17 Jan 2025 18:01:09
Soo, Macca posted about Nunez and Osimhen, but news now is we've turned our attention to the Sporting striker because of Osimhen's wage demands. let's just say i am not shocked. At all actually. Also doubt we have any chance to sign Gyokeres either, the same guy who probably have had contract offers from Chelsea, Man Utd and others already. Unless he's a huge Liverpool fan that is.
17 Jan 2025 18:14:37
Sorry as believable as that sounds, could you post the source? Surely we would’ve already been aware of Osimhen’s salary (or at least had a rough idea) before deciding to target him? Flip flopping again like the summer we are ??.
17 Jan 2025 18:55:22
I read it on a website that's based in Dubai, which is pretty reliable, they say he's Chelsea bound and that he's a huge Chelsea fan. Imagine being a huge Chelsea fan and ask them for 400k a week in the summer, but that negotiations with them never stopped. The article goes on to say we never contacted Napoli or his agent and that we are trying to see if Sporting are willing to negotiate Gyokeres's release clause. Now i am not saying this article is gospel or anything but i usually trust their reports based on arabic or african players because their news is straight from the horse's mouth pr. se. F. eks they were the 1st to report Marmoush to City in late November.
I think Nunez stays and we sign nobody. But that's just my pessimistic take because i mean come on, we're owned by Fenway Sports Group, the same group getting booed in official meet and greats with their own fans (red sox) its actually hilarious, you should check it out.
{Ed001's Note - they are correct about Osimhen being a Chelsea fan.}
17 Jan 2025 18:52:46
Osimhens wages were 400grand when Chelsea wanted him…. we ain’t paying that.
17 Jan 2025 19:27:06
I don't think we're getting anyone personally, This whole 3 contract saga is a mess and we wheel out the same narrative every single window, Its high time we actually acted like a big club when it comes to the squad.
17 Jan 2025 20:33:45
Cant believe anyone seriously believed we’d be seriously in with a shout of Osimhen and Kara whatever he’s called. Our owners are frugal to the point of being parsimonious, no way they’re green lighting any of those without a big sale. Osimhen in particular is a no go due to his wages and outrageous agent demands. It was £500k pw not £400k pw he was asking for. Do you think FSG are sanctioning that? Not while there’s contract disputes ongoing.
Unless we sell Nunez there’s not going to be any forwards coming in and even then I suspect we’d find a way to contrive to mess it up and leave ourselves short, because if any team knows how to self sabotage, it’s us.
I’d also go as far as saying that I reckon next summer will be minimalist as well as the senior management will probably consider that if the squad is good enough to win a title or finish top four then there’s no need to make many changes, if any at all. Don’t say that won’t happen, as it did before.
17 Jan 2025 21:14:27
ViktorVaughan I think Hughes has been bought in to replicate what he has achieved at Bournmouth, with a slightly higher budget. The Fabinho type signing at around 40m who goes on to be a world class addition is the hope.
I don't doubt that we would buy a Caicedo priced player, should they be available, but so many factors are a barrier to that level of signing, as they should be using Darwin as an example.
IF we had Caicedo now, I feel we would be running away with the league, but he chose CFC and that's that.
17 Jan 2025 22:07:22
how can you even write that Viktor? You're telling me If Salah, Van Dijk and Trent leave we're not going to replace them? Seriously dude, give it a rest, we signed Szoboszlai, Macca and Gravenberch in one window. You take it to an extreme which makes it very difficult to take you seriously, i honestly thought you were trolling at one point.
17 Jan 2025 22:25:24
Vango, genuinely think that we’re going to have a very quiet time transfer wise. Even if Arnold, Salah and Van Dijk leave, maybe a free transfer or two, but no significant spending. FSG are doing the same with the Red Sox and Penguins. As long as we can just about qualify for the champions league then we won’t do much.
17 Jan 2025 22:38:09
Honestly I don’t want Osimhen or Gyokeres or that young Greek lad.
Osimhen is MASSIVELY over rated - he’s an average footballer and will be a massive waste for Chelsea.
Gyokeres is just not good enough for the premier league. You need pace or incredible positional sense. He hasn’t got either - average but doing well in a pub league.
The Greek lad is behind Danns for me.
Pay the money for Cunha or keep your powder dry.
17 Jan 2025 22:40:14
Thing is there’s a number of central midfield Caicedo quality players in the world, and none of them play for us and they will be available - at the right price. Everything has a price.
There’s even more who are slightly below Caicedo level, but still better than what we have, where the same applies.
The owners and board recruit the CEO, they recruit the directors, that’s how it works. If the directors aren’t delivering what they want they’ll be gone.
