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03 Aug 2019 05:56:48
Any news on where Kent is most likely to move? Any advanced talks taking place?


1.) 03 Aug 2019 18:22:30
Leeds?


2.) 03 Aug 2019 20:03:27
Would be a good signing for them.


3.) 04 Aug 2019 11:56:30
I can’t see a move to be honest Har. From what I can tell it’s fairly stuck where it is. If there was a move away that would leave London and Surrey with a coastline which would be fun but I think East Sussex would be a bit exposed so it’s a non starter. There could be a loan to France but it take a while to get there.


4.) 03 Aug 2019 14:16:42
Last i heard was no club could afford him (they don't think he is worth it) and only want loan deals. Klopp Said no loans but when no bids come in we'll let him go on loan with an option/ obligation to buy or something.


5.) 04 Aug 2019 20:37:18
Not even close to an accurate prediction. In your defence Lerchy that’s how the vast majority of confident calls go on this site.


6.) 04 Aug 2019 22:41:05
The PFA Scotland Young Player of the Year? No interest!? Shockin.
He'll prob be sold for 6mil on Wednesday, no biggy. I'm actually way more curious to see if there'll be any late surprise incomings. I expect nothing, but they've surprised us before.


 

 

04 Jul 2019 11:17:19
Ed a quick question if you have any info.

I remember laxalt being linked in the past but I'm sure you mentioned us giving up on any interest. With Milan now poised to sign Theo Hernandez would they possibly look to offer laxalt around at a decent price? Would it be a possibility we may look again at him if readily available or is it non runner?

{Ed002's Note - It is a good question. Laxalt would be happy to stay at Milan and it is Ricardo Rodriguez who was blocking his place in the first team for much of last season who is being offered around. However, with Marco Giampaolo as the new coach and Theo Hernandez joining it will still limit opportunities - although with serious financial issues they will be thinking about keeping him to cover the LB, LM and LW positions - which he is capable of doing. Interest remains from Atalanta and Newcastle enquired - seeing him as a left sided option to Kenedy. For me he would be ideal cover for LB, LM and LW at Liverpool but there has seemingly been no recent interest from the club although he is one of those players - like Valentino Lazaroon the right, who is comfortable in several positions.}


1.) 04 Jul 2019 12:16:41
Thanks for that answer, very insightful overview in fairness. It's his versatility indeed is what would have made him a sensible option too I think. Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


 

 

 

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27 Feb 2020 18:31:31
I'm sorry to ask a timo Werner related question as I'm sure ye Eds are sick of constant questions about him at this stage.

My question though is do ye feel that RBL might currently be eager to broker a deal with us and would prefer Werner to transfer to Liverpool as opposed to possible switch to bayern or other direct rivals?
Would you see this as an advantage for us if we were to push ahead with serious intentions?

{Ed001's Note - that is certainly an angle that could work for them, yes. It really depends on the other options for him. If it is PSG or Juventus, for example, we would have no advantage over them on that basis.}


1.) 27 Feb 2020 20:17:20
Yeah that's true, I always thought of bayern as the only real side he would prefer over us and it would be a shootout between us and them but I guess every top side in Europe will be looking at him now though many of which will offer him the main man role up front.


 

 

04 Feb 2020 22:42:05
Absolute fantastic result to get from a team with average age of 19 years 108 days to go out infront of 50000 fans under the lights at anfield and play with maturity and get us into the next round. The usual bright sparks Elliot and Jones again looked confident on the ball but for me the most pleasing thing was to see our defence looking strong.

Previously against villa and arsenal we conceded 5 goals and looked vulnerable with every attack faced. Tonight van den berg and Hoever looked so much more composed and controlled while neco Williams already looks more than capable of backing up Trent, . We controlled 90% of the game and a clean sheet to cap what was an extraordinary night for these boys to experience in their early careers and we will hopefully see them build on these kind of moments. I'm over the moon.


1.) 04 Feb 2020 23:02:17
Har_red92 to be fair, Arsenal had a lot more firepower than Shewsbury did so it is only normal we concede more chances to them and also, the team we put out vs Arsenal lacked cohesion. This one did not hence with Critchley on the bench, the boys knew their jobs inside out. This supports Klopp's point that he did not need to be on the bench cos well, he does not coach the U23's so cannot offer that much input.

I am chuffed for the lads who gave it a right go and MAD props to the thousands of fans who turned up to roar them to victory. I guess the haters and trolls are going to have to put their knives away cos I know they already had them at the ready had the boys lost today. LFC Kids 1 Shewsbury 0. Read it and weep, Losers!


