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03 Jul 2023 19:14:05
Mason Mount. I am slightly relieved he is going elsewhere as - well-rounded character that he is - I just don't understand what kind of player he is? Closest comparison I can make is Milner: started off as a creative player, but ultimately an utility player. United desperately need that kind of character, but I am not sure that he would have given us a skillset we didn't already have? Wish him all the best, but he was not what we needed. But if he really does have the persona of Milner, he will make United way more competitive.
1.) 03 Jul 2023 21:00:45
I half like him, wouldn’t just dismiss him. Think klopp would definitely improved his game.
2.) 03 Jul 2023 21:23:07
OP, I always said we could do better than him but if Klopp wanted him then, I was fine with it. But at 60m and 24Ok a week? No way. If we had to pay 60m for Alex Mac then, I would be fine with it cos of what he brings to us which is way more than what Mount would bring. Same goes for Szobo as well. Good luck to him at Utd. Very nice kid, btw.
3.) 03 Jul 2023 22:36:46
I find it ludicrous that united have signed him and Chelsea are replacing him for caicedo at less money. Awful signing and glad we never got him. Offers nothing as his last world cup showing proved. Over hyped English and next season will prove that.
{Ed002's Note - Chelsea are not replacing Mason Mount with Caicedo nor is Caicedo cheaper. You want to keep bleating amount then you need to take it up with Klopp who wanted to sign him and tapped him up.}
4.) 03 Jul 2023 23:35:03
He feels like an Eriksen type of player to me. I think he will do well at united. Similar to that Mata role they used before. He’s that type of player.
Comes up with some stuff, nothing crazy but every now and then will do awesome things, just not often enough, works hard though and as others said, could have worked under Klopp but I am much happier with our choices now, mac and DS are better in my thoughts and improve us more than he would have while also saving us crazy on the English homegrown tax.
Best of luck to him.
5.) 04 Jul 2023 08:40:26
Maybe Ten Haag will improve him.
6.) 04 Jul 2023 11:04:00
United have a very unbalanced midfield, it's a strange signing if they only have limited funds (apparently but doubt it), im glad we went in the direction of Sloba, much more exciting.
7.) 03 Jul 2023 22:15:06
His progression has stalled. Dodged a bullet for sure.
{Ed002's Note - Why was Klopp keen enough to tap him up the ?}
30 Jun 2023 20:29:08
When it comes to accurate reporting of new LFC signings by the press, it strikes me that the sequence almost always is: Ornstein at The Athletic with the initial hint, Paul Joyce (The Times) with the scoop, Melissa Reddy with the confirmation, Romano with the subsequent Twitter confirmation, and the BBC with gold-carded confirmation. Clearly, these are the club's preferred media outlets. I suspect they (along with the rightly cagey eds here) are the only voices to pay attention to. A few people on here give Athletic's James Pearce stick, but he writes as a fan and (a really good) analyst - and I can't think of a single occasion when he's pretended to know who we are signing.
1.) 30 Jun 2023 21:09:32
OP for me, I did not belive it until Paul Joyce chimed in. That's when I knew we were onto something and that this could happen. As you said, these are the mouth pieces of the club esp. Joyce.
Pearce? I disagree. All he does is write stuff based on conjecture and speculation or essentiall say what every other non preferred LFC journo says. Same with Neil Jones. I do not pay that much attention to what those two say.
30 Jun 2023 20:12:38
One for fans who suffered the early 90s. is it fair to say we didn't make a really decent first team signing between Houghton in summer '87 and Hyppia in summer '98? During that period, outside of the total duds, Rush came back (for me, I'm not sure about his 2nd period), Redknapp came in as an U21 player, and then we had up-and-down players like McAteer, Mark Wright, Rob Jones (in fairness injury did for him), Scales (underrated), and Collymore (good for 1 season) .
That's 11 years of poor recruitment with a lot of money spent, 3 seasons of which were under Kenny when we were the number one club. Looking at that: I am not sure we can totally blame Mad Graeme for our decline - did we lose the plot with recruitment? I mean the likes of Keane, Shearer etc were available during those years. recruitment wise, the club seems to have been a complacent mess, and awfully similar to the last years of Fergie onwards at Man U.
