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18 Sep 2020 20:40:14
Delighted with Thiago and the apparently imminent arrival of Jota, but where's the money coming from?
Are confident enough of offloading Grujic, Wilson, Karius, maybe Origi or Wijnaldum that we're pressing ahead knowing we'll ultimately break even (ish) . Or are we borrowing?
Or is this a bad question that'll give an Ed a headache?
1.) 18 Sep 2020 23:11:22
Why are you trying to kill the buzz mate? We’ve won everything in last couple of years playing great football. Why does money concern you? there are better people at the club than us to take care of that. Enjoy the ride or you will miss it.
2.) 18 Sep 2020 23:11:24
Trust Edwards and fsg. They know what they’re doing.
3.) 19 Sep 2020 01:24:32
It is called Creative Accountancy from Fenway.
4.) 19 Sep 2020 01:24:49
This has me worries that some "shock" deal will come out of this, and Mane's leaving.
5.) 19 Sep 2020 02:45:00
How can you be concerned with money?
Win the Champions league - spend nothing
Win the league - spend less than the competitors.
Liverpool have access to the cash to buy whoever they want without coming anywhere close to distress.
Also, who cares if they borrow? Every business borrows money to better itself. (LFC has always been a business btw)
{Ed0666's Note - I’m not sure we have the money to buy whoever without stress at all Mr Risdale.
6.) 19 Sep 2020 02:57:01
People need to be clearer on terms of how transfers are agreed before questioning financial sense. Thiago will only cost us 5mil this year and 5mil each of following 3 summer. Jota is not signing on the condition we pay a big lump now. he's going to be on a 5 year contract and because Liverpool are strong now clubs will be easier to agree to future bonuses or add ons. We see our players winning individual awards, top of goal scoring lists, club titles looking more common so those add on payments are easier to negotiate. Apparently we only more than 20 mil for thiago if he wins either league, CL or ballon d'or in his contract length so jota likely to have clauses as no chance we pay any big money this year. We will sell players which is obvious but it was silly to think we had to wait to get a certain amount which was then allowing us to spend instantly. For example it was possible that coutinho winning the European cup at any stage during his Barcelona contract length meant we would receive a lump of payment that was not guaranteed in the figure that was publically named as total cost. The likes of Danny ings having such a strong season and reaching accolades etc may be reasons behind us getting earlier than expected income. Jota will likely be balanced in our books with the likes of Wilson, shaqiri, origi or Brewster now seemingly on the market. With 2 or even 3 not being needed they will easily pay the jota cost and more. Hoever brings in 10mil as does lovren so 20 mil at least income for rarely needed defenders.
It's not so simple as thinking we can't deal with transfers until the minute we officially anounce a sale and just get that price immediately in the bank to spend. We've obviously been planning on thiago and jota for a period of time with realistic prediction of what players will leave and earn us so financial impact will never be a wishful gamble. We moan and get frustration but we never have any clue to what is happening within so always presume that activity in the public eye represents the activity in real life. Why would we actually operate under that strategy openly? Every other club would get negotiation strenght if that was so obvious. Bayern would be able to be stubborn if knowing that thiago was wanted only after gini for example left and we were in need for his replacement. If we tried to immediately offer decent money for a CB after lovren left clubs could have held out for more. It's smart business that we have prioritised the areas we weren't yet desperate to fill. I expect we now focus on shipping out the weaker players who thiago and jota will take upgrade while adding another defender at some point when the price best suits us instead oflooking forced to replace our defensive outgoings.
{Ed0666's Note - you took my advice well done sir and Thankyou.
7.) 19 Sep 2020 05:57:40
OmG har has used paragraphs, well done sir 😄.
8.) 19 Sep 2020 07:53:57
That grammarly software is good, isn't it? 😂.
9.) 19 Sep 2020 07:54:47
Christos, obviously haven’t frequented the page much recently. Ed002 has repeatedly explained that we had pre spent much of our tournament winnings. I am a little concerned with where this money is coming from but I am also not Liverpool’s accountant, wish I was. Any recruiters lurking I’m fully qualified, come get me ;) . Either way, I trust the club to be doing the right thing and I imagine we are confident in sales of out of favour players rather than Mane.
