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21 Apr 2021 11:38:43
I feel its funny how some LFC "fans" are now open to forgiving FSG for this latest blunder.
There has been many postives in their ownership over the years, but how much of this has been down to them or down to the managment team (I. E Klopp)
FSG have done good things but will always be remembered for the bad things too, and this one was a step to far.
The apology is nonsense, this isn't "FAN POWER" this is purely down to the threats from the governing bodys and LFC and MUTD misrepresenting the project to other teams.
The fans could revolt all they wanted they would just sell the tickets to corporates and probably make even more money.
This was about increasing the level of income to these already rich people, this wasnt going to lead to the Mbappes of the world signing, it was purely to line their pockets prior to selling.
FSG have to go, and there is no time like the present in order to do it.
1.) 21 Apr 2021 11:46:50
I agree Klopp, this was the latest in many gaffs. The first couple mistakes can be overlooked, but gaff after gaff after gaff. One is an accident, two is a trend and to me they have to go. How that happens, I have no idea, but to me the little trust that was left, is gone.
2.) 21 Apr 2021 11:51:41
I don't think it's case of forgiving them, it's just a case of being wary of who are these alternative owners that everyone seems convinced are waiting in the wings to pay the money FSG will want for us?
3.) 21 Apr 2021 11:53:59
Yes let's get rid of FSG. We could end up with really good owners like Hicks and Gillette.
4.) 21 Apr 2021 12:25:22
Who do u want to replace FSG with, an Arab billionaire (no we don't want you be like Man city), Russian mafia ( we don't want to be Chelsea) but we want to spend 300 million on players every window and compete with the likes of City, Utd, Madrid, Barca, Psg.
5.) 21 Apr 2021 12:27:44
Or we could end up with owners who actually will do the right thing. Hicks and gilellet get a lot of stick for just running out of money and then falling out with each other.
6.) 21 Apr 2021 12:30:19
Completely agree Klopp. FSG need to go and I’m quite adamant on that. The apology was like getting caught cheating on your other half. Only apologising because you got caught or in their case because the idea of the Super League didn’t go according to plan. If other clubs pressed ahead with this breakaway we would have as well and there would be no apology or pulling out. Only snag is finding an owner with the resources to buy us at the current valuation, who don’t have a merky past and has the clubs best interests at the forefront. Easier said than done hey.
7.) 21 Apr 2021 12:47:25
"Owners who will actually do the right thing". That's the root of all issues and definitely where all the problems start. How can anyone successfully argue that the right thing for the owners is also the right thing for the supporters? It rarely is. The motivations for both are usually diametrically opposed. And it's a very fine line trying to find common ground. Therefore, who gets to decide any and all course of action? The owners who put their own money up? Or the supporters who are loyal visitors on weekends? To most the answer is obvious, but it's not how everyone thinks or behaves.
8.) 21 Apr 2021 13:44:07
Spot on, Crazy horse316. "Owners who will do the right thing". According to who? What would be the right thing that all the fans would agree with? Spend 300m every window? If FSG were to go then, what type of owners would we want?
FSG is going nowhere except there is a buyer and till that happens, we are stuck with them so what we need to do now, is to mount a lot of pressure on them to get things right and remain vigilant and keep an eye on them. That is the part we can control as fans. All the other stuff except of course, you have the cash to buy them out, is all futile rhetoric that will go nowhere.
{Ed001's Note - well then let's just let the ****s ruin our reputation and destroy our club shall we? I can't believe anyone can defend the scumbags right now. This apathetic crap is why nothing will happen because apologists like you will just sit on your hands waiting for someone else to pay the money. Scousers have never stood by and let things happen. We have always fought for what is right, no matter how much time it takes.}
9.) 21 Apr 2021 13:48:37
Finding an owner with a good moral compass that wants what is best for fans will NEVER happen. The people that have the sort of money to invest are business men/ women, super rich dodgy Russians and Saudi princes, they have those amounts of money because they are shrewd and selfish, they make decision that have their portfolios best invests at heart.
10.) 21 Apr 2021 13:04:40
There are plenty of owners out there doing the right thing for the clubs they own. Trying to take the football away from the fans and shafting us after years of commitment isn’t the right thing to do but fsg clearly think it was. To say they did this for the fans is utter bs. Why did Bayern and the German clubs say to get lost as the people running them are doing the right thing!
11.) 21 Apr 2021 16:09:05
Also are all arabs and russians dodgy? seems to be the thinking of most on here.