1.) 30 Jun 2023 20:45:38
Neil ruddock and Paul Ince were quality mate. Brad freidel became a very very good keeper too, not great for us.
But yeah we wasted a hell of a lot of money on some average players.
{Ed025's Note - Ruddock quality Magico?, a big lump of lard who got very lucky for me mate..
2.) 30 Jun 2023 21:04:56
Didn’t Molby sign in 88?
3.) 30 Jun 2023 21:09:53
Well I wouldn’t say that we didn’t make some good first team signings, many didn’t work out but at the time they were looked upon as good buys.
Summer of houghton, Barnes and Beardsley was great business but Kenny really failed to build on that and we suffered because of that (bit like last season) .
Souness came in and tried to change things too quickly by replacing an aging team with some great young players from youth team and outside but he brought some decent ones.
David James was very highly thought of
Dean Saunders was banging the goals in at derby
Mark Wright had been excellent for club and country
Nigel clough was an odd signing but he’d done well at forest
Roy Evans got John Scales who had done well at Wimbledon and Phil Babb who had a good W/ C
Collymore had a great partnership with Fowler in 1st year but was a muppet
Mcateer was a really good wing back in Roys system
Patrick Berger had great strike on him and was a good player
Danny Murphy was very underrated at times
Reidle was an experienced player but had injury issues
Hamann was a very good DM
Many of these didn’t work out but at the time didn’t think any were bad signings.
Keane was set for Blackburn and agreed transfer until Fergie stepped in last minute and Shearer was brought by Blackburn same time we took Saunders and Saunders had better goal record…. hindsight obviously took wrong player….
{Ed025's Note - good knowledge there nutter..
4.) 30 Jun 2023 21:11:27
Magico1234, Ruddock? Sorry, he epitomized the incompetence that was dragging the club thru the 90's, IMO.
{Ed025's Note - im with you oli..
5.) 30 Jun 2023 21:13:57
Ronnie Rosenthal's goals spurred us to a league title, I always thought Mark Walters was a ok signing, Patrik Berger and Danny Murphy also spring to mind. The early 90's had many more bad signings than good ones though.
6.) 30 Jun 2023 21:14:34
Personally loved his attitude on the pitch ed. maybe not the best player but for us I think he gave 100% when available. Certainly better than julian dicks. Expected a lot from him too. But yeah we had some complete rubbish.
{Ed025's Note - i thought he epitomized everything that was wrong with liverpool in the 90,s Magico mate..
7.) 30 Jun 2023 21:22:46
Omg 84 molby ( what a summer) soz for the guesswork.
8.) 30 Jun 2023 21:25:40
Karl Heinze riedle was underrated, leonhardersen wasn't bad and paddy Berger was a fantastic signing especially for the females of Liverpool.
9.) 30 Jun 2023 21:35:06
Hard not to agree. There were a few good signings like Patrick Berger, Rob Jones, arguably Ince as well. But so much un-coordinated dross. Keane turned us down because he felt Utd were on the way up. He could have changed things back in our favour. Houllier was the manager who started improving matters after spending the 90s in the doldrums.
10.) 30 Jun 2023 21:43:07
With you there, Ed25. He and Dicks were poor signings. Giving 100% will never cover your deficiencies when going against the best in your position. That just means you're playing hard while the others are playing smart. I know the type of player I would want.
{Ed025's Note - spot on oli..
11.) 30 Jun 2023 21:43:13
We were held back for years under Moore’s and Parry.
12.) 30 Jun 2023 23:36:56
@nutter
Karl Heinz reidle
I loved him growing up even kicked off until I got all black boots the same as him.
13.) 01 Jul 2023 02:35:33
Not sure when he signed. But the original mcallister was a quality signing.