10.) 20 Sep 2020 00:23:11
Cotsi, it isn't possible to pre-spend money. Businesses invest according to their anticipated cashflow. ED002 is wrong.
The windfalls from winning the CL and EPL might lower the debt % but the winnings certainly weren't "prespent" as that isn't how any of this works.
13 Dec 2019 18:10:37
It gets better: Milner signs a new deal.
1.) 13 Dec 2019 18:32:25
That's more good news.
2.) 13 Dec 2019 18:54:40
Perfect. Milner more than deserves it.
3.) 13 Dec 2019 19:00:31
What next today eh, even more good news coming out of the club!
4.) 13 Dec 2019 19:45:28
Kylian Mbappé to sign in January!
5.) 13 Dec 2019 19:52:42
Really pleased Milner has done that. He embodies everything Liverpool has become. One of our best.
6.) 14 Dec 2019 04:02:28
Does he get 10 ribenas as goal bonus now?
7.) 14 Dec 2019 10:02:47
Am I mistaken or he told he is not drinking anymore Ribena? 😅.
8.) 14 Dec 2019 10:36:46
This is excellent news very happy. Hopefully the younger talent can lean from a true professional of the game.
26 Nov 2014 18:43:22
Team: Mignolet, Manquillo, Skrtel, Toure, Johnson, Lucas, Gerrard, Allen, Henderson, Sterling, Lambert
Be interesting to see how Gerrard and Lucas are deployed. I'm assuming it'll be a diamond with Gerrard at the tip and Lucas at the base, but I'm worried that it'll be both of them as DMs which didn't exactly work against West Ham.
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23 May 2025 18:47:01
There aren't any nice mountains around Leverkusen, are there?
1.) 23 May 2025 19:30:13
Welsh mountains are incredible.
2.) 23 May 2025 19:32:32
Nice one SR ?.
3.) 23 May 2025 19:46:55
SR - don’t jinx it lad.
4.) 23 May 2025 20:18:45
He will be attending Sundays game strong rumour has it, would be surprised as this should be Arne's day only! unless Arne sent the only sincere invite which he would have done as a mark of repect, and Jurgen has duly accepted Arne's only sincere invite as a mark of respect also.
It's Arne's day if he's happy, then everyone else is also.
24 Mar 2025 09:12:21
Little trivia quiz.
Since the introduction of permanent squad numbers, name a Liverpool player who's had two different numbers, both whilst playing for us, in the same season.
I can think of two examples. There could be more.
1.) 24 Mar 2025 10:50:22
Tricky one that mate, I can't think of one! not in the same season.
2.) 24 Mar 2025 10:59:33
Robbie Fowler had five: 14 -> 23 -> 12 -> 11 -> 9
(He also reused 2 of these in his second spell: 11 -> 9)
3.) 24 Mar 2025 11:11:53
In one season Shipley?
4.) 24 Mar 2025 11:55:10
Harvey Elliott. He had 46 when he joined and took the no. 19 a couple of years after Sadio took the no. 10 after Cou left.
5.) 24 Mar 2025 11:56:31
Did collymore have a couple?
6.) 24 Mar 2025 11:59:57
Ooo borini?
7.) 24 Mar 2025 12:00:03
Carroll was 9 in domestic competitions and 39 in Europa League in his first season as Torres had already been registered as 9 in Europa that season.
8.) 24 Mar 2025 12:08:23
Mane must be one? He took coutinhos nr 10 when he left and had like 18, 19 before?
9.) 24 Mar 2025 12:16:44
I going to guess but when Gerrard played with nr 17 and took 8 that was during one season?
10.) 24 Mar 2025 12:17:07
Did Aurelio wear 2 different shirt numbers in one season? 12 and 6 maybe.
11.) 24 Mar 2025 12:19:05
I can't think of any who used 2 numbers in the same season.
Obviously Firmino went 11 to 9, Ali 13 to 1, Gomez 12 to 2, Nunez 27 to 9 etc. but I don't think any wore 2 different ones in the same season. Didn't think you'd be allowed to.
