27 Jun 2021 19:09:09
Burnley making a move for Phillips Eds? Great move for him.

{Ed002's Note - Nat Phillips (CB) Burnley are keen and Liverpool will look to cash in and hang on to Matip which seems like a short-term plan to me. Liverpool need to be careful over the asking price as they are now smarting from rejections from other clubs for players where they asre asking too much.}

1.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 19:29:30
Ah by the time Matip goes Sepp VDB will be ready! perfect forward planning.

2.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 19:52:00
Hope Philips goes on to great things! He was a Trojan for us I wish him nottin but the best!

3.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 19:55:34
Not if we get injuries to Matip, Gomez, Konate and VVD, which is not beyond the realms of possibilities given last season and the injury records of messers Matip, Gomez and Konate. I think we’d be truly up sh*t creak without a paddle. Matip should be the one moving on. I’ll wager that Phillips will be flogged by Burnley in a couple of years time for £40m while we’re still rolling our eyes at Matip injuring himself tying his shoelaces in the warm up and missing half the season for it.

4.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 20:00:05
Hope he has a great career. but that will only be possible if he makes a move! And we need the money its a win win.

5.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 21:01:10
Jadon we need rid of Matip he’s a flake that’s what we need!

6.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 21:13:32
I know that it’s pretty conclusive on these boards that we should sell Matip and keep Phillips - I agree too.

However, Klopp is quite adamant that he won’t sell Matip - the Ed’s have said so before.

It’s was interesting to hear that Matip is one of the leaders in the dressing room, and I don’t think any of us would argue that the only ability that Phillips shades over Matip is availability.

I’m therefore happy for Phillips to move on. I don’t think he’s a £40m player and his price won’t probably be higher than it is now. Thank you Nat and good luck for the future 👍

Btw, I can also see Van Den Berg stepping in when Matip leaves.

7.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 21:19:55
Selling Philips would be a huge oversight, he seems pretty robust and we need a CB who stays fit. Honestly I am unsure ether Joe, Matip and VVD will be ready for the start in August, Philips has played so many games for us and I for one would feel very relieved seeing him start with Konate if our main CB aren't fit and aren't at risk of injury.

8.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 21:30:26
Unfortunately we need the money and I agree his value is now at its highest. Klopp must be confident in his cb’s if he authorised the sale.

9.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 21:32:15
To be a good professional footballer availability is definitely a trait required.

10.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 21:35:45
Mark my words, two or three years of being Burnley’s defensive rock will earn him a big money move. There’s still a very competitive market for big English centre backs who stick their head on anything and have a slightly more agricultural approach, see Tarkowski, Keane, Mings et al.

11.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 22:06:07
Why do Liverpool constantly balls up sales of players by over pricing them? It happens every season🤷‍♂️.

{Ed025's Note - its called greed barry mate..

12.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 22:06:22
Matip is world class when fit, and likely not on huge wages, PLUS he was free. He makes sense as a back up/ rotation player as he is quite brilliant.
As for over pricing players, Edwards is going to need to bite the bullet a little in these times as we really do need a big clear out. JK has 3 years left and will not renew. If we want him to build the next phase of his LFC legacy before he leaves we need to be efficient and ruthless in the market.

{Ed025's Note - matip has never and will never be world class spaceman, a total flake who is out for 3 months with a headache mate...total fraud..

13.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 21:47:28
Ed’s do you think it’s a case of no one is interested in matip or klopp doesn’t want to sell?

{Ed025's Note - there is definitely interest SR...from doctors studying hypochondria mate.. :)

14.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 22:08:47
Hope the club have the foresight to include a 25% sell on clause then VVVV.

15.) 27 Jun 2021
27 Jun 2021 22:37:36
All the best to him. Most improved player and biggest shock this season. Could be a move we come to regret but like the posters say we need the dosh.

16.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 00:25:51
Spaceman is correct, Matip is a brilliant player, definitely one of the best cbs in Europe. Not his fault he keeps getting injured.

{Ed077's Note - you aren't serious right??

17.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 01:02:30
Premier league is the best league. and WHEN FIT Matip is in the top handful of centrehalfs in it! top player despite what Mr Bitter says. dats why phillips has to move.

18.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 02:31:48
If I knew that Matip was going to be injured for the next 2 years, I'd still prefer we sell Nat in the hope he finds a home as one of 2 first choice CBs and grow into his full potential.

19.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 06:47:26
Can we see this from Phillips point of view? Phillips has had a taste of first team football so probably doesn't want to be 4th or 5th choice.

Let the lad go and have a decent career hopefully. We can reinvest the money elsewhere.