14.) 01 Jul 2023 02:44:15
Look, I was fond of Reidle too - but he was about as useful as Morientes. We had a dreadful approach to signings- eg signing Millwall’s Mark Kennedy after he had a decent game against us. Something at the club went horribly wrong with recruitment ‘87-99, and I am not sure we can blame the managers from that era for that. Big question: who should have stepped in as manager after Kenny stood down in ‘91? Slim pickings….
15.) 30 Jun 2023 22:23:19
Love all those responses - particularly from 025. Huge crossover with Everton and LFC chucking their money in the wrong place since late 80s….
16.) 01 Jul 2023 08:18:31
Molby was signed in 84 to replace Souness, John. Souness went to Sampdoria and we bought Molby from Ajax, I think. He was still a kid though, a bloody big one, and didn't play that regularly. You could see his class but it was an uneviable task for anyone replacing Souness.
Especially for a teenager.
17.) 01 Jul 2023 08:26:19
Added- Jan Molby was 21 when he signed. I always thought he was 19 when we got him. Apologies.
He got more of a chance when Dalglish took over but that could also be down to Molby settling in more to the English game and the team adapting to the loss of Souness. Dalglish did bring in a few midfielders, too.
18.) 01 Jul 2023 08:52:58
Nutter fair play! - good memory. I remember all of it when you say it, but some of that just wouldn’t have sprung to mind. I used to live Saunders when I was young, what was I thinking!
19.) 01 Jul 2023 09:23:46
Who can forget Houllier’s first signing - John Michel Ferri.
W
T
F.
20.) 01 Jul 2023 10:56:18
Jan Molby, had a wand of a foot - an absolute great pass on him, loved watching him tbh.
{Ed025's Note - great player bill, proved you dont have to be a stick insect if you have a good brain mate..
21.) 01 Jul 2023 11:28:38
Jan Molby signed in August 1984, the same summer Souness left .
03 Jun 2023 15:30:30
On the most disappointing (as opposed to worst), there have been a massive amount since 1990 who were massively hyped (and seen as game-changer signings) but then were dreadful with us. Some of these names might surprise you (as ever being highly rated in the first place: Dean Saunders, Phil Babb,
Leonhardsen (! ), Paul Ince, Christian Ziege, Harry Kewell, Carroll (thInk he would have been fine if Kenny had remained) . I also expected more from Mark Wright, but he had his moments. Left back (after Staunton sold 1st time) and DM were huge problem positions for us throughout 90s onwards until we signed Didi - though I think Andy R the only excellent LB since Staunton.
1.) 03 Jun 2023 16:08:53
Aurelio was class as was riise on his day.
2.) 03 Jun 2023 16:23:04
I did think Aurelio would come up. Superb player, but injuries really confined him to such a bit part role. Riise and his compatriot Stig had some good moments early on, but became liabilities defensively. Rob Evans deserves a mention as Evans played him at left wing back, but his career was ultimately destroyed by injuries. I still think that Evans’ team could have been mustard if they hadn’t lost that dire FA Cup Final to Man U (people like to say we didn’t turn up on the day, but Man U were equally dreadful) .
3.) 03 Jun 2023 16:45:28
Riise's over-rated imo. Great shot on him but otherwise nothing special. Particularly in his last couple of years when he seemed to bulk up too much (and he wasn't small to begin with) which slowed him down and made him a liability defensively.
Agree on Aurelio. He was class when fit.
4.) 03 Jun 2023 16:54:40
Riise lived off that rocket against Man Utd for too long. He wasn't that good.
Aurelio was quality though. Just a shame he could never stay fit.
5.) 03 Jun 2023 16:59:41
Aurelio was awesome when fit. Which wasn’t often. My abiding memory of him was that brilliant 4-1 win over Utd where we destroyed them.
6.) 03 Jun 2023 17:07:45
Liverpool making blatantly awful signings in the transfer market is all I've ever known. Aquilani, Carroll, Balotelli and the like, everybody knew deep down they were a bad idea.
Robbie Keane possibly counts as a disappointment. I was too young to appraise him properly as a player, but having a second striker to play alongside Torres seemed like a surefire success. Too bad he was a muppet and sold 6 months later.
