16 Jul 2026 12:59:14
Here's a good question. Ed's can get involved. Ed025 I know would chose Henderson ?
Who was/is the better player? Jordan Henderson in his peak years under Klopp or this Declan rice?
I think rice is excellent for Arsenal and is integral in the modern game. I don't think he's world class or even top class. He's a very good consistent player who scored one of the best free kicks I've ever seen live against real Madrid.
Henderson improved and improved as a young 21 year old up until 30.
Constantly got better and better and did many thing's in a game the average fan wouldn't pay attention too. A very good passer of the ball, a great engine and scored some beauties. Again, he was never World class for me but there was a season where I thought yes, this lad is now top class. That's when we were flying under Klopp.
You could roll a dice?on who to choose but I think Henderson brought more out of players around him.
{Ed025's Note - i would not be rolling any dice Ron, if i wanted someone to direct traffic then Hendo would be the very man mate, not very good at football but boy could he point, he is not fit to rainbow lace Rice,s boots im afraid because Declan is a tremendous player whilst Jordan was mediocrity personified..
16 Jul 2026 16:50:56
If Jordan played for any other team, we'd pick Rice all day long.
Jordan was our captain though, and I'll be forever grateful for his contribution.
Not the most talented, but a leader nonetheless.
Generally, the best players are not always the captains, and that was true for Hendo.
He was ours, and I'm so glad he was...
{Ed025's Note - a very good skipper i must admit JLC..
16 Jul 2026 17:00:52
I think Rice is massively overrated by the English press. He’s a centre back who has been converted into a midfield player, and it shows. But that’s why he suits Arsenal. His defensive mindset is exactly what Arteta wants, and he can take a decent corner. He’s integral to Arsenal, but that’s because he suits the system.
I do struggle to find anything that he does which is at an elite level.
Hendo was similar for us. He didn’t do anything particularly elite, football-wise, but was integral to our team. His leadership and professionalism were second to none.
I don’t think there’s much to choose between them, both flawed players, but both hugely important to their title-winning teams.
{Ed025's Note - for me RSO Rice is an excellent defensive midfielder, the other is well....Jordan Henderson..
16 Jul 2026 16:46:55
Ed025 ????
Take of those blue tinted glasses. Didn't you know, blue light is terrible for your eyes?
{Ed025's Note - im like Superman Ron...i only tell the truth, you might not like what you hear of course mate.. :)
16 Jul 2026 17:05:53
Declan Rice is a central defender pretending to be a midfielder.
{Ed025's Note - does that mean Hendo is a traffic cop pretending to be a footballer MH?...just asking for a friend.. :)
16 Jul 2026 17:17:54
Rice, for me.
16 Jul 2026 17:33:27
Rice is overrated, overpriced and overhyped.
16 Jul 2026 17:40:43
I'd take peak Henderson over every single one of our soft as diarrhoea midfielders right now. Not one of them has his work ethic or leadership.
16 Jul 2026 17:48:59
Rice is a fantastic player, no doubt, but ability isn't everything. Rice hasn't come through anything near like what Hendo has.
Henderson was the captain of a team that was comfortably one of the best in the world for a prolonged period. He wasn't wanted for lack of perceived ability. Remember, we accepted a bid from Middlesbrough for him and he said no. He stayed, turned it around, and, through pure grit and determination, forced his way back into the team and brought the best out of those around him at the same time through his leadership.
No, he wasn't an amazing footballer, even though his passing, vision and crossing are still massively underrated for me, but in those years where the club won everything available he was one of the first names on the team sheet, and I'd say there's a good reason for that.
When Rice can say the same to all that, then I'll concede his naturally superior ability would make me pick him. Until that happens, though, it's Hendo all day, every day for me.
16 Jul 2026 17:54:15
One of them lads has won it all as captain.
