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12 Jan 2022 12:11:15
With Newcastle reportedly paying Chris Woods' £25m release clause, any chance they're interested in Origi?!

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{Ed002's Note - I would not expect Origi to be sold this month.}


1.) 12 Jan 2022 13:11:22
While we might be signing a striker this window to cover the Alcon, we would surely be fools to let 1 of our 4 recognised ones depart. Those calling for Origi to depart this window are deluded.


2.) 12 Jan 2022 14:32:05
Origi is nvr fit plays one misses then he’s hardly reliable!


3.) 12 Jan 2022 15:11:29
Was more tongue in cheek for all you sensible Sally's out there. I was more highlighting the fact that Newcastle are rumoured to pay over £20m for a 30 year old who has scored 3 goals in 17 appearances yet our players are deemed 'over priced'


4.) 12 Jan 2022 15:28:10
£20mil was the buy out clause I’m led to believe.
They had to pay it and I doubt Burnley were too keen on letting him go.


5.) 12 Jan 2022 15:34:21
Burnley getting the better deal there. mmmn a striker that doesn't score goals. Origi is a much better striker in my humble opinion.


6.) 12 Jan 2022 15:50:59
Pot lay, surely be fools to sell him now or lose him for free in the summer?


7.) 12 Jan 2022 19:10:20
He’s worth more to us for the remainder of the season than the pittance we’d get on transfer fee. Who could we realistically buy at this stage to replace Origi on the cheap? Literally no one is the answer.

There’s not one striker out there available at a price we can afford who is better than him right now. If he goes on a fee in the summer, that’s fine. It’s not a lot that we’ve lost.


8.) 12 Jan 2022 20:04:25
He may well of scored some important goals and some fans might wear tinted specs because of this but he’s poor at best. Ask Ed 25 if he’d have him at Everton, I don’t need too I know what his answer will be.

{Ed001's Note - Ed025 thought Digne was the best left back in the world a few weeks ago, so why would anyone ask him about a player playing for Liverpool when he never sees anything good in Liverpool players anyway? What a bizarre way to back up your opinion.}


9.) 12 Jan 2022 22:36:48
Chris Woods : Burnley to Newcastle
Divock Origi : Liverpool go Burnley.

Origi gets game time and can still live in the area he is settled in.

Before the slanging match about Div recommences I would add this pure speculation on my part with no evidence whatsoever, more a case of 2 + 2 = 4 😁😁.

{Ed025's Note - i like it though mate..


10.) 13 Jan 2022 07:53:39
Again the question is Pegleg, for the pittance we’d get for Origi, and then after various disbursements have been paid, who can we afford to bring in to replace him? As we’ll get between £5m and £7m at most given that he’s in the last 6 months of his contract. Which won’t help us in the games that Salah and Mane are away. Fact is that he’s worth more here right now than a few million quid in the transfer coffers.


11.) 12 Jan 2022 22:45:08
Ok, ask ed14 if he’d have him at Arsenal. My point being a lot of red fans over hype him because some of the goals he’s scored. I’ve never hidden the fact I don’t think he’s good enough.

{Ed014's Note - err NO 😂


 

 

19 Aug 2021 10:00:35
Morning Ed002, I remember you saying LFC had interest in Hoppe from Schalke and it is now being reported that Everton could sign him for as little as £4m. Have we acted on our interest and would he be considered a player to challenge for a starting spot, I don't know much about him (MK - feel free to report! )?

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{Ed002's Note - Matthew Hoppe (S) American youngster has been advised to stay in Germany although Schalke are likely sell him in the summer. However, he has attracted interest from a number of sides including Everton, Barcelona and Spurs and the feeling is in the States that FSG might look to having him recruited for Liverpool as he is one of the up-and-coming American players. Certainly, clubs have been scouting him and recent form has been good. I don't see that he would be a starter for any of the leading clubs and unless paying well over the odds a Work Permit may be an issue in England.}


1.) 19 Aug 2021 10:31:16
I think at £4m it’s worth a punt. Loan him back out to Schalke so he gets regular first team football and go from there.

{Ed002's Note - That is not going to happen.}


2.) 19 Aug 2021 11:19:57
With our transfer budget. It’s No hoppe.


3.) 19 Aug 2021 11:52:33
Not a Hoppe in hell we'd sign him!


4.) 19 Aug 2021 14:34:59
Thanks Ed, interesting take on the FSG feelings towards the signing. Are they pushing LFC as a market in the US? If so, a signing like Hoppe would attract fan interest State side.

