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Onwards And Upwards For Manchester United

22 Sep 2025 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Shappy has posted a new article entitled, Onwards And Upwards For Manchester United



22 Sep 2025 07:55:19
Might get in the top half of the table before Christmas.



22 Sep 2025 08:04:48
If only man utd could play against 10 men for 85 minutes in every game, they might be able to view that perch they love from afar!



22 Sep 2025 08:21:19
and downwards and upwards and backwards and forwards and round and round we go. Shappy, you optimistic person you.



22 Sep 2025 08:40:55
One win and you’ve got them dreaming of glory, Piffmunda.



22 Sep 2025 08:58:41
Sounds like a yo-yo club to me.



22 Sep 2025 09:23:33
God bless him. You’ve got to admire a trier.

I watched a ‘highlights’ package of the match and the Chelsea defence was woeful. The good thing is it keeps Amorim in the job.



22 Sep 2025 10:10:14
It's hard to determine who's a bigger embarrassment, Maresca or Amorim.

Chelsea's keeper makes an idiotic mistake and Maresca instantly throws in the towel, trying to do damage control while taking all of the players off that could hurt United on the break, while keeping on a Palmer that he admitted wasn't match fit at the end of the game.

Not to mention the absolute nonsense he was spouting about his father being a fisherman, so subjecting unwanted contracted players to the ignominy of training late at night apart from the first teamers and ruining their careers is nothing. Maresca is just a stooge for Chelsea as a commercial operation and has no spine tactically or as a person.



22 Sep 2025 10:11:46
Keeper gets sent off in first 2 minutes. We’re back ???‍♂️.



22 Sep 2025 10:40:40
When they get a hammering next when faced with quality opposition, the title will be
‘Why it’s good that Man Utd lost in their pursuit to reach the summit of the PL’.



22 Sep 2025 11:08:02
Actually thought I was on the Man U page ? look Amorim is showing us an absolute masterclass! I'm not sure in what but let's put our faith in him ?? I also propose he is now called Aroma as he's the smell that keeps on giving.

Personally I love what they are doing at the theatre of tears And long may it continue. The other bonus was watching Lego head have a complete meltdown due to yesterday's game at the library.

Off to peruse the post by Shappy to bring me more Monday joy.

YNWA ?.



22 Sep 2025 13:33:42
PB, idk how a club spends £1.5 billion in 3 years and ends up with Robert Sanchez as their first choice keeper. He's awful. Someone's head needs to roll over that.



22 Sep 2025 13:56:37
SR, we're going to need the oracle from the movie "300" to figure that out. Or was it the 3 witches from Macbeth?



22 Sep 2025 13:59:43
Can't disagree with that, SR, Chelsea clearly needed a decent goalkeeper in the window and instead they bought Garnacho. Sanchez is about the same level as Mignolet, honestly, maybe even worse, Mignolet is still playing decently at a CL level with Brugge after all. I mean, I don't get why Jorgensen isn't starting over Sanchez, surely he can't be any worse.



22 Sep 2025 14:07:58
You’re barking mad.



22 Sep 2025 15:12:38
£80m for a striker for a brilliant flick on ?. Love it.

It’s a huge turning point for Sesko. He hasn’t looked like scoring or even shooting since he arrived but that flick on. World class.



22 Sep 2025 15:29:40
PB, dropped over 1.5 billion (with a freaking B) and couldn't buy a decent GK. And yet many of their fans have the audacity to say that they have a better squad than we do. At this rate, Jaros would start over Sanchez. The level of shamelessness from many in that mob is jarring.



22 Sep 2025 16:27:20
PB, Jorgensen looked fairly terrified of crosses, but at least he didn't clobber someone like Sanchez did, I guess.



22 Sep 2025 16:42:45
The history of the PL supports the fact that clubs have cycles of dominance, it looks as if MCs cycle has come to an end and hopefully LFCs is beginning. UTD are a mess, even though they have spent a vast fortune on players/ managers/ Admin staff. But with the size of the club and their spending power, they may eventually get it right, LFC did with far less money (discounting this summer) . So don’t rule out MU coming again, I’d be concerned if I was a City fan, when Pep leaves and if the owners become board with the project, they have less to fall back on.



