12 Dec 2025 20:00:32
Hi all,
Apologies, been a while since I’ve posted on here due to personal reasons, but I have a few bits of information I’ve been meaning to share for a while (apologies, this will be a long post, with a lot of names).
This is coming from the same sources within the club who gave me reliable information during the summer re Isak, Wirtz, etc. so they are sources I trust - but I need to add the disclaimer that this is a particularly volatile time at the club, and things are absolutely subject to change, so please take with a healthy pinch of salt, and don’t shoot the messenger!
RedNotice97 has written an article entitled, Liverpool’s Turbulent Plan: Slot, Salah And A Rebuild
12 Dec 2025 20:32:28
Fair play for taking the time to pass on the info red.
12 Dec 2025 21:01:46
Ryan Flamingo is too one footed for me.
12 Dec 2025 21:15:06
Good read. Thank-you.
12 Dec 2025 21:17:08
Red notice . a good assessment of our current woes . at least the board aren't just doing nothing about how this season is playing out . Slot was a good decision this year but not working out this year, some players need to move on, some on here all have different ideas of who they'd like to stay or . fascinating and exciting times ahead.
12 Dec 2025 21:29:09
My only question is about the morale of the new signings. I'm curious to know if there is unrest among Wirtz, Ekitike, Kerkez, etc.
12 Dec 2025 21:36:53
Interesting that there is a possibility that Grav leaves. Is there some indication that he may not sign a new contract?
He's world class on his day, although his form is patchy.
12 Dec 2025 22:24:18
Links to Ordonoz for £35m his buyout clause. Plays rcb. Guehi plays lcb so get both in. Celik of Roma been linked as an experienced RB on a free but a lot interested. I'd take Stiller and Wharton for midfield. Fofana and Semenyo for the wings.
12 Dec 2025 22:26:31
A well put together essay of everything people know already fantastic.
12 Dec 2025 22:26:46
Just so appalled by the job Hughes and Edwards have done.
Like the article says ‘everything is in turmoil’.
This is their job, to keep the club stable and progressing, not disrupting everything and thrashing around trying to sign everyone and change managers like they change their duds.
It’s basic stuff and they’re failing at the basics.
Players and managers will struggle at a club in turmoil, look at Man U. We must not follow that disaster, we must be better. We need stability urgently.
12 Dec 2025 23:13:04
So hughes and edwards have the club in turmoil because they signed players every1 wanted in the summer? And as far as we know they are backing Slot. Jesus it only takes for someone to put up one post for us to slaughter everyone in the club. Edwards and Hughes also appointed Slot who won us the league did they not? .
13 Dec 2025 00:14:29
Great and well written thanks for sharing.
Rojack Grav was very good last year but in no way is he a world class midfielder.
13 Dec 2025 00:25:36
If gravenberch isn't a world class midfielder I don't know what a world class midfielder looks like.
13 Dec 2025 00:27:48
Hey RedNotice97, just want to ask is it true we are letting Wataru Endo leave as early as January if suitable offer arrives? If he leaves surely a replacement comes in?
Fantastic article btw. Loved it.
13 Dec 2025 00:53:06
FM - Hughes and Edwards are supposed to know better than fans on a message board . Just because “everyone” wanted to sign the players we signed (actually not everyone), doesn’t mean that’s the right thing to do. I don’t know many people who were asking for the signing of Wirtz before we signed him.
Wirtz and Isak (our 2 biggest signings) were not “needed”.
Isak because he was unfit and Wirtz was a luxury signing who didn’t fit into the team.
The club is obviously in turmoil when you have a manager being called out by senior players in the press, senior players pleading in the press for new contracts, results nose-diving and rumours of dressing room feuds with players refusing to pass to teammates.
13 Dec 2025 02:00:32
Whilst I appreciate the rumour, anyone treating this as fact needs their head examined.
13 Dec 2025 04:13:10
I think we're beginning to see that wirtz very much does fit into this team. With the loss of Trent and the impending departure of mo, whether this is soon or at the end of his contract, means we need somebody who can progress the ball and be the new pivot around which our attack hinges.
Wirtz has shown he can do both, it's a matter of building the team around him.
13 Dec 2025 05:37:54
I would say until it's news then it's always going to be just a rumour TB2.
13 Dec 2025 03:52:33
First heard of dressing room feuds and players refuing to pass to teammates. And whos pleading for new contracts?
12 Dec 2025 21:59:31
It read like a jane Austin novel that.
{Ed025's Note - yeah Max, not much pride and plenty of prejudice mate.. :)
13 Dec 2025 06:37:18
Good read, thanks for putting it together.
13 Dec 2025 06:38:21
I liked the bit about Luis Duaz.
13 Dec 2025 09:59:00
The way I look at it, the likes of Hughes, Edwards, Slot etc should be judged on how they manage all the ups and downs. Not just be celebrated for bringing in successes and then lambasted for failures.
{Ed025's Note - i would say thats fair Faith..
13 Dec 2025 11:39:40
Grav is not a world class player he has the potential to become a world class player but he has a lot to learn and i don't mean that in disrespect. World class to me is Souness, Gerrard, Alonso they could do everything a modern midfielder needed to do.
I think Sboz will become word class to.
YNWA.
13 Dec 2025 18:37:28
Szob isn’t far off world class, he’s consistently excellent. Of all of our players he’s the one to sign up to a new contract, not only is he a top player he’s also a good leader. I’d expect him to be captain when VVD eventually goes.
13 Dec 2025 20:20:23
"DICK"-Van-Dyke is 100 years old today and has played like it all season!
14 Dec 2025 09:50:29
Grav of last season was excellent consistently, and with a few more seasons at that level would be considered closer to the top class bracket.
There’s been a few moments recently where he’s started to break the lines, and get his game back. A second half of the season back to that level, and a good season next time around could see him elevated to the top table.
There aren’t many world class midfielders around right now, none that I can think of in the Zidane, Pirlo, Xavi, and Iniesta type category. Best in the prem is probably Rice, and he’s not that level either. If Macca is getting in the Argentina team it shows you levels aren’t quite where they were, he’s good at his best but he isn’t all that.