{Ed002's Note - The feeling in the US is that they should recruit an American player if they can.}


5.) 19 Aug 2021 14:53:17
Should have bought dest when he was in Holland and moved Trent into midfield if that’s the case. Could probably get him from Barcelona now with all their money troubles.


6.) 19 Aug 2021 15:47:38
Interesting on American players. Big fan of Weston Mckennie from Juve. Would be a nice addition to the midfield. Good Gini replacement and I think Juve are open to offers.

{Ed002's Note - He has only moved this summer.}


7.) 19 Aug 2021 16:10:47
Christian Pulisic would have been our best American option.


8.) 19 Aug 2021 16:48:30
I really like Hoppe. Young and with a good motor. Was the best player on the US squad during the Gold Cup in my opinion.

I tend to agree that staying in Germany may be long term, but it would be fun to see him in England like Sargent.


9.) 19 Aug 2021 19:56:51
The US must be a huge potential talent pool?
Massive population and many awesome athletes, albeit soccer is far from number one sport out there.
But, with the game growing, I can really see the US being a future source of talent.
I’d certainly like to see FSG look at this, if they’re not already doing so.


10.) 19 Aug 2021 20:53:49
If only that Clint Dempsey transfer had come off!


11.) 20 Aug 2021 00:44:21
Juicer, believe it or not it’s the most played sport in the US by a long shot. We did coin the phrase “soccer mom”. I know it had the most registered players over any other sport for year after year. I think the biggest problem is that as kids get older and into high school (14/ 15 years of age) the sport isn’t as attractive for nailing down scholarships etc., sports in general here is a huge business within the under 18’s for both boys and girls. Sadly many of the parents think their kids will get a scholarship for college but in reality few do, and many of the scholarships aren’t even a drop in the bucket. My wife is going to Bard College in NY, she got a full scholarship, definitely not an athletic one. The tuition there is $75k per year…. that’s not a typo. So most kids go into baseball/ softball/ basketball/ football/ golf…golf is a big one too….


 

 

19 Aug 2014 13:12:59
So apparently Suarez went for £65 million quid, not £75m. Absolute outrage, Ayre should be sacked, as well as Rodgers, and Gerrard and the lady who makes the teas at Melwood while we are at it

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{Ed002's Note - The total amount that went to Liverpool after a small payment to Ajax, converted in to Sterling at today's rate, is a £62M and change. There would then be a few other costs that the club has to pay - and that would need to be deducted. I did explain this at the time, so can we finally now put this to bed.}


1.) 19 Aug 2014 14:14:47
Thanks a lot for the figure ed
hope it finally ends all the suarez figures saga

{Ed002's Note - It is actually the same figure I gave at the time, but it has now appeared in the UEFA database.}


2.) Alot of us don't really factor in agent fees and a lot of these fees are documented in the annual reports. In some cases, there weren't. In the case of Suarez, we do not know what the proportions were. Even if it was 75m, LFC won't get 75m in total and I imagine something in the line of 65m would sound rather reasonable.

{Ed002's Note - Barcelona were responsible for the agent fees as buyers. You are making numbers up.}


3.) 19 Aug 2014 15:14:57
Is the UEFA database something that is publicly accessible, Ed002? Doesn't seem so as I can't seem to find it if it is?

{Ed002's Note - It is not in the public domain but those that provide the start of season data to Transfermarkt use that data. It is maintained as part of a commercial database that has to be purchased (newspapers, clubs, television companies, press agencies etc. buy it). It is maintained on a regular basis although some (like Transfermarkt) don't take the updates so I would not entirely rely on their data.}


4.) 19 Aug 2014 15:17:51
Yet again another reason why we never ask figures on the forum, when will the lads totally understand that this is not an easy issue to understand if not in the thick of things, thanks for the response though Ed002

{Ed002's Note - As a reminder for transfer fees, what is paid by the buying club would typically include:
(a) Transfer fee - the big number.
(b) Any levy applied by the local FA – 5% for the EPL.
(c) Tax due on the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable.
(d) Agent fees – this may be to one or more agents (as an example, Liverpool have spent £25M plus VAT on agent fees over the past three years leading to this window).
(e) Tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(f) Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches(what do you mean you have a super agent?) .
(g) Tax due on the Intermediary fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the Intermediary bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(h) Signing on fee to the player (possibly including non-reclaimable VAT if the player is VAT registered).
(i) Legal fees.
(j) VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable.
(k) Moving/relocation costs for the player.
(l) VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable.
(m) Paying up insurance costs to the selling club (sometimes waived).

