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18 Sep 2020 20:40:14
Delighted with Thiago and the apparently imminent arrival of Jota, but where's the money coming from?

Are confident enough of offloading Grujic, Wilson, Karius, maybe Origi or Wijnaldum that we're pressing ahead knowing we'll ultimately break even (ish) . Or are we borrowing?

Or is this a bad question that'll give an Ed a headache?

1.) 18 Sep 2020 23:11:22
Why are you trying to kill the buzz mate? We’ve won everything in last couple of years playing great football. Why does money concern you? there are better people at the club than us to take care of that. Enjoy the ride or you will miss it.

2.) 18 Sep 2020 23:11:24
Trust Edwards and fsg. They know what they’re doing.

3.) 19 Sep 2020 01:24:32
It is called Creative Accountancy from Fenway.

4.) 19 Sep 2020 01:24:49
This has me worries that some "shock" deal will come out of this, and Mane's leaving.

5.) 19 Sep 2020 02:45:00
How can you be concerned with money?
Win the Champions league - spend nothing
Win the league - spend less than the competitors.
Liverpool have access to the cash to buy whoever they want without coming anywhere close to distress.
Also, who cares if they borrow? Every business borrows money to better itself. (LFC has always been a business btw)

{Ed0666's Note - I’m not sure we have the money to buy whoever without stress at all Mr Risdale.

6.) 19 Sep 2020 02:57:01
People need to be clearer on terms of how transfers are agreed before questioning financial sense. Thiago will only cost us 5mil this year and 5mil each of following 3 summer. Jota is not signing on the condition we pay a big lump now. he's going to be on a 5 year contract and because Liverpool are strong now clubs will be easier to agree to future bonuses or add ons. We see our players winning individual awards, top of goal scoring lists, club titles looking more common so those add on payments are easier to negotiate. Apparently we only more than 20 mil for thiago if he wins either league, CL or ballon d'or in his contract length so jota likely to have clauses as no chance we pay any big money this year. We will sell players which is obvious but it was silly to think we had to wait to get a certain amount which was then allowing us to spend instantly. For example it was possible that coutinho winning the European cup at any stage during his Barcelona contract length meant we would receive a lump of payment that was not guaranteed in the figure that was publically named as total cost. The likes of Danny ings having such a strong season and reaching accolades etc may be reasons behind us getting earlier than expected income. Jota will likely be balanced in our books with the likes of Wilson, shaqiri, origi or Brewster now seemingly on the market. With 2 or even 3 not being needed they will easily pay the jota cost and more. Hoever brings in 10mil as does lovren so 20 mil at least income for rarely needed defenders.

It's not so simple as thinking we can't deal with transfers until the minute we officially anounce a sale and just get that price immediately in the bank to spend. We've obviously been planning on thiago and jota for a period of time with realistic prediction of what players will leave and earn us so financial impact will never be a wishful gamble. We moan and get frustration but we never have any clue to what is happening within so always presume that activity in the public eye represents the activity in real life. Why would we actually operate under that strategy openly? Every other club would get negotiation strenght if that was so obvious. Bayern would be able to be stubborn if knowing that thiago was wanted only after gini for example left and we were in need for his replacement. If we tried to immediately offer decent money for a CB after lovren left clubs could have held out for more. It's smart business that we have prioritised the areas we weren't yet desperate to fill. I expect we now focus on shipping out the weaker players who thiago and jota will take upgrade while adding another defender at some point when the price best suits us instead oflooking forced to replace our defensive outgoings.

{Ed0666's Note - you took my advice well done sir and Thankyou.

7.) 19 Sep 2020 05:57:40
OmG har has used paragraphs, well done sir 😄.

8.) 19 Sep 2020 07:53:57
That grammarly software is good, isn't it? 😂.

9.) 19 Sep 2020 07:54:47
Christos, obviously haven’t frequented the page much recently. Ed002 has repeatedly explained that we had pre spent much of our tournament winnings. I am a little concerned with where this money is coming from but I am also not Liverpool’s accountant, wish I was. Any recruiters lurking I’m fully qualified, come get me ;) . Either way, I trust the club to be doing the right thing and I imagine we are confident in sales of out of favour players rather than Mane.

