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02 Sep 2026 12:07:56
Said it yesterday about Sarr and bad egg. now his agent who is also Camara's has come out giving dogs to Palace and Monaco!
Denying them moves let's say they become superstars and Real come knocking we'd be getting the same crap!
I don't like it one bit.



02 Sep 2026 12:30:43
I’m hoping the Sarr interest has now gone. Far better players out there for a better price.



02 Sep 2026 12:40:41
We needed midfielders.



02 Sep 2026 12:44:52
He is acting in the best interests of his players, it's his job to get his clients the moves they want... What do you want him to do, just let their careers be dictated by the clubs?



02 Sep 2026 12:35:20
He's probably just a bit miffed they didn't move and he didn't get his 10%, or whatever he managed to wangle out of them.
Agents make money when a player moves, this leach will blame anyone he can, for teams hanging on to their players who are contracted to them.



02 Sep 2026 12:58:09
Just go and get Rayan in Jan.



02 Sep 2026 13:03:51
I still don’t like the terminology being used constantly. We “needed midfielders” is not really accurate. We’ve “left Iraola short in midfield” is even less truthful. We have 6 players for 2 positions: Szobo, Grav, Macca, Endo, Nyoni and McConnell.

A more accurate statement for me is the midfield lacks balance and steel. I think we should’ve aimed to sell Mac Allister so we could replace him with someone more mobile and naturally defensive. I made no secret of the fact I wanted Lamine Camara to replace Macca. Anyone wanting him to replace Endo is just delusional though as that just doesn’t work in terms of the finances or getting everyone the playing time they’d want. Many Prem teams have had an older midfielder in the squad as 4th or 5th choice down the years; Henderson at Chelsea, Kovacic at City etc. Years gone by we always had Milner, Arsenal have had guys like Jorginho/Nordgaard, Man United had Eriksen etc.

I really don’t get why people have a problem with Endo. It’s baffling to me, as he is a good player and ultimately Dom, Macca and Grav will alternate as the starting duo. Endo is for the bench and domestic cups. We also seem to be moaning about not moving for other teams' youth players (Lewis-Skelly, Chema Andres etc) whilst we have our own academy producing players who deserve a chance like Nyoni.

All this doesn’t make us short or in need of midfielders, though ultimately it just means we haven’t upgraded on the players we have to achieve better midfield balance. Something I think every fan was in favour of doing, and thus a more than fair criticism of the transfer window. I strongly believe we should’ve moved on Macca and brought in someone who would be a better partner to Grav or Dom. Saying we’re short though just smacks of hyperbole. Anything to incite a bit of panic or drama though, eh.



02 Sep 2026 13:17:09
MK talking absolute sense.
Andoni will wring every drop out of what he has at his disposal.
The issue could be around exhaustion since he demands so much from
his forwards and when Isak gets injured we are thin at CF, although Munoz will
surprise us, I believe.


If Trey and another break through this season we will
look back with glee. This is Koumas' last chance at LFC and a big chance it is.



02 Sep 2026 13:19:18
Depends on what you see in Endo (who hasn't kicked a ball in 2 years) and two 18-year-old kids. If those are your midfield options, then widen it by adding a few more kids from the academy to make it 10 players for 2 positions.


We have had three managers who didn't fancy Endo (including Iraola). If you think fans have a problem then so do the coaches. He is not good enough.



02 Sep 2026 13:23:24
MK, very sensible post.
What is your take on the right back position?
Happy that Aroujo & Gomez can cover until Bradley comes back?



02 Sep 2026 13:33:36
Semantics, MK. Short can mean short of numbers. Short can mean short in quality. Short can mean short in height. We are short in quality for the system (whether it be Slot's or Iraola's).

Endo is crap. Can't run, can't stay fit and can't get the ball out of his feet quick enough. Lovely guy, I am sure.

Re Macca - We could have told his agent to find another club at the start of the summer.

I look forward to seeing Nyoni getting more minutes.



McConnell has been the worst of the kids given an opportunity in preseason. There has been no evidence to suggest he will ever be a Liverpool first team player.

Macca will no doubt run his contract down now for a cut-price or even free move to Spain.

Grav and Szobo will now have to show they have the smarts to play the way Iraola wants. Else, we have some very big contracts to offload in future windows.

tldr: the club have left Iraola short in midfield.



02 Sep 2026 13:17:58
Mk scouser, no you understand perfectly. I think you were in the minority crowd of repeating the "title winning midfield". Don't backtrack now.
It's been stated by nearly everyone on this page that we needed to improve midfield.
I believe I posted more than anyone else about midfield this entire summer.


No one stated we needed numbers. When one mentions short, we let Jones go. So by not improving on what we have whilst also letting Jones go, we've left ourselves short and even weaker.
I'm not repeating myself on what I think of the 3 first teamers available. As the famous edd002 said use the search engine.



02 Sep 2026 13:55:25
If I have six gallons of fuel for my petrol car, but three of those gallons are petrol and the other three are diesel, then effectively I only have three gallons of fuel. Numbers/quantity isn't meaningful if it's not the right type and/or not of sufficient quality.



