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06 Jan 2025 09:41:43
The overreaction to 90 minutes of our lives yesterday was as ridiculous as it is predictable these days.

Six points clear. Game in hand. Best GD. Dozen clear of ManCity. Twenty odd ahead of manu. Top of CL. Still in all cups.

Personally I'm loving it and can't wait for the semi final this week and the rest of the season.

When has life ever been plain sailing - enjoy the ride, it's actually more fun that way!

{Ed025's Note - spot on 1jj..

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06 Jan 2025 09:54:08
Great post 1jj, completely agree. I think the overreaction comes from desperation to win the league. City burned us too many times, that this feels like an opportunity we have to take…. but yeah, it is only football. The team is playing great, so let’s enjoy it!

06 Jan 2025 10:12:54
4 points off Man U is something I would have taken before the season had started.

06 Jan 2025 10:14:00
I'm pretty much in agreement with you 1jj, regarding the bigger picture. I can understand the initial raw reaction to failing to beat our bitter rivals at home when they have been in relegation form and we have been flying. I also get the concerns about Trent's performance given the backdrop there. However, the results for Arsenal and Chelsea this weekend mean we came through a match that typically isn't straight forward for us without any loss of our margin over our most likely rivals for the title.

All of that said, what worries me is that we did something very similar against United last year (slightly later in the season) and I still see that 2-2 draw (when we should have smashed them out of sight) as the point at which things started to unravel for us. Next league match is Forest away, which is not easy at all. There continues to be loads of focus on contract discussions. Who knows if it really impacts the players but through the years we have seen plenty of players going through dodgy patches on the pitch when they have got major distractions happening off the pitch.

I have this horrible premonition that, come April/ May, the title will have slipped away and we'll be hearing Neville, Carragher, Redknapp and all the usual media outlets debating whether the uncertainty regarding our big three players derailed us.

So I agree the kneejerk reaction to yesterday is a bit over the top but that is not to say that it doesn't concern me in relation to the bigger picture.

06 Jan 2025 10:14:17
Not sure about overreaction in the context of the whole team/ season. Rather an anger that we were outworked, outfought and outplayed by a pretty crap Man Utd team. They wanted it more than us. It was just like the recent Goodison game.

06 Jan 2025 10:16:16
Well said mate.

06 Jan 2025 10:17:06
Not fussed on UTD. But city are capable of winning the next 18 games. We have some very tricky / tough away games left. The “Game in Hand” is at away to Everton who would move heaven and earth to beat us.

We have forest away
Brentford away
City away
Cheslea away

Sorry I can’t see us winning all.

Call me whatever you want but home games are a must win to win the league and CL.

06 Jan 2025 10:31:10
I think as well, in previous seasons were we have led and then lost the league, it was because we drew too many games against opposition we should have beaten. Regardless of what people say about United, we should have beaten them at home, I could understand if United were in form and playing great, but it was mostly down to how bad we were.
Yes we are leading the league by 6 points, but we have some tough away games still to play including against the chasing pack. Games like yesterday when rivals are dropping points are ones we should be winning if we want to win the league.

06 Jan 2025 10:34:37
City can’t win the league I don’t think they will even get 80 points. The max they can get is 88 points and we should be able to better that. Our only danger is Arsenal and ourselves.

06 Jan 2025 10:40:14
It was very dissapointing yesterday but i think we have to hold our hands up and say that the mancs put a proper shift in against us, which was always going to happen, We looked a litle off it and didn't control the game as we have been doing lately, But we didn't lose and we move on. What i will say though is Darwin was lucky not to be sent off as he looked straight at the defender before whiping him out, let's keep going Reds one game at a time.

06 Jan 2025 10:40:40
Last season the Klopp announcement was never seen as an issue in Jan-Apr but was then apparently a huge reason our wheels fell off.

Yesterday was only one result but the manner of the performance was far more concerning than the result.

I think the future of the 3 needs to be sorted sooner rather than later so all focus can return to the pitch and hopefully winning this league.

06 Jan 2025 10:43:57
Reminds me of the days when we were crap but still got the odd good result against Utd. Times have changed.

06 Jan 2025 10:44:53
I agree JK at some point the contract situation was always going to cause us issues. Every bad performance will get magnified and blown up.

06 Jan 2025 10:45:39
@1jj, i hear your type of rhetoric way too often. This kind of mentality is like boiling a live frog turning heat slowly. Before long we are boiled, lost all the lead we had and lose title race.


This is the seventh time Liverpool have been No 1 at Christmas since 1992, but with only one title won from the previous six occasions.

History shows that only half of the Christmas leaders go on to win the Premier League title.


Let's nip the problem right at bud. This is the time to worry, to complain and put pressure on coach, players to perform better. Don't wait til the lead is evaporated!

