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31 Aug 2017 10:53:57
Any truth that juve have made a new bid for emre can?

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17 Jul 2017 11:29:20
Hi eds,

Just heard a rumour that board members at RBL have decided to sell keita?

Any truth in this?

Thanks for the good work.

fred_the_red_10

{Ed002's Note - nothing has changed this morning as far as I know. As I have explained they have made it clear that they do not wish to sell any key players and in discussions with another English side last week they stressed various points about direct contact with players etc.. However, I doubt this will deter Liverpool from making a further offer.}


1.) 17 Jul 2017 12:20:09
Do you think Liverpool are wasting their time? I know the lad seems to have class but a) RB don't need the money. B) RB have stated time and again he is not for sale and won't be leaving and c) I think I read on here while Keita is wanting to join us he would not rock the boat to make it happen. All this being considered would it not make RB look weak and untrustorthy to their own fans if after all the talk he ends up leaving?

{Ed002's Note - I have explained everything I can on this matter.}


2.) 17 Jul 2017 12:30:18
Sorry I have just read through using the search Thanks Ed002.


3.) 17 Jul 2017 13:12:33
The deal will happen. I think just a case of agreeing payment terms. The DOF doesn't want to sell but the other board members see the business sense in selling a player they paid 15 million for last year for 70 million this year. I think it's just a matter of time for this deal and vvd.

{Ed002's Note - There has been no bid accepted at all.}


4.) 17 Jul 2017 14:40:05
Doesn't matter how rich an organisation is, 60 million will always turn heads.


5.) 17 Jul 2017 15:25:58
Do you mean Board members, or bored members (of this forum! )


6.) 17 Jul 2017 15:42:04
No bid accepted yet but I am pretty sure it will be. fingers crossed lads.


7.) 17 Jul 2017 12:27:09
Ed2, how's the head imprint doing on your desk?


8.) 17 Jul 2017 18:16:37
Rangnik the sporting director who is adamant he won't be sold has gone on holiday in a bit of a huff apparently. There are members of the board who are open to a sale at the right price. At least 70m I'd imagine. Even RB won't want to lose 20m on him leaving next season.


9.) 17 Jul 2017 18:52:21
Liverpool may be getting Keita before the end of the transfer window but one is not sure if the guy will blend and make liverpool a better team. something is working for Keita his pint size stature and quick feet draw up similarities between him and Kante so it is easy to presume. He could be the next sensation in Liverpool. Meanwhile, it is not sure.


10.) 17 Jul 2017 16:44:57
I'd be more worried about the permanent palm shaped red mark on Ed2s face Putney 🙈🙈.


11.) 18 Jul 2017 12:42:24
Kante = best player in league! Do me a favour! He is a nice guy and humble. The spoilt brats in the prem couldn't bring themselves to deflate their egos and vote for hazard or mani or kane, Ali. I would take all four of those over kante. Pundits were saying "it's no coincidence that chelsea (with kante) have won the league". Well. yes it is a coincidence. Conte going 352 and the genius of hazard and killer instinct of Costa is what won them the league. Kante did an amazing job in the holding role. He is a true gentleman and a scholar but not the best player in our league. Not best player at Chelsea. It's embarrassing next too Ronaldo and Co. Best player should be the most skillfull players who make things happen. Not the most destructive player who breaks things up.

Put it this way = would you swap him for mane? Coutinio? (That's ridiculous) lallana? Even henderson?


 

 

08 Jul 2017 11:10:48
Any updates on vvd, keita and Robertson?

Appreciate your time.

fred_the_red_10

{Ed002's Note - (a) Liverpool formally withdrew all interest in the player when making their grovelling apology for making an illegal approach and tapping him up. (b) Regardless of Liverpool making an illegal approach and tapping the player up, his club do not wish to sell and have repeated made that very clear. (c) LIverpool remain very keen on signing Andrew Robertson.}


1.) 08 Jul 2017 11:34:56
Ed I take it we have pulled away totally from the first 2 players to focus on others.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool issued a humiliating statement publically in respect of van Dijk. In respect of Keita it has been discussed here over and over.}


2.) 08 Jul 2017 11:59:58
Cheers ed. Hope we move onto other targets. Crystal clear imo.


3.) 08 Jul 2017 13:04:19
Least with us not getting NK we keep couts as only my gut reaction we would have sold Phil had we of signed NK.