I think the biggest disappointment has to be Keita. I know we were warned by Ed002 that he wasn't good news, but it still seemed so promising. Everybody wanted him! I honestly thought he was going to be our David Silva.
Unfortunately he has been the biggest waste of space since El Hadji Diouf. Carroll was also a piece of work but he had something about him, whereas I'm not even sure Naby would have been good even without the self sabotage.
7.) 03 Jun 2023 17:36:04
We've made significantly fewer blatantly awful signings in the last few years, tbf. We just made two expensive ones (Keita and Ox) in the same position.
8.) 03 Jun 2023 17:38:59
Agreed that Riise bulked up way too much.
9.) 03 Jun 2023 17:42:38
Tell ya who flies under the radar a bit: Abel Xavier.
What were we thinking? My main memories of him are of him being totally destroyed by Ze Roberto vs. Leverkusen in the CL and of grabbing players in headlocks when defending set pieces.
Really poor player. Wasn't even first choice at Everton.
10.) 03 Jun 2023 17:48:58
I would agree on the Keita bit. Clearly the worst disappointment given the amount paid and the high expectations we all had. "The next Ngolo Kante" . Is there something worse than a wet firecracker?
If loans can be included, then I would add Sahin and Melo to the list. High amounts paid, high expectations and once again wet firecrackers. Loans are something this club has never been good with. I can't recall a single player who stands out and was worth keeping. In fact, you could probably say that "if you're loaned out by Liverpool you're not coming back, and if you're loaned into Liverpool you're not staying", LOL.
{Ed002's Note - Keira was always going to be a disaster.}
11.) 03 Jun 2023 17:59:27
World Cup winner Bernard Diomede. He was a disappointment.
I believe Djimi Traore was dubbed the new Marcel Desailly by Ged (Lol) .
12.) 03 Jun 2023 18:09:52
Joe Cole, Harry Kewell, Andy Carroll, Naby Keita, Lazar Markovic, Mario Balotelli, Jan Kromkamp, Rickie Lambert, Christian Poulson, Adam Lallana, Benteke, Keane, Paul Stewart, Nigel Clough, Charlie Adam, Caulker, Ziege, David James, the Scottish cb signed by Kenny, Mark gonzalez, Toure and Jay Spearing. I'm tired now. I know there's more!
13.) 03 Jun 2023 18:30:34
Mark Wright was a quality player - the problem was those around him like Konchelsky.
14.) 03 Jun 2023 18:32:22
Well they have the same number of Champions League medals, Ron. So maybe Ged was on to something.
Welcome back btw.
15.) 03 Jun 2023 19:30:28
Ed 02 will murder me for this, but yes he was right on Keita; but didn’t he also say that Gini would be a nightmare in terms of attitude? Not a criticism - impossible to be 100% right all of the time, but possibly shows that some players might surprise us. Huge apologies if my memory is serving me badly here: old men forget etc.
16.) 03 Jun 2023 19:38:45
In recent times, Lallana was the signing who excited me most. A silky baller, and a pressing monster - BR didn’t know how to use him, but Klopp did: was our best player under early Klopp, when fit.
17.) 03 Jun 2023 19:44:23
Ron - traore was a hero v Milan, 2 offline clearances . We wouldn’t have won in 2005 without him. So I don’t think he deserves to be on any naughty list!
18.) 03 Jun 2023 19:44:25
*Rob Jones.
19.) 03 Jun 2023 20:07:27
1JJ - Wright played in the 90s, Konchelsky was like 2010-2011 and he was awful.
20.) 03 Jun 2023 20:16:30
Did Konchesky play alongside Mark Wright?.
21.) 03 Jun 2023 20:28:52
Monster hope you’re not putting Rob Jones on any “disappointments” list. He was a superb right back, could defend and attack. Remember his first game against Utd and he stood out. Shame his injuries cost him his career.
