07 Aug 2025 08:02:51
It's clear PSR needs to be looked at. In- order to help clubs like Villa Newcastle and a few others. If they don't the situation will stay the same.
I feel their frustration! We have been lucky to get fsg to guide us. But they had to benefit of our history. Huge worldwide fan base.
What if there was a way of making a sliding scale. The clubs like city/ Chelsea have spent without the fan base. and have been left as a result with a bigger world wide base.
Some clever people could come up with a way to allow clubs to spend a bigger % of their wealth ( affordable and open) over a set period, in- order to level up! A premier league with 10-15 teams having a chance of actualy winning it would be incredible. Before I get jumped on by the know it alls I totally understand what and why PSR is and why it was introduced. It clearly had some success but it needs tweaking. Newcastle Everton Villa Forrest Leeds should all be given a set amount of windows to get more competitive. Then level off once they have reached a set %.
07 Aug 2025 08:25:44
It won't work
Self sustaining is the only way otherwise more and more clubs will fold.
07 Aug 2025 08:38:57
If I understand what your saying correctly you would look for a system where the club's that can currently spend have a cap on spending whereas those with restrictions would have the shackles taken off?
Clubs shouldn't be punished for their success. With this model you might as well create a Billionares league where it doesn't really matter who finishes where because the rest would have absolutely no chance i. e Saudi. Part of the joy of sport is the underdog spirit.
Should those in track events give the others a head start because they had better training facilities?
Should Usyk have let Dubois land a few clean shots before going to work?
The Saudis bought Newcastle knowing the restrictions and it's up to them what they do with it.
07 Aug 2025 08:59:53
Under current rules Popular clubs will always stay popular and other clubs won’t ever compete.
No way does the likes of Villa and Newcastle etc grow their fan base by 300 million people to be able to spend money their owners already have.
We’re an exceptionally well run club but you can see why other supporters and clubs aren’t happy with PSR.
07 Aug 2025 09:06:21
I really don’t get it when I hear people feeling sorry for the likes of villa and Newcastle.
Villa and Newcastle fans will do of
Course.
They’ve both qualified for champions league in recent seasons having been nowhere near to doing so for a while.
They’ve therefore been able to outperform under new owners v their recent history but the rules are there to stop clubs being allowed to do a Man City and buying anyone they want whenever they want.
The current system isn’t perfect but nobody can argue it’s made the league more balanced. A system that requires some kind of balance between revenues and expenditure makes sense and exists in every aspect of life.
07 Aug 2025 09:07:14
Pretty sure i read somewhere last week Newcastle have spent as much as us over the last 3 r 4 years, their probably is that that they don't have money to spend. They obviously do its just none of the 100 odd players they've targeted this window want to join them.
07 Aug 2025 09:07:23
PSR doesn't stop them investing in infrastructure ie training and facilities and they are yet to do so after years in charge. Wonder why?
07 Aug 2025 09:21:31
Rules are rules we are well within those so who cares about another team as I certainly don’t
Up the champs.
07 Aug 2025 09:31:39
Self sustaining is the only way otherwise more and more clubs will fold.
Newcastle / Villa / Brighton are all self sustaining if they limit their spending. But they would win Jack rubbish with it.
If you want to win trophy, you got to spend!
07 Aug 2025 09:36:46
Everton are a good example of why PSR needs to be in force. Moshiri just kept blindly spending until he nearly took them out of existence.
Without PSR there will be success stories but there will be a lot more clubs that go under whilst trying to make that leap.
It has to be controlled both from a business perspective and from a sporting one. It has to be fair also, you can’t have a country owning a club and spending whatever they want it will kill the game. When the only way to compete is to have mega rich owners and pay £1m per week to your players then the game is dead.
07 Aug 2025 09:39:29
The rules are there to protect the clubs. They have to have a sustainable business model not just survive off handouts from rich owners. What if the circumstances change and the club is suddenly relying on money from external sources just to survive?
The owners should be focussing their money on the stadium, training facilities, infrastructure, worldwide marketing, youth setup and investment in the local area to grow the club naturally and set it up for long term success rather than the 'boom or bust' approach of trying to buy instant success.
Even FSG did this at Liverpool and we were already a global club.
07 Aug 2025 09:39:38
Here's an idea, use the wealth they have to invest in infrastructure such as training facilities, academy facilities, sports fitness experts etc and development within over a 5-10 year period.
The whole point of PSR is to stop clubs spending beyond their means and risk folding.
07 Aug 2025 10:03:28
You can spend as much as you want on infrastructure without it being relevant to this. So Newcastles owners if my understanding is correct could build a multi billion pound stadium and develop surrounding area and do what Spurs have done to an extreme level and raise their revenues through this. Or invest stupid money in state of the art academy and training facilities and try and develop youth players to use or sell on to comply with PSR.
I agree it may not be fully ideal and I would even allow for a certain amount to be allowed to be injected every year as a obligation free investment, ie no paying it back or conditions on it. But this would just inflate market so personally if you were to have this in place I think their would need to be more stringent rules around the wage percentage of revenue which as far as I know just gets overall grouped with all running costs.
But a lot of the moaning is just that moaning, what we do to Newcastle supposedly for isak they do the same for Wissa or Gordon when Everton were in financial trouble. Every club is going to try and exploit situations to be the most favourable for them that's just life, most clubs just want a get big quick scheme again like most people do in life but Liverpool and Tottenham over the last 20 years I think have shown it is possible to responsibly raise your revenues over time and compete.
07 Aug 2025 11:09:17
So we want to punish clubs for being well run and having large world wide fan bases to help clubs that are/ do not.?
07 Aug 2025 11:37:09
When you have yearly the big spenders invited to play in the world club championship, which brought in millions of pounds . I am on about Chelsea and man city this only gives them even more earnings to buy the best players when they spend millions most seasons anyway.
What would of happened had man city had won the World Club Championship with their 115 charges hanging over them and they were relegated? Forest and villa should of been selected as previous winners before chelsea and man city every come any were near a trophy.
07 Aug 2025 13:42:00
That is assuming that Newcastle could turn Seskos head by offering him significantly more wages than ManU can.
I think other clubs just need to wise up. We can talk about our history etc but we have to be real. It hasn’t exactly attracted us the worlds biggest and brightest names has it.
07 Aug 2025 14:24:39
No faith but it has allowed us to sign very good players even when we aren’t in the Champions League or anywhere near challenging for top honours.
We’ve never really been a club that goes after world stars anyway, not in the way City and Chelsea have done over the past couple of decades.
We still managed to sign Collymore, Kewell, Torres, Suarez, Thiago, Keita, Alisson etc over the years who had their choice of suitors.
Had we not been who we are we never would’ve got Klopp either. Playing for Liverpool is a draw because we are such a big name. Nobody other than a Geordie grows up wanting to play for Newcastle.