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18 Sep 2020 20:40:14
Delighted with Thiago and the apparently imminent arrival of Jota, but where's the money coming from?

Are confident enough of offloading Grujic, Wilson, Karius, maybe Origi or Wijnaldum that we're pressing ahead knowing we'll ultimately break even (ish) . Or are we borrowing?

Or is this a bad question that'll give an Ed a headache?


1.) 18 Sep 2020 23:11:22
Why are you trying to kill the buzz mate? We’ve won everything in last couple of years playing great football. Why does money concern you? there are better people at the club than us to take care of that. Enjoy the ride or you will miss it.


2.) 18 Sep 2020 23:11:24
Trust Edwards and fsg. They know what they’re doing.


3.) 19 Sep 2020 01:24:32
It is called Creative Accountancy from Fenway.


4.) 19 Sep 2020 01:24:49
This has me worries that some "shock" deal will come out of this, and Mane's leaving.


5.) 19 Sep 2020 02:45:00
How can you be concerned with money?
Win the Champions league - spend nothing
Win the league - spend less than the competitors.
Liverpool have access to the cash to buy whoever they want without coming anywhere close to distress.
Also, who cares if they borrow? Every business borrows money to better itself. (LFC has always been a business btw)

{Ed0666's Note - I’m not sure we have the money to buy whoever without stress at all Mr Risdale.


6.) 19 Sep 2020 02:57:01
People need to be clearer on terms of how transfers are agreed before questioning financial sense. Thiago will only cost us 5mil this year and 5mil each of following 3 summer. Jota is not signing on the condition we pay a big lump now. he's going to be on a 5 year contract and because Liverpool are strong now clubs will be easier to agree to future bonuses or add ons. We see our players winning individual awards, top of goal scoring lists, club titles looking more common so those add on payments are easier to negotiate. Apparently we only more than 20 mil for thiago if he wins either league, CL or ballon d'or in his contract length so jota likely to have clauses as no chance we pay any big money this year. We will sell players which is obvious but it was silly to think we had to wait to get a certain amount which was then allowing us to spend instantly. For example it was possible that coutinho winning the European cup at any stage during his Barcelona contract length meant we would receive a lump of payment that was not guaranteed in the figure that was publically named as total cost. The likes of Danny ings having such a strong season and reaching accolades etc may be reasons behind us getting earlier than expected income. Jota will likely be balanced in our books with the likes of Wilson, shaqiri, origi or Brewster now seemingly on the market. With 2 or even 3 not being needed they will easily pay the jota cost and more. Hoever brings in 10mil as does lovren so 20 mil at least income for rarely needed defenders.

It's not so simple as thinking we can't deal with transfers until the minute we officially anounce a sale and just get that price immediately in the bank to spend. We've obviously been planning on thiago and jota for a period of time with realistic prediction of what players will leave and earn us so financial impact will never be a wishful gamble. We moan and get frustration but we never have any clue to what is happening within so always presume that activity in the public eye represents the activity in real life. Why would we actually operate under that strategy openly? Every other club would get negotiation strenght if that was so obvious. Bayern would be able to be stubborn if knowing that thiago was wanted only after gini for example left and we were in need for his replacement. If we tried to immediately offer decent money for a CB after lovren left clubs could have held out for more. It's smart business that we have prioritised the areas we weren't yet desperate to fill. I expect we now focus on shipping out the weaker players who thiago and jota will take upgrade while adding another defender at some point when the price best suits us instead oflooking forced to replace our defensive outgoings.

{Ed0666's Note - you took my advice well done sir and Thankyou.


7.) 19 Sep 2020 05:57:40
OmG har has used paragraphs, well done sir 😄.


8.) 19 Sep 2020 07:53:57
That grammarly software is good, isn't it? 😂.


9.) 19 Sep 2020 07:54:47
Christos, obviously haven’t frequented the page much recently. Ed002 has repeatedly explained that we had pre spent much of our tournament winnings. I am a little concerned with where this money is coming from but I am also not Liverpool’s accountant, wish I was. Any recruiters lurking I’m fully qualified, come get me ;) . Either way, I trust the club to be doing the right thing and I imagine we are confident in sales of out of favour players rather than Mane.


10.) 20 Sep 2020 00:23:11
Cotsi, it isn't possible to pre-spend money. Businesses invest according to their anticipated cashflow. ED002 is wrong.
The windfalls from winning the CL and EPL might lower the debt % but the winnings certainly weren't "prespent" as that isn't how any of this works.