22.) 03 Jun 2023 20:30:22
That free kick at OT for the 3-1 by Fab Aurelio will NEVER get old. One of the best left foots I have ever seen.
23.) 03 Jun 2023 20:44:14
Got to agree with OP. All them left backs mentioned have been average fodder over the years.
It’s been a problem area for Liverpool along side goalkeeper.
Klopp sorted that.
24.) 03 Jun 2023 21:25:17
For some odd reason i always liked david burrows.
25.) 03 Jun 2023 21:33:45
Stig Inge Bjornebye did a decent job at left back for us. Setup a fair few goals for God.
Aurelio was the most naturally talented.
Riise was good for a couple of seasons but fell off a cliff after that. His edge of the box volley technique was the massively underrated btw.
Like many by Souey, Staunton shouldn’t have been sold. Wasn’t good on his return though.
Dossena, Traore, Moreno, Konchesky, Vignal, Robinson, Warnock - not good enough.
26.) 03 Jun 2023 22:15:19
Going back to loans - Anelka came on loan and should have been kept in my opinion.
I didn’t put Djimi on a naughty list, the Burnley own goal goes down in folklore and should have won a Puskas award.
I just said he wasn’t on the same level as Desailly (LOL)
27.) 03 Jun 2023 23:50:40
Smason888 I have a soft spot for Burrows too only because he played left back when I was at school and so did I.
28.) 04 Jun 2023 00:17:40
Rob Jones was on his way to being a world class right back before the injuries. He was a much better right back then any playing the game today.
29.) 04 Jun 2023 00:55:05
Sean Dundee.
30.) 04 Jun 2023 08:07:35
Djimi Traore apparently had a bad confidence issue and was an absolute beast in training, but just couldn’t replicate that ability in a live game. Smashed it in the one big game that mattered most though.
31.) 04 Jun 2023 09:11:01
Anonymous Woolback
How you can say it's all you've ever known that we've made awful signings, is beyond me. We've signed a lot of rubbish - as does every other team when money is an object and even when it isn't (Antony: Lukaku: Sanchez: Haller: Ndombele: Pogba: Torres: Morata: Pepe: Arizaballaga etc) .
We've also signed a lot of quality players in the last 20 years who have done wonderful things with us - Alonso: Torres: Salah: Mane: Robbo: VVD: Suarez: Mascherano: Hendo etc. Then there's the ones who we signed, who were World Beaters, but for injuries, bad managers, bad luck, wrong system/ inability to adapt etc. just didn't work out like Litmanen: Carrol: Aurelio: Anelka etc.
32.) 04 Jun 2023 09:40:25
not sure where AW is going with that one, but going to assume what they mean is there have been more misses than hits.
Anyways, besides the obvious ones already names some others that stick out for me:
Anthony Le Tallec and Florent Simana Pongolle - I was sold on the dream of our very own Zidane and Henry lol. They both had their moments and unfortunately never fulfilled the promise!
Joao Teixeira - looked so good in the youth CL. Felt so sorry for him and his back injury
Balotelli - Just wish he took the chance he had with us, but probably wasn't the right player for Rodgers
Litmanen - awesome player and we only saw glimpses of that with us.
33.) 04 Jun 2023 10:03:15
1-4, Oli.
Does anyone remember Julian Dicks?
He could take a penalty though.
34.) 04 Jun 2023 10:40:30
And don't forget Glenn Hussein, and Kvarme. I remember Kvarmes debut against Man U - and thought wow - where did he come from - brill. And then he was pants after that.
35.) 04 Jun 2023 11:52:18
Obviously I don’t mean we have never signed any good players. The question was about disappointing signings, as in players who fell way below initial excitement and expectations. When we sign someone poor, it’s most often a catastrophe you can see coming a mile off.
Joe Cole is a great shout, enjoyed watching him in the 2000’s but when he joined it was quickly apparent he was spent.
Lallana is another, I thought he was a perfect signing for us, only to spend all of his time on the injury table and hold onto the ball for far too long.