4.) 08 Jul 2017 13:07:44
Ed, I know the whole thing is a total embarrassment for the club, I accept that if some don't, but why do so many places have us as favourites to still get VvD?


5.) 08 Jul 2017 13:56:01
Keith, ignore the odds, they know about as much as the papers, it's just a rigged system to get the most money out of punters.


6.) 08 Jul 2017 14:04:37
People hitting the disagree button with me saying we need to accept neither player is happening? Ol let's watch monitor probe low ball all Summer and leave no time to chase anyone else!? Very strange views.


7.) 08 Jul 2017 14:05:49
{Ed002's Note - I expect VVD to leave as his position is untenable. }

eds answer on southampton page probably won't be to us with the cowboys in charge but hope he gets a good move after we snogged with him.


8.) 08 Jul 2017 14:28:57
Maybe if some redcoats were in charge we'd be able to sign VVD, eh Danny?


9.) 08 Jul 2017 14:59:07
Hi Ed 2.

You should cut and paste them answers and whenever the same subject is raised againn Paste, paste, paste,

The repeat offenders would soon get bored with the repeated answer.

By the way I did the Anfield tour last week and did not notice King Kennys name on the stand named in his honour.

Is this to sorted before the season kicks off?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool will have some sort of beano at some point to formally rename the Centenary Stand as the Kenny Dalglish Stand. I am not aware when that has been scheduled for - or even if it has been scheduled.}


10.) 08 Jul 2017 20:38:34
Why on earth would we have sold coutinio to buy kieta? Coutinio is three times the player kieta is. Which player do Barcelona like? And which player do LFC like?
Cannot believe how highly rated kieta is here. He is excellent yes. If we could have got him for 45 mil it would have been ok, still slightly overpriced.


 

 

25 Jun 2017 21:58:41
I've searched for this but can't see anything. I've just heard now that Leipzig have slapped €80m on keita. Anything on this eds?

Looks like Liverpool are being made to spend big for their stupid mistake.

fred_the_red_10

{Ed002's Note - They don't need the money and don't want to sell. Hence a figure that would be too good to turn down.}


1.) 25 Jun 2017 22:18:07
Is he worth that? No.
Do RBL want to sell? No.
Does Keita want to leave? No.
Have the eds said we sustain an interest? No.

Leave it now.


2.) 25 Jun 2017 22:27:52
80m euro is really not that much, when you consider a 70m price tag for VVD.


3.) 25 Jun 2017 22:58:45
Yes they have.


4.) 25 Jun 2017 23:03:07
And now they have quoted a price of 80 mil euros for him indicating he could be sold which is good news.


5.) 26 Jun 2017 00:59:47
I don't know why everybody don't want a player for it cost. This transfer window is very important because we are already very strong and we just need to reinforce our weaknesses (lb cb cm rw) and if we have the money we should pay what it is needed because if we sign all the players we need apart from having a quality squad depth and being ready for all the competition we play I'm sure we will be able to win the league and start our hegemony in this premier league era.
Just 190m more to start our era (vandijk 70m keita 80m mendy 40m)
I know it won't happen but I have hope that we are really close to be successful again.


6.) 26 Jun 2017 08:04:29
At the end of the day, It's not our money, Why are the fans worrying about transfer fees haha.


7.) 26 Jun 2017 08:44:22
The price doesn't matter, it's all relative.
Alun Evans cost us £100,000 from Wolves in 1968.

Eyewateringly ridiculous amounts of money being thrown around, we thought, back then.

Can you imagine what the prices will be i ten years time?
One day a club will pay £1 Billion for a player.


8.) 26 Jun 2017 08:50:24
Whether it is my money or not is a false argument and a non-entity. I don't want my club spending ridiculous sums of money on players who are simply not worth it. Keita has only had one season in a top league in Europe and a 70m fee for such a player regardless of his talent which Keita is indeed talented, is a risk that FSG won't sanction and I support them on that front.

The fact is that Keita is no 50m player and this is coming from someone who has seen him play lots of times. He is very good but is definitely NOT 50m or 70m pound good. Even Mbappe is no 100m player.

RBL don't want to sell. Player does not want to leave and RBL don't need the money. Take a hint, genius! If a girl is sending you these types of signals during courtship and you can't figure it out then I fear for you. Keita nor RBL are just not that into you. Move on and stop being a stage 9 clinger.