 

 

13 Dec 2019 18:10:37
It gets better: Milner signs a new deal.


1.) 13 Dec 2019 18:32:25
That's more good news.


2.) 13 Dec 2019 18:54:40
Perfect. Milner more than deserves it.


3.) 13 Dec 2019 19:00:31
What next today eh, even more good news coming out of the club!


4.) 13 Dec 2019 19:45:28
Kylian Mbappé to sign in January!


5.) 13 Dec 2019 19:52:42
Really pleased Milner has done that. He embodies everything Liverpool has become. One of our best.


6.) 14 Dec 2019 04:02:28
Does he get 10 ribenas as goal bonus now?


7.) 14 Dec 2019 10:02:47
Am I mistaken or he told he is not drinking anymore Ribena? 😅.


8.) 14 Dec 2019 10:36:46
This is excellent news very happy. Hopefully the younger talent can lean from a true professional of the game.


 

 

26 Nov 2014 18:43:22
Team: Mignolet, Manquillo, Skrtel, Toure, Johnson, Lucas, Gerrard, Allen, Henderson, Sterling, Lambert

Be interesting to see how Gerrard and Lucas are deployed. I'm assuming it'll be a diamond with Gerrard at the tip and Lucas at the base, but I'm worried that it'll be both of them as DMs which didn't exactly work against West Ham.


 

 

 

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29 Jun 2021 18:16:47
The more I watch Sterling play for England, the more Guardiola goes up in my estimation for getting some quality performances out of him.

Keeps running down blind alleys. Can't see a pass and can't execute a pass.


1.) 29 Jun 2021 18:37:02
Seems to get himself on the end of tap ins though 😉.


2.) 29 Jun 2021 18:39:48
It appears to be the only thing he can dependably do at a high level. Rodgers was ahead of the curve playing him as a central striker.


3.) 29 Jun 2021 18:50:15
Was d only 1 tho dat was going to do anything.3 out of his countrys 4 goals! only in england would he be getting stick.


4.) 29 Jun 2021 19:00:07
I'm not English Jadon, and I can only say what I see.


5.) 29 Jun 2021 19:23:22
He was head and shoulders above everyone else on that pitch SR. I can’t stand the lad, but you have to be honest he’s carried England into the Quarter Finals.


6.) 29 Jun 2021 19:26:22
Either am i, i don't know what you were seeing so because while he wasnt exactly great himself he was the best of a very bad bunch.


7.) 29 Jun 2021 21:24:38
"Best of a very bad bunch"

Very qualified praise, there. Sounds like you don't think he was particularly good either. So what are we arguing about?


8.) 30 Jun 2021 00:12:44
He didn’t stop today thought he was decent. I can see what is meant by blind alley, but the complete negative formation meant it was basically Sterling saka Kane versus a back 5 and two holding mids - no space but also no movement from kane. In the end Sterling started and finished his goal, and deserved it.

Whilst 2-0 is a good result, the plaudits Southgate gets makes me sick, so negative. Germany were poor. Play like that versus a team who are fired up like Ukraine and we will be heading home like France.


9.) 30 Jun 2021 08:03:18
Firmane it's baffling to see fans still haven't understood why Southgate has done unbelievable job in tournaments.

ENG weaknesses are at the back, Maguire and Stones aren't blessed with pace or neither are intelligent. Southgate's approach of playing defensive have helped to hide/ shield their weaknesses.

{Ed0666's Note - oh come on England haven’t become worlbeaters nor is southgate some sort of genius. You wait till they pkk ok at Spain or Belgium and you’ve had the easiest route to the final ever


10.) 30 Jun 2021 10:41:16
Kopforever, you can do all the cheerleading for England and Southgate as much as you like BUT until he actually GETS IT DONE, you're whistling into the wind, bro. England have proven nothing yet and neither has Southgate. They have literally played ALL their games for now, on home soil while other teams have had to travel a whole lot. You think that is not an advantage to them?

Also, as Ed said they have had the easiest route to the final in the bracket, just like they did in the WC in Russia and still managed to screw that up royally as well. Did you consider that? Listen, you love England and Southgate. We get it. But don't start gaslighting the rest of us about things that many of us KNOW are NOT happening. Let us see how things go when the rubber meets the road before we crown them world beaters and anoint Southgate a genius, shall we?


