16 Nov 2025 08:05:13
Konate demanding £325k apparently!
16 Nov 2025 09:15:51
What, to actually perform? Is he holding the club to ransom and will start playing properly again if he gets a massive pay rise? It’s a no from me, he’s been awful so far this season and in no way merits that amount of money. I don’t understand how he gets in the team ahead of Gomez at the moment.
16 Nov 2025 09:30:05
For anything in particular?
16 Nov 2025 09:36:33
Well then Konate gets sold in Janurary.
16 Nov 2025 09:52:56
I wouldn't pay him half that, he's been playing like a puppet with a couple of missing strings.
He can walk in the Summer, for me.
16 Nov 2025 09:53:11
Per year?
16 Nov 2025 09:58:17
Turkish lire or Drakmar?
16 Nov 2025 10:34:29
Few things to unpack here. Firstly, the whole defence has been poor this season, can say countless goals that have been van Dijk’s fault, so to single out Konate is somewhat unfair, but it is clear that there is fundamentally a reason for us being so poor defensively, we are the worst team in midfield defensively, our midfield offers absolutely no protection to our back four. So it’s no wonder they’re constantly exposed. This is something we see week in week out and is backed by statistics. You could have a prime Hansen and Lawrenson in defence any they’d struggle with out broken midfield in front of them. As for the calls to drop him or sell him.
Drop him for who? Gomez is far worse and more injury prone, it’s also true to say we don’t have anyone in the u23’s remotely capable of stepping up, and if we try to sell him, he’s under no obligation to accept a move in January when he can go for free in the summer, and whoever does make an offer it will be a pittance leaving us a very short window to bring in an adequate replacement, selling in January would be a stupid act of self sabotage. So it’s either we agree those terms and he signs or he leaves for free. If the club think he’s worth the wages then it’s not my problem to think about, if they don’t, he leaves as just another transient employee.
16 Nov 2025 12:18:47
Let’s hope Real are feeling flush ?.
16 Nov 2025 12:03:14
Simple answer. 2 words and the the last one is off.
16 Nov 2025 12:19:26
Doubtful expectation or demands would be made public while negotiations are ongoing.
However, if Ibou was demanding such a figure, it would be in the knowledge that the club won't anywhere near those levels and his mind is already made up about leaving on a Bosman and securing a big signing on fee somewhere else.
At the start of the season I wanted Ibou to sign up to another contract. However, I think we have no witnessed his ceiling, and unfortunately it lacks the ball progression and even more importantly, the concentration and maturity required of an elite centreback. I am not of the opinion that we can replace him.
16 Nov 2025 12:28:37
Vic, Konate is by far one of the worst defenders that has ever played for the club. Yeah everyone in the defence has been bad, but when other players have to babysit Konate most games, it just adds pressure to the other players.
16 Nov 2025 13:05:29
I like ibou, he/ the defence hasn’t been as fragile as we are atm since klopp lost just about everyone who could play cb. I still put it down to the style of football we’re playing. If we are on the front foot attacking pressing high winning the ball back there’s less chance of conceding shots on goal.
I do think he is off though, something I read yesterday where he said he hopes to make announcement in the next few weeks? To me that’s January saying he’s off on free in summer.
16 Nov 2025 13:07:24
Sorry typos - now of the opinion that we can replace him!
16 Nov 2025 13:31:45
NicolBecker - bar far and away, one of the worst defenders that has ever played for the club? A bit extreme, that.
You should have watched Bjorn Tore Kvarme, Rigobert Song, Mamadou Sakho, Paul Konchesky, Julian Dicks, Philipp Degen, Phil Babb and Torben Piechnik.
I would say Ibou Konate is similar to Dejan Lovren. A title winning centreback that fell short of the elite level due to moments of madness.