What is paid by the selling club would typically include:
(a) If the player is under 24, a Solidarity contribution paid to his previous clubs responsible for his training - this is 5% of the transfer fee received.
(b) Any monies owed to the player if he did not request a transfer – again this is 5% of the transfer fee received.
(c) Any monies owed to the player in terms of his contract (typically outstanding owed wages (not future wages) and bonuses).


5.) 19 Aug 2014 16:44:04
Big deal, I used to care about how much we spend and wages for the club and ect. But to be fair we are not the owners, we don't spend the money ourselves and also we don't even get to pick our targets. So why do we care?

{Ed002's Note - You should care that the club is well run from a financial perspective. Portsmouth, Leeds, etc..}


6.) 19 Aug 2014 17:40:34
They are professional business men, funding their own money. They are the best people for it. the person who will be most angry in losing millions is the board more than the fans its there money lol they will do what's best for own company. no need to worry.


7.) Suarez as gone its time to move on. I think ed2 said at the time the only one to blame why we didn't get more for Suarez was the man himself and his behavior. As I say time for a new star to be born.


8.) 19 Aug 2014 19:28:17
Thanks, Ed002. Makes sense.


9.) 19 Aug 2014 23:09:28
So we only got 15m more for Suarez than Chelsea got for for David luiz.Sounds wrong but a player that wants to go and tends to get himself in trouble too much 40m profit we will take that and move on imo.

{Ed002's Note - I am pretty certain that this is nothing to do with Chelsea. Why this embarrassing obsession?}


10.) 20 Aug 2014 04:13:40
Ed002, I seem to recall at the time of the Suarez transfer you said the fee was £72 million give or take a few hundred thousand £'s.

{Ed002's Note - It was £63M and that was discussed at the time.}


11.) 20 Aug 2014 11:50:27
There is no obsession with Chelsea Ed002 I was simply making sense of transfer prices of players 1 being 1 of the best players in the world and the other being average imo, but I do think Suarez behaviour brought our price down its just luiz did leave Chelsea so they got mentioned

{Ed002's Note - The price of a central defender sold by Chelsea has no relevance to the price of a striker sold by Liverpool nor the height of the Delhi Dynamos' goalkeeper.}


 

 

19 Aug 2014 11:18:32
Hi Ed/s, what's happening with Luis Alberto? I see Llori has gone on loan, any news on Alberto? I would be quite interested to see him get some cup games

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{Ed002's Note - He has gone. Moved to Malaga for a year and then I would think will be sold next summer.}


1.) If he has a really good season, do you still think we'll sell him ed?

{Ed002's Note - I really don't think he is in the plans going forward any more than the majority of the players Rodgers has purchased.}


2.) I thought he was one for the future? Any idea what happened EDs?

{Ed002's Note - My views on many of the purchases of BR have been explained. Take the search engine for a run.}


3.) I would add Ilori, Assaidi and Borini to the 'weird transfer decisions' pile along with Sahin. Not sure what the deal is with Sakho either. Have to agree that thus far, by and large, we seem to spend a fair amount of money rather ineffectively.


4.) I'd like to see Llori given a chance at Liverpool, he's only 20/21. I've got a lot of Spanish mates, Granada and Sevilla fans mainly, and they feel he has a lot of potential. Can't say I have seen much of him myself though.


5.) Luis Alberto was done for drink driving as well - not a great way to endear yourself to the coaching staff.


6.) I believe Llori is considered "one for the future" and possibly for next season.
I think the hope is he pushes on while at Boudreaux and can possibly stake a claim next season.

On another note. I have to agree that most of BR signings haven't worked out and not surprised a committee make the decisions now.

Eds, do you think that BR gives a wish list to the committee or possibly just a list of positions that need strengthening? Does it then just mean the committee are the "directors of football" and didn't Rodgers not want that when he was at appointed?


7.) Ilori imo.


 

 

06 Aug 2014 13:14:12
Manquillo signed on loan. 2 years or one?

stuie_boy

1.) Two year loan with the option to buy after the first year


2.) 06 Aug 2014 13:46:58
2 with an option to buy at the end of year one

Very strange


3.) Initially 2 years but with an option to buy after the first year


4.) 06 Aug 2014 14:00:18
2 Years. Liverpool have the option to make it permenant on a fee after one year.


5.) That is a strange one. In his interview he seemed to hint that he wants to stay 'for many years'.


6.) Read elsewhere we have the option to buy after the second year, Atletico have the option to pay a penalty and take the player back after 1 year. No idea if that's true or not though.