9.) 26 Jun 2017 08:54:35
Guess the question is, do we got out and lash big money on one of the brightest centre midfield talents in Europe or do we lash big money (but considerably less) out on someone who isn't a centre midfielder and is nowhere near as good as the primary target. Because the second option is largely what we've been doing for the last 20 years or so and part of the reason we've always fallen short.


10.) 26 Jun 2017 09:06:31
The €80mio was a pricetag that the "Bild" in Germany reported on. The Bild in Germany is like the Sun in England.


11.) 26 Jun 2017 09:09:52
There is no guarantee that Naby Keita will cut it in the EPL and for 80m it is not worth the risk. We have plenty of quality MF's. Gini, Hendo, Lallana, Can and it looks like Coutinho will be taking an MF role as well next season so for 80M euros I would forget it.


12.) 26 Jun 2017 10:23:30
I jaye mancs no doubt about that but what madinho said last year is true. no sense of Money these days.


13.) 26 Jun 2017 10:41:32
Fairenough Brussels, but money in football is mad. Is anybody worth 50m or 100k+ a week to live football? No. But that's how it is.

You have to take The massive figures being thrown with a pinch of salt ha. It's how the game is now. id rather Liverpool bought the brightest players out there.

Regarding rbl not wanting to sell, Everybody has a price. Clearly you ain't that good at courting 👍🏼
Fsg were going to sanction a mega deal for VVD, why wouldn't they do it for a younger player who bossed the German league?

Everybody has opinions and I respect that. But I want my club to sign the best players out there, regardless of the fees.


14.) 26 Jun 2017 13:32:35
Can someone tell me what type of midfielder he is please and who he is similar to. i've never seen him play, is he box to box, deep lying playmaker, dm or what. thanks in advance.


15.) 26 Jun 2017 13:56:19
Why would RBL suddenly slap this price tag on him, if he has no wish to leave?

Also he can leave for less next summer, due to his release clause, apparently.

This may run on an on, but this move by RBL suggests he may well be leaving this summer.

Is he worth it? Hard to tell. The transfer fees have suddenly gapped up by a huge margin this summer: last year's 40 million seems to be this year's 70 million.

{Ed002's Note - Any release clause is of NO RELEVANCE TO LIVERPOOL whatsoever.}


16.) 26 Jun 2017 14:56:45
i think this rumour was started by an Italian journalist of dubious reputation. I think Naby Keita would fit the role Klopp had earmarked for Coutinho next season. No way would either of them want to sit and watch the other play most of the big games. In theory NB could come in and Couts go but I cannot see this happening and certainly hope it isn´t happening. All will be revealed in a few weeks and we have a CL qualifier in mid August, barely 7 weeks away, so have to have things done and dusted by then.


17.) 26 Jun 2017 15:29:35
I think we have a good chance of landing kieta. I would expect the fee to be closer to 40 mil than 70/ 80. I'd be a much happier fan when we sort out our defensive problems ie cb lb. Anything other than that is bonus as we have one of the most creative and deadly attacks in the world.


18.) 26 Jun 2017 15:43:26
Raphael Honigstein which to my knowledge is one of the most trustworthy sources in Germany, has said the he wants to leave and is available, but the price remains the same as they do not need nor want to sell.


19.) 26 Jun 2017 16:53:50
The German journalist is highly regarded so I take him at his word. Now, RBL don't need to sell so they are happy with taking us to the cleaners for a player who is like it or not, unproven in Europe and has had only one good season in Germany. Those are the facts. Now if we want to pay for such a talented player then we should pay what we think he is worth and that is 50m (even tho that is too high, IMO but I'll bite) . I know the TW is crazy with crazy money being thrown around but that does not mean we should do the same. I was for Salah coming for 35m to 40m cos he is proven and more proven than Keita is so how can people explain that we should pay 70m for a player who is less proven than Salah? This is just a simple and logical question. H will be a big risk, even bigger than Pogba who was and is proven before he got signed for 89m. That's my beef.

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with Pogba. Did you obsess about comparing in the showers at school?}


20.) 26 Jun 2017 20:02:48
What is 'the sun' you talk about, never heard of it?

