20 Oct 2025 19:26:43
People calling for Salahs head
Maybe understand he is being told
To stay in the touchline
Same as gakpo
While Macca szobos and Isak create that diamond in the middle so it's like 5 across the top
Salah so wide is not a threat and easy to defend against
That's the reason!
It's slot fault.
20 Oct 2025 19:37:53
Against both Chelsea and United, Salah was given the ball multiple times in great areas and in both games he couldn't hit a barn door, that's on Salah, stop making excuses for poor performances.
20 Oct 2025 19:50:19
I'm with you Thunderbird. It is, however, on Slot's head for keep picking him. Salah's form dropped towards the end of last season, and it's got worse this season. Excuses keep being dished out, saying it's because Trent left, it's the way we're set up, dah de dah.
All utter tosh, it's down to him. He's in the top 3 of our all time greatest players, but, and I hope I'm wrong, I think he's gone. I wouldn't have been against him going in the summer, because it will be sad to see this version of Salah play out the rest of this season.
20 Oct 2025 19:59:55
I’d argue the whole squad at the moment is underachieving. Individually we’re not defending well and our attacking players are wasting numerous chances. If we take our chances against Man U we win. Granted we’re not a great watch at the moment but goals change games and we’re not taking our chances.
20 Oct 2025 20:18:38
He has never been asked to do anything not under slot or under Klopp. Salah and vvd have fallen levels in pace. Its so evident.
Things will get better i assure you of that.
. When we had the money and that too almost half a billion to spend on squad we should not handed out ridiculous contracts to both of them at this stage of their career especially when at best they had just one full season of top level football in them.
Early days but what everyone feared is coming true. Vvd and salah have fallen levels off after securing their fat contracts.
Liverpool were well advised by an external party to not hand new contracts and invest in 3 certain players for future and we were leaning in that direction and club including the coach were prepared for it. Then one fine day almost immediately everything got agreed and new contracts were offered in two weeks. It was a shock to even the players. What was mind boggling is that the same offer never came for a certain player (who best deserved it)
Time will tell if hughes got this whole contract thing wrong and i believe it is what carra is talking about things being a little weird off the pitxh.
20 Oct 2025 20:27:27
Interesting that Akira has never mentioned any of this and as soon as Carra says something he appears to have all of the inside scoop.
20 Oct 2025 20:40:45
@Akira, Carra comes off to me like one who says a lot of stuff just like throwing stuff of the wall to see which one sticks. Not sure he has any inside info the same way Ed01 does cos I know who I would listen to btw both of them and it won't be Jaime Carragher.
"Things being weird off the pitch" is a statement anyone of us can make on this forum under these circumstances. Personally, I take what pundits say with even less of a grain of salt esp. cos people like Carra and Neville often make statements depending on where the wind is blowing. Soon as that changes, they'll flip.
{Ed025's Note - i think you are wrong about Carra Oli, he has always seemed genuine to and gave some great information during the last window, the fact that you may not want to hear what he said may be clouding your judgement mate..
20 Oct 2025 20:51:13
Ed0025 I think Oli is on about Carra as in Jamie Carragher not the poster Carra.
{Ed025's Note - oh right, my bad then JK...sorry Oli..
20 Oct 2025 21:00:06
Think it’s the other way round, carra gives information then others seem to jump on. he's trumped everyone on info in my eyes.
20 Oct 2025 21:01:40
No idea.
Its just my opinion. I had informed same in January. Contracts were offered but and declined by both players and the sudden jump was not expected.
Then the summer happened and the contracts just didn’t made any financial sense at all in hindsight. If we had half a billion pounds surely we could replace both salah and vvd and still add what we added in summer.
However, i also still maintain club and players have not moved over the loss of Jota and it appears that the fanbase has.
I would attribute especially Salah’s downturn to the loss of his dearest friend jota. Its tough very very tough to cope with that. But if you have suffered loss you can empathise with that. All said these players are still pretty young and you cannot expect everyone to cope and be ready day in day out.
20 Oct 2025 21:05:01
Thunderbird
He is talking out of his pipe.
20 Oct 2025 21:06:02
Salah has to stay wide now as we are playing with a number 9 instead of the false 9 he’s been used to. If he takes up the same positions he’s always taken up he’ll just crowd Isak and nullify both of them.
We’ve tried playing with a number 9 before and it hasn’t worked which is why Slot reverted to Diaz in that position last season.
Now we’ve spent big on 2 out and out strikers though it’s just something Salah will have to get used to. He’s not the main man anymore.
20 Oct 2025 21:06:30
Doesn’t matter where Monis, he dribbles into defenders legs more often than not and has been doing that for ages not just this season.
20 Oct 2025 21:10:26
Salah was Player of the Season and PL top scorer less than six months ago.