02 Sep 2026 14:05:20
For me, the whole Sarr thingy just reeks of abject desperation. For starters, we wanted him 6 years ago from Watford, and then nothing.

Suddenly, it seems like someone went to the basement and dusted off this interest from pre-Lockdown period (as if Sarr was still 21) then say, "Hey, buddy. Fancy coming to us after all these years?"

To me, it stunk. Just my take.



02 Sep 2026 14:17:48
How much cash did Chelsea spend on midfielders again? Caicedo, Lavia, Enzo (now sold even after the numerous posts about how much Chelsea have backed Alonso after they went 2-0 up but funnily went quiet after they shipped 3) all could be described as CDMs, yet Chelsea still ship goals for fun. ?‍♂️ We have 6 players fighting for 2 starting spots - 4 prem winners, 1 of them a World Cup winner.

?‍♂️ Will they be able to adapt to AI football - I have no idea, but I think they have earned the right to at least be given a chance to try before I start writing them off - based on us signing a so-called CDM that means 6 players now fighting for one spot, which seems insane to me until we give both them an AI a good run of games.



02 Sep 2026 14:38:35
We had Salah six years ago, OliRed.
We no longer have Salah.



02 Sep 2026 14:57:20
Clay, on RB, I think we should've moved on from Frimpong and signed a new RB. Kounde was my choice as he'd also be a CB option which would've negated the need for Araujo.

Seems like as a club we don't want to block the return pathway for Bradley though.



02 Sep 2026 13:58:14
Is Ron Funk another Harry regen? Must be from all the stuff he's misremembering and also quoting Eds to make his point seem stronger and more relevant.

If you had used the search function like you suggested others do, you would have known that MK has been clamouring for the signing of Camara from the very start of the window. He has been fairly consistent in that actually. And that he'd like Kounde to be brought in.

And like has been mentioned on this page, Nyoni is being seen as the replacement for Jones. Andoni did name drop him as a player he was very impressed with during pre season and he has been on the bench the past two games and even came on to try and make a difference in our last one.

FPF put it nicely. We are not short on numbers but we are short on quality. In an ideal world, we would have moved on both Endo and Macca and brought in at least one midfielder who can sit and play the 6. But we're not in an ideal world and now that the window has closed, we just have to make do until we can do something about it next time.



02 Sep 2026 14:31:13
Ron, if you yourself had used the search function, you'd see I said months ago I wanted Camara to replace Macca. You're upset, I get it. But don't lie or put words in my mouth, please. I have caveated many a debate with the fact that we do still have a title winning midfield trio on our books, but that doesn't mean I wanted them to be the midfield this season. Iraola plays a different system to Slot. Also, Jones going hasn't left us shorter (in terms of numbers at least) than we were because we've moved Nyoni and McConnell up to the first team. Most of our fans thought Jones was terrible, so shouldn't be much shorter in terms of quality either, unless we're now changing the narrative?

Though I agree with FPF that McConnell does not look good enough (he floundered in the pre-season games I watched), where I disagree with FPF, is that Endo isn't crap and he quite clearly can run; albeit not very quickly. That's also hyperbole. As 5th choice behind the 3 obvious players and also Nyoni, I really can't see what the problem is. He will be an impact sub or a Carabao cup player, as well as a very good role model to have in the squad.

Karma, you've just bare-face lied. Klopp did fancy Endo. He started him ahead of Gravenberch in loads of games. Klopp even started Endo in a cup final against Chelsea (a game in which Endo came out on top against a £260m trio of Caicedo, Enzo and Palmer). Slot didn't fancy Endo, that is true and I'd be talking out my backside if I tried to claim anything otherwise. As for Iraola not fancying him, well he has only just walked through the door so we don't know how much he will or won't play Endo yet. So "three managers" not rating him is just a ridiculous thing to say.

RR, that's a dreadful analogy. A better analogy would be you have 3 gallons of 99 Octane Petrol and 3 gallons of 95 Octane Petrol for your Petrol car. The 95 Octane is lower quality but it's still an option, that might result in a lesser performance, but can be used if you run out of the 99 Octane. Ultimately you have 6 gallons still, but 3 of them are better than the other 3. The Diesel analogy would imply that we cannot use the 3 players (Nyoni, McConnell and Endo) at all. That's again, another case of hyperbole unless they're all injured for 12 months and I've missed that news?

Ultimately, I can't win here. People are upset and so they're making irrational statements from a position of heightened emotion. I wanted to sign Camara as much as anyone, but the circumstances simply were not right. We already have 2 players that we cannot register for the Champions League squad. Hughes failed to improve the midfield quality or balance, but Iraola has hardly been left with a lack of options. The simple fact is, he has 6 players for 2 positions and he will have to find a solution from that until at least January.



02 Sep 2026 16:27:53
idk why Endo gets slated so much on here, especially considering how rarely he plays, he's never really disappointed me whenever he's been in our midfield... don't ever want to see him at CB again though.



 
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