Upon reflection, my only answer can be Moreno. We’d faced problems at left back for decades, and it seemed like we’d bought a top quality one for a bargain price. It started off well initially, with the goal against Spurs. Pretty soon the mistakes began to creep to the surface, and before too long the picture was clear.
A part of me feels bad for criticising him harshly, because we often say that effort is the bare minimum, and so many of the aforementioned signings didn’t give 100%. Moreno did at least try, which is why the manager kept him around for so long.
Even though i recognise that, I don’t think there has ever been a Liverpool player I have held such contempt for. Nobody has before or since made me so violently enraged on such a consistent basis. Every time he took to the field, it seemed as though each action was calculated to be the most optimally brain dead thing he could have done at that given moment.
I almost never saw him cross, because he repeatedly tried to recreate that goal against Spurs every time he was in that position, even though the shot was never on. His defensive errors seemed to get worse by the week, if I had the vocabulary to describe them then I would, but they had to be seen to be believed. Between 5-10 times every game, the opposition would be let in due to the most horrifyingly stupid decisions that he would make, most often positional ones.
If two moments sum him up best, it would be the Europa League final, which is informally known as the Alberto Moreno final to all who endured it. The second would be an incident against Dortmund, in the first leg. a Dortmund player had the ball, under no pressure, by his corner flag. None of our other players were engaging in a press, because there wasn’t anything on. Moreno, with heartfelt sincerity in believing that was what pressing was, sprinted from his own half towards the Dortmund defender, and near enough two footed him. He gave away a free kick and received a yellow, covering 80 yards to foul a player in the most unthreatening position on the pitch.
Wish him well, was happy to see him lift the Europa League with Villarreal. Never known a more frustrating or disappointing player at Liverpool though.
36.) 04 Jun 2023 12:29:39
Nick Tanner
Awful signing.
37.) 05 Jun 2023 12:50:50
Bjorynebye at LB was an awesome crosser of the ball.
01 Jun 2023 17:55:29
Apologies if this has been done before, but. would be really good to have recommendations of people's favourite books about LFC. I think I have only read two: Simon Hughes' superb account of Roy Evans' team The Men in White Suits (probably my favourite era as it was totally mad, but with all that home talent coming through), and Graeme's autobiography. Is David Peace's novelised account of Shankly, Red or Dead, any good? His Red Riding Trilogy was excellent, as was Damned United. Slightly amazed the eds here haven't got together to write a book - as they write so well.
1.) 01 Jun 2023 18:17:31
Intensity 2. It’s a horror.
2.) 01 Jun 2023 18:26:03
Always start with Hillsborough The Truth which I think personally should be on the national curriculum.
3.) 01 Jun 2023 19:59:11
Brian Reade’s, An Epic Swindle: 44 Months with a Pair of Cowboys is a very good read.
4.) 01 Jun 2023 20:07:38
Good shout, bigbaz.
And I'll add '43 Years With The Same Bird' by Brian Reade.
5.) 01 Jun 2023 22:27:00
Confession: I just managed to give a thumbs up to my own post, when I was trying to applaud the hilarious recommendation for intensity. The nod re Brian Reade’s book on the American bandits who almost bankrupted the club was a good one. For books outside of LFC, I seriously recommend the Michael Cox one on tactics. Fascinating on Juventus, the decline - outside of Italy - of the No 10 role etc.
6.) 02 Jun 2023 10:53:55
Also try Secret Diary of a Liverpool Scout - a biography of Geoff Twentyman - well worth a read.
I've also enjoyed Fowler and Carra's autobiographies, as well as struggling through Pepe's, Gerrards and Fernandos!
Dalglish and Paisley autobiographies are well worth a read too.
Monstersouness's rumour replies
04 Jul 2023 20:39:43
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{Ed002's Note - Both of you have been removed.}
30 Jun 2023 22:03:10
Ed 025 - totally agree. I think Smith dreadful, but his figures stack up, and the critics ignore the bad stuff. Phil Hughes was killed by a fast ball, but Smith still set his bowlers to make their fast ball even more dangerous - with sandpaper etc. Appalling, and dangerous: but he cried at a press conference, so it’s ok. Posters will ask is this relevant to football? It is; cheating is dangerous: it can end players’ careers, or worse.