{Ed0666's Note - exactly just typifies the crazy world we live in that xenophobia is the primary thought from some when we think about folks from other countries
18 Mar 2021 17:04:36
southgate saying Trent ain't good enough for RB in england squad, prob best RB in world over last 18 months and he ain't good enough, quit england mate your too good for the morons!
{Ed0666's Note - Why is the discussion about Trent not being good enough for England and not Southgate not being good enough to coach England? Southgate has a plethora of talent at his disposal probably some of the most prodigious talents this country’s ever produced and he’s preparing them to fail every time he takes a coaching session.
1.) 18 Mar 2021 17:20:58
Im quite happy. no point in playing some pointless national matches.
2.) 18 Mar 2021 17:22:30
Isn't Trippier banned for 3 months? How can he be playing well enough? Southgate hasn't the brains to manage at any level.
{Ed077's Note - he returned for the Madrid derby a few weeks ago.}
3.) 18 Mar 2021 17:48:24
I’m glad that Alan Partridge, I mean Gareth Southgate hasn’t picked TAA, lad could do with a break. International football is meaningless nonsense anyway.
4.) 18 Mar 2021 18:01:39
I don't understand why people are getting so upset over this. Unless it's a major tournament I'd rather Liverpool players didn't play for their national teams.
At this point in the season I'd rather Trent have a couple of weeks off than play 3 games in a week for England.
5.) 18 Mar 2021 18:19:53
Pardon my Spanish, but southgate is a gobsh##te. Glad trent gets a rest though, and as an irishman it doesn't bother me in the slightest, but for southgate to say he has a plethora of talent in the rb position is absolute boll#x. Wish there was journalist, journalistic enough to ask him to name one rb, English or not in the league that is better than trent.
6.) 18 Mar 2021 22:11:22
Walkon I think you'll find gobsh##te is French.
7.) 18 Mar 2021 23:36:48
Why is the national team manager comparing his players and describing who is good enough and who isn't it, openly to the press? What happened to discretion and leaving certain things behind close doors? What an amateur. And probably a moron too as others have said; who else wears a waist coat to a football match?
8.) 19 Mar 2021 06:29:26
Gareth Southgate aka Depression. Dave Wilson would do a better job.
9.) 19 Mar 2021 13:51:10
I'll still fall asleep at half time doesn't matter who's in an England shirt the like television medication watching boring bloody England, it's not coming home just face it.
26 Feb 2021 14:11:25
Eds what would happen if Liverpool where to finish outside the Top4 this season but ended up winning the champions league? Would it be a repeat of 2005 when 5 teams from England got in, or would it be a team get moved into the Europa league to make way?
{Ed077's Note - Yes the top 4 and Liverpool all would go into the CL group stages. Liverpool would even be in Pot 1 for the GS draw in that scenario.}
1.) 26 Feb 2021 14:26:18
Ed077 I thought UEFA said back In 05 that this case wouldn’t happen again and the winner would replace the lowest places league team instead.
{Ed077's Note - and 2005 was 16 years ago. Things change.}
2.) 26 Feb 2021 14:48:23
Ed077 no worries mate. Organisations like uefa don’t normally make changes as they are run by dinosaurs. Good to hear though that for once common sense has prevailed. I still think there’s more chance of us finishing top 4 than there is wining the CL. To win the Cl we’re going to have to beat some very good teams.
{Ed077's Note - But if lets say Liverpool win the UCL and Arsenal win the EL but both finish outside top 4 then the the 4th placed team drops out of CL and goes into the EL group stages. UEFA have constantly been making changes and bringing new ideas and concepts into the table with the top sides around Europe to please them and try and stop the formation of the breakaway PAN-European league.}
3.) 26 Feb 2021 15:21:52
Wouldn’t it be great, 077, if that did happen and man utd finished fourth? Lol!
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21 Apr 2021 16:09:05
Also are all arabs and russians dodgy? seems to be the thinking of most on here.
{Ed0666's Note - exactly just typifies the crazy world we live in that xenophobia is the primary thought from some when we think about folks from other countries
08 Apr 2021 13:49:21
having 2 autistic kids myself i hope he raises a lot of money, just shows images can be misleading before everyone jumped on him, i guess no one will highlight what he was doing it for to bring more attention to people who can help support this.
06 Apr 2021 13:41:23
why do people care, Trent is scouse not english. Its englands loss if southgate is inpet.
Southgate loves the attention from the media he would of done this so there is more spotlight on him as he would have to "explain his decision" to the masses, he's a media hungry wh*re who is more interested in having sound bites than leading his country to any kind of win in a tournament.
Thank god im scottish and don't have to worry about who steve clark leaves out.