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28 Nov 2025 19:09:01
So there is a lot and I mean a lot of sack Slot opinions on here, and we are all entitled to say whatever we want to of course. I however strongly disagree with sacking Slot for one predominant reason and it’s this. There are 12 managers who have won the premier league in its history, 12. Viewed through that lens Slot is a unicorn. There is only 1 other Liverpool manager who won one and whilst we alllove him, he should have won many more. I remember the first Man Utd game and his dissection of their tactics in the interview after, I was and remain impressed.

It’s not going well, we all know that, but less than a month we turned Madrid over and deserved to. Slot will sort it, given time and we’ll be singing his name for years to come if we just hold on, after all aren’t we supposed to be the supporters that weather storms such as these? It’s in our dna and our bloody song. Let’s get behind our bald eagle and I’m fairly certain he’ll be adding more titles in the years to come.



28 Nov 2025 19:15:18
Not a hope of him turning it around. He has learned nothing. Same set up and tactics every game and same outcome. Time to get rid of him now.



28 Nov 2025 19:29:01
12 games into the season after Leicester won the league, they were in 12th place. Where we are now. They stood by Ranieri and the team went into freefall, by the time they sacked him, after the January transfer window had closed, they were 1 point above relegation. There’s no reason to think that the same won’t happen given we are so poor in all areas of the pitch.

There is no reason to think that Slot has any ideas on how to stop our alarming slide down the table. He cannot put a string of wins together and has no idea on how to make us difficult to beat. It is better to move on than allow this situation to worsen. And if you think we’re too good to get relegated, we’re not. Our form is relegation form.



28 Nov 2025 19:39:06
I want to believe your opinion Hoody honest!

I just feel I can't

What I'm seeing every game is just to obvious to deny. Truth be told he started to loose the plot around the PSG games last year. We all made excuses as we effectively limped towards the end of the season. But in reality it was there to see. Then loosing DJ RIP was a hammer blow. Diaz Nunez and Jota all provided energy. taking that out of the squad, introducing the new lads has left Slot out of his depth. His Personality is not able to overcome this situation. Klop would have been ok. But not Arna his charisma isn't the same. He is not dynamic enough.



28 Nov 2025 19:43:34
Victor you are unhinged bro. Relegated, cmon, worst case scenario is a top 8 finish and that is extremely unlikely. Comparing us to Leicester is simply nonsensical and I can’t really believe that you believe that comparison is legitimate. 12 mate, only 12 and he is one of them. Think about that.



28 Nov 2025 19:49:45
I’m with Hoody. It’s not like there are great managers out there. Sacking Slot would put us on a Man U trajectory. Things are ugly right now, but what is Slot meant to do? With some key injuries, we have no one on the bench who should be starting.



28 Nov 2025 19:51:51
I work as an economist (an analyst more generally) and two of the most important principles in my field are that the process is often more important than the result, and that correlation often does not equate to causation.

Arne undeniably did a fantastic job to win the league last season. However, it is clear to most that one of either two scenarios are being played out. Firstly, that the process was wrong last season and a slow decline from those methods is only really showing itself this season. Alternatively, he has changed his methods completely this season and has absolutely lost his head, thus rendering his first league title redundant.

Either way, he should be sacked. His current methods are the antithesis of what a successful manager in Britain should be implementing.



28 Nov 2025 19:52:19
I believe I have alluded tothe fact of how impressed I was with slot for showing a ruthlessness and tactical knowledge that surprised many supporters and pundits alike but that same ruthlessness and tactical knowledge appears to be non existent this season which is why many supporters are feeling that it's time to leave and as Victor has said sometimes sticking rather than twisting can lead to more problems.


Last season he was a unicorn this seasons he's a donkey and I reiterate from a previous post I feel bad saying that, amd every fans opinion has the right to be heard.



28 Nov 2025 19:52:29
Aye, we won’t be in a relegation fight, that’s just a nonsense statement but top 8 is still a very bad return for the current PL Champions and £450 million of new talent.



28 Nov 2025 19:53:07
Victor knows that himself Hoody but nothing like a bit of sensationalism to get your piint across. For all the dissection and criticism were still just 2 points off d champs lge places.



28 Nov 2025 19:54:18
I think the question at this stage is : do u sack the manager r do u sack the players?
Personally I always think the players getaway a bit scot free in these situations but as we all know it's the manager who pays the price.
Somethings gone badly wrong which nobody can quite put there finger on but I think slot will pay the price.

As op said to have a Premiership winning manager and then to sack him few months later is a v big decision but something has went v wrong and slots inability to change to a more physical Premiership and our fitness levels looking below everybody elses will mean he is the 1 who pays price.



28 Nov 2025 20:03:47
Of the 11 other managers to have won the Premier League 5 were sacked the following season. Winning the league doesn't guarantee you a job for life. Slot can only live on last season for so long, we're on our worst run of form since the 1950's, things have to change starting at West Ham or he should and will be sacked.



28 Nov 2025 20:09:57
Unhinged? One league win in the last 6 matches. Our last three results being beaten by three goals, two of those at home and one of those by a relegation candidate. We don’t look like scoring, we’re soft and weak in midfield and have very little quality in depth, we’re extremely poor in defence. We regularly concede cheap goals and rarely trouble opposition keepers.