22 Sep 2025 17:54:18
Have Chelsea fans said that they have a better squad than us? I can't imagine any of them would be that dumb.



22 Sep 2025 18:38:03
I actually watched the match and saw Garnacho, didn't even realize he had been sold to Chelsea ? both teams are using him in the wrong way. His eyebrows should be used to taunt the opposition and strike fear into them. That's why Aroma couldn't get the best out of him lol.



22 Sep 2025 18:49:20
Good on him, ( shappy) he's there through thick and thin. He’s not a glory hunter, still them and the sh*te who are our main rivals all the rest are just pretenders doesn’t matter how low either of us go still biggest games in England.



22 Sep 2025 22:05:04
PB, they are out there online. Trust me, I've seen them.



22 Sep 2025 23:06:16
haven't read the article but am not buying any pollyanna narrative with ManU especially under their current owners and structure.

They're trying to do what we did for decades - find a quick way back to our glory years.



23 Sep 2025 05:24:52
Every club tries to find a quick way back to their glory years, UTD are not unique in that. The difference between them and LFC was that LFC did not have the finances UTD have. Did you see Rafa’s interview a few days ago? He was given 17m to build a team, UTD could spend 30m on one player at the same time.

They need a transformative manager like Klopp, and a top class analytics/ recruitment dept. The first is proving the hardest, there aren’t that many around, but the second, you would think, should be down to identifying personnel, and paying whatever it takes to get them to join. And UTD have the money. We know they are actively doing this as there were reports they approached Edwards before he rejoined FSG’s footballing operations.

Football always seems to be changing, the players are playing longer but the top teams want younger, stronger (no injuries) faster/ fitter players with certain mentalities . LFC showed during the summer that they are willing to spend enormous sums occasionally to secure long term success. But you can only do that from a position of strength, to get that calibre of young players, whom every big team covets, you first need a very good team. Klopp handed that to Slott, Ferguson handed over an aging team, similar in many ways to what Souness inherited. So UTD have to do what you are saying they are, trying to buy their way back to glory, they just aren’t very good shoppers, I’d say the same thing about City and Chelsea in recent years, but unlike UTD, there cash reserves seem to be bottomless, for now. We should all be thankful for the restrictions on club spending, or Newcastle would likely be an even bigger project than city was when the Etihad crew took over.



23 Sep 2025 09:23:46
Chelsea are different from United in the sense that they are very good at selling players, which shouldn't be too hard to do given they buy so many players, and players that are young enough to still be worth at least as much as they bought them for even if they don't get to play for Chelsea. United however overpay for young players like Hojlund and then see them tank in value when they aren't playing consistently in a settled system, or buy players for inflated fees for a manager who has one foot out the door in the first place.

Chelsea aren't buying their way to glory, though, because they don't even look like they are serious about trying to win anything. If they were, they would have bought players that they needed (like Donnarumma) rather than players who might make them money if they flipped them further down the line (Garnacho) . United are trying to buy themselves to immediate success but are failing miserably, Chelsea buy with an eye to future profits rather than any kind of success, and in that respect they have achieved what they are trying to do.

As for getting a generational manager like Klopp, I don't think Klopp should be used as a barometer for this anymore. The simple truth is that Klopp was a sure bet whom we were incredibly fortunate to have been able to lure. That is, he was the biggest 'market opportunity' in the history of market opportunities, Ian Graham has said repeatedly that all the metrics showed that he was pretty much guaranteed to bring us back to the top of the game if recruitment was right because he was already an absolute world class manager on the cutting edge of tactical innovation, and poised to explode. I don't think we are going to see another situation quite like that again, a generational unicorn of a manager on the market that a top top team hasn't snatched up yet.

There are suggestions that somebody like Iraola is the next big thing and certainly the signs are there in terms of how he can work with any group of players and get them to press and attack with the best of them, but Klopp beat Bayern to the bundesliga title twice on meager resources and got them to European finals as well.



 
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