If at the end of the season we finish second, third or fourth, having bought no one better in the key positions in two windows, and the directors are still in the same positions that’ll tell us they’re doing what’s required of them.
{Ed001's Note - Caicedo isn't top level. Without Lavia Chelsea struggle, Caicedo is a step below him.}
17 Jan 2025 22:57:28
Weren’t we after him for a stretch as well Ed…That was pre the observation panel though, which tells us something. You teed that up nicely.
{Ed001's Note - we certainly tried to sign him.}
17 Jan 2025 23:16:19
Lavia getting injured again and Chelsea form dipping is no coincidence.
18 Jan 2025 00:41:32
I like what little I've seen of Lavia. Caceido looks rash to me and that's being polite.
18 Jan 2025 05:59:56
People really need to check accounts before doing their fsg bashing. We posted our second year of losses in a row, neither year breaks psr but it does take much to do it. This is exactly why we can't just buy whoever we want and need to sell to buy
Next season we should have more money to spend thanks to slot doing well in the champions league.
18 Jan 2025 06:13:07
Agree with Ron.
We are sitting in a position where we can be champions of England, and even have a great run in the CL.
If we're serious about this, then go get Cunha, or at least Isak.
These are PL proven players who will take us to the next level
But we find ourselves dilly dallying around people like Osimhen. who surely those in charge are aware of his wage demands, so WHY WASTE OUR TIME WITH HIM?
Ideally, imo, either a CB or DM alongside Grav, and then Cunha/ Isak in this window and I think that will get us over the line wrt winning the league.
18 Jan 2025 07:27:32
Yea just go buy Isak or Cunha mid season, its that easy isn't it.
18 Jan 2025 08:07:19
It’s been said a lot Nevada so all fans know, and it’s true, that we have been making losses for a few years.
We have some headroom, but we’re not sure as fans quite how much, against PSR rules which would allow us to make a buy or several buys depending on the prices and wages.
We all understand it I think.
The frustration with the ownership is (there’s a perception) that the headroom they require us to operate with against PSR is greater than our competitors. They want a bigger buffer because they’re more risk averse, or prefer to keep that capacity untapped.
We don’t know because we’re not in the board room, but if that’s true it makes it harder for us to compete for new players, or upgrade the contracts of existing players.
The knock on impact means of course it’s harder to compete on the pitch ultimately, unless you have a genius manager and an injury free top 14 squad who can eek out amazing results for full seasons. That’s where Arne and Jurgen come into the picture.
We are well run though in the very commercial sense, no doubt about it.
I personally don’t think it’s all about the owners. I think our headroom has been restricted by poor contractual decisions in recent years like giving high contracts to injury prone players, although hopefully those days are behind us, and a few indifferent buys like Nunez have left us with less room to manoeuvre. Missing Champions League was big as well. All that means is the current transfer and contract approach has to be spot on, we’re not feeling it at the moment.
18 Jan 2025 13:15:14
The reason why Liverpool will probably not make any signings is because our squad is virtually maxed out when it comes to the Premier League 25 man squad rules. Currently we have 16 non-homegrown players on the books which includes Marmadasvilli. Clubs are only allowed to register 17 non-homegrown players. Our 8 homegrown spots are filled as well so if we don't make any signings in January it won't be because the club does not want to buy players.
It is more likely that Slot will review exactly what he needs in the summer and then whoever he feels needs to go will be replaced pending if those players can be sold. The club cannot make use of players which are not allowed to be registered.
{Ed001's Note - nonsense, they have spaces in the squad.}
18 Jan 2025 13:36:10
It’ll be back to normal next season when city spend another suitcase full of money and we ponder if or not to buy anyone.
The club is obviously too big for FSG now so it’s about time they looked at selling.
The contract situation is embarrassing to say the least and I for one am convinced all 3 will go in the summer.
18 Jan 2025 14:04:04
At the moment we have two spaces. Currently 15 registered non-homegrown players. Alisson, Virgil, Robertson, Konate, Tsimikas, Endo, Gravy, Macca, Szobo, Diaz, Salah, Gakpo, Chiesa, Nunez and Jota. Marmadasvilli already occupies a spot for next season which makes it 16 non-homegrown players on the books. The club is not going to use Marmadasvilli's spot as we will have to sell a player because he can't be used. So, only really one spot available. Our 8 homegrown spots are filled too. Jaros, Quansah, Elliot, Jones, Kelleher, Morton, Bradley and Gomez.
{Ed001's Note - and a lot of those will move before the summer.}
18 Jan 2025 14:55:30
Why. We making losses then?
19 Jan 2025 09:18:23
gyokeres has no pace or positional sense? have you actually seen him play or just making stuff up about him because he's a muscular lad who doesn't look as fast and mobile as he is?