That is relegation form. To suggest we’re too good to go down given the form we’re in is extreme hubris. The fact that Slot thought the performance against United when we lost at home was better than when we beat Villa tells you how out of touch he is.



28 Nov 2025 20:15:11
Watching the footy last year a lot of the time bored the tits off me. It’s p. poor this year. The thing that doesn’t help him or show his skills as a manager is his reluctance to try something different. If you’re on a bad run and you go to city make sure you don’t lose. I think as a set of supporters we would have seen the logic in keeping it tight. He refuses to use the squad to change it up what’s the point of a squad. He will throw chiesa on when we concede 3 goals but not when we go only 1 behind. I don’t think it’s stubbornness I think it’s a lack of nouse.

The shouts of he won it with klopps team look more true now watching his style and tactics. It galls me to think we are calling for a manager to be sacked but Liverpool have never sacked a manager who has won the league. I’ll say it again if he gets the shove it’s his own fault. It doesn’t look like he’s trying to fight the slump. Bit of luck he takes dickey Hughes with him. The football is diabolical I really don’t mind losing but lose with a fight or some hard done by misfortune like when Barcelona beat us 3-0 or when we lost the league by a point. Not like this.



28 Nov 2025 20:31:05
Loads of points I agree with that’s why I’m absolutely torn on what the club should do. I would give him time but only if he changes to a high intensity/ tempo game aka the Real Madrid game. I would take that all day long but worry how he hasn’t seen what’s missing.

In his defence with all of the injuries we have there isn’t many personnel changes he can make, although Konate needs to come out and probably salah. I really hope he changes the above for Sunday, he doesn’t deserve to be sacked if he does that.



{Ed025's Note - where are all these injuries Ecogsi?

28 Nov 2025 20:47:31
Hoody, what do you see that makes you think Slot can turn it around. He refuses to change. He plays Salah every game, he's been awful for months. He plays the soon the be leaving Konate every game, he's atrocious and has been for months, he hasn't changed training to make the players any fitter as they are clearly clearly no where near as fit as they were even 12 months ago, I can only imagine to avoid nurn out and injuries later in the season, he won't change this diabolical style of play that's slow and ponderous and easy to attack.

he's lost the plot im affraid . there's nothing there to say he's going to turn it around. Unless Slot addresses all of the above nothing will change. So realistically Hoody do you honestly seem him turning it around.



28 Nov 2025 21:03:22
You’re making excuses for him ecogsi. There are players there who he could use.



28 Nov 2025 21:19:49
Frimpong, Bradley, Leoni, Alison, wirtz, ekitike.

I’m not trying or make excuses, I’m saying the intensity and tempo needs to change. I’d bring Gomez in for Konate, not sure I’d bring in chiesa and ngumoha for Izak and salah though. I don’t see any other changes he can make?



{Ed025's Note - but Frimpong is not a starter or Leoni Ecogsi, the others have all played mate, i do agree that others should be considered though and if he continues with his stubbornness he will be out the door..

28 Nov 2025 22:03:10
So as an analyst Woolback who’s more incompetent, Richard Hughes, Arne Slot, or Rachel Reeves?



28 Nov 2025 22:06:35
Hoody, 20 points in our last 16 PL games isn't quite relegation form but close to it. If we extrapolate this season, we end up with 57 points. Again, not relegation form. If we do the same with our last 7 games, we would finish with 16 points. That's relegation form.

So to think that we aren't in serious freefall is naive at best. We should be talking solid top 4 finish here at a min and the fact that we're not tells us something is more than amiss.



28 Nov 2025 22:26:15
I think another thing we've maybe lost sight of lately is Salah 29 goals and 18 assists in the PL last season. Obviously unreal numbers. Take those out and where would we have finished? Clearly missing that output this season but maybe Salah's season often papered over some average performances last season.



28 Nov 2025 22:27:56
MasterSouness, who are the key injuries? We've hardly had anything approaching an injury crisis this season. All have been fairly short term and i would say very limited impact on the squad.



28 Nov 2025 22:34:23
Tons of good talking points on this thread. But the bottom line is we can't blame injuries and we can't be so unlucky that almost the entire squad is so woefully out of form or not good enough.

We were singing Hughes' praises not too long ago. He's not the problem here. We've arguably had the biggest transfer window in our PL history and Slot has blown it. Not Hughes, etc. Only one way this is turning around.



28 Nov 2025 22:47:22
I think we are at serious risk of being dragged into a relaxation battle. I think our ivory tower mentality will blinker us and before we know it we will be in it.

Once in it, we are showing no signs of having the fight or the mettle to get out of it.



{Ed025's Note - i think quite a few of these are in a relaxation battle StEA.. :)

28 Nov 2025 23:08:46
To be fair, a solid Top 4 is still well within our reach. Plenty of teams have poor periods in their season, ours just happens to be horrendous.
For me, Slot is on a tightrope now.

Id like to stick with him if we start winning from now, starting versus WHU. If we lose any matches in the next month or two, my confidence in him has gone.



29 Nov 2025 08:48:46
Slot proved he could put a string of wins together and make us difficult to beat last season. To say that he can't is nonsense.
Slot, like most other managers, will be judged on results, he has shown that he can get results and that's why he is Liverpool manager.


If he continues this poor run of results, he will be sacked and rightly so but changing the manager doesn't guarantee that results will change.



 
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