12.) 24 Mar 2025 12:20:50
I can't think of any who changed their number midway through the season. You'd have to tell us the answer SR :)
13.) 24 Mar 2025 13:04:18
Babbity Rabbity's got one. Andy Carroll took no. 9 when he arrived, but due to European rules he couldn't wear no. 9 in the Europa League cos Torres had already used it for us that season. So he was no. 39 or no. 29. Can't remember which.
The other one I was thinking of was Pepe Reina. He was normally no. 25, but the Club World Cup at the time required teams to name a 23 man squad and then number them 1 - 23. So he was no. 12 in the CWC.
And actually, now that I look, there were two more players in the CWC squad that season who didn't have their regular number, because their regular number was greater than 23. See can you guess them.
14.) 24 Mar 2025 14:01:38
I got it wrong. Carroll was 29 not 39.
15.) 24 Mar 2025 14:52:44
Interesting information that 'Something Red'.
Is Sinama Pongolle one? He was No.24 and I remember him playing in that just before going to Blackburn.
16.) 24 Mar 2025 15:39:04
Yes Gunn, Sinama-Pongolle was no. 11 in the CWC.
17.) 24 Mar 2025 17:24:48
Was the other one Colin’s son? Stephen Warnock?
18.) 24 Mar 2025 18:33:54
Was Sami hypia one as well maybe 12 or something before he became 4?
19.) 24 Mar 2025 18:53:09
StEtienneAmen. Yep. It was Warnock. No. 2 for the CWC, whilst regularly no. 28.
16 Mar 2025 18:35:00
Well there's two ways of looking at things. Either:
A) The team leading the league by 12 points and the top scorer and assist leader in the Prem are, in fact, terrible.
or
B) We got punished for not rotating enough. The likes of Elliot, Endo, Quansah and Chiesa should've at least started against Southampton.
It may not have made the difference, but it would've given us some chance.
We're going to win the league anyway.
1.) 16 Mar 2025 18:49:07
Probably the reason we’re winning the league is because we haven’t rotated much, but it’s cost us in the other competitions where we’re now looking jaded.
We’ve often not been outstanding in the league but have been the best and most consistent team. We’ve ground out results as other teams have faltered. In the cups with PSG we came up against a better team over two legs, Newcastle wanted it more today, and least said about Plymouth the better. That’s how it goes in knock out or one off games.
2.) 16 Mar 2025 18:50:46
Other observations:
We missed Trent's passing for the whole game, as well as his crossing ability near the end. We'll be just fine when he goes to Madrid though, cos Sky Sports have told me he can't defend.
Having Jota on the pitch is like playing with 10 men against anyone decent. When was the last time he scored? Was it against Notts Forest? I get Nunez is flawed and not good enough either, but at least there's some possibility he'll graft and contribute something. Jota's started 3 of the last 4, including 3 huge knockout games and has been entirely anonymous in all of them. He actually looks like he's playing with an injury.
Elliot should've come on in the 55th minute, at least he threaded a few decent balls in around their box.
3.) 16 Mar 2025 19:12:41
Jota was crap tonight. Nunez came on and was just as crap.
09 Mar 2025 18:49:48
Check out the highlights from Spurs v Bournemouth. Kerkez' run and cross for Bournemouth's first goal reminded me of peak Robbo.
1.) 10 Mar 2025 14:20:37
The fella has openly said he's a united fan, can we stop pushing this one please?
2.) 10 Mar 2025 14:50:12
Is that an issue?
Carra was a blue and played for Liverpool.
Atletico have players signed from Real Madrid (like Marcos Llorente) .
Doesn’t stop them performing for you. They are PROFESSIONAL athletes, they’re not going to score an own goal because they supported united as a kid.
23 Feb 2025
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Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Stay humble, eh.
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1.) 23 Feb 2025 21:11:27
They are the opposite of humble. Saw their little 4 ina row dig. Someone needs to fly a banner saying 115.
2.) 23 Feb 2025 21:14:53
No wonder I didn't notice Marmoush on the pitch today. He was in the stands in front of Haaland this whole time.