2.) 04 Feb 2020 23:11:21
I thought all the lads put in a great shift. Now, if this isn't the "magic of the FA Cup" then I have no idea what that statement means. I also think it was great that our vice-captain (Millie) attended and went into the changing room to talk to the lads. great stuff.


3.) 04 Feb 2020 23:21:59
Well chuffed for them. A lot of pressure and they handled it well. Disrespectful for shrewsbury to start their 2nd choice forward. Come on guys, we're Liverpool.


4.) 04 Feb 2020 23:31:53
Well done young reds! ❤⚽️.


5.) 05 Feb 2020 04:40:03
I agree mate

Standouts were Jones and Elliot upfront, and Chirivella was exceptional at controlling the middle of the park, but most pleasing of all was the back 4. Sepp has looked lost in previous games but took a huge step forward tonight, while Hoever looked fantastically composed. For those two to deal with the physicality and experience of Shrewsbury was a credit with not a single shot on target. The fullbacks were also too notch, adventurous going forward but excellent in defence.

What a fantastic game, the youngsters fully deserved the win after completely dominating possession, and with a bit more experience upfront, 3 nil would not have been an unfair result.


6.) 05 Feb 2020 10:49:55
The win last night has rather pulled the rug from under the feet of those critical of Klopp.
But more than that, a vindication of Klopp’s stand point was Sam Rickett’s admission that it was (Shrewsbury’s) “game 39 for us and it caught up with us”.
If that isn’t an advert for a rest period I don’t know what is.


7.) 05 Feb 2020 12:40:24
Totally agree, Juicer. Last night was Liverpool's 41st competitive game of the season so far, starting with the Community Shield against City on 4th August. With potentially another 20+ games to go.


 

 

It's impossible to compare different Football Eras

21 Jan 2020 16:36:13
{Ed's Note - Har_red92 has posted a new article entitled, It's impossible to compare different Football Eras


1.) 21 Jan 2020 20:22:23
Great read, can't argue with a thing.


2.) 22 Jan 2020 18:49:07
I think football goes in cycles, lots of past teams played possession based football and attacking fast paced football over the years, someone always comes along with an idea and is successful and everyone else tries to do the same until someone else comes along with a different approach that works and the rest try the same and so on,


 

 

21 Jan 2020 01:34:43
I remember posting back when we were heading into winter with a 7 or 8 point lead and we were all rightly nervous and cautious but I was predicting that I thought we might double that lead by Xmas as it was at a time where city faced 6 fixtures mostly against bigger sides while our 6 fixtures were favourable. It turned out accurate and I'm now feeling similar thoughts. City next 6 games they have 4 away, they play spurs Leicester arsenal and United along with sheff Utd away and even Chelsea before they play us.

In that period we play west ham twice, wolves, Bournemouth, Watford, Southampton, Norwich and I think palace. I could see it very possible that we pull so far ahead that the league may be won before March is out, . Of course city can win every game but I can honestly see them dropping more points than we will over next 6 or 7 games. Cities easiest run of fixtures is their last 6 which are all against the weakest teams while we are just now facing into our best run of opponents while city face their toughest run. This could genuinely be over by the 30 game mark and I'm saying this with realism and not just arrogance. Pep will at some point look to move all his importance to the champions league as he knows it's too large a task to catch us, . If we take 6 points over the next week we'll be sitting on 70 points with 14 games left, city can only get to 93points with 100% record from 15 games, I can only see them reaching 80-85 points so we could realistically pass that mark with 7 or 8 games to spare considering the level of opponents we face compared to city over next 7 or 8 gameweeks.

I'm going to predict that we seal the title in the Merseyside derby.


1.) 21 Jan 2020 04:54:18
Not sure why this is even debatable any more. I lived through the hay days of the 70's and 80's so have been overly cautious predicting a title. But, in the current climate you'd be mad not to be at least 90% confident of winning the league this year. We're not steam rolling teams, but getting the job done and those beneath us are dropping points with regularity.
It wouldn't overly bother me if we didn't go deep in the champions league but set some severe records in the league this season. Let's be honest, if at the start of the season anyone predicted we could win the league with half a dozen games left to play and have a shot at beating City's 100 pt total and potentially matching Arsenal's invincibles, you'd have laughed.


2.) 21 Jan 2020 07:21:30
I just want the league, nothing else matters. If we have games to spare, I’d love to see some younger lads get more mins in. Set us up better for next season.