06 Jan 2025 11:22:01
Spot on, @1jj. The overreaction is what I tune out cos trust me, I can't deal with such rubbish. We were poor and there is a lot of blame to go round BUT to start throwing the baby out with the bath water and calling these same players who have got us here everything except a child of the Lord, is just cringe and disturbing.

The perf. was not good enuff, period. Learn from it and move on. The contract situation will not be solved any quicker had we won anyway so nothing would have changed there either. And had we won, nothing guarantees us the title either.

As for @Leek please, miss me with the whole "we were first at Christmas x times" waffle. There is literally 19 games and 57 points up for grabs with teams that will give you nothing and we have seen teams fall away and not win the PL whether it be Utd (97/ 98) or Arsenal (2002/ 03 or 22/ 23) or Newcastle (95/ 96) while others have falling away right near the finish line like us in 13/ 14.

It's a meaningless stat with NO context at all. Just so you know, it's what happens 19 games after Christmas that matters most BUT go ahead, lose your head and complain/ whinge all you want cos clearly, we were going to win ALL our games this season and gain ALL 114 points on offer.

06 Jan 2025 11:24:50
The title is far from assured, and tougher tests lie ahead, starting at Forest away, with a bit of thug-ball.

06 Jan 2025 11:32:55
Lee is right we can’t and shouldn’t be complacent. Defensively we’ve been poor in several games since November and lost points unnecessarily. The positive is our attacking play is still good.

The main worry I’ve got is that our fringe players aren’t changing games (eg Nunez) in the way they were previously which means we’re over reliant on the first eleven / twelve who pick themselves when fit. Couple that with a loss of form in a few key positions within that first choice group it could still be a very tight run in. We could easily drop back level in the next two weeks and it doesn’t look like we’ll strengthen in Jan. I think if we strengthen we’ll win the league.

06 Jan 2025 11:37:58
Football is emotional and emotions are magnified when we play United.
One of our centre halves returned from weeks off and our right back had a shocker. And I think we lost the midfield. Not one of their midfielders started their last game so they came in fresh and at least two of them are very good players.
The weather was also atrocious and not conducive to free flowing football.
Things will go against us at times, they did yesterday and they will again. Things have gone our way more this season though and that's a good sign. It would be even better if we could bring in a left back and a midfielder but I know January is not the best time to do it and I'm just being greedy ?. Sorting the three contracts wouldn't do any harm either but I don't think it's done us any real harm so far.

06 Jan 2025 11:44:34
Its quite sad reading lots of articles and comments on TAA. Yeah he had a bad game. But one bad game, and fans start saying all those stuffs about him? If I am TAA, I would go to Madrid immediately.

06 Jan 2025 12:31:10
Is disneyland harry? Only he could be so enamoured with city that the prospect of them finishing above us from this position would seem plausible. The seemingly infallible city isn't at all the city we've seen this year, and arsenal has shown that they have real problems of their own and aren't going to keep getting results without a hitch either.

There is paranoia, pessimism and then there is just plain hysteria. We have been far and away the most dominant and most deserving team this year, our league position is not a fluke. Could we go on a run of bad results and lose our lead? Sure we could, but what we have seen this season suggests that it is more unlikely than not.

And as for the tough away fixtures that you listed, it doesn't really matter what you believe, I'm sure many didn't think Liverpool would have the incredible November and December that they had with all those fixtures either. This is a very very good football team and they should, and I believe will, do well for the rest of the year.

06 Jan 2025 13:25:51
@HaizanMSS, it isn’t “one bad game”, it is just the most recent one of those games where TAA looks as if it is all too much bother.
If you were TAA, you would also know that the Madrid fans will be far less patient, or forgiving of poor performance levels than Liverpool fans are.

Players make mistakes, as humans it’s expected, but the casualness and lack of application yesterday, and the fact that it was from the first minute until he was hooked, is comment worthy, like it or not. This guy is a fantastic player, but he is fluttering his eyes at another club, the club must now make a decision if he does want to stay, give a RB a wage larger than Allexis/ Cody combined, or, looked for a RB whose talents lie more with defending, and adapt the team/ add new players in the hope of compensating for those 2-3 great passes in a game.

06 Jan 2025 13:36:22
While I don't agree with a lot of the over-the-top reactions, I also do not subscribe to the notion that the passions and emotions of being a football fan should be hidden away somewhere for public expression, consumption and political correctness. It's football dammit, and I jump up and down on the sofa during games while trying to keep up with everyone on the live chat. It has always been like that and will always be like that; it's one of my outlets for passion and emotion. Now if it's too much for some (especially Ed025 ?) may I suggest you look into following the game of croquet? Very soothing and more effective than a sedative. ?.

06 Jan 2025 13:38:49
Totally agree Irish Rover.

06 Jan 2025 16:45:44
Yes PB, Dizzygland is Harry.





 

 

 
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