16 Nov 2025 13:33:16
Victor . you are usually quite knowledgeable about players n iv seen you give some loads on here . but if you think it unfair to single Konate out then you're wrong. nevermind the midfield which I agree needs sorting badly. but when a player makes mistake after mistake, n his general play is dreadful.
even simple passes or headers out never reach their target . he costs us goals every week n now he supposedly wants £325 a week . he is one player id let go for free n im usually against that, even though i wanted him sold earlier on in the season. but got told on here that not how we treat players.
16 Nov 2025 13:49:31
NicolBecker Glory - whilst it's not a high bar, he's arguably better than: Pietchnik, Kvarme, Traore, Pellegrino, Kyrigiakos, Song, Coates, Sakho and possibly on par with Lovren in terms of top 10 Premier league era poor CBs.
16 Nov 2025 14:08:38
I wouldn’t pay him £325 a week never mind 325k.
16 Nov 2025 15:02:18
Startling statistic, only Wolves have conceded goals at a higher rate than LFC since the beginning of May, in the top 5 leagues in Europe.
Konate is a dud, he will not improve, there is no way he should not be paid anything above what an average squad player in the Premiership is paid.
The best thing about him joining Madrid? We can score goals against him/ them and prey on his obvious limitations.
On another note, just watched the penalty Ireland got against Hungary, Kirkez at fault, losing his man with a simple long ball over the top.
16 Nov 2025 15:15:11
I personally would prefer to give Gomez a run in the team.
16 Nov 2025 15:17:59
Absolutely ridiculous comment NicolBecker. There’s legitimate criticism and abuse, and your bizarre rant is nothing more than mindless abuse. To suggest he is one of the worst defenders ever to play for the club just beggars belief. He is so rubbish that he only has Real, Bayern and PSG sniffing around for his signature. He’s so rubbish that he has a premier league winners medal, of which he played a substantial part of winning the league, he’s so rubbish that we apparently decided not to look at other defenders when we signed him and waited a year to do so.
Fact remains, our defence are constantly exposed by the absolute lack of defensive competence in midfield. And as for the comment that he’s at fault for a goal every week, Van Dijk has been directly at fault for far more this season, but doesn’t get the abuse. Like it or not, until midfield is fixed this will continue. The shortcomings in all of our defenders games are horribly exposed by a midfield that couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag, much less provide adequate defensive cover.
16 Nov 2025 15:37:19
VV, would they be sniffing around if he had 3 yrs left on his contract with LFC? I very much doubt it, the fact he can sign without a transfer fee makes him far more appealing I suspect. If it doesn’t work out in his new club, they will sell him and make a very nice profit in the process.
When signed, he was a young player who LFC thought would improve, has he? I don’t think so.
Like you, I certainly don’t think he is one of the worst, there have been lots worse, but that doesn’t mean he is very good, he was part of a very good team last year, but I would say he was the poorest first team player in that winning team.
16 Nov 2025 16:19:14
Agree with victor.
16 Nov 2025 19:14:19
He's obviously not a world class CB but he's obviously not one of the worst either. Fa t is, and iv been saying this for some time, is that VVD has been so immense he has covered for others shortcomings and led other lesser defenders to being the best they can be.
There was always going to be a massive downturn when VVD either left, retired or started to fade as he got older. The latter is happening unfortunately and we were not ready for it.
16 Nov 2025 21:32:41
Never rated him. Nice fella. But whilst everyone loved him he’s always been Bambi on Ice to me. Big clumsy and weak.
16 Nov 2025 22:51:15
Nicol becker give ya head a wobble.
17 Nov 2025 06:49:21
If Konate does decide he is leaving its essential we get someone in January. VVD can't go on forever, Gomez isn't able to play consistently and Leoni will be coming back from a bad injury.
He is reportedly on £70k a week currently, quadrupling plus a bit based on his current form would be crazy, there is a player in there but also a headless chicken.
