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05 Feb 2021 10:00:41
Morning everyone. Just read on the BBC Liverpool vs Leipzig cannot go ahead according to UEFA. Why are we still having international competitions? Yes it's sad but clearly inappropriate at this time. Is it a money thing thing as usual Eds?
{Ed001's Note - no.}
1.) 05 Feb 2021 10:19:51
Because their name isn’t Bayern Munich.
{Ed001's Note - it has nothing to do with Bayern. What are you wittering on about? RBL can leave Germany at any time, just like Bayern have, it is foreign teams entering the country that is the issue.}
2.) 05 Feb 2021 10:58:26
Well put, Ed01.
3.) 05 Feb 2021 10:58:33
Isn't it a problem if our players leave that on return they would have 10 days of isolation?
{Ed001's Note - no, the same restrictions do not apply in England to elite sport.}
16 Jul 2020 09:18:29
Hi Eds,
Hope you're all well. I wondered if you had any insights into Liverpools academy and how it compares to the likes of United's/ Chelsea's. Chelsea especially this season seem to have promoted a fair few youth players who have adjusted very well to the prem, yet overall when I've seen Liverpool youngsters play, they don't seem as comfortable. Billy Gilmore played very well against us in the FA cup I believe. Is there a reason why or am I just being too negative?
{Ed001's Note - you are just being negative. Have you forgotten where Trent came from? The world's best right-back has just come from our academy in the last couple of years and you are criticising it!}
1.) 16 Jul 2020 09:55:43
Williams looks to have just as much potential as Trent, the kid is class, add Jones into that too and we could have a couple of diamonds there.
2.) 16 Jul 2020 10:54:26
Err Curtis Jones, OP?
3.) 16 Jul 2020 11:18:36
Billy gilmour was also bought from rangers 2 years ago. I know most of the best exports from our academy were also bought eg sterling but TAA, neco and Curtis have been with Liverpool since 8 years old that's the academy doing its job in its truest form buying unbelievably talented 14-16 year olds no doubt has better more regular and reliable results but judge the academy on the players that make it all the way through not the ones that get cherry picked then polished for a year or two.
4.) 16 Jul 2020 18:45:38
Thanks for all the replies guys! Of course I did not forget Trent, just struggled to think other than him who else has come the whole way through? United seem to make fowards, with Rashy and Greenwood.
06 Apr 2020 21:55:59
Thanks for the reply Eds, can't directly reply. Doesn't surprise me a team used the media to unsettle targets. I know Liverpool are definitely guilty of poor behaviour, really disappointing teams who should be role models stoop to such low levels.
Hope Sancho doesn't go to United, Bruno looks like an absolute steal, granted only playing a handful of games. If Sancho replicates his Bundesliga form and he moves to the UK and goes to United they are starting to build a half decent side!
Hope you have a great week!
{Ed002's Note - Have a great time.}
06 Apr 2020 11:52:05
Hi Eds, hope you're well. I actually had a question about what constitutes as tapping up. This isn't about whether Liverpool did it or not! (clearly did) .
In the media you generally read the same stories over and over again about x club wanting x player, then you see additional stories like z player at x club has talked to the intended target x player asking them to join x club. Then you see stories about ex players or current members of staff at x club whilst anonymised has told some journalist or sports website this certain player has made comments about joining them, or you hear this certain player has made comments to family/ team mages/ national team mates about wanting to join x club in the summer etc. Why is this not considered when tapping up?
I know it's hard to control the media, but I'm not saying this is right and 100% I do not agree with this, but if I wanted to unsettle a player and do it "legally" unless this is currently incorrect, why not bombard the media with stories and rumours, both in your country and the target players saying all the above. Surely having a player receive that constantly for a few months if not longer could have a similar effect of a club contacting a player without the players current club being notified.
The second question I had is there anything stopping players from influencing teammates to join their club whilst they are together say training for international breaks. It's clear from reading these posts no club can contact a player about moving to them without going through the legal channels. But what is legally considered the club? Surely players are also considered under this?
I can think of an example in relation to Jadon Sancho being in an environment with several players from the Manchester clubs, Chelsea and Liverpool, could have been talking to him during England training about coming to them, maybe saying the club will pay you this, get you this etc. Not saying they have , but giving it as an example. Is this also considered tapping up?