20 Oct 2025 21:47:25
He was, Rigsby, but his form the last few months of the season dropped.
20 Oct 2025 22:24:23
VVD is still by a big margin our top defender . this year he's had to deal with bambi on ice Konate. 2 new fullbacks . a different grav position n the forwards not be able to hold a ball. id say VVD is still worth every penny.
20 Oct 2025 22:25:38
yes Rigsby, and I know it's a difficult argument to make. But the Mo we're seeing now is the Mo we've seen for many seasons just minus the lightening strike moments of a goal.
20 Oct 2025 22:26:38
Or does Oli think that Carra the poster is actually Jamie Carragher?
20 Oct 2025 22:43:18
Rome, you're right, it did. But I'm talking about over a season and the previous seasons Salah has had with us. I can't see how people are questioning a player getting a new contract when he was Player of the Season and the League's top scorer when we went on to win the title.
We should also remember that the team as a whole dropped because the title was wrapped up relatively early. And Salah does usually have a quiet spell or two in a season but he's been our top scorer in every season he's been with the club.
Akira, how can we have the benefit of hindsight regarding the new contracts when they are both at the beginning of those contracts?
20 Oct 2025 23:25:13
I don't agree that Virgil has fallen way off. I think Mo will be back. Does Slot try to play him back into form? I wouldn't. He can sub in and earn his place back.
I'd like to see Wirtz behind Isak and Ekitke. All three very capable link up players who like to play at speed. Drop Gakpo Salah keep the mid 3 from last year rotate with Jones who's been one of our better players this season. Get the full backs up the pitch. We'll look like a Klopp team I think that's what we all want to see.
20 Oct 2025 23:31:51
I have to agree Rigsby. Salah has had these spells before more than once when everyone is questioning him and his form drops off a cliff.
So far in His Liverpool career he’s always turned it around. I guess the argument could be his age but he has class and that is permanent.
He will have to change his role in the team as we won’t be playing with a false 9 anymore so he will be more of a winger but he still has it in him to affect games from there and he will.
Whenever he’s been questioned before he’s proved everyone wrong. I’m sure he’ll do it again.
21 Oct 2025 01:16:57
Many of the greats lose it really quickly, usually one final injury does for them or the legs just go. With Mo it seems to be as much that his hunger and sharpness mentally have gone, his pace has been going for a while. Virgil is still worthy of a place physically, but I’m not sure he’s as tuned in either and seems to be caught out of position more often than he used to.
With both it looks like they’ve also just lost that edge of invincibility that they had. Losing Ali again has also been a big miss for us when we’re trying settle in new players.
21 Oct 2025 03:38:44
Wasn’t the world going to end in those far off days of May 2025 when we hadn’t signed Salah and VVD up on new contracts? Interesting turn of events eh?
21 Oct 2025 04:41:00
WDW we all have short memories as fans for sure. We all wanted them signed along w Trent. Without Mo last season we didn't win the league.
Mo is missing chances he would have put away in the past. His passing is poor (when he passes) and he's lost a yard or two the last couple of seasons.
I think his form is temporary but I also think his role has changed limiting his impact. Klopp played him to wide 2-3 seasons ago and it was the same then his numbers went down. So not entirely down to Mo. He may not like the way we are setting up and playing this season so it may be affecting his form idk.
Last season Slot often praised the squad and said it would be hard to improve. Well I would argue it's improved and it's his job to make it work.
21 Oct 2025 04:44:00
Akira, I take it that player you mention was Diaz?
21 Oct 2025 06:28:32
I don’t think Salah has ever been as bad as he is showing right now. Sure he’s had periods of maybe not scoring, being a little greedy etc but this form of Salah is unrecognisable.
21 Oct 2025 06:46:22
In fairness though Salah only played with a false 9 for half a season last year and then before that it was the Bobby years.
Jota and Darwin definitely weren’t false 9’s.
21 Oct 2025 07:03:14
Yes. Luiz diaz.
21 Oct 2025 07:20:46
Ridiculous that so many people are coming on here saying they didn't want us to re-sign Mo, where were all these people when he was banging them in and assisting for fun last year?
He's having a bad patch, he will be back, he always plays better when he has something to prove. Maybe if he sits on the bench for a game or two coming on for 20-30 mins at the end, it will light a fire in him.
And as bad as a game as he had against United, he put Gakpo through on goal with a beautifully weighted pass. On another day that's an assist, and the volley he had at the back pass, 95% of the time that's a certainty of a goal for Mo.
21 Oct 2025 10:40:54
No qualms, Ed25. I was referring to the pundit, not to Carra the poster. All good, man.
{Ed025's Note - sound Oli, in future can you please refer to him as Carragher please, or spit the dog will do mate.. :)