{Ed025's Note - i dont like cheats MS, thats why i hope the likes of city get stripped of their titles mate...it should never be acceptable..
30 Jun 2023 20:44:17
Great post Magico. I’ve been supporting this team since 1982, and would put Jordan in my all-time midfield. Sounds ridiculous, but other than Mad Graeme I don’t think we have had as an inspirational captain like him. He’s like Keegan: made the most of his ability. It’s not just about the skill you are born with, it’s about character. Steve Smith possibly the ugliest batsman I have seen, but through sheer strength of character has become one of the greatest of all time. I don’t think it is any coincidence that the usually tactically dreadful England football team have looked organised when he has played. Top player, top man. He played a huge part in our incredible run of wins over the Klopp years.
{Ed025's Note - Steve Smith one of the greatest of all time?...not in the top 200 mate, plus hes a proven cheat,
30 Jun 2023 19:47:45
Hilarious. Looks like the club has just bought 2 of the most-highly rated emerging midfielders in European football at a spend of £100m, but let’s grumble about who we haven’t yet signed. Every top club wanted these players, and I think it is to Klopp and the recruitment team’s credit that they chose us. I never thought we’d be able to get Mac Allister. People are forgetting how good he is. This is looking like a superb window, and let’s not forget about how stacked we are now in attack, with way more options than Klopp has had before. Diaz, Nunez, Gakpo - the potential is huge.
{Ed025's Note - i agree mate..
24 Jun 2023 19:16:32
I really don’t think we’ve been shy of investing in the squad of late: Nunez, Diaz, Mac Allister and Gakpo all high profile signings - and our wage bill is big. Rather than the amount we spend, the problem has been with our overall transfer strategy. We are now playing catch up after the recruitment department failed to sign any midfielders apart from Thiago over a series of seasons. It’s just not feasible, though, for us to financially compete with state owned clubs. But I do agree to the comparison with Arsenal: I just don’t understand where their money is coming from? They had so many problematic players on huge wages, not notable sales (I think? ), and the debt from the stadium.
Monstersouness's banter replies
01 Jul 2023 17:37:57
I honestly think we should have to put our age next to our username - the Not Good post was extremely funny (and has at least helped me choose the epitaph for my tombstone), but I hate the idea of shooting down the thoughts of a 16 year old, as opposed to the ravings of someone much older.
01 Jul 2023 17:19:03
The options we have in attack are second to none. I suspect the goals will be shared out more, given we are bringing in midfielders with the legs to provide movement and a goal threat. Remember when our only attacking reserve was Origi? With this lot, I would be less concerned if in a final someone did a Ramos on Salah. People seriously underrate Jota: when fit, he gets goals, and we should hopefully see Diaz back to his best. I honestly don’t know if Nunez will explode, or implode: his instinctive movement is superb, but his decision making less so.
30 Jun 2023 22:23:19
Love all those responses - particularly from 025. Huge crossover with Everton and LFC chucking their money in the wrong place since late 80s….
01 Jul 2023 02:44:15
Look, I was fond of Reidle too - but he was about as useful as Morientes. We had a dreadful approach to signings- eg signing Millwall’s Mark Kennedy after he had a decent game against us. Something at the club went horribly wrong with recruitment ‘87-99, and I am not sure we can blame the managers from that era for that. Big question: who should have stepped in as manager after Kenny stood down in ‘91? Slim pickings….
26 Jun 2023 20:21:22
Really hate to rain on the parade, but next season will be super competitive. Man City - like us - had their 3 season dip, and will be stronger next season. Pock will have Chelsea playing at the level their spend warrants. Ten Haag is a good manager. Will Newcastle and Arsenal drop off a bit? Possibly so. But the league will be more competitive - in terms of the big 6 - than it has been for 20 years. The London clubs and United have generally been a bit rubbish during our ding-dong years with City: I fear that is over.