3.) 23 Feb 2025 21:15:49
I mean I'm not a fan of haaland at all. but he told Arteta to stay humble, which is a pretty fair thing to tell the arrogant little man who has won fa.
4.) 23 Feb 2025 21:20:38
"Shankly" into "Klopp"
"Paisley" into "Slot"
Enjoy ye next nine years "HA"-"HA"- Land at the "EMPTY"had Stadium!
5.) 23 Feb 2025 21:37:00
Arteta has won fa.
The FA Cup.
6.) 23 Feb 2025 21:39:54
We are football royalty along with United, Arsenal, Everton and too be fair Leeds. They will never be us.
7.) 23 Feb 2025 22:13:31
No disrespect to Leeds, Endo, but why Leeds? What are you using as a barometer? Why not Forest, Derby? Just curious, that's all.
8.) 23 Feb 2025 22:53:38
RedScarface you mean 130?
@Bmena-red, they both need to stay humble, tbh.
9.) 23 Feb 2025 23:05:05
That's fair Oli.
10.) 24 Feb 2025 00:11:08
If you’re talking football royalty in England you can only really say Liverpool and Utd.
Others have had fleeting moments but Liverpool and Utd are the only two clubs that have had long periods of dominance both domestically and in Europe.
Chelsea and City are just plastic football clubs. They are both historic clubs but everyone knows they’d both have West Ham levels of success if they didn’t have the owner’s money behind them.
They are not even recognisable as the clubs they were before they became rich men’s play things.
On another note did anyone hear that Spurs sent an email to the broadcasters stating that they either want to be referred to as Spurs or Tottenham Hotspur and NOT Tottenham? They apparently want to distance themselves from any geographical area. Simply put, they want to trample all over the fans that have supported them for generations in the pursuit of money. What has football come to?
11.) 24 Feb 2025 02:15:32
Arsenal have never won the champions league, even in their pomp under wenger, and have won but one cup winners cup, hardly footballing royalty to be fair.
12.) 24 Feb 2025 08:51:14
PatrikBurgher, Arsenal have played as many CL finals as Spurs, Stade De Reims (in France), Malmo of Sweden, Club Brugge (lost to LFC), Sampdoria and well, you get the point. That's the company they keep.
As for their Cup Winner's Cup win, even Sampdoria have one of those and non one has ever accused them of being CL giants
An absolute non-entity in Europe.
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23 May 2025 22:57:10
Well if Slot sees Elliot as an understudy to Salah, he'll play about 20 minutes all next season.
Klopp didn't rotate Salah and Slot generally rotates even less than Klopp did.
23 May 2025 18:52:02
"Even better than Wirtz" implies someone like Vini Jr. or Isak.
Careful not to overpromise Akira, mate. :p.
23 May 2025 18:39:41
THC? Edibles?
15 May 2025 20:33:32
As much as I like Irish lads playing for Liverpool, I'm not sure that'd be the best idea if it there's anything in it.
He's good on the ball, but makes mistakes with his positional play nearly every time he plays for Ireland. Now admittedly, having pure dirt like Matt Doherty play with him for Ireland doesn't help him, nearly any time I pay attention to Brentford, he seems to be making mistakes for them as well.
idk maybe that's a false impression I'm getting.
09 May 2025 18:40:35
Was disappointed with Leverkusen and Alonso when we played them this season. Was like watching a game against Mourinho in the latter portions of his Chelsea career.
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23 May 2025 18:34:29
He's leaving to go cry into his Jude Bellingham cuddle pillow whilst Wirtz, Frimpong etc. join Salah and Co. in ripping up the Premier League and Champions League.
He's made his bed.
21 May 2025 20:46:57
Handball OG. How appropriate.
21 May 2025 20:28:42
Crap so far. Like an average League of Ireland game.
21 May 2025 14:09:44
If I thought for one second that Man U would spend the CL money intelligently I'd be worried. But it's Man U. Every big signing they've made in nearly 10 years has flopped. With the possible exception of Fernandes.
I still want Spurs to won cos it's hilarious for Man U to finish with nothing though.
19 May 2025 18:18:47
There's an article on BBC Sport about it. You can say a few things about the BBC, but jumping the gun on football rumours isn't something they're known for.