16 Jul 2026 17:01:43
Why ask a bitter anything about Liverpool or Liverpool players.Ed025 thinks Gerrard was rubbish, that's all you need to know about his opinion on Liverpool players
{Ed025's Note - i dont think he was rubbish Strom, an odious little irk yes but a decent footballer i would say mate..
16 Jul 2026 18:18:16
When England won it in 1966 (I was 11 then, probably still am!), they had absolute world class players in the "spine of the team" the most important part of any football team:
Banks, Moore, Ball, Bobby Charlton, Geoff Hurst. In every World Cup since, a lack of truly world class players has, and will always be, the reason they will never win it.
Class always beats work rate.
A football question for all concerning the "Spine of the Team" and who was the greatest football manager Liverpool ever will have whose anecdote for stressing the importance of a strong spine was:
"A Football Team is like a Piano."
"It takes Eight men to carry it, and Three to play It" (CH, CM, CF)
16 Jul 2026 18:28:21
I saw Hendi geeing up the players in the water break lately. He was a great captain.
Sorry, lost my train of thought watching Jo Blythe doing weather.
16 Jul 2026 18:46:06
"An odious irk" the hell does that mean. The man was a god on the pitch in Gerrard. Mind you, Everton fans tell me Duncan Ferguson was good at football.
{Ed025's Note - he was your best player when you were in your 30 year barren spell FK, good player though..
16 Jul 2026 18:46:12
Hendo all day. Even today's Hendo at 30 odd.
16 Jul 2026 18:51:38
A traffic cop with every winners medal you can win in club football.
Not too shabby, hey.
16 Jul 2026 18:52:07
Hendo could pick out a pass. He wasn't all sideways (pointing). He was also a proper leader on/off the pitch. I'm not suggesting Rice is a terrible player, he's class, but a prime Hendo would have destroyed Rice.
16 Jul 2026 18:18:18
Ed025 Gerrard was only decent, like saying Usain Bolt could Jog a bit
{Ed025's Note - he stood out in a poor side Strom, a big fish in a small pond mate..
16 Jul 2026 18:24:04
Ed025 is good crac. It's nice to hear his insults ?
{Ed025's Note - those are not insults Ron, it is the gospel according to ED025 mate.. :)
16 Jul 2026 19:50:12
Hard to judge Rice until he gets to play for a more expansive manager. He might be held back by the defensive setup, so far, for me he's a good defensive midfielder, no Rodri, however, he might be better as an all action midfielder like Henderson, but I haven't seen it yet.
16 Jul 2026 20:13:58
In fairness to Rice and Hendo, they're the type of players u only really miss when they're not playing. Key cogs in any successful teams, them sort of players.
Put either at their peak into current LFC team, and u would see a massive improvement in team.
16 Jul 2026 23:51:42
1 thing about Hendo, which was seriously lacking last season, was someone who would call VvD out.
16 Jul 2026 19:56:15
Ed025, delusional if you think Gerrard was only a big fish in a small pond, Madrid, Chelsea even United after him, he could have went any team in the world.Zidane n a few other top players said he was the best player in the world, but let's all listen to a bitter eh ?
{Ed025's Note - we all have our different views on players Strom, i suppose with him being so toxic it clouds my judgement on him mate, if it bothers you so much i will say hes the greatest player the world has ever seen if you want?..
17 Jul 2026 08:12:50
Hendo or Rice? I find it hard to compare because I don't watch much of Rice but I watched a lot of Hendo. I think they're different types of players.
What I will say about Hendo is he was crucial to our success under Klopp, our most successful period in the last 35 years.
17 Jul 2026 09:18:44
Ed025 doesn't bother me what you say about Gerrard, I know and 99% of knowledgeable fans that he was one of the best players ever, you don't know him personally, I know a lot of his family n met him a good few times n not many have a bad word to say about him except he mightn't be as sociable as people want him to be, But as a player he would be worth how many millions today
{Ed025's Note - and thats fine by me mate, its all about opinions in the end Strom...you have yours and i have mine and i can live with that..