Ed025's Note - thats a date then mate..
01 Nov 2025 16:07:50
I can’t see us getting anything out of the Villa game the way we’re playing. I think Slot is too stubborn to ditch the current tactics and as we have been most of the season, we’ll be far too over run in midfield, our defence will come under too much pressure and we’ll concede cheaply without much in reply.
If he has any sense, he’ll ditch this daft idea of the midfielders joining the attack and he’ll ditch the equally daft inverted full backs and play to their strengths.