06 Oct 2025 19:17:33
It will be interesting to see the extent of Konate's injury in the coming days, if he does play for France and it gets aggravated we might be left with just Virgil and Joe as fit senior centre backs for Man Utd.
06 Oct 2025 19:51:47
I dunno what Joe did to Slot, but he seems to prefer putting players out of position to using him.
06 Oct 2025 20:10:52
You said it, SR esp. your last part.
06 Oct 2025 20:18:07
If I was Gomez and I was fit sat on the bench and the boss takes off 3 players in the 3 positions I play and prefers to play players out of position in them positions than me I’d hand in my notice.
06 Oct 2025 20:22:17
Joe's not had any type of pre season so putting him in early will just end up with him being injured.
06 Oct 2025 20:40:52
Slot doesn't rate Gomez and it's not hard to see why.
He's not that good. I reckon Slot was trying to replace Konate in the summer and everyone was up in arms.
As I said to OliRed earlier, Grav goes centre half because he's better on the ball than Konate, Gomez and Endo. He wants someone to pass the ball better and move it quicker when we need a goal.
It's not ideal but we didn't get another centre half in the summer and we need another midfielder that can replace Grav if he drops back into the back four.
06 Oct 2025 20:46:33
Didn’t Gomez play 90 mins against Southampton though.
06 Oct 2025 21:28:37
Joe's not had a pre-season, yet Mac Alister seems to play and stink up the joint without any pre-season whatsoever.
To me this is similar to when we had that injury crisis in defense in 2020-21. The ship steadied when we started playing CBs at CB because then we stopped playing midfielders out of position and thus weakening the midfield.
06 Oct 2025 22:40:18
The problem is that if Konate stays on when we need a goal, we might not weaken the midfield but it won't get the ball anyway. Konate does very little with ball and we might need someone to make something happen. Gomez is at a similar level to Konate in possession.
Add to that us losing the best long passer in the team- if not the League- in the summer and I can understand Slot reacting. Konate and Gomez slow the play down and are incapable of stretching the opposition with their distribution or by carrying the ball out of defence.
06 Oct 2025 23:14:34
If Konate is out with injury I really hope Slot doesn't spend the entire international break plotting a way to wind up with Chiesa at CB then he says "people complain when I don't play Chiesa then they complain when I do"
:D.
06 Oct 2025 23:29:04
If your tactics rely on your centre back when you need a goal you're getting it all wrong.
07 Oct 2025 07:36:16
It's not about relying on your centre back when you need a goal, stoneage. But you can't rely on Konate and Gomez to get things moving when we do need one.
Konate would be less replaceable if he was more solid defensively and we were conceding fewer goals.
07 Oct 2025 08:39:35
Gomez was completely crap against Southampton and was outshone by an 18 Yr old on debut. Probably some of the reason Slot doesn't play him.
07 Oct 2025 09:55:38
Konate has been abysmal in most games this season (far worse than Gomez v Southampton) . An injury might be a blessing in disguise. We cannot lose Grav from midifield though. If Konate is out give Gomez a run. Failing that stick Endo in there but our midfield doesn't work without Grav.
07 Oct 2025 12:35:06
Rigsby, and my retort to you is the same. Im not interested in "progressing the ball" right now. I am interested is us getting back to basics with a solid defence and playing players in their proper positions cos we're in a pretty deep hole here, in case you and Slot are asleep.
Also if Slot wanted a CB who could progress the ball, he would either have tried to sign one or try to convince the legendary Joel Matip to come out of retirement cos he was the best at it.
Instead, Slot is weakening the midfield by putting arguably his best mid. and only DM at CB with a CB on the bench (after moving his other best midfielder to RB with a RN on the bench) cos he "wants to progress the ball" and then puts Endo in the DM role who ironically, can't progress the ball. If you think any of that makes sense then, that's you. Many of the rest of us think that is literal insanity.
07 Oct 2025 12:55:49
Surprised no one mentioned Grav in defence last season when slot did it then.
Perhaps illegal streaming was down for those specific games.
07 Oct 2025 13:10:47
OliRed, Slot tried to sign Marc Guehi in the summer. It was all over the media. Did you miss it?
So you're not interested in progressing the ball when we were chasing the game at Chelsea? That's when Slot put Grav back into the defence. I suppose we could have gone back to basics. Defenders that can defend. Safety first. Put it in the stand. Even your mate 'Fede' Chiesa would struggle to score like that.
The legendary Matip was the best at progressing the ball, was he?
I take it you never saw Alan Hansen, Paolo Maldini, Rio Ferdinand or Franz Beckenbauer play, then?
And what's that other fellahs name?
Oh yeah, Virgil van Dijk?
The legendary Joel Matip ?.
07 Oct 2025 21:55:01
Rigby, slot and co did try to sign Guehi, but really messed up,
Matip wasn't the best, but he was really good, at his peak, one of the best.
08 Oct 2025 07:20:39
Kop that, whether Slot and co messed up trying to Guehi or not is not the point. The point is that they tried to sign another centre half; one that can progress the ball quicker than Konate can.
I liked Matip but he wasn't one of the best at progressing the ball let alone the best. There are/ were loads better than Matip was.
Matip wasn't even the best at Liverpool!