10.) 20 Sep 2020 00:23:11
Cotsi, it isn't possible to pre-spend money. Businesses invest according to their anticipated cashflow. ED002 is wrong.
The windfalls from winning the CL and EPL might lower the debt % but the winnings certainly weren't "prespent" as that isn't how any of this works.



13 Dec 2019 18:10:37
It gets better: Milner signs a new deal.

1.) 13 Dec 2019 18:32:25
That's more good news.

2.) 13 Dec 2019 18:54:40
Perfect. Milner more than deserves it.

3.) 13 Dec 2019 19:00:31
What next today eh, even more good news coming out of the club!

4.) 13 Dec 2019 19:45:28
Kylian Mbappé to sign in January!

5.) 13 Dec 2019 19:52:42
Really pleased Milner has done that. He embodies everything Liverpool has become. One of our best.

6.) 14 Dec 2019 04:02:28
Does he get 10 ribenas as goal bonus now?

7.) 14 Dec 2019 10:02:47
Am I mistaken or he told he is not drinking anymore Ribena? 😅.

8.) 14 Dec 2019 10:36:46
This is excellent news very happy. Hopefully the younger talent can lean from a true professional of the game.



26 Nov 2014 18:43:22
Team: Mignolet, Manquillo, Skrtel, Toure, Johnson, Lucas, Gerrard, Allen, Henderson, Sterling, Lambert

Be interesting to see how Gerrard and Lucas are deployed. I'm assuming it'll be a diamond with Gerrard at the tip and Lucas at the base, but I'm worried that it'll be both of them as DMs which didn't exactly work against West Ham.




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07 Nov 2020 23:52:19
Oh wow, I just saw the Bamford "offside".

It's amazing. I think this might actually be a conscious effort by PMGOL to get VAR scrapped.

1.) 08 Nov 2020 06:23:54
shocking decision, why can it not be as simple as using the feet as the game is called FOOTball after all, all these finger, arm pit or backside offside decisions is just plain stupid, stupid and I will say it again stupid.

2.) 08 Nov 2020 08:30:44
It’s simpler then that king, they need to stop turning it into an etch a sketch and stop using lines. No one would of called that offside, to make it worse their not even looking across the line to see the decision.

If there going to do that they need the equivalent of the hare in dog racing to follow the action. I’m adamant you can’t get the right answer from taking the picture on an angle it’s the equivalent of those optical illusions.

3.) 08 Nov 2020 08:39:55
You can add the Westham goal to that as well. A player who is miles offside who then interferes with the play and the goal is given. Nothing is surprising anymore!

4.) 08 Nov 2020 11:08:16
Sorry lads got to disagree regards the west ham goal it's not an offence just to be in an offside position you either have to get the ball or actively trying to get the ball which the forward pulled out of trying to get the ball but as for bamford goal it should have stood because any part of your body which you can score a goal with counts as offside not your finger VAR is slowly killing g the game opinions please but be gentle.

5.) 08 Nov 2020 12:02:36
I do understand the logic of "any part of his body he can score with" to a degree.

But since they're going to the trouble of looking at the replay frame by frame and using an electron microscope to see was he offside, why not go the extra step and measure it from the part of his body that he actually scored with? Not the top of his arm that he could have scored with, but didn't.

Bamford was denied a goal because he pointed to where he wanted a team mate to put the ball. It's so absurd that if you had told someone 3 years ago that this would happen they would've had you committed to the looney bin.

6.) 08 Nov 2020 12:17:25
I don't often agree with Lineker but last night he said "once the dots come out its over, get rid of the dots. Level at worst". I can't wait for a player to score with the top of his arm and for it to be disallowed, wrong under the new rule, but disallowed none the less.

7.) 08 Nov 2020 13:10:31
Hunter I agree its not an offence to be standing offside but if you watch that west ham goal the offside player makes an attempt for the ball just doesn't get there. It forces a hurried clearance which leads to the goal. You don't agree mate?

8.) 08 Nov 2020 15:00:28
No mate sorry I don't agree law 5 says in the opinion of the referee everybody has an opinion afterwards but not the guts to do the course and referee an actual game then they will realise as to how hard it actually is.