If not why is this deemed a less effective/ illegal strategy than say a manager talking to a player, because effectively a "club" is still covertly trying to influence a player to join them, just via players rather than phone calls from the club.
Apologies if this post was hard to follow! Thanks in advance eds.
{Ed002's Note - Unsettling players by a club using the media is entirely unprofessional and shows tha lack of respect for players, the clubs and their staff. One club in particular gathered a handfull of "trusted" members of the press and briefed them about four intended targets and lost a great deal of respect for it. Unacceptable.
Players talking with players they know at other clubs is the norm and no doubt they send messages to each other regularly and play Leisure Suit Larry or whatever on the internet together or whatever they do. This is not an issue for anyone.
I can think however of one club that famously gave their captain the phone numbers of targets so he could contact these players he didn't know and talk to them about joining. This is tapping up and is illegal.
Players do not have a great deal of influence over transfers and certainly do not suggest what clubs will pay them at all.. Jadon Sancho is a Chelsea supporter and have been close to a number of players throughout his career playing regularly at international level with a number of Chelsea players throughout his career. He will know Manchester City players from his time there etc.. The reason Jadon Sancho has not agreed to join Chelsea as a result of a number of meetings with his agent and Chelsea understanding what Borussia Dortmund want from a deal is nothing to do with discussions he has had with Manchester United or any other club's players. It is not considered tapping up.
Coaches or clubs making a direct approach to a player without the permission of his club is a very serious matter indeed - it can lead to severe punishments and the game has tried to eradicate it.}
11 Dec 2019 12:02:13
Hi Eds,
Watched part of the game last night. What do you think of our midfield? I think sometimes they get cut apart to easily, but I think as a overall unit with flexibility, they could be in the top 10 of mid fields currently in all major leagues. Klopp seems to integrate and change players and the midfield currently seems to perform well. Keita has had two good performances, Fabs was smashing it, Wijnadulm is very consistent, Hendo is playing well. Lallana was good before his injury, Milner is still solid and the Ox is doing okay, scoring and showing good drve and energy I'm hesitant to say they are world class. As other than Fabs I don't think they midfield has world class players, rather how they play together is what would make people perceive them as world class. Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I've probably made some gross assumptions which are miles off the mark!
{Ed001's Note - they very rarely get cut apart, that is what is so good about them. That is why most teams play balls in behind the defence when they attack us.}
1.) 11 Dec 2019 12:36:33
I think Liverpool today are one of the world's best teams. If you're one of the world's very best teams you are world class. Let's put it this way. Which TEAMS are world class? Liverpool must be classed as that.
We have a world class gk, world class defence (may not have a million clean sheets but got a hell of a lot of assists and barely a loss in a year)
A world class midfield and a world class forward line.
Players like hendo and gini are always overlooked when people talk about "world class" because they graft. They do the dirty work. It's not all slide rule passes and stevie g tackles, pirlo passes.
I bet you this, no teams enjoy facing our midfield. They can all pass, can all keep the ball well under heavy pressure, AND keep their head up and pick a pass. And they're all capable of scoring if the opposition takes their eyes off them. It gives the front three that little bit of space.
I remember when we signed the ox, or gini. People weren't overwhelmed to say the least. But when jorginio was for sale people were drooling over him. Why? I wouldn't swap gini for 2 jorginio, or the ox for 2 jorginios
With keita and aoc I don't think we need an attacking mid like some say. I think our midfield is the most important factor. The defence and attack speak for themselves. We need to be careful not to weaken our strong midfield. I wouldn't take coutinio on a free transfer now.
2.) 11 Dec 2019 13:23:31
when do we get "cut apart"?
3.) 11 Dec 2019 16:18:33
Apologies, poor choice of wording, sometimes I feel teams can pass through our midfield too easily, however as many of you had pointed out, we rarely get cut apart, so I'm probably just too much of a pessimist aha, thanks for the reply Eds! Hope you have a good day.
{Ed001's Note - no worries mate take care.}
4.) 11 Dec 2019 18:25:28
They pass over the midfield because no one wants to play through them.