{Ed025's Note - its a big yellow round ball in the sky.. :)


21.) 26 Jun 2017 20:47:19
£70m for VVD and £70m for Keita. Liverpool are going to break all kinds of transfer records as well as probably having the highest wage bill in Europe.

It is ok though, not the fans money even if LFC cannot actually afford that kind of expenditure :-)


22.) 26 Jun 2017 22:10:14
If it's the right player we should pay the money. How many were saying the money we spent on mane and wanjama (spelling) in particular was way over the top last year!


23.) 26 Jun 2017 22:37:45
Fans have a short memory when the club was on the verge of bankruptcy. H and G borrowed money left right and centre from the banks to keep the club running when the club could not afford it.

There is much more money in football now but that does not mean LFC can sustain a transfer window of £200m plus mountains of wages.

The club is taking on debt under FSG. Luckily not through the banks :-) LFC's debt continues to grow, FSG fit the bill. Not a very healthy situation to be in, for FSG or the LFC.


 

 

 

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13 Sep 2017 19:41:58
Just wondering, could be illness or injury. But why isn't keita in the Leipzig squad for the game tonight?

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1.) 13 Sep 2017 20:31:15
Got injured the weekend.


 

 

31 Aug 2017 16:34:45
Match the bid, he prefers us to arsenal!

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1.) 31 Aug 2017 16:41:59
92 million are you mad? He's probably the biggest panic buy in history. Let arsenal's pay that much. He looks like a very good player for 21. Could turn into a great player.
What we need is a centre back.


2.) 31 Aug 2017 16:43:17
Especially if pipco leaving we need cover match bid, if not I would have mahrez vision pace dribbling premiership winner could b a dark horse, I am stunned we ain't after a cb obviously we want vvd, wat bout ben gibson for cover, the squad need it.


3.) 31 Aug 2017 16:50:12
Deal off (Lemar to Arsenal) apparently lol.
This is utter madness, the crazy window with Carroll and Suarez has been dwarfed by this one - literally changing minute to minute.
This is from the Liverpool Echo by the way.


4.) 31 Aug 2017 16:59:56
Mahrez is typical panic buying. There is a reason no one has bid what LC want for him.


 

 

28 Aug 2017 14:41:05
Keita agreed to Liverpool for next summer?

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15 Aug 2017 23:26:07
Some positives to take into saturdays game. one being wilf zaha is apparently injured and out for a number of weeks. might have a little less to do defensively haha.

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1.) 16 Aug 2017 04:46:58
At least you reflect the mentality of a LFC fan that has no faith in his own team (which is understandable) . Relying on flashy players like Zaha getting injured to have a better chance of beating teams like Palace shows how far we are off the top clubs.


 

 

08 Aug 2017 18:26:11
With coutinho seemingly about to leave, do you think Liverpool will go back in for asensio?

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{Ed001's Note - no chance of getting him.}


1.) 08 Aug 2017 18:59:47
Im guessing Luan is off the table as well?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know.}


 

 

 

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06 Aug 2017 23:21:56
Reminds me of the time we bought Andy Carroll thinking he was the dogs.

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20 Jul 2017 11:26:50
I don't think Can will stay around. I think if Juve come in for him he will go.

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19 Jul 2017 11:45:37
Hearing that Liverpool are preparing a third bid for keita of over 70mil, any news?

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18 Jul 2017 07:39:35
Here's to you Andy Robertson we will love you more than moreno, ohwowowo.

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01 Jul 2017 13:21:50
BR. rudiger is not as good as you are making out, vvd has been outstanding since he's been in the prem, he's much better than rudiger! We need to spend big to win the prem simple.

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30 Aug 2017 18:44:40
Just think about your post. Swansea, if he was good enough for a top team to want him to loan they would've.

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28 Aug 2017 15:11:43
Emre won't sign a contract apparently, smart buisness by Liverpool which would see keita come in as can leaves. As much as all of us would like can to sign a contract I don't see him doing so. can lead a horse to water but.

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27 Aug 2017 20:59:01
What game was you watching? He was outstanding today. pressed well, passed well, tackled well and lead by example.

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19 Jul 2017 16:17:52
Hendo will take pens.

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11 Jul 2017 23:10:44
Why are you lot comparing markovic and lallana? They are two different players with two different playing styles?

I for one would like to see the ox given a chance, 23 mind?! Plenty of time to learn and adapt his game and play games.

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