9.) 08 Nov 2020 16:19:02
No doubt it's not an easy game to ref at all. The speed which things happen make it very difficult but for me the player is in an offside position and he influences the clearance. Respect your view and that's what this site is about. Another call that bothers me is when a player is offside and not deemed "active" yet a keeper has to wait to the ball has cleared that player before reacting. That is the last time I will defend keepers lol.



17 Oct 2020
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Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, "Offside"



17 Oct 2020 14:34:57
I cannot believe that. Pickford not even booked for a knee height, two footed scissor challenge because they "didn't look at it", but they can freeze frame a level offside decision, and whip out a vernier calipers to determine that Mane's shoulder was maybe 1/ 1000th of an inch offside.

VAR is not fit for purpose.

I'm sure it'll be dismissed as 'bitterness' or clever blokes will come along to say 'well we still conceded two poor goals, it shouldn't have mattered, I'm clever etc. etc. ', but I don't care. That was absolute nonsense and anyone who says otherwise or tries to play down how utterly utterly bad that was is wrong, simple as that.

It's as close as I think we'll ever see to a team be intentionally cheated out of a win in the Premier League.

1.) 17 Oct 2020 14:39:34
Spot on mate, couldn't agree more, it's really pissed me off.

2.) 17 Oct 2020 14:41:47
I don't think its VAR that's the issue its idiots using it. We have been cheated today plain and simple. Embarrassing officiating.

3.) 17 Oct 2020 14:43:11
Still struggling with the last call, is level not on side anymore?

4.) 17 Oct 2020 14:46:49
Just had another look at the "offside" and it's worse than I thought. It looks like they've drawn their precious bloody line from his elbow, not his shoulder. Not a part of his body he can score with is it?

Incompetence of the highest order.

5.) 17 Oct 2020 14:49:23
Who is looking at these decisions. This is ruining football. Surely these are clear cut decisions.

6.) 17 Oct 2020 15:05:01
the line is really confusing. is it from the 'top of the shoulder' that is considered ok? but the line they have drawn doesn't look like it comes from the top of the shoulder or anywhere near it. literally looks like it's drawn down from Mane's elbow?

anyways I'm actually ok with VAR for offsides. cos I think if it's offside, no matter how marginal then it is offside. but that picture, like some others, just doesn't look very clear.

7.) 17 Oct 2020 15:19:58
Next time pickFord faces an offside striker he'll drop kick him in the face. Then it'll be suplex's and flying closelines. Coz a player is minutely offside (no way Jp could've known that) its okay to foul him.

I think dcl is looking great this season but if Everton play like that all year they won't be finishing top four. I really didn't want to feel bitter if we didn't win today but its hard not to feel so when we out fought them, out thought them out worked them and out classed them and were on the end of so many poor decisions.

Tbf to evdrton they put up a fight, could easily have rolled over after one nil early on. Thiago was fantastic and Henderson. The whole midfield did well. Vvd will be a huge miss though.

8.) 17 Oct 2020 15:48:48
Reminds me of the "arm-pit" offside on Bobby vs Villa last season. Nobody said a damn thing about it cos LFC won the game at the end. This just goes to show how brilliant our title win was last season. Look at all the crap we had to overcome to win last season. It will be the same thing this season, mark my words.



17 Oct 2020 11:34:54
Nice easy assignment for Thiago's first PL start.

1.) 17 Oct 2020 11:44:24
Our strongest line-up for me (except keeper of course)

2.) 17 Oct 2020 11:49:58
Rm can you do a post please mate saying Thiago definitely won’t score and get mom as everytime you assure us he’s not playing he does 😜.

3.) 17 Oct 2020 13:13:30
Pickford is a lucky man still to be on the pitch terrible challenge on virgil.

4.) 17 Oct 2020 13:23:10
So, if I see the offside flag go up I can jump legs first into a challenge?

5.) 17 Oct 2020 13:24:25
Why is it that we still can’t beat the first man on a corner? Seems to have been like this for a few years now.

6.) 17 Oct 2020 13:32:19
If pickford seen the offside flag up then that's the 1st thing he has seen all day VAR should have proved he was onside and so far so good regards adrian.