 

 

08 Jun 2021 20:02:10
Kelleher making his international debut for those interested.


 

 

29 May 2021 01:02:44
Views on Ruben Neves lads?

Just asking cos I'm reading some online comments by Man U fans cacking themselves at the possibility that we might sign Neves instead of them.

Idk, maybe I'm alone in this, but I don't see Neves as a player we particularly need. He's not bad or anything, but he doesn't do anything that Thiago doesn't do a lot better than him. Can we really go spending £30m on someone to play when Thiago can't?

Someone like Bissouma (who we're allegedly not actively interested in anyway) who provides more energy and gets around the pitch would surely be better if we're going to buy a midfielder, since we already have a solid DM in Fabinho and a playmaker in Thiago? Not to mention Hendo.

Am I missing something? Is Neves in fact really dynamic and hardworking and I've just not noticed?


1.) 29 May 2021 03:41:27
both us and arsenal are interested in bissouma i think SR.


2.) 29 May 2021 05:57:43
Neves is still a brilliant player on his day the problem is his days are just 10-12 games per season.
Also at the price being quoted we can't even afford him.


3.) 29 May 2021 08:42:18
Agree that he is technically gifted but may lack the nobility to really warrant spending a lot of money on him.

{Ed001's Note - maybe get him a knighthood then?}


4.) 29 May 2021 09:38:49
I would love another little thumbs up section solely for the Ed's comments. Brilliant replies on a constant basis.


5.) 29 May 2021 18:04:19
I like Neves, good technique, can play number 6 or 8, decent engine on him, good passer, can perform on a cold evening in Stoke/ Burnley, has a strike on him and Wolves are prepared to do a deal. Bissouma would be first choice, but Neves isn’t a bad option.


 

 

28 Apr 2021 15:24:36
If wee Nathanial Phillips is out for the game at the weekend, would you guys chance dropping Davies into it untested or playing Rhys "The Statue" Williams in order to put Fabinho back in midfield?

I expect the answer will be overwhelmingly in favour of putting Fabs in his best position, but I'm just curious.


1.) 28 Apr 2021 16:04:07
Rhys Williams would he my pick. If he is competent enough to play against Zapata and Kane (games we won), then he is good enough to play against Cavani/ Greenwood.


2.) 28 Apr 2021 16:24:01
Statues are highly underappreciated things you know. There's a lot of hard work that goes into being or making like a statue. If only everyone were that skilled.


3.) 28 Apr 2021 17:02:02
Regardless of who partners Kabak, we MUST get Fabs back into CDM.

And to Ra-Michaelangelo-ArAy, you're not wrong mate. But most statues I've seen are pretty solid and can take a hit. So I take exception to Rhys being called a statue!


4.) 28 Apr 2021 18:42:19
You know what MK, I’ve still got nightmares about the last time Rhys Williams played against United. He had an absolute shocker and I’ve no reason to think he won’t do the same again, I’d rather give Davies a go as we’d have nothing to lose.


5.) 28 Apr 2021 19:18:22
Rhys Williams? Seriously? No Thankyou the lad is a liability, hopefully he turns it around but I can’t see him being good enough if I’m honest.


6.) 28 Apr 2021 19:50:42
Assuming davies is fit I'd put him in over Williams, but I'd play Williams there over fab.


7.) 28 Apr 2021 21:00:35
Williams? Nope. Picking out two games where he played ok does not and cannot hide the other games where he was awful with the most basic of errors. What was worse was that he kept making the same mistakes in those games meaning, he was not learning. Didn’t he play vs Utd in the Cup game? How did that go?

Don’t know who should play next to Kabak cos yes, FAB should be in midfield BUT you play the hand you are dealt. And it would be unfair to play Davies at Utd as his debut whereas we had a chance to play him before hand and Klopp did not. It will be Fab defence again I reckon so let the meltdown begin.


8.) 28 Apr 2021 21:13:38
You know what Oli, funny you should mention a player from a lower league team having their debut against Man United, as that’s what Rob Jones did and he had Giggs in his pocket all match. I say give him a punt. He literally cannot do worse than Williams as the bar has been set so low,


9.) 28 Apr 2021 22:14:05
Zed. Gee I love how you get behind our players. The live chat has undoubtedly adulterated your brains. You used to be quite good with the humour. This new brooding, slicing and dicing you is frankly very un-original. (lots of competition you'll note) . 😉.