3.) 21 Jan 2020 08:39:03
I’m agreeing with Burkey on this. We are in a position that no top flight team has ever been in or could ever be again. Let’s make the most of it and smash all records. People still revere Arsenal’s invincibles and rightly so. If we could do that with 112pts we’d be talked about and revered for generations to come.


4.) 21 Jan 2020 08:57:48
I’m not disagreeing with Har but in the matches we have in that period we are playing 3 teams (Wolves, Norwich and Palace) who took points off City. No “easy” games but of course there are “easier” games you are expected to have more chance to win.


5.) 21 Jan 2020 12:45:07
If the records come then that is a bonus, but never ever EVER should achieving records to make Arsenal and United fans jealous come before winning the Champions League. That’s what we’re famous for, it’s the pinnacle of the sport (maybe even the pinnacle of sport as a whole), the top level of competition, the ultimate sign of glory and prestige. We have a very good chance to win both trophies this year, we’re by far the best team in the world right now, you’d have to be bonkers to accept anything other than at least making it to the semi finals even if that means we throw away the unbeaten league record.


6.) 22 Jan 2020 04:21:55
I don't, was only really giving my personal prediction and of course it's merely based on guessing.

I'm with you Anonymous woolback on the importance of CL and disagree with anyone who places records over major titles. Especially this year as we're holders and to go and win it 2 seasons back to back would be arguably our greatest achievement. We will win the league im very very confident of that but to follow that up with another CL win would really assert our dominance. It's not often you get a chance to retain the biggest club honour so we should have 100% focus and importance in grabbing our chance.

Last year was the same suggestions being thrown about with many fans actually calling for us to play weaker lineups and only focus on the league. That would have left us without any silverware and an empty heartbreaking season which likely wouldn't have seen us kick on like we've done. Klopp would have been facing into this season still without any silverware, Henderson still not tasted the captain walk to the podium and we would not be enjoying the admiration and respected as the best in the world if we had have got knocked out in QF and not the league either.

There would be no 6th star, no super cup, no world club cup, no top seed ranking for group stage and no chance to win it back to back or reach 3 consecutive finals which is unlikely to happen again too soon. No way can taking arsenals invincible record or city's 100 point record be more rewarding than a 7th European cup, especially at a time where we're genuinely strongly fancied and not just taking a punt as the underdog. What happens if we lost care and exited Europe then lost 1 game and finished on 99 points?

Arsenals so called invincibles drew 13 games that season and won 25. Yes of course that's impressive to not be beaten but to draw 13 games, means they were failing to win once every 3 games.

I don't think that record should be thought of as greater than achieving 30 wins 7 draws with 1 loss and 97 points. Those 2 city seasons were also superior and Chelsea getting 95 points in a season where they only conceded 15 goals and along with us this season I'd place these teams 5 seasons as all more impressive and difficult to achieve than what arsenal did. Even if we lose which is very realistic you'd want to have a narrow mind to think that means we can't be regarded as the best team. People rave about United 99 but they only won 22 games all season while we will likely win our 22nd game in January. They lost more games that season than we have in probably last 3 seasons combined and there tally of 79 points would only ever have won 2 out of the 27 seasons.

That United team are remembered because they won the European cup and the fa cup also yet we have fans who openly show lack of care to both competitions . We're going so strong in the league That we have no reason to not be able to give focus to other major honours which don't even offer an issue in distraction or fatigue that many dramatically think is an issue that could be troublesome.


 

 

18 Dec 2019 15:01:31
@Hhanif005,

regarding the point that we are buying the title and this will hamper youngsters coming through. We didn't sign any senior players last summer and the path got easier for young lads to get a chance. Brewster is being backed to prove himself and has yet to show he deserves to be trusted yet, minamino is a 7 million player who doesn't even play in Brewsters role so hardly just splashing out on his replacement.

You say Trent was the last to get his chance and only kept his spot because he played magnificent! . That's this whole point, Trent played well every time we needed him so deserved to play, Brewster has been given chances but yet to deserve to play ahead of others, solanke was given chances but didn't deserve to play anymore.

Hoever, Jones, Elliot are all being given their chance but are yet to prove they are better than other options. It's up to the players to prove their quality to deserve the right to play more regularly. Klopp has given plenty of kids the chance since Trent but none have been as good as him which has you thinking for some reason that Trent was the only guy given time. Woodburn, ojo, ibe, ejaria, solanke, chirivella, Stewart all played in as many games as it took for Trent and Gomez to show their quality was good enough. No one has the automatic right to be given minutes if not performing in training or on the field.