5.) 11 Dec 2019 18:44:23
OP, I fully agree with you that they pass thru our midfield however that can only happen if they play thru our press or on the odd occasion, we are out of position when we lose the ball. All of these things can happen during a game which is why our defence can look exposed at times. Play through us in midfield? No team can do that against us on a consistent level. Even City and Barcelona can't do that. Spurs lost the CL final for this reason exactly.
6.) 11 Dec 2019 20:27:14
I’m looking forward to adding Grujic next season as well.
7.) 12 Dec 2019 08:52:57
could be one of the top 10 midfields?
We are champions of Europe!
8.) 12 Dec 2019 10:46:28
maybe more so the season before last, I would agree that our midfield was very prone to being passed by. IMO it was mostly due to a naievity in the way some of our players would press. Milner was a shocker at this, pressing hard and then getting beating by a little 1-2, or tuck around the corner.
anyways, that has been reduced considerably these days. But I must say, a simple 1-2 or smart angles can cut through the best midfielders around. Football can be a simple game sometimes!
24 Nov 2021 12:05:16
I think Wolves will get him, I fancied him before he went to RBL, looked a great player against us when we played Salzburg. Minamino was the standout for me though.
26 Aug 2021 11:09:49
I think we have done okay. Like Eds say, if there aren't funds available then we need to do better with the players we have. Bringing Elliot in albeit it only has been 2 games looks very smart. So far we haven't had issues scoring goals and two clean sheets with only Robbo injured. If we beat Chelsea who are going to be a very hard test, I think that speaks for itself the current squad can win the league.
We have the same team that won the CL/ PL just albeit a bit older. All our front four have scored already, but we have arguably a better CB in Konate than Lovren. Tsimikas is likely an upgrade on Albie and Elliot has helped fill the gap Wijnaldum left. Originally I felt a little skeptical just signing Konate, but seeing what we have managed to do in terms of shipping players out and adding Jota/ Thiago. I'm pretty excited for this upcoming season!
11 Jul 2021 12:32:24
We should take £10 million and move on.
27 Jun 2021 21:19:55
Selling Philips would be a huge oversight, he seems pretty robust and we need a CB who stays fit. Honestly I am unsure ether Joe, Matip and VVD will be ready for the start in August, Philips has played so many games for us and I for one would feel very relieved seeing him start with Konate if our main CB aren't fit and aren't at risk of injury.
17 Jun 2021 20:02:12
Fair play, hope he gets in somewhere, MLS would be a good idea tbf. He's always been a class lad and was gutted he got injured. I still remember that 90 minute goal Vs Chelsea a few years ago.
{Ed025's Note - waste of space if you ask me, absolute piss taker in his last few seasons and spent more time on the treatment table than the pitch RH..
21 Jul 2021 14:49:33
Not familiar with Bowen as a player, but if we could get him relatively cheaply in addition to other players such as Bissouma, I wouldn't mind. 8 goals in 40 apps isn't the best tally, but not the worst! I imagine he'd score a few more with us. Although I don't think spending £25 Million on him would be a smart siging IF we could get someone in like Malen for a similar price. We have Elliot already who can play on the wing an was fantastic for Blackburn last season. We also have Minamino and Shaq still at the club. If we end up selling either for 15 million (more likely Shaq) maybe we could get Bowen in.
19 Jul 2021 20:33:50
Is a good post Dar, maybe all the big clubs should be paying back at grass roots if they're taking some local clubs players on. I played a tiny bit of youth footy back in the day, was rubbish at it, but even 1K for one of our lads would have paid for so much equipment. I definitely agree compensation to the parents too. My mum and Dad used to drive my Brother all over Preston and Lancashire to play and couldn't have been cheap!
{Ed0666's Note - I know Preston very well used to live there. Had a massive brawl there which was something out of Gangs of New York! Let’s just say it was sons of immigrants 1 fascist scumbag thugs 0
18 Jun 2021 14:47:19
If he does, I'm gutted. We could have afforded him and he looks pretty class.
{Ed002's Note - How many games would he have got?}
16 Jun 2021 10:01:14
I'd be gutted if we sold him. It just seems to make too much sense to keep him, HG and cost us nothing.
15 Jun 2021 10:14:16
Thanks Eds :)