As for matip, he's definitely not world class and is probably our 3rd best defender, 4th if konate lives up to the hype. But he is great cover and due to his injury record, he's good for that role.

20.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 08:03:24
Phillips is championship quality with the heart of a balon dor winner. Hope he smashes it wherever he goes but im not sure he's good enough for Liverpool.

21.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 08:13:01
I totally agree B teeth.

22.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 09:15:32
Phillips did well for us this season, and have proven quality at least over a short time. However I think we keep hearing about the emerging issue of HG quota. wouldn't Philips, Jones and maybe Willams be the ones to keep to bolster that quota?

23.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 09:27:06
Matip is a top cb when fit, easily in the top 10 in Europe for me, I don't get people some days, he was absolutely quality alongside vvd when he was sound and fit, but granted those days are few and far between now, think ill have the opinion of my own eyes that watch every single game as opposed to a fan of another club who sees us now and then ;)
Phillips won't get many games if that lot are fit, good luck to the lad I say.

24.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 10:12:28
U have to play to be the best a good game here and there doesn’t cut it! Matip is a joke along with Keita and a few other sick notes they need to be sold!
No more of this sentimental Carry on we seen what it done to us last season! Same 14/ 15 players dragging us through while the sick notes claim their thousands a wk and have there calf’s rubbed by Lisa in the physio room!

25.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 10:32:02
There’s no doubt about the fact that Matip is a quality centre back when fit (NOT world class, that’s just ridiculous hyperbole), but there’s the caveat WHEN FIT. He’s injured more often than not so can’t be relied upon either as a starter or back up, I’m pretty sure he’s injured himself once during a warm up before a match, so really the sensible thing would be to move on the injury prone foreign player and keep the more durable home grown player.

26.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 10:33:59
Matip is quality when fir, his fitness is his only issue, he’d walk in to almost every premier league team, as fans were quick to jump on his and Gomez back, both are top defenders and at the higher end of the spectrum when it comes to premier league defenders.

27.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 10:42:52
No idea how some people think an injury prone player suits being backup - we really needed him last season but again he was hardly ever available. Yes he is very good but he's injured far too often.

28.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 12:04:05
I'd opt to keep Phillips. No idea why we'd sell someone like him.

{Ed002's Note - Because Klopp wants to keep Matip and Liverpool need to raise funds.}

29.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 13:04:30
Philips is also limited in his passing ability and not quick, he does not fit in with our style of play at all.
The 4 remaining CBs are about the best in the PL as a collective in my view.
Phillips did well to stand in like he did but I have always felt it’s best all round that he moves on.

30.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 13:26:05
I don't get klopp back klopp himself was a player like philips. He saved our season last year. This is ridiculous
I have a shambles feeling about next season. Something is not right at liverpool. I have had this feeling since the esl fiasco. Something is very off.

31.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 14:51:03
It took longer than I thought lol. Welcome back Harry.

32.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 14:59:39
In fairness I have never seen anyone play with the passion and commitment towards the badge, if we had 11 players with Nats passion we'd win the premier League every year. For that reason alone he deserves a longer shot and for all the other reasons.

33.) 28 Jun 2021
28 Jun 2021 16:19:06
Ed25 Everton have been a fraud for the last 30 odd years, yet the bitters still pipe up.

{Ed025's Note - bitters is not nice MR, you only call us that because we tell the truth about your lot mate..

34.) 29 Jun 2021
29 Jun 2021 15:54:33
Sell Matip n keep Phillips. Matip can't play two consecutive games, the guy's made of plastic.

35.) 30 Jun 2021
30 Jun 2021 11:00:11
ED25, so how does Matip having a poor injury record, have anything to do with his ability as a footballer? You do know that those are two separate thing, correct? Not saying he is world class BUT this strange notion that cos a player has a poor injury record means he is useless in terms of ability is just insane. Thoughts, Ed25?

{Ed025's Note - i did not say he was a bad player oli, hes decent enough but his injury record is woeful so not a viable option in my view mate..

36.) 02 Jul 2021
02 Jul 2021 09:19:10
Selling Philips makes sense. He's shown the world he's good enough for a Premier League team, but realistically he'll spend next season not even warming up the bench with Gomez/ vanDijk/ Konate/ Matip rotating major league and cup games. Fabinho and Rhys Williams (who has also done well) will probably be more than enough CB cover in a non-freak season, you simply can't plan everything around the possibility of two first teams' worth of CBs getting injured all at once. Philips deserves a shot at a permanent CB spot in another PL team, in my humble opinion - and the money we'll collect from the sale will be hugely important in strengthening other areas of the team.