How can you say Duncan made the right move when he has yet to make any progress since leaving? He's having less joy in youth level than he had with us and yet to given any first team action for a team much weaker than us. This season he would realistically have already played 3 or 4 games for our first team against the likes of arsenal, games at a packed Anfield, games live on sky sports, chance to travel to compete in CWC and it would have been up to him to take his chance that he would have been given if he's actually even deserving of it.

We give the kids a chance and it's up to them to take it, not to klopp. If Brewster doesn't succeed at Liverpool no one can say he never got the chance, he's played poor in each of his performances so far so will have to be patient to earn klopp's trust and origi has deserved to take his potential playing time. Neco Williams has great debut and rewarded with chances to play backup RB in first team match squad.

We're not stopping these youngsters from any future. If they're good enough to play for LFC and can prove it then they will make it, if they're not then why would we play them and weaken our team.

I can't think of any young players really who never got given a sniff under klopps 4 years in charge and has since proven that he was ever good enough to play more minutes for this team? I can't think of one player who's progress the club has blocked without that player actually himself being responsible for his own success or failings. Grujic and Wilson are both currently still being given time and potential to make it at a high level but we've not let any youngsters leave under klopp who've proved him or the club wrong.

If youngsters want to leave for more chances then fair dues to them but it's nonesense that they or others can then say that we didn't give them a chance or that we simply buy our way to success when it's very far from true. Jordan ibe got the same chance that sterling got. 1 took it, one didn't. Andre wisdom got the last same chance that Trent got, 1 took it, one didn't. Martin Kelly got the same chance that Joe Gomez got, 1 took it, 1 didn't. Solanke was given the same chance as Origi was given a few years back.

At United rashford was given the same opportunity as all their other young forwards who have yet to make it at a high level. Harry Kane took his chance at spurs. Abraham and mount now taking theirs at Chelsea. If you want to make it at a top club you need to perform and take your chance. You can't blame the club or their ambition as a reason for not making it.

If you're good enough you'll make it, if not the club will look elsewhere or else inevitably start getting weaker like arsenal who've wasted far too much time on youngsters who weren't performing.

We're not a club buying our way to the top and that's so obvious to clearly see.


1.) 18 Dec 2019 15:17:08
When you say “you” who are you taking about. ?


2.) 18 Dec 2019 15:28:09
Spent about 40p last summer. Still top.


3.) 18 Dec 2019 21:47:58
Har_red,

Mate I agree with your post that our club and Klopp do not impede youngsters to harm their careers. My post simply meant that for a young player to succeed at Liverpool they will have to be truly exceptional and lucky. Even a player of Brewster's caliber is finding it difficult to find a space in the match day squad on a regular basis. So for a player like Duncan who did not fancy a scrap to break through into an elite side, it was better for him to move on (to a challenge that meets his lower ambitions) .

My post did not mean any less or any more than that. I agree with what you have said in your post about the club being fair. I do not condone young players leaving Liverpool. In fact I love to see them have the belief in themselves to take up the challenge. I'm however realistic about the need to balance the championship winning streak with giving youth a chance so I firmly believe that we will keep buying excellent prospects (like Mane and Salah etc) in future rather than having a team full of academy products just because the pressures of the game do not allow a lot of experimentation (besides in the League Cup) .

With regards to the taunt of "buying the league", I don't want to get into it because I don't know if there is an objective definition of buying the league (in terms of money spent) . We have spent a lot of money in the recent years. And yes our net spent is much lower than City. But Leicester spent much less than us to win the league. So there is no objective definition to buying the league. I just think that our owners will do whatever is necessary to win the trophies (e. g. buying Van Dijk and Alisson) so I'm not interested in the labels and I am enthralled by our team, our owners and our manager/ staff.


4.) 19 Dec 2019 11:14:28
Both make valid points, the question is then how many young players realistically stand a chance to play with Virgil or Allison in the team? As an academy player looking at our 1st there aren't as many opportunities up for grabs. I read somewhere that Brew isn't good enough, is he not good enough as compared to our 40mil plus signing or he just not good enough? I am only asking to get a clear view of the bases of your conclusion and not opposing it.
Kids (in fact athlete in general) need more than the occasional appearance to show their worth and frankly we just not giving our kids that. You rate Harvey as not good enough, we talking about a 16 year old who will most likely play the day a Mo or Sadio need a break.

How many team's would really have had the stomach to agree the range of fees we have had recently and still not see it fit to accept the tag "buying success", You don't smash the record twice for no reason.

Yes we in a much better position thanks to money spent but reality is that majority of our young guns will probably never get to shoot for Liverpool FC.