10.) 28 Apr 2021 23:01:16
Rhy does not competent enough against Zapata, Gomez carried him the whole match.


 

 

28 Jan 2021 22:31:13
Klopp: "It looks like something serious with Joel Matip, it’s an ankle injury"

My reaction to this news amounts to a string of expletives.


 

 

 

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24 Jul 2021 15:02:58
Wasn't him this time VVVV, but according to him we were given permission by Athletico to talk to Saul two weeks ago. Obviously no one's in a hurry there.


 

 

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21 Jul 2021 22:38:12
"Reading in utter disbelief"

Yeah. You're right not to believe it.


 

 

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19 Jul 2021 17:14:11
Have you read the article? It's speculative fluff with loads of 'coulds' and 'possibles' in it and parallels drawn to Wijnaldum (despite the fact that Hendo already has a contract until he's 33 whilst Gini's ended when he was 30.Suggesting the club views Hendo differently) .

If you joined the #FSGout crowd on Twitter over this, I wouldn't accuse you of being xenophobic, I'd accuse you of being a twit.

Plenty of things with which to take issue with FSG without going at them over absolutely nothing.


 

 

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15 May 2021 18:43:14
Dele Alli? I think I'm going to ridicule you anyway mate.

Go watch the clip of Mourinho telling him (very nicely) he'll regret not getting his act together when he was manager. And then count how many games Alli got his act together for. I think it was about 5.

All the skill in the world is no good if you can't be bothered applying it. Just ask Naby.


 

 

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14 May 2021 19:49:41
This is at least the 5th or 6th time I've seen Tammy Abraham suggested on here lately, and it seems to be coming out of nowhere.

Is his agent getting desperate to stir up some interest and is creating accounts on fan forums or something?

{Ed0666's Note - you haven’t seen Tammy’s new ‘you’ll never walk alone’ tatoo on his leg?


 

 

 

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31 Jul 2021 13:46:54
Can we at least wait until the end of the transfer window to complain about the club not moving forward and being competitive?


 

 

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29 Jul 2021 21:47:48
Played well, but conceded four fairly cheap goals. Worth noting that we used 10 defenders in the game though.

Tsimikas, Ox and Taku were probably the best players. Gordon also stood out too, the quality of his off the ball movement is up there with a senior pro.

On the hot topic player Naby Keita, I thought he did okay. Neither brilliant or awful.


 

 

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27 Jul 2021 22:39:18
Jokes aside, Salah, Mane, Bobby, Jota, Taku and Elliot are not a bad bunch of lads to go into a season with.

If we could add someone with a bit more quality, that'd be great, but I consider getting another central midfielder a bigger priority.

There's a little over a month to go anyway. Nothing to panic about.


 

 

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23 Jul 2021 20:53:07
Again though, the difference is work rate and effort. Lucas and Hendo were never faulted for lack of effort. Even when fans who thought themselves very clever were saying they were useless, no one accused them of not being bothered. They were considered not good enough cos they weren't glamourous and exciting to watch. They didn't go around pinging 50 yard passes (although Hendo has since demonstrated that he absolutely can do that) or scoring 25 yard screamers with the regularity of Gerrard, or dribbling past people. But they ultimately won people over cos they grafted and were effective on the pitch.

With Keita, we know he has the talent. In terms of out and out technique on the ball, he's probably better than every midfielder we have bar Thiago. He just hasn't bothered his backside applying his ability properly for 3 years. I actually can't think of a player who's turned that around.

{Ed025's Note - thats a very fair summary mate..


 

 

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23 Jul 2021 19:46:59
WY, it's more than injuries and fitness. He has to want it, and he has to put in the effort when he's on the pitch. He just hasn't done that, regardless of how long or how many games it's been since his last injury.

Ox is injuries. He comes back from an injury, he'll at least try. He'll run and he'll put in effort. Even if he looks lost on the pitch and all his touches are awful because of his lack of match practice, and even if he's sluggish with his running and turning because his body isn't right, he'll still try. Naby comes back from an injury, he doesn't try. He hides. Actually he hides even he's not coming back from an injury.

I'd say Ox did more in the few sub apps he managed last season than Naby's managed in 3 years.

And I sincerely hope that I have to eat every single word I've just written cos Naby pulls his socks up and delivers this season. But based on performances to date, I'm not hopeful.