7.) Don't think its that strange, other than why AM would want to let him go if he is so good - maybe he always dreamed of the EPL?

Clearly Liverpool & Manquillo expect it to be a long term stay, but we have an option not to buy him if he doesn't perform.


 

 

 

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02 Mar 2022 10:32:54
On a lighter note, the BBC have been doing a Podcast on 'Wunderkids', with the idea you have a blank cheque to sign the best up and coming talent. but avoiding the likes of the well-known names like Haaland, Mbappe etc. They are creating an 11-a-side team and I think they have done 4 so far. It is really interesting as it is shining a light on some unknown kids tipped to be future stars. Worth a listen/ read.

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1.) 02 Mar 2022 16:19:20
Yeah seen that it’s on three at moment Alvarez (who City signed), Gravenbaach of Ajax and Florian Wirtz was last weeks.


 

 

05 Feb 2022 14:14:21
The more I see of Bowen, the more I think how good a fit he'd be at LFC. Great, quick feet and also has a bit of pace to him. Would be a shrewd signing if we went for him.

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1.) 05 Feb 2022 15:00:26
Yes I am watching him also brilliant player grafter also, must say I am imagining fabihno and declan rice with diaz, jota, mane and salah infront of them . Rice is a serious midfielder .


2.) 05 Feb 2022 15:07:21
Think it's time for upgrading our midfield then forwards unless we loose couple of 1st team attacking players.


3.) 05 Feb 2022 15:45:46
If we lost taki, origi, ox, keita which is a possibility we should definitely bring in a reliable midfielder with quality . Then if reports are true which I am preying fabio carvalho might have his heart set on us which will evolve our attack and midfield with his ability too attack and press .


4.) 05 Feb 2022 20:42:43
In addition to the above, the fact that he is homegrown makes him more attractive for us because it is an issue to be addressed. We've registered only 24 players for the UCL, again, we don't have that 8th homegrown player. Yes, I'm aware there are youngsters that can fill in, but it's still an issue.

And if Bowen is brought in, after just having signed Diaz, it's clear at least one of Mane, Firmino and Salah is leaving.


5.) 05 Feb 2022 21:35:17
Considering that Bowen is now 25 and has never played (a) CL or (b) full international football, how much do we Liverpool fans think he’s worth and how much do we think that West Ham would ask for his transfer?
I suspect that there’d be a considerable disparity between the former and latter values?


6.) 05 Feb 2022 21:57:57
ArAy1969, the fact that he is homegrown and WH don’t need to sell would make him severely expensive, man. Besides, we need a revamp in midfield more than anything else esp after the Diaz signing, IMO.


7.) 06 Feb 2022 08:42:44
He must be leaving in the summer as he was thumping the hammers badge on his shirt after scoring yesterday. Sure sign of a defection!


8.) 06 Feb 2022 09:08:10
Bowen’s a decent player, right enough.
But he’s the same age as Diaz, without his football c. v.
In theory, I’d say he should cost significantly less but if West Ham are asking upwards of £45m or £50m even, that’s too much I feel.
What’s great about this Liverpool set up though, they look for value in a new player and invariably find it, so who knows?


9.) 06 Feb 2022 10:51:33
We just signed Diaz so we are fully stocked for the front three now so long as none of the big hitters leave this summer.


10.) 06 Feb 2022 12:16:18
Juicer, I would guess that West Ham would ask for 60 Million, and I don't think his value is beyond 25 Million. Perhaps 30 if you insist on adding a homegrown premium.


 

 

30 Dec 2021 14:15:32
If we thought our Ed002 player list was impressive, head over to the Chelsea page! Excellent break down by Ed and also details what may be required to get Haaland. The numbers are crazy. As always, thanks Ed.

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1.) 30 Dec 2021 18:52:07
He is looking for a million euros a week in wages. Crazy money.


2.) 30 Dec 2021 23:49:12
they could sell Lukaku and Werner to fund it.


 

 

11 Nov 2021 13:30:23
As it's a slow news day, can anyone give a run down of how the players are doing on loan? Anyone see much of Ben Davies to comment on how he has done?

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1.) 11 Nov 2021 16:03:50
Not really followed any of them apart from Seppy at preston from reports and a few highlights I've seen they are really happy with him he has played a lot of his football there at RB/ RWB I believe his last few games he has started at CB, only other one I can think of is Glatzel got two goals and a assist last week.


2.) 11 Nov 2021 16:52:09
I can vouch for that. My son lives near Preston so takes his lad to watch them. He said that VDB is a class above anything else in the team, even when playing out of position at wing back. He’s beefed up as well and is a proper unit now.