7.) 17 Oct 2020 15:59:15
JK23, I see what you did there. Thiago was perfect all game and indeed, I stand corrected.

8.) 17 Oct 2020 17:50:24
Rm only pulling your leg mate. Tongue in cheek brother 💪.



04 Oct 2020 21:21:05
The shut down in the second half is the big complaint from me.

We're 4-1 down at half time to a goalie's mistake, a good counter, a deflection and poor defending from a set-piece.

If we'd moved the ball around as well in the second half as we had in the first half, the score would've been a lot better. Likely would not have pulled it back as Villa had defended well, but it sure as hell wouldn't have been 7-2. But instead our midfield checked out completely.

1.) 04 Oct 2020 21:36:29
For clarity, I'm not implying Villa didn't deserve to lead at HT. They just didn't walk all over us in every phase of play like they did in the second half.




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10 Nov 2020 14:56:03
Zed - I'm pretty sure Fabinho's dropped into center half and pushed Gomez to right back in games more than once since he joined (Community Shield, for example) . Conversely, I don't think I've seen him play right back for us ever. Even though he regularly played right back for Monaco.

Personally I don't want to move Gomez out of the center, but I think that's what'll happen unless Klopp uses Williams.



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19 Oct 2020 09:52:22
Even if we could sign Garay, we'd be replacing a player out with a cruciate ligament injury with one recovering from a cruciate ligament injury.

When someone good is on a free, do people not think to check why?



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14 Oct 2020 22:00:50
As far as I can tell this link originates from Paul Robinson suggesting it might be a good idea.



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08 Oct 2020 17:01:00
As far as I know, an U21 can only be in the B squad for Europe if he's been at the club for 2 years or more, hence why we had to register Elliot in the A squad who we bought last year, but not Williams or Jones who've been here since they were kids.

I'm surprised we had room to register Elliot though.

With no Wilson, our senior club trained players in the A list are just Kelleher and Alexander-Arnold. Doesn't that mean we have to leave 2 slots empty and only name a 23 man squad? But we seem to have named 24. Or am I missing something?



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07 Oct 2020 19:26:46
@ Champs

That'd work okay for the Premier League squad, Butland could just take Kelleher's place in it.

But it wouldn't work for the Champions League squad because of the additional requirement that 4 of the 8 Home Grown players are club trained by Liverpool. Or else you leave blank spaces in the squad. Kelleher is one of only 3 senior players we who meet that criteria, so if we dropped him from the CL squad by loaning him out, we'd have to leave his slot blank, and drop another player to put in the non club-trained Butland (or any other goalie apart from Martin Hansen and it's a bit late to sign him) .

And this is before we get to the idea of signing a player because we need him for 6 weeks.




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22 Nov 2020 22:54:05
It could've just been precautionary given how many we already have out. Let's see, eh?



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17 Nov 2020 23:32:06
Remember Roy Evans saying he wanted Desailly before he went to Chelsea. Wonder would it have made a difference.



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17 Nov 2020 12:45:57
"Lots of people want Gerrard"

Who? Cos all I ever see on Liverpool forums when Gerrard is mentioned is fans tripping over themselves to say they don't want him.

I don't really have an opinion on who I want to see replace Klopp at this moment in time, cos all I care about is him staying. I know he won't stay forever, and Pep is well placed from the point of view of continuity, but going from being a #2 to a #1 doesn't always work. And if Klopp stays to the end of his contract, that's 4 years. A lot could happen in that time.



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17 Nov 2020 11:28:36
Between CV and niggles, I think Ireland have had 13 withdrawals from the squad originally called up. And the last window wasn't much better.

Great for a new manager, that.



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16 Nov 2020 11:25:49
4th in the WDC despite missing 2 races. Nearly double the points of Stroll who the media have been praising (tbf Stoll has come along and looks good in qualy, but come Sunday, Perez has usually beaten him) . If Perez gets squeezed out of the sport it'll be a bigger travesty than the enforced departures of Hulkenberg and Kobayashi put together.

At least it looks like Crashjean and K-Mag aren't going to *somehow* stay in for another season, so there's some justice.