 

 

 

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27 Feb 2020 20:08:05
I'd be hoping that any potential deal will wait until March or April when his supposed deadline for transfer fee is. Last thing we want now is media frenzy over a big signing when klopp will want desperately to keep the lads focused on making history over coming months and any distraction like that could unsettle some players with plenty of football left to play.

Is it true though that Fabinho and allison were negotiated months in advance also? Seems unlikely as they were both arguably our most discreet and quick signings.


 

 

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23 Feb 2020 05:15:13
There's a difference with that example though. Fabinho was bought to be first choice, Milner wijnaldum and keita were all signed at different times where they were expected to slot into first 11. Our midfield options are all different styles of players and reasonably similar in standard whereas we have a front 3 who are currently having a reputation as the best around in their roles and our midfield can be rotated to suit a circumstance but our front line shouldn't be rotated when they spend majority of time in good form and confidence. I think we all agree we'd love Werner to sign and I'm sure klopp would too but with realistic thinking the reason it may not be possible is because he won't want to contend with being in and out of the starting line-up and could expect to start every week at nearly every other club. This is the issue that we keep talking about, we can't just pick and choose who we sign, players of certain stature will not be attracted to the idea of possibly being on the bench for nearly all major games behind our current attack. A midfield player of top quality would fancy himself to make our team but top class attackers won't see that chance as realistic.


 

 

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21 Feb 2020 03:31:19
I agree with ed002 regarding giroud or even other clubs. He has the quality to walk into nearly every sides first 11, so replacing giroud means Chelsea have someone to compete with Abraham who has shown mediocre patches of form and can very possibly be upgraded . It's much different scenario to him expected to break our front 3 realistically.


 

 

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18 Feb 2020 23:56:29
I think we've seen that klopp has intentions to challenge these youngsters to break into first team squad roles and it's healthy to have the likes of 2 different type of LB competing for that spot while Williams has the chance to claim RB squad role. We've seen the likes of clyne, Moreno, sturridge deemed surplus and klopp instead giving youngsters the game time in their positions. Hopefully Hoever, VDB, Jones, Elliot, Brewster can also continue to play and develop and we get to see a few success stories like Trent as klopp genuinely seems to have an interest in improving these guys who are yet aged only from 16-19yrs and have time on their hands. It's the likes of Woodburn, Wilson, Kane, ejaria etc I see no plan to integrate in future squad.


 

 

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11 Feb 2020 01:48:23
@Irishman. If you're quoting me you should at least get it right. I said regularly which was the one word you left out. Also he's 33 not 32 and my point is that if he stays with us another season then next summer he'll be 34 and how many options are going to be on the table then from clubs looking to offer him first choice position when he's going to be 35 not long after signing. I can't think many la liga, serie A, prem, bundesliga top sides will be realistically giving him that chance while now his options are better he might want to take it. A season of allison playing every game next year and Adrians stock will fall much more.


 

 

 

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27 Feb 2020 20:35:17
Became the first defender in prem history last season to get to 12 assists. It's February and he's already on 12 this season so will surely break his own record. Phenomenal numbers from a 21yr old RB to already be hitting. He only started 27 league games last year and 26 this year means he's setting up a goal every 2 games. Only fabregas and Rooney had better stats at same age but they were 2 attacking players who had played many more games at this stage. 30 assists and 5 goals from a young RB through just over 100 appearances is crazy really.


 

 

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27 Feb 2020 20:17:20
Yeah that's true, I always thought of bayern as the only real side he would prefer over us and it would be a shootout between us and them but I guess every top side in Europe will be looking at him now though many of which will offer him the main man role up front.


 

 

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27 Feb 2020 18:51:34
I never knew we were renowned as slow at throw ins or that we've seen many cards for it. Interesting though, I've seen we have the highest success rate at retaining possesion from throws since that coach came aboard. Think about 70% mark so clearly effective to be patient and look for the right option.


 

 

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27 Feb 2020 18:39:07
And also when you line up at KO the opposition are perfectly set up and organised, if you play around the back they will have easy route to press and close you down. It's very difficult to realistically play through and create danger from that situation and it's easy to be put under pressure and get caught out.


 

 

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23 Feb 2020 17:41:05
Let's say an investigation had found us guilty and we faced a charge from the FA, any idea what type of punishment that kind of breach would possibly bring? Has there been previous cases of a similar type of misconduct from other clubs in the past?

{Ed001's Note - I have no idea and I am not aware of any similar cases in the past.}