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07 Jul 2025 07:20:01
Hey all, had to step back from all football after what happened. But to say tragedy brings people together, it is amazing how it transcends rivalry. I was talking to a neighbour about it and we both openly admitted of having a cry after the news broke. Strength and courage to Jota and Andre's family and friends. Rip number 20 and 30.

But also I think the world and the heads of football needs to realise that footballers aren't robots, the CwC what a stupid, greed induced cash cow. Do any footballing bodies give two flying f**KS about footballer health and wellbeing.



07 Jul 2025 08:24:28
It would be nice if people would use the horrific events of last week as a reference point. Instead of immediately charging to this site to slag a player or member of staff off because of some perceived slight, it would be nice if folks gave themselves a couple of minutes to think of how they felt when they heard about DJ20.
It would be nice to see an end (or at least a reduction) to the toxicity regularly spewed on here over squad members that we're meant to be supporting.



07 Jul 2025 08:42:08
It would be nice, FTF, but it will never happen. This would be a boring site if everything that was posted was a positive post about a player, but if the tragedy of last week makes people pause, before pressing send, that would be a good thing.



07 Jul 2025 10:31:35
Well said - and needed to be said. We go from one extreme to the other here, sometimes. Write, pause, check you privileges, edit, send. Godspeed Diogo, lad. LFC#21 = DJ#20.



07 Jul 2025 10:36:11
FTF, I think this tragedy should remind all of us that there are more important things than football hence, we should all do a better job of measuring our words on how we view players (good/ bad or in-between) and judge them. Cos at the end of the day, they are human beings who feel the same things we feel at every level outside of their profession. Remember, football is wh.



07 Jul 2025 10:37:40
Pressed send too soon but just to conclude: Football is what these players do. It's their profession. It is NOT their life and we should be able to consider this part, show some empathy and consideration to what they may be going thru off the pitch before we assess their play on the pitch. Just my opinion.



07 Jul 2025 11:23:47
Probably going to upset a few people but here goes.
Maybe it's because im from a different generation or maybe because Im emotionally void but I find it hard to believe people are having a cry over the death of someone they didn't know personally.
Ive seen some LFC fans I follow on twitter, have tweeted 50+ times in 2 days about there struggles to cope and deal with what happened. These are content creators. supposedly. although I don't know what content they're creating and it feels/ looks like they are tweeting, tweeting, tweeting just so they get interactions.
Im not trying to undermine anyone or call anyone out but I do wonder if people are exaggerating there emotions for clicks and engagements.
Now before you all send me messages of disgust, don't all pretend you haven't thought the same about other events not as closely related to this current event. Social media (Just like this site) has become a place where opinions and emotions have become extreme.
Anyway, that is all.



07 Jul 2025 11:40:12
I think you are a little deluded if you think fans haven’t been upset or shed a tear. I have been and have shed a tear. It basic human emotions I’d say.



07 Jul 2025 11:58:52
top tier boomer thing to say I'm from a different generation why are you crying I'm void of emotion so you should be aswell! people grieve in different ways leave them be.



07 Jul 2025 12:08:56
Like I say, perhaps people could be more measured in their appraisal of players, but this is a football fan site. Since the beginning of the game fans of slagged off their own players, it's just that now they do it behind the privacy of their own devices. This site wouldn't be the same if people didn't have a moan, especially on match day. Diogo came in for a fair amount of stick on here, from posters and Ed01. That's what this site is all about. I don't think for one second that Diogo ever visited this site to know what people were thinking. He did know that he had the most song song of any player thoug, and I'm sure that gave him an enormous amount of joy. Oli, though I respect your view, people will move on and we will be on here having a moan about players in a few weeks time, I guarantee.



07 Jul 2025 12:16:18
Agree with Kloppers even though I might be from the same generation as “The_Vicar”.
I’m not a boomer though, I’m younger than that.

A lot of boomers cried when Princess Diana died even though they’d never met her and she was only 39.
A lot of boomers were sad when Queen Elizabeth II died.

Some people have experienced the death of a loved one and that resets your emotions somewhat. Some people haven’t so when a young footballer dies, they experience sadness.

It’s not a reason to judge someone, grief is an individual experience.



07 Jul 2025 12:59:03
Sadly there will always be people looking to gain from any situation, its just the way some people are unfortunately.
If you come across anything like that then simply ignore and move on, don't give them the attention they crave.
I can inly speak on what I see and I have zero interaction with ‘X’ or instagram or the like but I feel comfortable saying that the vast majority of posters on this site are genuine and decent people. Regardless of what generation they come from.



07 Jul 2025 13:57:53
The_Vicar. I only have two things go say.

One, I care very little for the opinions of the clergy.

And secondly, OK, Karen.



07 Jul 2025 15:16:53
The_Vicar, I can understand your PoV, and I too am rarely moved by the passing of people I didn't know.

That's actually changed as I have got older, especially since I've had kids. I find that has impacted my empathy.

There's still very few events that have impacted me anything like the death of a family member. It's always been larger than life people who I have admired over the years. Senna was the first one I can remember - I just couldn't believe that such a larger than life character was gone just like that. Jota has affected me for the same reason, and also circumstances around his death - with his brother (his parents only children) recently married, 3 young children, so much joy and triumph recently and the completely one-off scenario of his journey. Thinking of others recently, Chadwick Boseman and Robin Williams come to mind, again as they were a big part of my life, in Robin's case, since I was a young child and religiously watched Mork and Mindy.

People cope with completely unexpected scenarios in different ways, there's not right or wrong.



07 Jul 2025 15:17:48
Rome1977!, and having a moan or go at players is fine. Criticising players for their performances is more than fair. I just think people do a little bit too much when criticising players to the point of being some kind of p***ing contest as to who can say the most obnoxious of things. It's just football at the end of the day.

IMO, we should all just do our best and be measured in our approach to moaning and having a go cos these players are human being and we don't know what issues they deal with off the pitch.



07 Jul 2025 16:06:27
Vicar, I don’t often find myself overwhelmed by the passing of someone, but that’s not because I’m indifferent - it’s more to do with prolonged exposure. When you’ve witnessed death regularly over the years, as I have, it changes the way you process it. It becomes something you learn to carry quietly rather than something that knocks you off your feet every time. Maybe you're the same?

That said, not everyone shares that experience. For many, death is rare, sudden, and deeply unsettling. And it makes perfect sense that they would react emotionally. There's no manual for grief - it manifests differently for each person. Some people are visiblyheartbroken, while others seem composed, but that doesn't mean one is grieving more or less than the other. It just means we're wired differently, shaped by our histories, our personalities, and our coping mechanisms.

I don’t believe this should even be a matter of judgment or debate. Who reacts, how they react, and whether they show it outwardly - none of it is a measure ofstrength or weakness. It's simply life unfolding in all its complexity. Some people have grown used to loss, others haven’t encountered it yet and neither path is right or wrong.

In moments like these, I think we would do well to show a little more understanding and a lot less assumption. There’s space for silence, for grief, for strength, and for detachment - all of it is valid.



07 Jul 2025 16:07:12
I couldn't put it better, Zeddicus! Thank you.



07 Jul 2025 22:46:20
@Vicar, look up John Donne - the bit about ‘no man is an island’. Social media from nearly 500 years ago, he was pretty much spot on.



 
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