17 Nov 2025 08:16:54
Our contract talks seem to go long into the season generally, must be a nightmare to plan transfers against that backdrop. It’s probably a major reason why we haven’t reinforced at centre back as anyone really good will want to know they’ll be starting for us. If there’s big contract talks ongoing you don’t pay £200k plus for someone to sit on the bench.
{Ed001's Note - if they are not good enough to replace Konate, why on earth would we be trying to sign them anyway? Sorry but you are talking nonsense. It is simple to plan, we want to replace our weak link and that is who we sign. We never signed one because we never moved for another, which we should have done. The plan had been to sign three centre-backs in the summer, we signed one. That is a big failing and has meant we are stuck with having to keep using a player that we were trying to replace for not being good enough and then wondering why he is hopeless.}
17 Nov 2025 09:07:45
Ed001, who was the third CB after Guehi and Leoni? Was the plan to move Konate and Gomez on with those two and another coming in?
{Ed001's Note - there were a few we were interested in, mainly younger players in the mould of Leoni.}
17 Nov 2025 11:14:04
Nicol bar have you watched old games, he’s far from the worst and was good last year, any defender who plays right side for us now would look shot.
17 Nov 2025 11:21:40
Konate is a bang average player. Man City beat us by literally targeting him in and out of possession. He is not good at any fundamental aspect of football. He's just tall and fast which allows him to mask the fact he is bad technically and very physically weak.
Man City were able to make us look poor by just letting Konate have the ball and standing Haaland on Virgil because they knew Konate would give it away or play someone else into trouble. Then when they had the ball Haaland left Virgil alone and went and played on Konate because he knew he could bully him. Konate was weak in the air for their first goal, and gave Doku far too much room for their 3rd goal.
He's not a good player. Nicol's comment is hyperbole at it's finest because he's miles off being the worst defender to play for the club, but Victor, you are a hypocrite of the highest order. If Konate was not a Liverpool player, you'd absolutely slate him, like you did with Guehi in the summer. Like you do with every player we're linked with who isn't absolutely impervious.
He needs to be replaced. As Ed001 said, Konate is a weak link.
17 Nov 2025 12:02:01
MK, it's arguable that none of the back 4 we've tried this season have been great.
Our issue starts up front for me with neither wide forward working hard to track back (like Diaz and Nunez did until it became the obvious Slot didn't want him), not using Grav as a dedicated 6 to drop back when one of the fullbacks goes forward leads to massive holes through the middle and all of our fullbacks are attack minded (Bradley being the most defensive minded, but even then his qualities seem more wingback than fullback) .
Ed001 I remember Air Boudlal being mentioned, is he still on our radar?
{Ed001's Note - I believe so yes.}
17 nov 2025 13:33:23
hi ed, not sure if it was me you were saying was talking nonsense. point i was making was that if we’re offering anything like £200k a week to konate i presume that’s for him to be a starter not a squad player. according the reports we have made an offer for him to stay, and we’re now back at the table in terms of negotiations. that would raise questions for me if i was a potential new player coming in.
if we’re not offering him a new contract then it then raises a question why we haven’t signed a replacement. i suppose we were very close with guehi, and maybe we know we will be getting him in the summer, but which do you think it is?
are we trying to keep him and have offered him a new contract, or is it more likely that his camp is making out he’s turned down our initial offer but we haven’t actually offered him anything.
{Ed001's Note - we offered him something but nothing like he wants. But I believe he is being an arse and asking for what he knows he won't get so he can claim he wanted to stay but the club didn't value him. In reality I believe he wants out.}
17 Nov 2025 13:47:29
That's the impression I get too, Ed. He's asking for an amount he knows he won't get so he can move on.
Ordonez, Diomande or Jacquet are more than adequate replacements in my opinion.
17 Nov 2025 15:23:00
Hopefully we buy one of them in Jan, so we don’t have to endure a full season of this with Konate and can relegate him to the bench. At least with Trent we had Connor to deputise, it doesn’t look like Jo Gomez is going to get games in place of Konate.