3.) 11 Nov 2021 18:53:36
I watched him at Bournemouth game and he looked decent. Good on the ball and calm.


4.) 11 Nov 2021 19:37:02
Ben Woodburn got a couple last for hearts the second in particular was a nice finish. I believe glatzels 2 goals recently were his first but he's played predominantly out wide. Think Davies is a regular starter for Sheffield utd. Ojo not tearing up many trees.

I know leighton Clarkson has so far made 6 championship appearances for Blackburn. I know his debut was considered to have went well not sure on how he's progressed since.


 

 

20 Oct 2021 11:13:34
On a side note, it's good to see Solanke doing so well for Bouremouth this year. Was a tough time for him at LFC but looks like he's foung a good place.

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1.) 20 Oct 2021 12:23:46
On the flipside I'm kinda gutted for how things are going for Brewster, big things expected and he can't even get on the pitch at the bottom of the championship.


2.) 20 Oct 2021 12:57:58
Yeah, so much promise around him wasn't there. Still very young at 21, so hopefully things work out for him. I think we put in a buy-back clause of £40m from memory as well.

{Ed002's Note - No, there is no buy back clause. There was a sell on clause that Liverpool owed to Chelsea.}


3.) 20 Oct 2021 13:20:13
Ah ok, thanks Ed002. I did very nearly type 'I'm sure Ed002 will correct me on this. '!

Ed002, by the way, great shout on the Armagnac Castarède, I went for the 1980, very nice, though I do still think Delord nicks it!


 

 

 

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10 May 2022 12:01:56
If Mane leaves, and it's a big if, we will receive a fee based on what the selling club value him at and what the buying club think is good value, so let's not pretend any of us know who will pay what. It wasn't that long ago a 33 year old Ronaldo moved for over €100m.

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14 Apr 2022 11:25:58
I thought Matip was the ball watcher who is constantly caught out with balls over the top. I don't get where this dislike for Gomez comes from - before his injury him and VVD were the main CB partnership and he didn't put a foot wrong. Personally, I still think Gomez is a better CB than Matip and Konate.

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17 Mar 2022 18:38:02
Gavi has made it clear he is Barcelona through and through. doesn't he also have a fairly large buy out clause with Barcelona looking to sign him to an even bigger one ASAP? Excellent player though and very highly thought of.

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07 Feb 2022 13:54:24
I think Klopp will likely take a sabbatical from the game personally whilst he waits for the next project. He doesn't seem the type to rush into jobs. Napoli is a good shout - historic team with great past success and fan base-definitely a Klopp project.

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19 May 2022 08:31:13
I really wanted to avoid having a day on this as it usually turns into a merry go round of nonsense. Actually, there is a lot wrong with AW and MK Scousers post. To keep it brief, AW you compare going to another country and cry about their laws (Singapore and chewing gum) yet then talk about these players almost doing that. They're not, last I heard, a player took a stand for their beliefs and wasn't exactly standing on the soap box spewing hatred for the homosexuality etc. If he was, then that is a completely different matter obviously.
MK, I think you're argument is somewhat narrow minded in the fact that you very obviously don't appreciate the power an upbringing can have on individuals. These people have been raised their whole childhood to believe certain things, with threats of violence and long term imprisonment hanging over their heads. There are gay people living in these countries, forced to hide their true selves in fear. The issue runs much deeper and personally, this is why you don't involve politics in football. Football is an international game, and forcing individual countries politics onto players will never end well.

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16 May 2022 11:56:07
Great Scott Marty!

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15 May 2022 10:14:29
ArAy it was tongue in cheek but with a serious tinge, if that's allowed by your rule book of the LFC Banter site? But OK, let's give a squad place and a high salary to a 36 year old who barely plays because he's a good role model or offer him a coaching role ona vastly reduced salsty which in turn frees up a spot for a youngster to come through and learn from him. or is that misinformation too?

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14 May 2022 15:27:00
I think £200,000 per week just to tell off some naughty footballers is a bit much. We should just offer him a coaching role instead of a playing contract.

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11 May 2022 11:54:42
Interesting set of responses and judging by the above, I think most people feel the League Cup by itself isn't that big an achievement. It is a difficult one for me. I think if City weren't the team they currently are, just winning the League Cup would be a failure to me, but the fact that we have kept pace with them this season has to be applauded to some degree. I will be so disappointed if we don't win the FA Cup and CL but at the same time be elated with the progress the club has made on and off the field in the last few years.

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